Hey, I'm glad someone caught the satire. I know my argument isn't techically sound, and it wasn't meant to be, it was just a response to that other guys "In my day we had crappy old TV and it was great" post.
One of the problems with Slashdot as it stands is this moderation system coupled with people's viewing preferences leads to problems like this. A response to a post gets moderated to say a 5 (not that this post particularly deserved it, but hey, I'll take the extra karma), then people see it before the post it is refering too.
Thats why flat mode -1 is the only way to go baby!
The FCC's mandate to oust black and white from the airwaves so soon is just a bonehead idea in my opinion. Color TV is an upper class toy than something beneficial to everyone. Look for example at the prices of the color TVs, they are thousands of dollars, where the black and white 25" one I have was only a few hundred and I rather like its picture quality. As for color broadcasting, why would cable companies want to try to convert? Color over coax would be difficult at best due to bandwidth problems. Cable companies would have to overhaul their whole coax network just to match the bandwidth. Even if a lot of people could afford color TVs and service, how many people does the FCC think would buy it? Cable on a good day only comes through to 55% or so of the country, what happens to everyone who can't afford color TV? Oh yeah, broadcasters CAN as an option broadcast balck and white...does that seem like a bullshit plan to anyone else?
Well, this was the guy who managed to sell $55 Million in bonds based on the projected earnings from royalties to his songs, so I guess starting a bank isn't that much further afield.
... don't you read ESR's article about Netscape's then possible open-sourcing of Navigator?
The whole point of the "bazaar" method of development is to attempt to defeat the "mithical man-month" of development by collecting contributions from as many developers as possible
And the Mozilla fisaco from that point forward shows that everything taught in The Mythical Man Month holds true, even for open source projects.
..damn who wants to read this crap? If this guy was so pissed, he should have quit and gotten a better job. Instead we are supposed to read this drivel? What, am I supposed to feel sorry for him? Is it supposed to be funny? Am I missing something?
Ob Millennium: besides the next millennium doesn't start until Jan 1, 2001.
Then again, I suspect that what Macchiavelli said of States can be equally applied to Corporations. They are not "moral" or "principled" in the sense that a man can be
You almost say that like its a bad thing or something.
Huh? Banks are slow and monolithic because they use a 40 year old programming language, but everyone on/. gets excited about the re-implementation of a 30 year old operating system?
Seeing a story like this makes me wonder what the time lapse is going to be between the time a standard is issued and the time it can actually spead into wide usage. Look at PNG, which has been around for around 4 years now. Sure, some people can view PNGs in their browsers, but support is still imcomplete in most implementations despite its both technical and legal improvements on the ol' GIF format. Its still not to the point where a mainstream web site would want to use it for fear of shutting out some users.
Lets see here you need updated graphics programs (I'm sure GIMP and Photoshop, et al can have this fairly quickly). You need updated browsers (should be rather easy for Netscape/Mozilla, and technically not to difficult for IE, depending on whenever MS wants to get around to it). I'm still thinking 2 to 3 years before you seed wide usage, which is unfortunate becuase the big advantage is for those of us still stuck using lousy POTS lines to connect to the internet. Ironically, those who would get the biggest benefit from this (like be on this on-a-good-day 28.8 line) will probably have broadband access of one sort or another by the time it becomes widely used for the web at least.
Then again, the whole 28.8 to 56K changeover seemed to happen rather quickly and both required upgrading your hardware, and a dueling set of standards....
I've had great luck with WORA with servlets
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Although there are certain well known problems with using Java on the client side (speed issues, GUI issues, etc...) the company where I am am doing some work at currently has had some great success doing work with Java servlets. We were able to take some code written and tested on WinNT and Solaris and get it up and running on a Linux box in less than two hours from the time we took a completely bare box, install the OS, and have the app up and running, with absolutely no changes to the code. I don't care how portable your ANSI C code is, but that is almost unheard of.
Now if only we had a spare IBM mainframe sitting around to try it under that environment...
Man, I've got to write this date down in my diary. Slashdot complaining about someone else's accuracy in reporting. Next thing there will be a story about incorrect grammer or spelling on some site.
I can remember seeing my first Bond flick in a theatre (Octopussy I belive, so this will date me pretty well.) I remember what an impression Q made on me during that film. I mean Bond can go out and risk his life and all that, but Q had the best job. Make cool gadgets, and being during the cold war, you can be sure he didn't have to worry about budgetary constraints. Add to this his disdain for Bond who invariably loses or breaks his cool gadgets and you can see the parallels with the hard working coders who must eventually release their much slaved over code and give it to ungrateful users who will then break it....
