At my private school, 98% of the students went on to college, and I can assure the scores were a helluva lot higher than public schools. Maybe you mean charter schools?
Tell me, what exactly does the Department of Education do? I've been a college professor at a public school for 13 years, and I don't have a clue. I'd love my state to keep all it's education money instead of sending it to DC to be squandered.
Since George Washington, presidents have been entering the US into international agreements that were not approved by the Senate, i.e., agreements pursuant to the constitutional authority of the president.
The constitutional sources of authority for the President to conclude international agreements include:
(a) The President’s authority as Chief Executive to represent the nation in foreign affairs;
(b) The President’s authority to receive ambassadors and other public ministers;
(c) The President’s authority as “Commander-in-Chief”; and
(d) The President’s authority to “take care that the laws be faithfully executed.”
So the Obama Admin will obviously claim this falls under his constitutional authority based on existing law. It will be interesting to see if SCOTUS takes the case, assuming one arises.
Please don't argue with the messenger here, I'm just presenting the law and the facts, not issuing a conclusion on ACTA's legality.
If some dumb security guy puts his damned dirty ape hands on you unlawfully, *you're the plaintiff* and he and his employer will be the ones with the legal bills. And in such a scenario, a lawyer would likely take your tort case on a contingency basis.
> There is no such right, absent a lawful shoplifting detention.
Or that contract that you signed when you paid your annual membership dues. Refused your inspection? You just voluntarily terminated your contract, so you're free to walk out, but your account is canceled, and you'll never be allowed to shop at the chain again.
But hey, it's your right to refuse!
Do you know how many people come in and out of a Costco in a given day? If I walked out without showing my receipt, the guy at the door wouldn't know who I am. If I did this once a month for a year, maybe they might eventually recognize me. Maybe not.
Police have a "legitimate need" to stop lots of crimes. Searching everyone's homes without warrants would really help that. So can they come search yours, Mr. Helpful?
You're the fucktwit. In America, the law is clear: A shopkeeper needs probable cause to detain and search a person leaving his store. And me walking to a register and paying for everything in plain sight does not constitute probable cause, not even remotely close. It's settled law in all US jurisdictions, not an "invented right."
Why do you think they owe it to you to be helpful?
Well they are paid to do so. But I just laugh at their bad attitude, since I invariably know more about the product I am looking at than they do. But for the average Joe Six-Pack walking in there, they are horrible and make Best Buy look customer-friendly.
Another Internet tough guy, typing things he'd never say to someone's face.
Community college in my state is $27 a unit. Those too lazy to take advantage of it, or develop some other skill than being surly and unhelpful, as Fry's associates tend to be, can work for minimum wage and suck it. If that's elitist, so be it. The world doesn't owe anyone a living.
As do I, but keep in mind there are exceptions such as membership only stores like Sam's Club and Costco where you sign a contract stating that you will do just that.
Yes, but the contract doesn't say, "and if I don't show my receipt, you may detain me by force." And I'm about 99% certain Costco wouldn't be dumb enough to try. Yes, you'd be in breach of the agreement, but how would the person at the door even know who you are without seeing your membership card, which you wouldn't show on the way out either?
And yes, Fry's and the like can kiss my ass when they ask for a receipt. One time at Fry's, I went straight from the register to the bathroom to pee. Some associate came in and said, "sir, there's no merchandise allowed in the restroom. I informed him I didn't have any merchandise, I only had my personal property (since it was all paid for). He said it's their policy. I said I don't work for Fry's, so I don't follow their policies after my business with them is completed. He said, "my boss said..." I said to go get your boss and tell him what I said and he can come in here and try to tell me I can't take a leak with my stuff if he wants to try that. He walked away, sorry he didn't finish college...
The mall cop could ask you to leave, and have you arrested for trespassing if you don't, but he sure as hell couldn't confiscate your camera without a serious lawsuit. If a mall security guard tried tho take my camera, I'd tell him to fuck himself. I am a lawyer (but not your lawyer), so just let them try to place their damned dirty ape hands on me!
Just like I tell them "no" when stores want to see my receipt as I exit the store. Businesses often purport to have rights they don't really have, i.e., "we reserve the right to inspect packages." There is no such right, absent a lawful shoplifting detention.
Don't be a sheep. Know your rights and stand up to unreasonable and intrusive behavior.
I don't believe Apple paid Xerox in an amicable fashion
Well, I'm not sure what amicable fashion means, but Xerox cashed the check. Don't let urban legends inform all of your opinions.
regardless, it does seem that you acknowledge that Jobs drew from a wellspring of ideas and success that was not entirely his own.
