If you believe the conclusions of The Cathederal and The Bazaar -- that with enough eyes all bugs are shallow you would have to wonder why several of the large open source projects (the Linux 2.4 kernel and Mozilla come to mind), are always late. Yeah yeah, they aren't released until they are ready and there are no release dates, but in both cases the projects have taken much longer than the people running the projects anticipated. Most software projects end up running late becuase of two reasons: feature creep and bug smashing. Given that the 2.4 release has had a feature freeze for quite some time now, the question is... what's holding things back?
Are large open source projects lacking some sort of organizational tools needed to make things run more smoothly? Are they the victims of bad project management, such as it is? Is it becuase after you get above some number n, you fail to gain any more advantages by having more people looking at and working on the code?
I'd say unless you are completely ignorent of the world around you have a pretty good idea of what actions may cause future ramifications. Bork probably should have know that a high ranking federal judge shouldn't be renting pornography. If he didn't, he probably wasn't a very good candidate for the supreme court then, was he?
Ah, I see, becuase I disagree with the/. groupthink, I am a troll. Its a shame that a website that values "freedom" in software, doesn't extend this to freedom to disagree with the popular opinion.
While I disagree with the whole "information want to be free" meme, information does tend to spread, in unexpected ways. To think that corporations have some obligation to put up artifical boundries in an attempt to stop this is both foolish and naive.
It'll need to be tweaked, updated, maybe even entirely thrown out for a new system. Trust the wisdom of Strousoup(sp?) on this one - design the first implimentation to throw it away, you're going to do it atleast once anyway.
Actually, that's a quote from The Mythical Man Month, by, um, Burns, isn't it?
In addition, many IT jobs are ill-designed and boring, leading many employees to become dissatisfied and leave.'"
So what, they drop out of the IT field completely and go dig ditches or flip burgers at McDonalds?
Come on, even if there is lots of turnover (and there is lots of turnover), this doesn't affect the total labor pool for IT... other than a small amount of friction for people who are inbetween jobs.
After all, they aren't that different than the rules that apply in the offline world. The legality of an act shouldn't vary depending on if something happens offline or online, and enforcement should be the same way.
It's also been reported that the NSA requires U.S.-made communications satellites to be equipped with intercept devices that can be used to transmit copies of their traffic to the NSA for analysis
Good.... it would be irresponsible for things to be otherwise.
Actually, Hasbro only owns the rights to the old Atari software and such... Midway (I think) owned the rights to their arcade stuff. I think the remains of the old Atari corp (the people who were making the Jaguar) still owned the old hardware rights, but since they are gone, its dobtful you will ever hear anyone complaining about anything you do with Atari hardware.
If I understand it correctly, their choice to release the source code, was to expand the user base. How has this been going for them? What percentage of users actually use Netscape?
Lookie here at some nice historical browser statistics. Netscape / Mozilla has about 27% of the market. Netscape has around 45% of the market when Mozilla was opened. So you can see that this strategy, like most things associated with Mozilla, has been a failure.
Big ass TV. None of this 34 cm crap. Most geeks disdain TV publically, but are closet watchers. Example, ask who the Android is and why they identify with him. You'll get an answer from 99.99% of all True Geeks(tm).
Not to show my ignorence, but who is the Andriod? Marvin from HHGTTG?
Wow, 1 company. Tell you what, I'll start listing profitable companies releasing closed source software, you list companies that are profitable and open source or free and we will see who's list is longer...
"Hardware must be paid for, but software is something to share. Who cares if the people who worked on it get paid?" (He said this sarcasticly).
All you have to do is look at all these companies that have tried to make money on free or open source software to see that, still 25 years later, it just can't be done.
This doesn't make any sense: why would you go after this kid?
I know you all have some silly ideas, but there is this thing called holding people responsible for their actions. I know its been passe for the past 20 years or so, but it really isn't such a bad idea.
I for one would be incredibly entertained if they started going after individual Napster users for copyright violations...It would be great
Judge: Your defense, Mr. er, Eleet Haxor
Haxor: Information wants to be free! I'm stickin' it to the Man!
Judge: Interesting... (gavel slams) Guilty as Charged!
You're right - there is a section on copyright here. But that's funny - it seems to say that after 14 years, I do have the right to take other people's music without their permission
That's funny... my copy only says: To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited
Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings
and Discoveries;
I don't see anything about 14 years... and life of the author plus 70 certainly sounds limited to me.
I've never quite understood why the people who are generally decent and well off enough to fly, go nuts and embark on a drunken binge when they board a plane.
Its cause you get drunk faster at lower air pressures, and the air pressure in an airplane at 30,000 ft, is about like being at ~8,000 feet on the ground. So basically you drink what you are used to and get more kick...
That corporations cave in like a deck of cards whenever a few people start whining, bitching, and moaning. No one put a gun to these people's head and made them buy these people buy these products and they agreed to the price that they made the purchase for.
They may say that in the fine print, but it is still not illegal to have differentiated pricing for different customers.
Hell, I worked in a paint store for 4 years in college, and we had 5 or 6 different price schedules for the same item depending on who the customer was (retail, contractors, etc...) and we didn't have any fine print anywhere.
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So there aren't that many differences between OSS and CSS then? Then why bother with OSS?
If you believe the conclusions of The Cathederal and The Bazaar -- that with enough eyes all bugs are shallow you would have to wonder why several of the large open source projects (the Linux 2.4 kernel and Mozilla come to mind), are always late. Yeah yeah, they aren't released until they are ready and there are no release dates, but in both cases the projects have taken much longer than the people running the projects anticipated. Most software projects end up running late becuase of two reasons: feature creep and bug smashing. Given that the 2.4 release has had a feature freeze for quite some time now, the question is... what's holding things back?
