Umm... they aren't sending the keys out via snail-mail... they're emailing the keys. Oh and just imagine if they tried emailing 100,000 600MB files... ouch
"shouldn't there be a law saying if it's bad software we can return it?"
Some states do in fact have what are called "Lemon Laws", saying that companies can not knowingly sell products that do not work. While I had no problems with Myst III, and I didn't read the bugs section of the readme, if they say they know of these errors and unsupported hardware and yet still market it as being compatable with said hardware, that is illegal in any state that has lemon laws, because they know what they're selling wont work.
Check with your local government office to see if your state has such laws. I know for a fact that Pennsylvania (where I live) has such laws.
These screenshots are simply amazing... especially considering the level of detail most other MMORPGs have out right now. The only question I have is; How will it look for Joe Blow sitting at home on his 56k dialup? I'm betting you'll need a godly connection to be able to get those kinds of graphics.
Not much of a concern on my part as I'll have a good connection... but I want to be able to play with my friends on their modems.
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I believe what he was going for with that statement is that the movie aimed to be fun and entertaining, rather than a serious and deep movie with some really deep and meaningful message to it.
While it is good to have movies that are deep and insightful, a lot of movies forget that the reason we're going to the theaters is to be entertained. I've seen movies that are so caught up in themselves in attempts to take the moral high ground or strive for an oscar, that they simply aren't entertaining.
I think it's important that movies achieve the "fun" or entertaining factor first, then look to be deep and meaningful. There are a good number of movies that have done this very well (see most Robin Williams movies).
While I enjoy movies that make me think, my first priority when I plop down that $7 to see a movie is that I come away entertained. And honestly animated films manage this better more consistently than most serious adult films.
Remeber where you were when you first used the Web? I was at my father's office at the local University right after he had just been hooked up to the 'net.
God bless NCSA Mosiac, Veronica, Archie, Gopher and all the rest! The days when the net was good!
Hey why not? We're suing game producers over school violence, because it's just so obvious that video games inspire kids to take up arms and start shooting, we sue the media constantly for being such a bad influence, we sue the schools for not doing the jobs parents should be doing, and we're suing the parents in a blatant grab for money.
The only thing left is to sue the people who came up with the specs for programming languages, or maybe the companies or organizations that sell/provide compilers. I mean, if it weren't for them, there would be no video games to inspire shootings, or in this case no language to power the computers this kid hacked that got him suspended that led to his suicide. It all makes sense right?
It seems we're so ready to assign blame left and right, just so there is someone to blame to make us feel better about ourselves. What happened was horrible, I can not begin to imagine the pain those parents are going through right now and I only wish them the best of luck in dealing with all that will come their way as a result of this, but I would be one of the first to tell them to shut up and sit down if they tried to blame anyone for what happened. Why? Because there is no one to blame, the kid had something wrong in his head, he just suddenly snapped with no warning for anyone to pick up on. You can't fix or solve a problem that isn't there one second, and suddenly is the next.
Wow, trying anything that drastic on my machine would result in it reverting to its origional component atoms... I, like Hemos, have horrible computer karma. I think the pixie dust in his computer and the little magical gnomes in mine work for the same union or something. In the past year I have fried the following parts of my computer:
1 RealTek Network Interface Card
1 GeForce 256 Graphics Card
1 Western Digital 10gb HDD
1 PCI fan card
2 Hard Drive Fans
1 Floppy Drive
Those disasters happened entirely independant of each other, and I know power isn't an issue as I have had the power supply looked at and I've had the machine plugged into different locations when parts went bad.
Moding my case with something like that would cause my bad karma to manifest itself physically into Murphy himself to smite down my poor machine!
I do not believe that companies are out to screw over their customers on the other side of the pond.
Keep in mind that a majority of game developers are based in the US. Since Blizzard only wants to do a limited test of the expansion, it makes sense that they limit it to the continent they are based on. International shipping costs are an unnecesary expense for a beta test.
As for getting games weeks behind the US... that's also because a majority of game companies, publishers, and distributors are based in the US. When they decide to ship, they want there game out there ASAP, and the US is the easiest maket to hit first.
I understand your frustration at having to wait for everything and not being eligable for most betas, but look at it as a logistical situation... it doesn't make sense for companies to do an international beta test. Lionhead did an extensive amount of beta testing for B&W (though sometimes I wonder about that...) in England, their home country... Why wasn't there a beta test in the US? Because it would be stupid to spend all that money on shipping when they have a cheaper solution.