Hell, he even helps have the day in that movie and is swarmed over by a bunch of numble young circus performers....
That does sound like a really cool application for LISP, and one where it does make a lot of sense. Now that the ol' memory has been engaged, I have been thinking back to a programming languages class I took a long time ago. We ended up writing bits of a compiler in both C and LISP and I had forgotten how much easier it was to do a number of operations (like tokenizing and parsing) in LISP than in C. (Although part of me still thinks this may be because programming in LISP via EMACS is one of the most solid, easy to use, and just well integrated programming envrionments ever put together. Hmm... I wonder if RMS did that on purpose:) )
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That was what I thought. Just wanted some confirmation. It been a while since I've done any lisp programming, and I have to say, EMACS almost makes it tolerable, but I have yet to see anyone use it outside an academic environment.
Wow, a rational post on/. This must be a first. I agree, Amazon has great customer service, excellent selection, good prices, (and I don't have to pay and damn taxes on my transaction), what more could I want.
Some people get all caught up on these patent issues or whatever, but thankfully those people are in the minority. This is the way the game is played folks, and whining about it doesn't change things.
What we need now is innovation. Speed could only take us so far, now we need a brilliant flash of insight into making computing different... Better. What's the next step?
Great question, easy answer: 5 words -- ubiquitous wireless broadband internet access.
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Hey, I'm glad someone caught the satire. I know my argument isn't techically sound, and it wasn't meant to be, it was just a response to that other guys "In my day we had crappy old TV and it was great" post.
One of the problems with Slashdot as it stands is this moderation system coupled with people's viewing preferences leads to problems like this. A response to a post gets moderated to say a 5 (not that this post particularly deserved it, but hey, I'll take the extra karma), then people see it before the post it is refering too.
Thats why flat mode -1 is the only way to go baby!
Guess I forgot the SARCASM tag again....
The FCC's mandate to oust black and white from the airwaves so soon is just a bonehead idea in my opinion. Color TV is an upper class toy than something beneficial to everyone. Look for example at the prices of the color TVs, they are thousands of dollars, where the black and white 25" one I have was only a few hundred and I rather like its picture quality. As for color broadcasting, why would cable companies want to try to convert? Color over coax would be difficult at best due to bandwidth problems. Cable companies would have to overhaul their whole coax network just to match the bandwidth. Even if a lot of people could afford color TVs and service, how many people does the FCC think would buy it? Cable on a good day only comes through to 55% or so of the country, what happens to everyone who can't afford color TV? Oh yeah, broadcasters CAN as an option broadcast balck and white...does that seem like a bullshit plan to anyone else?
Well, I'm sure you get the point...
I serious doubt their BIOS is open sourced or GPL'd or whatever...
Well, I'm not sure what you are talking about, but here are the details on the Bowie bonds offering.
Mr Showbiz story on Bowie Bonds. (No, I don't normally read Mr. Showbiz).
Well, this was the guy who managed to sell $55 Million in bonds based on the projected earnings from royalties to his songs, so I guess starting a bank isn't that much further afield.
... don't you read ESR's article about Netscape's then possible open-sourcing of Navigator?
The whole point of the "bazaar" method of development is to attempt to defeat the "mithical man-month" of development by collecting contributions from as many developers as possible
And the Mozilla fisaco from that point forward shows that everything taught in The Mythical Man Month holds true, even for open source projects.
..damn who wants to read this crap? If this guy was so pissed, he should have quit and gotten a better job. Instead we are supposed to read this drivel? What, am I supposed to feel sorry for him? Is it supposed to be funny? Am I missing something?
Ob Millennium: besides the next millennium doesn't start until Jan 1, 2001.
Then again, I suspect that what Macchiavelli said of States can be equally applied to Corporations. They are not "moral" or "principled" in the sense that a man can be
You almost say that like its a bad thing or something.
How many are still using cobol?
/. gets excited about the re-implementation of a 30 year old operating system?
Huh? Banks are slow and monolithic because they use a 40 year old programming language, but everyone on
Seeing a story like this makes me wonder what the time lapse is going to be between the time a standard is issued and the time it can actually spead into wide usage. Look at PNG, which has been around for around 4 years now. Sure, some people can view PNGs in their browsers, but support is still imcomplete in most implementations despite its both technical and legal improvements on the ol' GIF format. Its still not to the point where a mainstream web site would want to use it for fear of shutting out some users.
