except that with.NET 4.0, it uses a different CLR version (the first since.NET became popular), so a lot of apps that were built using.NET 1.1, 2.0 or 3.5 will not work with your app.
The more I use.NET, the more I find its a PITA, there's too many dependancies and funny ways of referencing different dlls. Why they couldn't just use "current directory, GAC, path" for searching, for example, is crazy. When something goes wrong, for a complex piece of software (and that's what I do, multi-million LoC apps) then.NET is more of a nuisance than you could ever believe.
However, everything that is useful in business except for graphic design and web design is run on a PC using Windows XP or Windows 7.
except all the stuff that Google is doing. I think they're doing some coding type work.
oh, and all those banks that run Unix or Cobol or zOS mainframes. Or the engineering companies running Linux. Or the web services companies running Linux or FreeBSD. Hell, I mean we're a brainwashed Microsoft shop but we run our Oracle DBs on Linux.
Perhaps the world's not a simple "Windows only" as you think.
but you can get 5Gb if you pay for it, 500mb is just the cap for the amount you pay upfront.
Overage charges for O2 are 2.4p on retail, and 2p on business tariffs. So you pay your basic £25pcm for 500mb, then an extra £108 for the excess up to 5Gb. Maybe you'll be able to get a discount if you contact them before using all that.
or, slashdot is responding to customer demand - ie, we want to reply to inflammatory articles about Apple and MS, so they provide us with what we want!
Its like saying Simon Cowell and XXX Idol (hmm, I mean American Idol / Pop Idol etc, but I think I've just had an idea for something rather good....) are crap, but they are produced simply because that's the kind of crap the public want.
Besides, if you don't like Apple stories, edit your preferences for crying out loud.
nor mine, but then I never installed the PoC Microsoft toolbar that needs to be updated:
From TFA: Additional testing determined that the update is only being offered to those with one of the Microsoft toolbars installed, regardless of whether they are enabled or disabled. It's unknown how many users fall into that scenario, but the toolbars often come bundled with new PCs and popular Microsoft downloads.
So.. the moral here is: don't install any Microsoft software and you won't have these problems:)
I'll just tell our corporate IT department, I'd like to run our key software using a trial. That shouldn't be a problem:)
I suppose it can't be worse, and its interesting to see the menu really being put into the ribbon. One thing that bugs me is the html email composition - can I really get rid of the blue bar that indents replies, and can I realy make the text-only with > indents work properly now (for certain mailing lists)
oh god yes, me too. I think I only found that orb was a menu and not just decoration when I accidentally clicked on it out of frustration. And lo, there was the print button off the other menu - not the ribbon that replaces all menus, or the little toolbar at the top, but the menu they said they'd replaced with something better.
I still hate it, but more because its as slow as anything, Outlook especially. Its so bad, I think I'd be happy to migrate to Notes:)
Yes, a HDMI output port would make these things much more like a small PC. Wander around with it, reading your emails, then get to the office and plug a cable into it from your TV/Monitor. Add a bluetooth keyboard and you have something every salesman, accountant, and manager dreams of.
I reckon that's the future of computing devices, not Windows anymore.
n fact, I've even seen Bruce Schneier running Windows on his laptop, so it's completely safe!!
You're making the schoolboy mistake of thinking that your laptop is safe too. Its safe because its Bruce Schneier's laptop its running on. Viruses take one look at the hostname and die instantly.
I'm prepared to be put right here, as I didn't know if it was compiled or not, but a quick google brought up a reference manual for the erlang compiler. That's my defence and I'm sticking to it... now off to edit wikipedia's entry:)
who said anything about the iPad, I was really referring to any generic gadget, think how many no-brand mp3 players are sold, the 15c saving adds up; how many washing machines with an embedded controller, etc.
there's a lot of stuff out there that do get produced in the millions or units range. Admittedly they tend to be cheaper than the iPad.
When you build 100,000 of something, you can afford some up-front development cost to save $.15
That's only $15000. The thing is, these places build 10,000,000 of them. Then you realise why your cheap-ass no-name gadget has such a cheap plasticky cover.
So if I want to develop an application for both of these platforms, in what language should I express the business logic of the application
Dalvik.
Oh ok then, you want C++ - iPhone can be developer using C/C++, and a subset of C++ can compile to the CLR. Just ignore managed C++ STL, its slow as you can imagine. (yes, and you can write C/C++ apps for Android too). The major thing to remember when architecting your apps is to decouple the GUI so you can slap a C#/Obj/Java GUI on top.
Why do most home users want a PC for? To view the web and send emails. They can do the latter on their phones nowadays, so once you can get connected to the internet via a set-top consumer box (that never goes wrong, of course, well not like a PC does) then you're golden. No more complicated PCs that fill up with annoying spam popups and security problems; just a box that records your TV, plays your movies and pictures, and lets you watch the crap you like to watch on the internet.
It may not be for the likes of you or me, but it'll do well for 80% of the population.
The long term benefits will be profound - Google will use the system in a corporate setting, identify the missing bits from the Linux ecosystem, and write them.
People always go on about Linux's lack of group policies.. (yes, I know puppet exists) Google, if they see this as a limiting feature, will improve/write new apps.
The same applies to everything else they use. linux has just gained a big enterprise development shop. In the long-term, this can't be a bad thing.
I'm not sure about you Americans and your zealous taxman, but generally yes, its the $50k. You then claim the $45k as deductible expenses reducing the bill to $5k.
Of course, if you can't prove that you did buy the trailer full of stuff, its because the seller isn't paying tax on it. The taxman will charge you the full amount, which really just means you're paying the tax your supplier should have paid. The taxman gets it all regardless of who pays for it.