Of course. Only an ignorant dunderhead would claim that Jobs invented everything Apple sold (although he did hold over 300 patents at his death, and he did micromanage every product down to the screws used in iPhones). Is anyone really arguing that? That is just as dumb as saying Jobs was just a great marketer (Apple actually did *less* marketing than other companies).
Jobs was a visionary, a great business leader, executer, and to a large degree, an innovator. His greatest skill, IMO, was to see the future, something I'll bet HP wishes they had when Woz walked into their offices with the Apple I, and something that I'll bet Xerox wishes they had when they ignored their PARC engineers.
Asking how many patents I hold is an easy way to tell that somebody has no counter argument. Effectively a "NO U" response."
That might be true if that were my argument. My argument was that Jobs holds 300 patents and is therefore an innovator by definition. You chose to ignore that part and instead nibble at my snarky hook. Anyone who knows anything about Apple under Jobs is aware that he micromanaged everything and approved every detail of his products, down to the screws used on the iPhone. And Jobs is the one who put iPad on hold to make a touchscreen phone with iPad's technology. How many touchscreen smartphones were there before iPhone shipped?
And iOS is already being outsold by Android, so its 15 minutes of fame are over as well.
And now that 3GS's are free with contract, look for Android to get killed on the low end that they specialize in. And it has yet to be proven Google makes any money on Android, so don't get too cocky. Google spent two years of profits on Moto! HP is the market leader in PC's and they are dying to the the hell out of PC's, so market share isn't everything, bub. And that doesn't even count what Google is going to have to pay for each handset when they lose the lawsuit to Oracle. You know, Larry Ellison, Jobs' best friend? He's going to tax every Android handset. So yeah, just like with Facebook, let's see how profitable it turns out to be before we canonize the Google execs.
As for shoddy products, however, maybe you weren't actually around 20 years ago when Apple was in its darkest years, but they did in fact make a lot of really shitty machines.
I was around then, in fact, I was a stockholder then, and you are right, even I didn't know all the redundant, lackluster models from one another. But Jobs wasn't at Apple then, so that's irrelevant. He came back in '96, when Apple was 90 days from bankruptcy, and immediately cut the product line by the dozens to like 4 items, then turned Apple into a wildly profitable (they make in a quarter what Google does in a year) company that has the largest market cap on earth; from 3 billion to 350 billion in 15 years, while launching several computing revolutions (iPod, iPhone, iPad) that Android has been following like a hungry little puppy dog.
Jobs created the PC market in the late 70's (Woz wanted to give them away), then created a market to put one in every person's pocket (smartphones, another non-existent market before the iPhone, and no, Nokia doesn't count), then told everyone, "hey, the PC is dead, now we're using tablets," and everyone - including Android - dutifully followed.
So yeah, I'm calling Jobs the "most influential" if the metric is how many people and markets he influenced.
"Steve Wozniak designed the Apple 1 while he was employed at HP".
And he showed them the early Apple I and they looked at him like he'd shit on their desk. No vision whatsoever. Just like Xerox ignoring PARC employees. Or a Jobs-less Apple in the mid-90's ignoring Jony Ive's genius.
HP is currently the #1 computer manufacturer in the world.
Who just announced they are getting out of the PC business.
Learn your history and current events. Other than that, lots of information in your brain.
Steve Jobs was not an inventor, an engineer, an innovator, or any of these outlandish labels being applied to him
How many patents do you hold?
Steve Jobs was a business man. A man who spent his life making, largely, second-class products.
That's funny, for such shoddy products, Apple leads every year in customer satisfaction. Meanwhile, my Dell laptop and my GF's HP laptop are PoS paperweights. I've got a 20-year-old Mac that still boots and works great.
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At my private school, 98% of the students went on to college, and I can assure the scores were a helluva lot higher than public schools. Maybe you mean charter schools?
Tell me, what exactly does the Department of Education do? I've been a college professor at a public school for 13 years, and I don't have a clue. I'd love my state to keep all it's education money instead of sending it to DC to be squandered.
Most Slashdotters are tinfoil hatters, that's pretty obvious, yet want big government statism to regulate companies they don't like, like Microsoft.
"Get a Life" was hilarious. Then again, I've never gone to a ST convention...
Typical geeks, taking themselves way too seriously.
who made part of the $3B from programming for Apple. How much as the open source crowd made?
