Because the process is the same whether a computer or a person does it. If everyone is buying Gucci shoes, and you tell a customer that Gucci shoes are popular, why is involving a computer in the process "novel" when the process is exactly the same? Gucci_counter++; if Gucci_counter>popularity_threshhold then say "Gucci is popular, buy now!"
If the computer did something DIFFERENT then clearly something novel would be taking place. But because everyone who buys a PSP later buys a memory stick, you tell your next customer that most people buy a memory stick with their PSP, and they should too. But should a computer tell them this, based on the EXACT SAME PROCESS, they better be shelling out the big bucks to Amazon!
Since it's apparent that you don't understand how it works, I'll let you know that blocks that aren't requested don't propagate and are eventually dropped. I can run a freenet node fully content in the knowlege that unless the billion people in China are suddenly all pedophiles, the Chinese blocks are statistically more likely to exist than the child porn blocks.
So, what Chinese Blog have you hosted recently? What's that? You're not doing your part to clean freenet of child porn?
First off OOL is a totally different service than this so why are you even bringing it up?
I don't live in an OOL area, but pulling up the optimumonline website, I see that its run by CableVision. Do you have any reason to believe that this CableVision network will behave in a significantly different fashion?
I strongly suggest you look for the shorts he has been in.
I can see the ebay auctions now!
"LQQK! Like new! Wil Wheaton's old shorts!" "W0W! Wil Wheaton's shorts, cleaned!" "RARE! Shorts worn by Wil Wheaton at least three times!" and so on;)
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Who are these people who are saying "I'd pay, but I just don't know if this Stephen King fellow has what it takes to finish a book."?
The ones who were right, obviously.
It wasn't about whether King would just call it quits for no reason, it was over whether someone would pay $1 for the next chapter, only to find out that King was a dollar short, and called it quits.
That aside, at the time it was an almost unheard of idea if you weren't one of the astute intarweb users who had heard of "micropayments". It certainly wasn't something the masses of people King's print books typically reach would have even thought about.
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The problem with the pay-up-front model is that if you take the cash up front, you'll get people who refuse to pay until they know for sure that they'll get something. If you try going on pledges to pay later, you'll run into empty promises.
Not only that, but if you're trying to warez the product, you're pretty much relying on organized crime of some form... it's one thing to go buy a game and put an ISO of it on an FTP site, another entirely to buy 50,000 copies of a chapter so you can put that chapter on an FTP site and still guarantee the next chapter will show up.
Presumably, as the law distinguishes between journalists and non-journalists, they have some mechanism to distinguish between the two.
"I know it when I see it"
I'd be intrigued to see how they claim that boasting about vandalism constitutes journalism.
It's not, it's some stupid kid spouting their mouth off, but let's be honest here, that's not the issue. The issue is that they took the whole damn server! When all of the information of interest could be obtained through logs, through monitoring internet traffic upstream somewhere, or dozens of other ways that did not involve removing the server, it's clear that this is an action that is specifically targeted at punishing Indymedia, not the vandal.
And inside the USA, the Postal Service is an excellent example, and unlike the BBC, the USPS doesn't even go around scanning houses to make sure you've paid up on your licenses.
In Houston where I live, I can get a small 1 bedroom apartment for less than $500/mo (one at random, sorry about the flash). Just because a city is "poor" doesn't mean it has low land values.
No, more likely he invested and got lucky. Not exactly a stellar example to cite when you're talking about "unrealistic expectations of things that are supposed to be handed to you."
God, I've been listening to this argument since the 1970's, when "stagflation" was leading the U.S. to the path of ruin. At that time, Japan was a true economic miracle and everyone was complaining about all of "our" jobs going to Japan.
And now we buy our cars from Japanese companies that build them here in the US to save on shipping charges, while GM struggles to survive. Not sure whether having the jobs or the companies is better in the long run.
It is not unusual for a final assembled product to have parts made on three or four different continents. How will the "local" suppliers build the object when they have to buy the parts from another hemisphere?
The same way we do, duh. Or do American companies have an exclusive contract with the Tooth Fairy to bring the parts to the US when an American company assembles things from parts made in 4 continents?
The theory is pretty sound though. Like I mentioned above, local assembly and sales work just fine for Japanese companies selling to Americans. Patent law will work where IP is strong, but expect China to continue to produce knockoffs.
I think there will be an economic balance of sorts, when cost of living in India increases and so does their purchasing power, at which point they _will_ have enough buying power.
There are a billion people in India. To make the math easy, there are about 500k people in the US. Assuming that resources and buying power is a fixed amount that can be easily transferred without loss and that quality of life is directly proportional to your available resources and buying power, the quality of life in the US will be reduced 66% in order to meet the rising quality of life in India at 33%.
