Don't waste your time. These guys think the Republican Congress is in the tank for Clinton, which is the only way they can understand why she wasn't charged with perjury.
They assume she was guilty of *something* and start from there.
He is a member of the elite, he's just an outcast. The elite recoiled in horror because they know him *personally*. All of the lies, sexual assaults, mob connections, corrupt deals, scams, they all knew about long before half of America dismissed them as slander.
The American media has become far too good at making the average Joe hate anyone who might be trying to help him. This causes them to flail about blindly. They become easy prey to con men.
There's a new political correctness. it's not ok to call a racist, misogynist fascist a racist misogynist fascist. His supporters won't like it! Even though for a lot of them, it's one of those three things they like about him.
Christ, you guys sound like the naive Obama supporters in 2008.
The president is not going to save you. He's not the messiah, he's not even a dictator. You're supposed to vote for the better person, the smart one, the one who knows what they're doing.
I'm the first to admit that Hilary isn't really smart enough or good enough to be a good president, but Trump isn't even close.
Keeping private is not "hiding". Are you "hiding" your phone number? No? Post it then.
I am hiding my phone number. Are you suggesting that because I'm hiding my phone number, it's ok for Trump to hide his taxes?
He clearly hates non-white That's not what his black employees say, nor just that mesh with him picking Omarissa [vanityfair.com] years ago to win The Apprentice (which also meant he would have to work with her).
He says all kinds of horribly racist things, advocates racists policies, but Trump does like brown people who do whatever he wants.
Trump is the most pro-gay GOP candidate [conservativereview.com] there has ever been, far better for the LGBT community than Hillary would have been.
This is true. His campaign was horribly bigoted, but not particular against gays.
As for women, well if Trump hates women so much why did he keep hiring them to lead his campaign [dilbert.com], including the last one that led him to victory?
I suppose it makes them easier to grab. Trump doesn't hate women, he just thinks its ok to physically attack them.
Sorry I'm having trouble seeing the Trump violence over Portland burning, and the fake protestors the DNC hired to mess up Trump rallies.
Clinton, Romney, McCain, Obama, every single candidate before Trump saw it as their duty to help tamp down on violence. Nice try on avoiding the issue. Crucially, the hired protesters did not themselves start any violence, but your use of "mess up" suggests you already knew that. Republicans do this to Democrats, too.
What a whiner. You had CNN broadcasting every speech from Donald, you got Fox News (no explanation necessary). Every news show in the nation spending more time on Clinton's email non-scandal than any other topic, including all substantive issues combined, with the FBI itself giving the final twist of the knife.
And people voted Republican because of the propaganda? I dare say they did. As our new pres would say: Sad. Very sad.
The movie works pretty well on that level. Certainly its world of endless war, relentless propaganda, soldiers as the clean shaven heroes we all look up to, leaders, cool looking leaders who have our best interest at heart, even if they have to ask others to make a sacrifice, looks familiar. It is missing the corporate angle.
Yes, and all the people who don't serve will be content with no power, and they won't turn into an overtaxed underclass boiling over with resentment and revolution. Why? Because Heinlein said so.
The book is crap. Somebody talented like Verhoeven doesn't need to read the whole thing to figure that out.
The idea that service is the only path to citizenship, is both wrong and backwards.
First, the military will fuck with your head if they think that will make you a better soldier. Second, they will propagandize you to the hilt if it will keep morale up.
Lastly, the world needs as many outlooks as possible. Diversity means strength. This is true in thought as well as genetics.
Heinlein's society is basically a military controlled utopia. If Fascism had worked like fascist thought it would, it would have turned out something like this. Because its fiction, Heinlein can portray everything turning out fine, but you don't have to believe it.
What happens when those who did not serve want political power nevertheless? What does the military do to stop them? Do we even need to pose this hypothetical? There are thousands and thousands of histories of countries run by a military backed minority.
Someone once said that Democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on what's for dinner. This is cruel, but at least the majority is satisfied. Heinlein is the same thing, but the sheep and one wolf don't get a vote.
The book doesn't seem racist to me. Maybe they mean that us-or-them attitude the book takes towards alien antagonists.
Real life is full of dip shit thieves, which is why Heinleins society (important parts of which have already been tried) will never work or even be a good idea.
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The Ed Wood of IF is Rybread Celsius, author of Acid Whiplash and other spectacular failures.
If Trump's opening gambit in the election was racist, would that make him a racist?
Don't waste your time. These guys think the Republican Congress is in the tank for Clinton, which is the only way they can understand why she wasn't charged with perjury.
They assume she was guilty of *something* and start from there.
He is a member of the elite, he's just an outcast. The elite recoiled in horror because they know him *personally*. All of the lies, sexual assaults, mob connections, corrupt deals, scams, they all knew about long before half of America dismissed them as slander.