This link explains the difference: Treaties and Executive Agreements.
Since George Washington, presidents have been entering the US into international agreements that were not approved by the Senate, i.e., agreements pursuant to the constitutional authority of the president.
The constitutional sources of authority for the President to conclude international agreements include:
(a) The President’s authority as Chief Executive to represent the nation in foreign affairs;
(b) The President’s authority to receive ambassadors and other public ministers;
(c) The President’s authority as “Commander-in-Chief”; and
(d) The President’s authority to “take care that the laws be faithfully executed.”
So the Obama Admin will obviously claim this falls under his constitutional authority based on existing law. It will be interesting to see if SCOTUS takes the case, assuming one arises.
Please don't argue with the messenger here, I'm just presenting the law and the facts, not issuing a conclusion on ACTA's legality.
play Quake?
If some dumb security guy puts his damned dirty ape hands on you unlawfully, *you're the plaintiff* and he and his employer will be the ones with the legal bills. And in such a scenario, a lawyer would likely take your tort case on a contingency basis.
And it's "counsel."
> There is no such right, absent a lawful shoplifting detention.
Or that contract that you signed when you paid your annual membership dues. Refused your inspection? You just voluntarily terminated your contract, so you're free to walk out, but your account is canceled, and you'll never be allowed to shop at the chain again.
But hey, it's your right to refuse!
Do you know how many people come in and out of a Costco in a given day? If I walked out without showing my receipt, the guy at the door wouldn't know who I am. If I did this once a month for a year, maybe they might eventually recognize me. Maybe not.
Police have a "legitimate need" to stop lots of crimes. Searching everyone's homes without warrants would really help that. So can they come search yours, Mr. Helpful?
You're the fucktwit. In America, the law is clear: A shopkeeper needs probable cause to detain and search a person leaving his store. And me walking to a register and paying for everything in plain sight does not constitute probable cause, not even remotely close. It's settled law in all US jurisdictions, not an "invented right."
Why do you think they owe it to you to be helpful?
Well they are paid to do so. But I just laugh at their bad attitude, since I invariably know more about the product I am looking at than they do. But for the average Joe Six-Pack walking in there, they are horrible and make Best Buy look customer-friendly.
Another Internet tough guy, typing things he'd never say to someone's face.
Community college in my state is $27 a unit. Those too lazy to take advantage of it, or develop some other skill than being surly and unhelpful, as Fry's associates tend to be, can work for minimum wage and suck it. If that's elitist, so be it. The world doesn't owe anyone a living.
As do I, but keep in mind there are exceptions such as membership only stores like Sam's Club and Costco where you sign a contract stating that you will do just that.
Yes, but the contract doesn't say, "and if I don't show my receipt, you may detain me by force." And I'm about 99% certain Costco wouldn't be dumb enough to try. Yes, you'd be in breach of the agreement, but how would the person at the door even know who you are without seeing your membership card, which you wouldn't show on the way out either?
And yes, Fry's and the like can kiss my ass when they ask for a receipt. One time at Fry's, I went straight from the register to the bathroom to pee. Some associate came in and said, "sir, there's no merchandise allowed in the restroom. I informed him I didn't have any merchandise, I only had my personal property (since it was all paid for). He said it's their policy. I said I don't work for Fry's, so I don't follow their policies after my business with them is completed. He said, "my boss said..." I said to go get your boss and tell him what I said and he can come in here and try to tell me I can't take a leak with my stuff if he wants to try that. He walked away, sorry he didn't finish college...
We have this thing called a Fourth Amendment here in the US, Jerry Brown notwithstanding. Dammit Jim, I'm a lawyer, not a barrister!
The mall cop could ask you to leave, and have you arrested for trespassing if you don't, but he sure as hell couldn't confiscate your camera without a serious lawsuit. If a mall security guard tried tho take my camera, I'd tell him to fuck himself. I am a lawyer (but not your lawyer), so just let them try to place their damned dirty ape hands on me!
Just like I tell them "no" when stores want to see my receipt as I exit the store. Businesses often purport to have rights they don't really have, i.e., "we reserve the right to inspect packages." There is no such right, absent a lawful shoplifting detention.
Don't be a sheep. Know your rights and stand up to unreasonable and intrusive behavior.
I don't believe Apple paid Xerox in an amicable fashion
Well, I'm not sure what amicable fashion means, but Xerox cashed the check. Don't let urban legends inform all of your opinions.
regardless, it does seem that you acknowledge that Jobs drew from a wellspring of ideas and success that was not entirely his own.