The pay of any job is determined by the value it brings to the business. It is quite surprising, but most businesses do not like to pay more for an employee than the employee adds to the business.
Thats funny, the guy in the other thread about millionaire companies said that pay has nothing to do with the value you bring to the business. And this is the real truth, just look at the guy who invented the CD whining because he got nothing, or the Japanese guy who sued his company claiming he should receive "fair compensation" for the value of his work. Wonder how much that recently-dead guy who co-invented the IC got, other than the Nobel Prize. How many billions of dollars of electronics will be sold this year across the world?
You're right about $30-$50k being livable, though. Unless you live in the silicon valley or some other part of the country where the real estate cabal is artificially holding prices high to make sure they can sell at a profit, you can probably afford to own a small but nice house in a neighborhood that doesn't require barbed wire. You will probably have to commute to work though.
the price paid to the Indians is taken away from GDP.
Wouldn't that be a Net Domestic Product then? Or am I just being confused by accounting terms;)
The US does have key skills in terms of business organization, marketing, distribution, sales, etc.
Given the number of immigrants that come to the US legally and start successful, even if small, companies, I wouldn't go so far as to say that Americans have some sort of monopoly on the ability to make companies go.
Then why does the US GDP continue to grow, if we are less able to provide goods or services?
Why did Enron go bankrupt when it's earning reports were so good? Perhaps because the numbers reported had little to do with reality.
If a group of Indian programmers writes Word 2006 which is then presented as Microsoft's product, is it counted as part of America's GDP?
Certainly the US consumer is already seeing trillions of dollars of savings from imported products.
Wow, you're right! I just walked into Wal-Mart and all the cheap plastic crap was being sold for the 30 cents it cost to make it and ship it here from China!
As long as we keep our economy free of over-regulation, we will be OK.
The US government can't even obey its own *AFTA treaties. You expect the world governments to not try and cash in?
Because we're facing false globalism. Let me know when I can be a multinational human being. Until then, I'm an American and it's highly unlikely that I could change that even if I wanted to. We're just seeing companies flee to places that are cheaper and then calling it "globalization" to make people feel warm and fuzzy.
and in the long run, capitalism SHOULD (unless someone screws it up) raise everyone's standards up. Even Ethiopia, so that everyone can have 5 weeks vacation, and 3 hour lunches.
In the long run we will all be dead.
There are billions of people out there that will have to be individually raised up out of their mudholes, all while the billion or so first-worlders get chopped off at the knees. And don't forget, the sheiks and princes and warlords will be sure to take THEIR cut, so they'll have to make a second pass through the first world to run us through at the hip before our ex-wealth starts reaching the peasantry.
You can believe that by the time the standards of life do meet, we'll all be living in the same slime and toxic muck that Chinese scavengers pick through in their junkyards. Clean water? Don't count on it. I'd also suggest a good respirator mask and cartridges too. If you're American, don't plan on living too long, the US already has one of the lowest life expectancies in the developed world, as it un-develops, expect it to drop further.
While I don't agree with off-shoring, consider that many of the jobs that get off-shored are jobs that Americans either want too much pay/benefits for, or are jobs that are "below" them due to the scheduled_hours/tasks.
No matter how many times this gets repeated, it's not going to come true.
All you have to do is look at EA to see how low people will go to work in their field.
I see 7 hits for "perl" under $30k. 76 under $50k.
Did I blink or something and companies suddenly quit using Perl? I get 9 hits for J2EE under $30k. 45 under $50k.
Obviously the future lies with the latest and greatest languages. C# has a whopping 85 entries under $50k. 5 under $30k.
So tell me, what do I need to search for to pull up the 14,000 jobs that IBM has available? Surely I can move in with my parents and give up saving for the future and make myself competitive for one of these positions, right?
In a more educated world, the RIGHT thing to do would be to establish private/public keys for each person. Then you NEVER give the private key out, unless you're in court and need to conclusively prove you're you beyond a shadow of a doubt, and then they issue you a new one. For anything lesser than that, you give out your public key, and use your private key for signing correspondence to identify yourself.
Can't happen though. In the past few decades, the world has been dumbed down to the lowest common denominator, and anything to be adopted would have to resist stupid people giving the door to door "salesguy" their secret ID.
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Because the process is the same whether a computer or a person does it. If everyone is buying Gucci shoes, and you tell a customer that Gucci shoes are popular, why is involving a computer in the process "novel" when the process is exactly the same? Gucci_counter++; if Gucci_counter>popularity_threshhold then say "Gucci is popular, buy now!"