Are large open source projects lacking some sort of organizational tools needed to make things run more smoothly? Are they the victims of bad project management, such as it is? Is it becuase after you get above some number n, you fail to gain any more advantages by having more people looking at and working on the code?
I'd say unless you are completely ignorent of the world around you have a pretty good idea of what actions may cause future ramifications. Bork probably should have know that a high ranking federal judge shouldn't be renting pornography. If he didn't, he probably wasn't a very good candidate for the supreme court then, was he?
/. groupthink, I am a troll. Its a shame that a website that values "freedom" in software, doesn't extend this to freedom to disagree with the popular opinion.
Ah, I see, becuase I disagree with the
While I disagree with the whole "information want to be free" meme, information does tend to spread, in unexpected ways. To think that corporations have some obligation to put up artifical boundries in an attempt to stop this is both foolish and naive.
Maybe you shouldn't do things that you would later be ashamed of, instead of worrying about privacy so much.
It'll need to be tweaked, updated, maybe even entirely thrown out for a new system. Trust the wisdom of Strousoup(sp?) on this one - design the first implimentation to throw it away, you're going to do it atleast once anyway.
Actually, that's a quote from The Mythical Man Month, by, um, Burns, isn't it?
...remember this next time you have to negotiate your salary or whatever.....
In addition, many IT jobs are ill-designed and boring, leading many employees to become dissatisfied and leave.'"
So what, they drop out of the IT field completely and go dig ditches or flip burgers at McDonalds?
Come on, even if there is lots of turnover (and there is lots of turnover), this doesn't affect the total labor pool for IT... other than a small amount of friction for people who are inbetween jobs.
After all, they aren't that different than the rules that apply in the offline world. The legality of an act shouldn't vary depending on if something happens offline or online, and enforcement should be the same way.
I'm not saying that the NSA and the DOJ are the same thing. I'm not saying they aren't, either.
So you aren't saying anything are you?
It's also been reported that the NSA requires U.S.-made communications satellites to be equipped with intercept devices that can be used to transmit copies of their traffic to the NSA for analysis
Good.... it would be irresponsible for things to be otherwise.
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Should't that be (if (drunkp (moderator))....
Actually, Hasbro only owns the rights to the old Atari software and such... Midway (I think) owned the rights to their arcade stuff. I think the remains of the old Atari corp (the people who were making the Jaguar) still owned the old hardware rights, but since they are gone, its dobtful you will ever hear anyone complaining about anything you do with Atari hardware.
Yep, ad hominem attacks are always the best when facts start to get in your way. You've learned the Open Source playbook very well.
If I understand it correctly, their choice to release the source code, was to expand the user base. How has this been going for them? What percentage of users actually use Netscape?
Lookie here at some nice historical browser statistics. Netscape / Mozilla has about 27% of the market. Netscape has around 45% of the market when Mozilla was opened. So you can see that this strategy, like most things associated with Mozilla, has been a failure.
Fixing bugs really sucks!
That's why most programmers like to be paid for their work.
Big ass TV. None of this 34 cm crap. Most geeks disdain TV publically, but are closet watchers. Example, ask who the Android is and why they identify with him. You'll get an answer from 99.99% of all True Geeks(tm).
Not to show my ignorence, but who is the Andriod? Marvin from HHGTTG?
Wow, 1 company. Tell you what, I'll start listing profitable companies releasing closed source software, you list companies that are profitable and open source or free and we will see who's list is longer...
"Hardware must be paid for, but software is something to share. Who cares if the people who worked on it get paid?" (He said this sarcasticly).
All you have to do is look at all these companies that have tried to make money on free or open source software to see that, still 25 years later, it just can't be done.
This doesn't make any sense: why would you go after this kid?
I know you all have some silly ideas, but there is this thing called holding people responsible for their actions. I know its been passe for the past 20 years or so, but it really isn't such a bad idea.
I for one would be incredibly entertained if they started going after individual Napster users for copyright violations...It would be great
Judge: Your defense, Mr. er, Eleet Haxor
Haxor: Information wants to be free! I'm stickin' it to the Man!
Judge: Interesting... (gavel slams) Guilty as Charged!
You're right - there is a section on copyright here. But that's funny - it seems to say that after 14 years, I do have the right to take other people's music without their permission
That's funny... my copy only says: To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited
Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings
and Discoveries;
I don't see anything about 14 years... and life of the author plus 70 certainly sounds limited to me.
Nice bit of lying though....
I've never quite understood why the people who are generally decent and well off enough to fly, go nuts and embark on a drunken binge when they board a plane.
Its cause you get drunk faster at lower air pressures, and the air pressure in an airplane at 30,000 ft, is about like being at ~8,000 feet on the ground. So basically you drink what you are used to and get more kick...
Fighting to be the top dog of a market that you can't make any money in.
Who-hoo! I'm #1! I'm losing money the fastest!
Why the hell should AOL pay for all those IM servers just to have other companies freeload off of them?
That corporations cave in like a deck of cards whenever a few people start whining, bitching, and moaning. No one put a gun to these people's head and made them buy these people buy these products and they agreed to the price that they made the purchase for.
They may say that in the fine print, but it is still not illegal to have differentiated pricing for different customers.
Hell, I worked in a paint store for 4 years in college, and we had 5 or 6 different price schedules for the same item depending on who the customer was (retail, contractors, etc...) and we didn't have any fine print anywhere.