The American media has become far too good at making the average Joe hate anyone who might be trying to help him. This causes them to flail about blindly. They become easy prey to con men.
There's a new political correctness. it's not ok to call a racist, misogynist fascist a racist misogynist fascist. His supporters won't like it! Even though for a lot of them, it's one of those three things they like about him.
Christ, you guys sound like the naive Obama supporters in 2008.
The president is not going to save you. He's not the messiah, he's not even a dictator. You're supposed to vote for the better person, the smart one, the one who knows what they're doing.
I'm the first to admit that Hilary isn't really smart enough or good enough to be a good president, but Trump isn't even close.
Because providing every citizen with a free government ID with a picture on it is, apparently, racist.
I submit that your grasp of the facts is typical of Trump voters everywhere.
A brownish guy from the Chicago named Gonazalez is a Mexican to these guys. A white guy from Mexico City named Schwartz is not. It's racism.
The horribleness of Trump is a fact, not an opinion.
You are correct. He's also smart enough not to repeal Obamacare.
Trump will be for it as soon as they change the name to Trump.
Fool! Don't question libertarian orthodoxy on Slashdot.
What they didn't do is yell "Trump's going to take away your Medicare". That's the surest way to win any election.
Keeping private is not "hiding". Are you "hiding" your phone number? No? Post it then.
I am hiding my phone number. Are you suggesting that because I'm hiding my phone number, it's ok for Trump to hide his taxes?
He clearly hates non-white
That's not what his black employees say, nor just that mesh with him picking Omarissa [vanityfair.com] years ago to win The Apprentice (which also meant he would have to work with her).
He says all kinds of horribly racist things, advocates racists policies, but Trump does like brown people who do whatever he wants.
Trump is the most pro-gay GOP candidate [conservativereview.com] there has ever been, far better for the LGBT community than Hillary would have been.
This is true. His campaign was horribly bigoted, but not particular against gays.
As for women, well if Trump hates women so much why did he keep hiring them to lead his campaign [dilbert.com], including the last one that led him to victory?
I suppose it makes them easier to grab. Trump doesn't hate women, he just thinks its ok to physically attack them.
Sorry I'm having trouble seeing the Trump violence over Portland burning, and the fake protestors the DNC hired to mess up Trump rallies.
Clinton, Romney, McCain, Obama, every single candidate before Trump saw it as their duty to help tamp down on violence. Nice try on avoiding the issue. Crucially, the hired protesters did not themselves start any violence, but your use of "mess up" suggests you already knew that. Republicans do this to Democrats, too.
What a whiner. You had CNN broadcasting every speech from Donald, you got Fox News (no explanation necessary). Every news show in the nation spending more time on Clinton's email non-scandal than any other topic, including all substantive issues combined, with the FBI itself giving the final twist of the knife.
And people voted Republican because of the propaganda? I dare say they did. As our new pres would say: Sad. Very sad.
" It was ok to call them racist, to call them sexist,"
Welcome to the new political correctness. It's not ok to call a racist a racist in Trumpland.
Not all the guns, not by a long shot.
The movie works pretty well on that level. Certainly its world of endless war, relentless propaganda, soldiers as the clean shaven heroes we all look up to, leaders, cool looking leaders who have our best interest at heart, even if they have to ask others to make a sacrifice, looks familiar. It is missing the corporate angle.
Yes, and all the people who don't serve will be content with no power, and they won't turn into an overtaxed underclass boiling over with resentment and revolution. Why? Because Heinlein said so.
You nailed it.
What would be the point?
The book is crap. Somebody talented like Verhoeven doesn't need to read the whole thing to figure that out.
The idea that service is the only path to citizenship, is both wrong and backwards.
First, the military will fuck with your head if they think that will make you a better soldier. Second, they will propagandize you to the hilt if it will keep morale up.
Lastly, the world needs as many outlooks as possible. Diversity means strength. This is true in thought as well as genetics.
Heinlein's society is basically a military controlled utopia. If Fascism had worked like fascist thought it would, it would have turned out something like this. Because its fiction, Heinlein can portray everything turning out fine, but you don't have to believe it.
What happens when those who did not serve want political power nevertheless? What does the military do to stop them? Do we even need to pose this hypothetical? There are thousands and thousands of histories of countries run by a military backed minority.
Someone once said that Democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on what's for dinner. This is cruel, but at least the majority is satisfied. Heinlein is the same thing, but the sheep and one wolf don't get a vote.
The book doesn't seem racist to me. Maybe they mean that us-or-them attitude the book takes towards alien antagonists.
Real life is full of dip shit thieves, which is why Heinleins society (important parts of which have already been tried) will never work or even be a good idea.