If the computer did something DIFFERENT then clearly something novel would be taking place. But because everyone who buys a PSP later buys a memory stick, you tell your next customer that most people buy a memory stick with their PSP, and they should too. But should a computer tell them this, based on the EXACT SAME PROCESS, they better be shelling out the big bucks to Amazon!
Those are some pretty big and mighty words there.
Since it's apparent that you don't understand how it works, I'll let you know that blocks that aren't requested don't propagate and are eventually dropped. I can run a freenet node fully content in the knowlege that unless the billion people in China are suddenly all pedophiles, the Chinese blocks are statistically more likely to exist than the child porn blocks.
So, what Chinese Blog have you hosted recently? What's that? You're not doing your part to clean freenet of child porn?
MMMMhmmmm...
First off OOL is a totally different service than this so why are you even bringing it up?
I don't live in an OOL area, but pulling up the optimumonline website, I see that its run by CableVision. Do you have any reason to believe that this CableVision network will behave in a significantly different fashion?
Such devices already exist, although I think they only provide one line at a time (for some reason).
Expense.
This was the first advertised hit on google, but at this store you're looking at $10,000 for a one-line 81 character display.
For 25 lines, I'd rather just hire someone to read my screen for me.
I strongly suggest you look for the shorts he has been in.
;)
I can see the ebay auctions now!
"LQQK! Like new! Wil Wheaton's old shorts!"
"W0W! Wil Wheaton's shorts, cleaned!"
"RARE! Shorts worn by Wil Wheaton at least three times!"
and so on
Who are these people who are saying "I'd pay, but I just don't know if this Stephen King fellow has what it takes to finish a book."?
The ones who were right, obviously.
It wasn't about whether King would just call it quits for no reason, it was over whether someone would pay $1 for the next chapter, only to find out that King was a dollar short, and called it quits.
That aside, at the time it was an almost unheard of idea if you weren't one of the astute intarweb users who had heard of "micropayments". It certainly wasn't something the masses of people King's print books typically reach would have even thought about.
The problem with the pay-up-front model is that if you take the cash up front, you'll get people who refuse to pay until they know for sure that they'll get something. If you try going on pledges to pay later, you'll run into empty promises.
Not only that, but if you're trying to warez the product, you're pretty much relying on organized crime of some form... it's one thing to go buy a game and put an ISO of it on an FTP site, another entirely to buy 50,000 copies of a chapter so you can put that chapter on an FTP site and still guarantee the next chapter will show up.
Presumably, as the law distinguishes between journalists and non-journalists, they have some mechanism to distinguish between the two.
"I know it when I see it"
I'd be intrigued to see how they claim that boasting about vandalism constitutes journalism.
It's not, it's some stupid kid spouting their mouth off, but let's be honest here, that's not the issue. The issue is that they took the whole damn server! When all of the information of interest could be obtained through logs, through monitoring internet traffic upstream somewhere, or dozens of other ways that did not involve removing the server, it's clear that this is an action that is specifically targeted at punishing Indymedia, not the vandal.
And inside the USA, the Postal Service is an excellent example, and unlike the BBC, the USPS doesn't even go around scanning houses to make sure you've paid up on your licenses.
In Houston where I live, I can get a small 1 bedroom apartment for less than $500/mo (one at random, sorry about the flash). Just because a city is "poor" doesn't mean it has low land values.
Got a better one?
How did he do it? HE SAVED.
No, more likely he invested and got lucky. Not exactly a stellar example to cite when you're talking about "unrealistic expectations of things that are supposed to be handed to you."
God, I've been listening to this argument since the 1970's, when "stagflation" was leading the U.S. to the path of ruin. At that time, Japan was a true economic miracle and everyone was complaining about all of "our" jobs going to Japan.
And now we buy our cars from Japanese companies that build them here in the US to save on shipping charges, while GM struggles to survive. Not sure whether having the jobs or the companies is better in the long run.
It is not unusual for a final assembled product to have parts made on three or four different continents. How will the "local" suppliers build the object when they have to buy the parts from another hemisphere?
The same way we do, duh. Or do American companies have an exclusive contract with the Tooth Fairy to bring the parts to the US when an American company assembles things from parts made in 4 continents?
The theory is pretty sound though. Like I mentioned above, local assembly and sales work just fine for Japanese companies selling to Americans. Patent law will work where IP is strong, but expect China to continue to produce knockoffs.
I think there will be an economic balance of sorts, when cost of living in India increases and so does their purchasing power, at which point they _will_ have enough buying power.
There are a billion people in India. To make the math easy, there are about 500k people in the US. Assuming that resources and buying power is a fixed amount that can be easily transferred without loss and that quality of life is directly proportional to your available resources and buying power, the quality of life in the US will be reduced 66% in order to meet the rising quality of life in India at 33%.