It's not always about us Americans getting all the breaks.
Now I can't get any of those "get rich quick" emails from my aussie compatriots... how will I support myself? I guess that also means I wont get any more of those joke emails that have been circulating since time began from my aussie friends.
Damn the Australian government! Because of them I will be reduced to a humo[u]rless bankrupt geek!
I'm not standing on a soap box crying out the wonders of Windows or Linux or BSD or UNIX or anything like that, I am merely critcizing the manner in which Apple has developed and plans to release OS X. I am a former mac lover (I moved over to PCs about 4 years ago due to increasing delays in software releases between platforms), so I know the loyalty many feel towards the company.
Of course you need to freeze the API at some point so software developers can get their products working with it, it's stupid to expect otherwise. But freezing the API is different from making the product commercially available. Many die-hard Mac computer geeks (I do not use the term in a negative manner) will snatch it up and start fiddling as they have with the beta. The problem arises when someone who doesn't know what they're doing, wanders into their local computer store and sees the brand new Macintosh OS X sitting on the shelf, and if they're like a majority of people who lack a certain degree of computer knowledge will pick it up and try to install it figuring that if the company released it, it must be good.
I know you're going to refer to all the windows releases for their emmense bugs and problems on ship, and I agree... I criticize any company for releasing a product for public use before it's really ready for it. Every time a new version of Windows comes out, or a new version of the Linux kernel is developed, I wait a year or more before installing it, waiting for bugs to be addressed and patches to be made available.
Oh Apple will probably have the update available for free download or something, but what I'm refering to once again is Joe Blow who has a 28.8 modem who can't download an entire update, he will be the one hit in the wallet the worst.
Hrrm, let's look at this here... unsupported hardware that's become industry standard, numerous bugs and errors that can cause system hangs or freezes, those bugs are acknowledged by Apple, and they're saying that they really want people to just wait a few months for the real thing to come out.
This sounds EXACTLY like a beta test, except they're charging money for it AGAIN, and will most likely charge for the OS X 1.0 to 1.1 upgrade. Good marketing plan guys, release a product you know doesn't fully work and then charge your most devout followers twice over for it. Apple needs to reexamine it's approach to its users, this is like a slap in the face.
-Z
Now I'm off to the store to get some food before that damn nor'easter hits and ruins my spring break
The Sims is a great example of a game where you don't compete over resources or whatnot... hell you don't even ever "win" the game... you just keep going. Actually all the Sim* Games are like that, you have an unlimited amount of resources (you have to earn them granted), no set goals (aside from those you decide yourself), and no endgame at all.. The focus of the game is the fun of playing
Oh wow did that auction bring back memories... I used to have a ton of transformers, though where they went to is a mystery. I even had Fortress Maximus (that REALLY tall autobot in the 87 set), man that was cool, a transformer comparable to my own height! Transformers and Legos were the toys I grew up with. I can't believe the crap they put out now and call "toys"... these little plastic things that you can't even cut your hand open with! I mean what's the fun in that?! I remember cutting my feet and hands open all the time stepping on scattered transformers or trying to force some part to move... this worked because they were made out of metal, real sturdy stuff.
I say we bring back toys that could inflict serious damage! Get Darwin back in children's lives!
It's all about survival of the fittest! The kid who swallowed too many marbles never made it to reproduce.
Upon reading this article, I couldn't help but flash-back to an article posted on Slashdot in the past few months. Seems the Re-Configurable Robot is a popular project now.
Gee, and here I was going to piece together some crap intel system... now I can have a Sun system as server to my in-house LAN! P3 vs UltraSparc? Easy... Solaris 8 vs Win2k/NT? a breeze... and Slackware will soon have it's distro for sparc computers! And even a poor college student such as myself can afford this sweet box!
Remember the battle between VHS and Beta? I myself have only a vague recollection of that, but hearing about this drudges up memories. The industry has already moved to make DVD the next standard... quality may not be as high but it has several things going for it:
1)Cost, DVDs are WAY cheaper to both buy and produce
2)They're already out there... every new computer has a dvd player, video game consoles are coming out with DVD capability...
