when the k6-3s were being announced i often could find mail order houses selling them for 30% less than the price given by AMD. i'm not all too sure how true this will hold with a high end chip like the k7(why a fakey name?).
you have to cool to be able to overclock or else the heat will crash it. FWIW one of the guys from Kyrotech died a few days later from alcohol poisoning due to overcelebration, which is a real bummer -- he will be missed
The original concept of OSS was that how people would give back was in fixed/enhanced/new code. somehow there must be a way for a publisher to give back(other than straight cash/donation) to the community while at the same time helping themselves. After all, its not as if we have been having alot of trouble getting linux distributed to all those who want it. what makes the OSS merry-go-round go round is that all work fits the "something in it for me, something in it for everyone else" category. however, i really don't see where a publisher fits in there. thoughts?
I see you doing your own thinking and drawing your conclusions here. I'm not trying to be the next Katz here and call this the next revolution or anything, but the more poeople that stand back and look and make rational decisions about how to spend their money to contribute back to the community, the better off the community is as a whole -- not only because you will be supporting it, but also because we have another thinker amongst us. The GPL(and other freer licences) are a means of providing freedom, in this case to publishers. It is hard to begrudge the publishers that freedom which we are allowed, but in no way are our own freedoms violated -- we can decide what we buy.
And heh I'm with you, I'll boycott it too.(this shouldn't be too hard for anyone who cares about the future of the community to do)
if an app has featuritis, the best way to do it is in plugins. plugins allow the bloat to be minimal, unless the plugin is in use, the only bloat is the hooks to allow the plugins, plus plugins are cool, they offer great expansion options without ruining compatibility. the only problem with plugins is storage space, but that is a much smaller problem than having loads of code in ram that does nothing, and seriously the amount of space needed for plugins, especially in an mp3 player) is nowhere near the amount of data that they are needed to process.
i've never actually purchased from them yet, but they have given back to the community through booth sponsorships and such. they are geared alot more to the home power-user than varesearch(which i thought would be more appealing to slapdashers) which focuses for the most part on businesses. They sell alpha workstations at reasonable prices too. I definately recommend at least having a look at their website(which even looks nice), as they seem like the perfect solution to having to pay inexorbiant amounts for a preconfigured linux box.
My only gripe is that they don't sell AMD based systems, oh well my next computer will be from them anyway
it would be that way if the libs weren't evolving so rapidly, currently the lib developers aren't the only ones developing the libs, they are getting hacked together to do what a app developer needs them to do. you have a good point, but it isn't really applicable to libs that are changing this rapidly
keep in mind that unstable == development (what developers usually use because they are looking to the future)
it all gets to the users in the end, but developers *use* the bleeding edge stuff. most developers aren't going to give a rat's ass if you don't get the brand spanking new stuff, you can always wait until all the devel libs are into stable. there are many reasons for the developers to use the devel libs: to help guide the next versions, have their input taken, and to be prepared for the future. sure this is a release of x11amp, and you do have a point, but asking a developer to bend over backward and support the present instead of looking to the future is a pretty silly attitude, after all the developers aren't doing this just to make you happy.
my advice, don't ask to be treated like a user : )
but it is a loud publicity stunt that brings to attention how MS has OEMs by the "shorthairs". Sure the idea of people getting money back for a worthless product shoved on them is nice, but this is all happening for the publicity and rightness of it all.
they would probably know
all amd makes is the chip and a chipset, what you need to do is drop an email to your favorite motherboard maker letting them know your concern.
when the k6-3s were being announced i often could find mail order houses selling them for 30% less than the price given by AMD. i'm not all too sure how true this will hold with a high end chip like the k7(why a fakey name?).
you have to cool to be able to overclock or else the heat will crash it. FWIW one of the guys from Kyrotech died a few days later from alcohol poisoning due to overcelebration, which is a real bummer -- he will be missed
it makes more sence to port glib/gdk/gtk so that all gtk apps are easier to port to the platform, after all gtk is a very nice toolkit.
