When I started in IT 5 years ago, about half of my group frequently socialized. I was the youngest of the group at 21, and I think the oldest in the "clique" was about 28. We'd go to lunch every day, have parties on the weekends, go barhopping a couple times a week, etc.
Then most of the people in the "clique" left. After that we really didn't do much, I went out for takeout chinese every day and made the rare appearance at department outings and other work functions.
Eventually I moved into our information security group. We're very close and tend to go out at least once a week if not more, have long happy hours for no apparent reason, go to each others weddings and suchlike. There are usually even invaders from other engineering and security functions within the company.
A lot of it also comes from the large number of 5-15 year workers here and the fact that everyone knows everyone because most of us have been here so long.
And yes, I have passed up large raises to stay where I'm at and work with the people I work with. Not massive raises, but big enough that it could have been a lot more fun money.
(Typically we consume massive amounts of alcohol too, so I guess we're like the ol' sysadmins in one respect...)
Once app owners catch up to using the expansion slots vs. normal system memory it will be even better.
The problem with running Linux on your PDA is that it's sort of like attacking a fly with a sledgehammer. PalmOS does the basics and does them fairly well. No, it's not a multitasking OS that can run web servers and connect to mass storage devices (without a little help from third party vendors anyway). It does do a pretty handy job of keeping track of the information you'd want to keep around you. It has a TCP/IP stack that allows it to talk to other systems with not too much trouble. I know it's sort of passe to ask "what more do you need?" but especially on a limited budget, you need to decide what features you'll really use and what's just fluff that you will never ever touch.
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When I started in IT 5 years ago, about half of my group frequently socialized. I was the youngest of the group at 21, and I think the oldest in the "clique" was about 28. We'd go to lunch every day, have parties on the weekends, go barhopping a couple times a week, etc.
Then most of the people in the "clique" left. After that we really didn't do much, I went out for takeout chinese every day and made the rare appearance at department outings and other work functions.
Eventually I moved into our information security group. We're very close and tend to go out at least once a week if not more, have long happy hours for no apparent reason, go to each others weddings and suchlike. There are usually even invaders from other engineering and security functions within the company.
A lot of it also comes from the large number of 5-15 year workers here and the fact that everyone knows everyone because most of us have been here so long.
And yes, I have passed up large raises to stay where I'm at and work with the people I work with. Not massive raises, but big enough that it could have been a lot more fun money.
(Typically we consume massive amounts of alcohol too, so I guess we're like the ol' sysadmins in one respect...)
Once app owners catch up to using the expansion slots vs. normal system memory it will be even better.
The problem with running Linux on your PDA is that it's sort of like attacking a fly with a sledgehammer. PalmOS does the basics and does them fairly well. No, it's not a multitasking OS that can run web servers and connect to mass storage devices (without a little help from third party vendors anyway). It does do a pretty handy job of keeping track of the information you'd want to keep around you. It has a TCP/IP stack that allows it to talk to other systems with not too much trouble. I know it's sort of passe to ask "what more do you need?" but especially on a limited budget, you need to decide what features you'll really use and what's just fluff that you will never ever touch.