Of course. Only an ignorant dunderhead would claim that Jobs invented everything Apple sold (although he did hold over 300 patents at his death, and he did micromanage every product down to the screws used in iPhones). Is anyone really arguing that? That is just as dumb as saying Jobs was just a great marketer (Apple actually did *less* marketing than other companies).
Jobs was a visionary, a great business leader, executer, and to a large degree, an innovator. His greatest skill, IMO, was to see the future, something I'll bet HP wishes they had when Woz walked into their offices with the Apple I, and something that I'll bet Xerox wishes they had when they ignored their PARC engineers.
Asking how many patents I hold is an easy way to tell that somebody has no counter argument. Effectively a "NO U" response."
That might be true if that were my argument. My argument was that Jobs holds 300 patents and is therefore an innovator by definition. You chose to ignore that part and instead nibble at my snarky hook. Anyone who knows anything about Apple under Jobs is aware that he micromanaged everything and approved every detail of his products, down to the screws used on the iPhone. And Jobs is the one who put iPad on hold to make a touchscreen phone with iPad's technology. How many touchscreen smartphones were there before iPhone shipped?
And iOS is already being outsold by Android, so its 15 minutes of fame are over as well.
This is untrue. Android is not outselling iOS:
http://www.tuaw.com/2011/10/03/report-suggests-ios-hit-all-time-market-share-high/
http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/11/10/10/ipad_now_97_of_tablet_traffic_eclipses_iphone_ios_remains_mobile_leader.html
And now that 3GS's are free with contract, look for Android to get killed on the low end that they specialize in. And it has yet to be proven Google makes any money on Android, so don't get too cocky. Google spent two years of profits on Moto! HP is the market leader in PC's and they are dying to the the hell out of PC's, so market share isn't everything, bub. And that doesn't even count what Google is going to have to pay for each handset when they lose the lawsuit to Oracle. You know, Larry Ellison, Jobs' best friend? He's going to tax every Android handset. So yeah, just like with Facebook, let's see how profitable it turns out to be before we canonize the Google execs.
As for shoddy products, however, maybe you weren't actually around 20 years ago when Apple was in its darkest years, but they did in fact make a lot of really shitty machines.
I was around then, in fact, I was a stockholder then, and you are right, even I didn't know all the redundant, lackluster models from one another. But Jobs wasn't at Apple then, so that's irrelevant. He came back in '96, when Apple was 90 days from bankruptcy, and immediately cut the product line by the dozens to like 4 items, then turned Apple into a wildly profitable (they make in a quarter what Google does in a year) company that has the largest market cap on earth; from 3 billion to 350 billion in 15 years, while launching several computing revolutions (iPod, iPhone, iPad) that Android has been following like a hungry little puppy dog.
Nobody bought one of those to surf the Web or use apps.
I'm a lawyer and law professor and have a degree in political science. Your credentials?
Nokia's smartphones and Microsoft's tablets were just flying off the shelves, then iOS came along?
Jobs created the PC market in the late 70's (Woz wanted to give them away), then created a market to put one in every person's pocket (smartphones, another non-existent market before the iPhone, and no, Nokia doesn't count), then told everyone, "hey, the PC is dead, now we're using tablets," and everyone - including Android - dutifully followed.
So yeah, I'm calling Jobs the "most influential" if the metric is how many people and markets he influenced.
"Steve Wozniak designed the Apple 1 while he was employed at HP".
And he showed them the early Apple I and they looked at him like he'd shit on their desk. No vision whatsoever. Just like Xerox ignoring PARC employees. Or a Jobs-less Apple in the mid-90's ignoring Jony Ive's genius.
HP is currently the #1 computer manufacturer in the world.
Who just announced they are getting out of the PC business.
Learn your history and current events. Other than that, lots of information in your brain.
When he showed them the early Apple PC prototype? A visionary sees what other people don't.
You having a right to say something doesn't mean I can't call you out as a total asshole for saying it.
"The law often allows what honor forbids." -- Bernard-Joseph Saurin.
Steve Jobs was not an inventor, an engineer, an innovator, or any of these outlandish labels being applied to him
How many patents do you hold?
Steve Jobs was a business man. A man who spent his life making, largely, second-class products.
That's funny, for such shoddy products, Apple leads every year in customer satisfaction. Meanwhile, my Dell laptop and my GF's HP laptop are PoS paperweights. I've got a 20-year-old Mac that still boots and works great.