3)Longevity (sp?), a DVD will last just about forever if you take proper care of it, no worries of it being ruined by your player, or it being destroied when your son or daughter decides to put peanut butter in the dvd player (though the player itself will most likely not fare too well)
4)Size... DVDs are small and can be caried anywhere easily, those D-VHS tapes are larger than standard VHS tapes, and we know how portable those things are to begin with.
Too little too late JVC... if you had this just a few years earlier, MAYBE it woulda taken off. The only way these things will stay around is if JVC finds a way to force companies to use that technology over DVD somehow.
Here's an explanation of what happened to the Undernet...
Romanian teen takes down IRC network
By by Kristi Coale, Wired
A Romanian teenager bent on revenge brought significant portions of the Undernet and several Internet service providers to a halt when he launched a series of smurf attacks.
The unidentified youth launched smurf attacks against at least five hubs operated worldwide by the Internet Relay Chat network Undernet, obliterated an Internet service provider's server in Oslo, Norway, and took down servers operated by AOL, said Undernet system administrators. The FBI's computer crimes division is investigating the incidents.
"We have some of the greatest minds in Internet technology here, and they couldn't do anything [to stop the attack]," said one Under Net operator who would not give their real name.
AOL representatives were unavailable for comment on the extent of damage they incurred.
Another Under Net operator stated that the attack began Saturday when the unidentified youth telnetted from Romania to FishNet, a Ventura, California-based Internet service provider. Once he obtained highest-level "root" access at FishNet, the youth launched at least smurf attacks - one against his former Internet service provider, the Romania-based Logicnet, and another against a UUNet service in New York.
"Fortunately, he wasn't too bright because he left a lot of trails," said Bill Benefield, a system administrator with FishNet.
Benefield said the youth entered FishNet services via news and mail server daemons, leaving his electronic footprints in the server logs.
The youth, who is believed to be between 16 and 19 years of age, then went on a juggernaut across the global network, stopping first at ISPs in Oslo, London and other parts of the UK, as well as hitting Chicago ISP Napnet.
At each stop, the youth would log onto the server, obtain root access, then delete files, canceling accounts. In some cases, it wiped out the entire businesses such as the ISP in Oslo.
I've always wanted the fastest and the best money can buy when it comes to processors, when I built my current computer, the P3 733 was one of the top chips on the market and I bought it. So now I have this amazingly fast processor that should be able to figure out how many angels you can fit on the head of a pin... So it has the ability to crunch numbers faster than any human alive... woohoo... great... spectacular...
But what does this mean to Joe Moron who uses his computer for: e-mail, web surfing, word processing... and if he's really advanced, scanning pictures or importing from a digital camera. He could just as easily do this with a 500 MHz machine. In fact, for what 99% of the world uses it's computers for, 500MHz will be the fastest they'll need for a long time (or until MS figures a way to make something like notepad require a P4, with 512MB RAM, and a 3D card to run). Windows and Office are bloated, but not THAT bloated (well.. not yet).
In 5 years what will there be that the average user (or even the power user for that matter) will need something that absurdly fast? I can see it now... "I can crunch SETI@Home packets in under 20 seconds!"
And in reference to an earlier comment on this thread... I hope they make that 'Goddamned Paperclip' a 3d sprite... means I can put the little S.O.B into Q3A and blow it into LITTLE bitty pieces!
With the BSA going into scare and thug tactics, I think it might be to our interests to start reading those stupid EULAs that every program comes with.
You know, those things that say technically you don't own the software, that it is on loan to you from the company. Just waiting to see a little line about how they would have the right of search and siezure of your equipment if pirated software is suspected to be on the computer.
It appears this abandonware site has fallen victem to the "Slashdot Effect"... too bad, was gonna see if I could find any of my old favorites this afternoon too...
Everyone knows which houses give out good-for-you crap, and avoid them if at all possible... then there are the Dentist's houses that no one goes within a mile of.... Imagine the distances people would go to avoid the "Geek".... hey, do that next year, and all following years you'll be sure to have all that candy you buy to yourself the next day!
And can you see what will happen next?... I've heard of parent groups going nuts over people who give out apples and such (There could be a thermonuclear device hidden in there! Think about the children!), now you'll have activist groups on your door thinking you're trying to spread satanic software and trying to corrupt computers and children... afterall, to any good Parents Church Group (TM), Windows is the OS of God:-P
What will you do to protect the rights of atheists and those who hold minority faiths, such as Wicca, Santaria, Shinto, et al?