they are freer than gpl, it don't get better than that, gpl is too restrictive licence, hence it isn't used by Xfree
I'm sure both you and WinNT are known for short uptimes
.. i'm just playing around : )
have a nice day
I'm sure both you and WinNT are known for short uptimes
it has nothing to do with egos -- each are written with fully different APIs -- hell, gnome is still more api than anything else
The original concept of OSS was that how people would give back was in fixed/enhanced/new code. somehow there must be a way for a publisher to give back(other than straight cash/donation) to the community while at the same time helping themselves. After all, its not as if we have been having alot of trouble getting linux distributed to all those who want it. what makes the OSS merry-go-round go round is that all work fits the "something in it for me, something in it for everyone else" category.
however, i really don't see where a publisher fits in there.
thoughts?
I see you doing your own thinking and drawing your conclusions here. I'm not trying to be the next Katz here and call this the next revolution or anything, but the more poeople that stand back and look and make rational decisions about how to spend their money to contribute back to the community, the better off the community is as a whole -- not only because you will be supporting it, but also because we have another thinker amongst us. The GPL(and other freer licences) are a means of providing freedom, in this case to publishers. It is hard to begrudge the publishers that freedom which we are allowed, but in no way are our own freedoms violated -- we can decide what we buy.
And heh I'm with you, I'll boycott it too.(this shouldn't be too hard for anyone who cares about the future of the community to do)
if an app has featuritis, the best way to do it is in plugins.
plugins allow the bloat to be minimal, unless the plugin is in use, the only bloat is the hooks to allow the plugins, plus plugins are cool, they offer great expansion options without ruining compatibility.
the only problem with plugins is storage space, but that is a much smaller problem than having loads of code in ram that does nothing, and seriously the amount of space needed for plugins, especially in an mp3 player) is nowhere near the amount of data that they are needed to process.
kimp won't happen unless a free qt is ever released.
is it hawat that says that? (or something fairly close to that : ) )
I dunno about all of those, but as for the sistine chapel -- his jailers : )
but seriously, numbers are great, better when they are backed up. more people will die from analrape at the zoo ...
www.linux-hw.com
i've never actually purchased from them yet, but they have given back to the community through booth sponsorships and such. they are geared alot more to the home power-user than varesearch(which i thought would be more appealing to slapdashers) which focuses for the most part on businesses. They sell alpha workstations at reasonable prices too. I definately recommend at least having a look at their website(which even looks nice), as they seem like the perfect solution to having to pay inexorbiant amounts for a preconfigured linux box.
My only gripe is that they don't sell AMD based systems, oh well my next computer will be from them anyway
it would be that way if the libs weren't evolving so rapidly, currently the lib developers aren't the only ones developing the libs, they are getting hacked together to do what a app developer needs them to do. you have a good point, but it isn't really applicable to libs that are changing this rapidly
developers use development libs, get used to it
keep in mind that unstable == development (what developers usually use because they are looking to the future)
it all gets to the users in the end, but developers *use* the bleeding edge stuff. most developers aren't going to give a rat's ass if you don't get the brand spanking new stuff, you can always wait until all the devel libs are into stable. there are many reasons for the developers to use the devel libs: to help guide the next versions, have their input taken, and to be prepared for the future. sure this is a release of x11amp, and you do have a point, but asking a developer to bend over backward and support the present instead of looking to the future is a pretty silly attitude, after all the developers aren't doing this just to make you happy.
my advice, don't ask to be treated like a user : )
i've seen them at my dad's machine shop. i was pretty surprised, but heh it was pretty cool to see. now i know that i wasn't just seeing things : )
but it is a loud publicity stunt that brings to attention how MS has OEMs by the "shorthairs". Sure the idea of people getting money back for a worthless product shoved on them is nice, but this is all happening for the publicity and rightness of it all.
but since it is open source i can change it.
those who are complaining are invited to fix whatever they see wrong, a branch in mozilla would in no way weaken it