The pay of any job is determined by the value it brings to the business. It is quite surprising, but most businesses do not like to pay more for an employee than the employee adds to the business.
Thats funny, the guy in the other thread about millionaire companies said that pay has nothing to do with the value you bring to the business. And this is the real truth, just look at the guy who invented the CD whining because he got nothing, or the Japanese guy who sued his company claiming he should receive "fair compensation" for the value of his work. Wonder how much that recently-dead guy who co-invented the IC got, other than the Nobel Prize. How many billions of dollars of electronics will be sold this year across the world?
You're right about $30-$50k being livable, though. Unless you live in the silicon valley or some other part of the country where the real estate cabal is artificially holding prices high to make sure they can sell at a profit, you can probably afford to own a small but nice house in a neighborhood that doesn't require barbed wire. You will probably have to commute to work though.
the price paid to the Indians is taken away from GDP.
;)
Wouldn't that be a Net Domestic Product then? Or am I just being confused by accounting terms
The US does have key skills in terms of business organization, marketing, distribution, sales, etc.
Given the number of immigrants that come to the US legally and start successful, even if small, companies, I wouldn't go so far as to say that Americans have some sort of monopoly on the ability to make companies go.
Then why does the US GDP continue to grow, if we are less able to provide goods or services?
Why did Enron go bankrupt when it's earning reports were so good? Perhaps because the numbers reported had little to do with reality.
If a group of Indian programmers writes Word 2006 which is then presented as Microsoft's product, is it counted as part of America's GDP?
Certainly the US consumer is already seeing trillions of dollars of savings from imported products.
Wow, you're right! I just walked into Wal-Mart and all the cheap plastic crap was being sold for the 30 cents it cost to make it and ship it here from China!
As long as we keep our economy free of over-regulation, we will be OK.
The US government can't even obey its own *AFTA treaties. You expect the world governments to not try and cash in?
why is nationalism so important in this debate?
Because we're facing false globalism. Let me know when I can be a multinational human being. Until then, I'm an American and it's highly unlikely that I could change that even if I wanted to. We're just seeing companies flee to places that are cheaper and then calling it "globalization" to make people feel warm and fuzzy.
I'm not sure theres enough wal-marts out there to employ 95% of the 80 year olds as greeters.
and in the long run, capitalism SHOULD (unless someone screws it up) raise everyone's standards up. Even Ethiopia, so that everyone can have 5 weeks vacation, and 3 hour lunches.
In the long run we will all be dead.
There are billions of people out there that will have to be individually raised up out of their mudholes, all while the billion or so first-worlders get chopped off at the knees. And don't forget, the sheiks and princes and warlords will be sure to take THEIR cut, so they'll have to make a second pass through the first world to run us through at the hip before our ex-wealth starts reaching the peasantry.
You can believe that by the time the standards of life do meet, we'll all be living in the same slime and toxic muck that Chinese scavengers pick through in their junkyards. Clean water? Don't count on it. I'd also suggest a good respirator mask and cartridges too. If you're American, don't plan on living too long, the US already has one of the lowest life expectancies in the developed world, as it un-develops, expect it to drop further.
While I don't agree with off-shoring, consider that many of the jobs that get off-shored are jobs that Americans either want too much pay/benefits for, or are jobs that are "below" them due to the scheduled_hours/tasks.
No matter how many times this gets repeated, it's not going to come true.
All you have to do is look at EA to see how low people will go to work in their field.
Hilarity.
I see 7 hits for "perl" under $30k. 76 under $50k.
Did I blink or something and companies suddenly quit using Perl? I get 9 hits for J2EE under $30k. 45 under $50k.
Obviously the future lies with the latest and greatest languages. C# has a whopping 85 entries under $50k. 5 under $30k.
So tell me, what do I need to search for to pull up the 14,000 jobs that IBM has available? Surely I can move in with my parents and give up saving for the future and make myself competitive for one of these positions, right?
In a more educated world, the RIGHT thing to do would be to establish private/public keys for each person. Then you NEVER give the private key out, unless you're in court and need to conclusively prove you're you beyond a shadow of a doubt, and then they issue you a new one. For anything lesser than that, you give out your public key, and use your private key for signing correspondence to identify yourself.
Can't happen though. In the past few decades, the world has been dumbed down to the lowest common denominator, and anything to be adopted would have to resist stupid people giving the door to door "salesguy" their secret ID.
"If you're not a liberal at 20, you have no heart. If you're not a conservative at 40, you have no head"
And if you're a liberal again by 80, you need to change your depends?
Three Republican-appointed judges and both Democrat-appointed judges voted for.
What exactly are we supposed to be seeing?