Your answer:
Now, I must admit that I don't personally agree with all the hub-bub and pure hogwash surrounding these religions, but as my Daddy once told me: "Son, some people are right as rain, and others wrong as theat geography teacher of yours in High School, but you gotta listen to them anyway" I don't really know how this relates to the question, but it seemed fitting. Now I'm sure Vice President Gore will try to wobble around the issue, sidestep and just flat-out avoid answering... I wont do that, I'll get right to the point and give you, the American Public (TM), an honest, straight answer... and to do that I need to mention my Health Care plan....
When I get put on a mailing/spam list that wont let me unsubscribe, I simply setup a filter in my email program and send any such messages on into my trash bin. Very effective, and quick and easy.
Censorship, lets scream for our first ammendment rights! I hate censorship as much as anyone else, and think that it's a complete contradiction for the public education system to censor information, however I'd rather have it left to the school and the community as is being proposed.
Early last year I participated in an online video conference with Sen. Rick Santorum (R-PA), where myself and a panel of fellow students were able to pick at the proposed bill. What we extracted from the senator after a great deal of questioning was that this bill is not as bad as many have made it to be. As was proposed by Santorum, and what we were able to question him on would leave the censorship up entirely to individual communities, not some company with a political list of blocked sites.
This only pertains to websites, other services many of us use online will still be left alone. Now I'm not saying this is a good bill, but it is a much better proposal compared to the extent of filtering the government has proposed in the past. This path takes the middle road. The extremists will be happy because something is being done, and the more level-headed are able to make sure that the ban list isn't made based on some political agenda.
Leave it in the hands of the communities and the individual schools you have a greater chance of only the truely offensive sites being blocked. Some will swing the way of the extremists and block everything (sadly, as the local public school here, where the video conference took place has), but there may be a few who do take this responsibly.
This is the best compromise I've yet seen in the way of censorship legislation.
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Umm... they aren't sending the keys out via snail-mail... they're emailing the keys. Oh and just imagine if they tried emailing 100,000 600MB files... ouch
Some states do in fact have what are called "Lemon Laws", saying that companies can not knowingly sell products that do not work. While I had no problems with Myst III, and I didn't read the bugs section of the readme, if they say they know of these errors and unsupported hardware and yet still market it as being compatable with said hardware, that is illegal in any state that has lemon laws, because they know what they're selling wont work.
Check with your local government office to see if your state has such laws. I know for a fact that Pennsylvania (where I live) has such laws.
Not much of a concern on my part as I'll have a good connection... but I want to be able to play with my friends on their modems.
I think it's important that movies achieve the "fun" or entertaining factor first, then look to be deep and meaningful. There are a good number of movies that have done this very well (see most Robin Williams movies). While I enjoy movies that make me think, my first priority when I plop down that $7 to see a movie is that I come away entertained. And honestly animated films manage this better more consistently than most serious adult films.
Remeber where you were when you first used the Web? I was at my father's office at the local University right after he had just been hooked up to the 'net. God bless NCSA Mosiac, Veronica, Archie, Gopher and all the rest! The days when the net was good!
The only thing left is to sue the people who came up with the specs for programming languages, or maybe the companies or organizations that sell/provide compilers. I mean, if it weren't for them, there would be no video games to inspire shootings, or in this case no language to power the computers this kid hacked that got him suspended that led to his suicide. It all makes sense right?
It seems we're so ready to assign blame left and right, just so there is someone to blame to make us feel better about ourselves. What happened was horrible, I can not begin to imagine the pain those parents are going through right now and I only wish them the best of luck in dealing with all that will come their way as a result of this, but I would be one of the first to tell them to shut up and sit down if they tried to blame anyone for what happened. Why? Because there is no one to blame, the kid had something wrong in his head, he just suddenly snapped with no warning for anyone to pick up on. You can't fix or solve a problem that isn't there one second, and suddenly is the next.
1 RealTek Network Interface Card
1 GeForce 256 Graphics Card
1 Western Digital 10gb HDD
1 PCI fan card
2 Hard Drive Fans
1 Floppy Drive
Those disasters happened entirely independant of each other, and I know power isn't an issue as I have had the power supply looked at and I've had the machine plugged into different locations when parts went bad.