Lets see here you need updated graphics programs (I'm sure GIMP and Photoshop, et al can have this fairly quickly). You need updated browsers (should be rather easy for Netscape/Mozilla, and technically not to difficult for IE, depending on whenever MS wants to get around to it). I'm still thinking 2 to 3 years before you seed wide usage, which is unfortunate becuase the big advantage is for those of us still stuck using lousy POTS lines to connect to the internet. Ironically, those who would get the biggest benefit from this (like be on this on-a-good-day 28.8 line) will probably have broadband access of one sort or another by the time it becomes widely used for the web at least.
Then again, the whole 28.8 to 56K changeover seemed to happen rather quickly and both required upgrading your hardware, and a dueling set of standards....
Although there are certain well known problems with using Java on the client side (speed issues, GUI issues, etc...) the company where I am am doing some work at currently has had some great success doing work with Java servlets. We were able to take some code written and tested on WinNT and Solaris and get it up and running on a Linux box in less than two hours from the time we took a completely bare box, install the OS, and have the app up and running, with absolutely no changes to the code. I don't care how portable your ANSI C code is, but that is almost unheard of.
Now if only we had a spare IBM mainframe sitting around to try it under that environment...
Yeah, dumb ass, that's why the trash bag industry keeps going bankrupt.
Someone obviously did a little too much Sherlock Holmes work
Damn you Moriarity!
while guzzling TAB and VODKA out of my VINTAGE BOBA FETT SLURPY CUP!!!
Sorry. That last bit was uncalled for. I apologize.
Yeah man, don't be dissin' Boba Fett.
Man, I've got to write this date down in my diary. Slashdot complaining about someone else's accuracy in reporting. Next thing there will be a story about incorrect grammer or spelling on some site.
This book is available at Amazon for $20.97, instead of the $29.99 Fatbrain wants for it.
If you are so into the whole patent thing, well go ahead and pay more I guess. I just saved 8 bucks, myself.
Let's see here, Compaq is already pushing...
Windows (98/NT)
Digital UNIX / Tru64 UNIX or whatever its called this week
Open VMS
Linux to a certain (small extent)
Yes, this is what Compaq needs to shoot them back to profitability, another damn operating system to support.
I can remember seeing my first Bond flick in a theatre (Octopussy I belive, so this will date me pretty well.) I remember what an impression Q made on me during that film. I mean Bond can go out and risk his life and all that, but Q had the best job. Make cool gadgets, and being during the cold war, you can be sure he didn't have to worry about budgetary constraints. Add to this his disdain for Bond who invariably loses or breaks his cool gadgets and you can see the parallels with the hard working coders who must eventually release their much slaved over code and give it to ungrateful users who will then break it....
Hell, he even helps have the day in that movie and is swarmed over by a bunch of numble young circus performers....
That does sound like a really cool application for LISP, and one where it does make a lot of sense. Now that the ol' memory has been engaged, I have been thinking back to a programming languages class I took a long time ago. We ended up writing bits of a compiler in both C and LISP and I had forgotten how much easier it was to do a number of operations (like tokenizing and parsing) in LISP than in C. (Although part of me still thinks this may be because programming in LISP via EMACS is one of the most solid, easy to use, and just well integrated programming envrionments ever put together. Hmm... I wonder if RMS did that on purpose :) )
That was what I thought. Just wanted some confirmation. It been a while since I've done any lisp programming, and I have to say, EMACS almost makes it tolerable, but I have yet to see anyone use it outside an academic environment.
Wow, a rational post on /. This must be a first. I agree, Amazon has great customer service, excellent selection, good prices, (and I don't have to pay and damn taxes on my transaction), what more could I want.
Some people get all caught up on these patent issues or whatever, but thankfully those people are in the minority. This is the way the game is played folks, and whining about it doesn't change things.
Good job Jeff. Keep up the good work.
Amazon is nothing more than a web interface to an inventory control system, that may be spread over numerous warehouses.
Well, that with a billing/shipping function, and a bit of marketing.
I wish he would quit saying things like this though: LISP is the most powerful programming language.
Anybody have any examples of problems that can be solved in LISP and no other language? Or is this just standard RMS hyperbole?
What we need now is innovation. Speed could only take us so far, now we need a brilliant flash of insight into making computing different... Better. What's the next step?
Great question, easy answer: 5 words -- ubiquitous wireless broadband internet access.