Moding my case with something like that would cause my bad karma to manifest itself physically into Murphy himself to smite down my poor machine!
-Z
Keep in mind that a majority of game developers are based in the US. Since Blizzard only wants to do a limited test of the expansion, it makes sense that they limit it to the continent they are based on. International shipping costs are an unnecesary expense for a beta test.
As for getting games weeks behind the US... that's also because a majority of game companies, publishers, and distributors are based in the US. When they decide to ship, they want there game out there ASAP, and the US is the easiest maket to hit first.
I understand your frustration at having to wait for everything and not being eligable for most betas, but look at it as a logistical situation... it doesn't make sense for companies to do an international beta test. Lionhead did an extensive amount of beta testing for B&W (though sometimes I wonder about that...) in England, their home country... Why wasn't there a beta test in the US? Because it would be stupid to spend all that money on shipping when they have a cheaper solution.
It's not always about us Americans getting all the breaks.
-Z
Damn the Australian government! Because of them I will be reduced to a humo[u]rless bankrupt geek!
-Z
Of course you need to freeze the API at some point so software developers can get their products working with it, it's stupid to expect otherwise. But freezing the API is different from making the product commercially available. Many die-hard Mac computer geeks (I do not use the term in a negative manner) will snatch it up and start fiddling as they have with the beta. The problem arises when someone who doesn't know what they're doing, wanders into their local computer store and sees the brand new Macintosh OS X sitting on the shelf, and if they're like a majority of people who lack a certain degree of computer knowledge will pick it up and try to install it figuring that if the company released it, it must be good.
I know you're going to refer to all the windows releases for their emmense bugs and problems on ship, and I agree... I criticize any company for releasing a product for public use before it's really ready for it. Every time a new version of Windows comes out, or a new version of the Linux kernel is developed, I wait a year or more before installing it, waiting for bugs to be addressed and patches to be made available.
Oh Apple will probably have the update available for free download or something, but what I'm refering to once again is Joe Blow who has a 28.8 modem who can't download an entire update, he will be the one hit in the wallet the worst.
-Z
This sounds EXACTLY like a beta test, except they're charging money for it AGAIN, and will most likely charge for the OS X 1.0 to 1.1 upgrade. Good marketing plan guys, release a product you know doesn't fully work and then charge your most devout followers twice over for it. Apple needs to reexamine it's approach to its users, this is like a slap in the face.
-Z
Now I'm off to the store to get some food before that damn nor'easter hits and ruins my spring break
-Z
I say we bring back toys that could inflict serious damage! Get Darwin back in children's lives!
It's all about survival of the fittest! The kid who swallowed too many marbles never made it to reproduce.
-Z
See the /. posting on the CONRO project, a joint USC/ISI project:m l
http://slashdot.org/articles/00/12/26/0750248.sht
Or go directly to the CONRO Website:
http://www.isi.edu/conro/
-Z
THANK YOU SUN! :-)
-Z
1)Cost, DVDs are WAY cheaper to both buy and produce
2)They're already out there... every new computer has a dvd player, video game consoles are coming out with DVD capability...
3)Longevity (sp?), a DVD will last just about forever if you take proper care of it, no worries of it being ruined by your player, or it being destroied when your son or daughter decides to put peanut butter in the dvd player (though the player itself will most likely not fare too well)
4)Size... DVDs are small and can be caried anywhere easily, those D-VHS tapes are larger than standard VHS tapes, and we know how portable those things are to begin with.
Too little too late JVC... if you had this just a few years earlier, MAYBE it woulda taken off. The only way these things will stay around is if JVC finds a way to force companies to use that technology over DVD somehow.
-Z
I suppose I should read the articles before I make posts... *sheepish grin*
Romanian teen takes down IRC network
By by Kristi Coale, Wired
A Romanian teenager bent on revenge brought significant portions of the Undernet and several Internet service providers to a halt when he launched a series of smurf attacks.
The unidentified youth launched smurf attacks against at least five hubs operated worldwide by the Internet Relay Chat network Undernet, obliterated an Internet service provider's server in Oslo, Norway, and took down servers operated by AOL, said Undernet system administrators. The FBI's computer crimes division is investigating the incidents.
"We have some of the greatest minds in Internet technology here, and they couldn't do anything [to stop the attack]," said one Under Net operator who would not give their real name.
AOL representatives were unavailable for comment on the extent of damage they incurred.
Another Under Net operator stated that the attack began Saturday when the unidentified youth telnetted from Romania to FishNet, a Ventura, California-based Internet service provider. Once he obtained highest-level "root" access at FishNet, the youth launched at least smurf attacks - one against his former Internet service provider, the Romania-based Logicnet, and another against a UUNet service in New York.
"Fortunately, he wasn't too bright because he left a lot of trails," said Bill Benefield, a system administrator with FishNet.
Benefield said the youth entered FishNet services via news and mail server daemons, leaving his electronic footprints in the server logs.
The youth, who is believed to be between 16 and 19 years of age, then went on a juggernaut across the global network, stopping first at ISPs in Oslo, London and other parts of the UK, as well as hitting Chicago ISP Napnet.
At each stop, the youth would log onto the server, obtain root access, then delete files, canceling accounts. In some cases, it wiped out the entire businesses such as the ISP in Oslo.
But what does this mean to Joe Moron who uses his computer for: e-mail, web surfing, word processing... and if he's really advanced, scanning pictures or importing from a digital camera. He could just as easily do this with a 500 MHz machine. In fact, for what 99% of the world uses it's computers for, 500MHz will be the fastest they'll need for a long time (or until MS figures a way to make something like notepad require a P4, with 512MB RAM, and a 3D card to run). Windows and Office are bloated, but not THAT bloated (well.. not yet).
In 5 years what will there be that the average user (or even the power user for that matter) will need something that absurdly fast? I can see it now... "I can crunch SETI@Home packets in under 20 seconds!"
And in reference to an earlier comment on this thread... I hope they make that 'Goddamned Paperclip' a 3d sprite... means I can put the little S.O.B into Q3A and blow it into LITTLE bitty pieces!
-Z
You know, those things that say technically you don't own the software, that it is on loan to you from the company. Just waiting to see a little line about how they would have the right of search and siezure of your equipment if pirated software is suspected to be on the computer.
1...9...8...4
It appears this abandonware site has fallen victem to the "Slashdot Effect"... too bad, was gonna see if I could find any of my old favorites this afternoon too...
And can you see what will happen next?... I've heard of parent groups going nuts over people who give out apples and such (There could be a thermonuclear device hidden in there! Think about the children!), now you'll have activist groups on your door thinking you're trying to spread satanic software and trying to corrupt computers and children... afterall, to any good Parents Church Group (TM), Windows is the OS of God :-P
by Electric Angst
What will you do to protect the rights of atheists and those who hold minority faiths, such as Wicca, Santaria, Shinto, et al?
Your answer:
Now, I must admit that I don't personally agree with all the hub-bub and pure hogwash surrounding these religions, but as my Daddy once told me: "Son, some people are right as rain, and others wrong as theat geography teacher of yours in High School, but you gotta listen to them anyway" I don't really know how this relates to the question, but it seemed fitting. Now I'm sure Vice President Gore will try to wobble around the issue, sidestep and just flat-out avoid answering... I wont do that, I'll get right to the point and give you, the American Public (TM), an honest, straight answer... and to do that I need to mention my Health Care plan....
When I get put on a mailing/spam list that wont let me unsubscribe, I simply setup a filter in my email program and send any such messages on into my trash bin. Very effective, and quick and easy.
Early last year I participated in an online video conference with Sen. Rick Santorum (R-PA), where myself and a panel of fellow students were able to pick at the proposed bill. What we extracted from the senator after a great deal of questioning was that this bill is not as bad as many have made it to be. As was proposed by Santorum, and what we were able to question him on would leave the censorship up entirely to individual communities, not some company with a political list of blocked sites.
This only pertains to websites, other services many of us use online will still be left alone. Now I'm not saying this is a good bill, but it is a much better proposal compared to the extent of filtering the government has proposed in the past. This path takes the middle road. The extremists will be happy because something is being done, and the more level-headed are able to make sure that the ban list isn't made based on some political agenda.
Leave it in the hands of the communities and the individual schools you have a greater chance of only the truely offensive sites being blocked. Some will swing the way of the extremists and block everything (sadly, as the local public school here, where the video conference took place has), but there may be a few who do take this responsibly.
This is the best compromise I've yet seen in the way of censorship legislation.