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The apps "Just work"
except that with .NET 4.0, it uses a different CLR version (the first since .NET became popular), so a lot of apps that were built using .NET 1.1, 2.0 or 3.5 will not work with your app.
The more I use .NET, the more I find its a PITA, there's too many dependancies and funny ways of referencing different dlls. Why they couldn't just use "current directory, GAC, path" for searching, for example, is crazy. When something goes wrong, for a complex piece of software (and that's what I do, multi-million LoC apps) then .NET is more of a nuisance than you could ever believe.
However, everything that is useful in business except for graphic design and web design is run on a PC using Windows XP or Windows 7.
except all the stuff that Google is doing. I think they're doing some coding type work.
oh, and all those banks that run Unix or Cobol or zOS mainframes. Or the engineering companies running Linux. Or the web services companies running Linux or FreeBSD. Hell, I mean we're a brainwashed Microsoft shop but we run our Oracle DBs on Linux.
Perhaps the world's not a simple "Windows only" as you think.
If you absolutely *can't* take those servers down
If you can't take those servers down, nature will be getting ready to do it for you. At a time when you least want it's "assistance".
but you can get 5Gb if you pay for it, 500mb is just the cap for the amount you pay upfront.
Overage charges for O2 are 2.4p on retail, and 2p on business tariffs. So you pay your basic £25pcm for 500mb, then an extra £108 for the excess up to 5Gb. Maybe you'll be able to get a discount if you contact them before using all that.
aye, and there's a difference between 'knowing', 'proving' and 'oh sod it, just put a cap on everyone'
As usual, its a minority who spoil it for the rest of us.
or, slashdot is responding to customer demand - ie, we want to reply to inflammatory articles about Apple and MS, so they provide us with what we want!
Its like saying Simon Cowell and XXX Idol (hmm, I mean American Idol / Pop Idol etc, but I think I've just had an idea for something rather good....) are crap, but they are produced simply because that's the kind of crap the public want.
Besides, if you don't like Apple stories, edit your preferences for crying out loud.
nor mine, but then I never installed the PoC Microsoft toolbar that needs to be updated:
From TFA:
Additional testing determined that the update is only being offered to those with one of the Microsoft toolbars installed, regardless of whether they are enabled or disabled. It's unknown how many users fall into that scenario, but the toolbars often come bundled with new PCs and popular Microsoft downloads.
So.. the moral here is: don't install any Microsoft software and you won't have these problems :)
I'll just tell our corporate IT department, I'd like to run our key software using a trial. That shouldn't be a problem :)
I suppose it can't be worse, and its interesting to see the menu really being put into the ribbon. One thing that bugs me is the html email composition - can I really get rid of the blue bar that indents replies, and can I realy make the text-only with > indents work properly now (for certain mailing lists)
oh god yes, me too. I think I only found that orb was a menu and not just decoration when I accidentally clicked on it out of frustration. And lo, there was the print button off the other menu - not the ribbon that replaces all menus, or the little toolbar at the top, but the menu they said they'd replaced with something better.
I still hate it, but more because its as slow as anything, Outlook especially. Its so bad, I think I'd be happy to migrate to Notes :)
because luck has it that you often want to use it when there aren't terminals around.
Yes, a HDMI output port would make these things much more like a small PC. Wander around with it, reading your emails, then get to the office and plug a cable into it from your TV/Monitor. Add a bluetooth keyboard and you have something every salesman, accountant, and manager dreams of.
I reckon that's the future of computing devices, not Windows anymore.
popularity never had anything to do with quality. Look at what's top of the 'popular' music charts at the moment for an example.
n fact, I've even seen Bruce Schneier running Windows on his laptop, so it's completely safe!!
You're making the schoolboy mistake of thinking that your laptop is safe too. Its safe because its Bruce Schneier's laptop its running on. Viruses take one look at the hostname and die instantly.
I'm prepared to be put right here, as I didn't know if it was compiled or not, but a quick google brought up a reference manual for the erlang compiler. That's my defence and I'm sticking to it... now off to edit wikipedia's entry :)
I thought it was, unless you compile it with the unsafe options and use the unsafe features, the C++/CLI language is verifiable.
From wrox press:
The compiler does, however, support compilation options to restrict programs to a verifiable subset of the language
who said anything about the iPad, I was really referring to any generic gadget, think how many no-brand mp3 players are sold, the 15c saving adds up; how many washing machines with an embedded controller, etc.
there's a lot of stuff out there that do get produced in the millions or units range. Admittedly they tend to be cheaper than the iPad.
When you build 100,000 of something, you can afford some up-front development cost to save $.15
That's only $15000. The thing is, these places build 10,000,000 of them. Then you realise why your cheap-ass no-name gadget has such a cheap plasticky cover.
And if I'd ask you to name another compiled language with dynamic message routing/dispatch
Erlang.
So if I want to develop an application for both of these platforms, in what language should I express the business logic of the application
Dalvik.
Oh ok then, you want C++ - iPhone can be developer using C/C++, and a subset of C++ can compile to the CLR. Just ignore managed C++ STL, its slow as you can imagine. (yes, and you can write C/C++ apps for Android too). The major thing to remember when architecting your apps is to decouple the GUI so you can slap a C#/Obj/Java GUI on top.
At best it shows that Objective-C programming has resulted in more discussions and questions. Whether it is "popular" or not is a bit more subjective.
So when did 'more discussions about something' not equate to 'more popular'?
and if you pull the string on its back again it says "yeeeha, take that", "boom-shanka, mon" and "I want a pony".
The next "killer app" is pretty much Google TV.
Why do most home users want a PC for? To view the web and send emails. They can do the latter on their phones nowadays, so once you can get connected to the internet via a set-top consumer box (that never goes wrong, of course, well not like a PC does) then you're golden. No more complicated PCs that fill up with annoying spam popups and security problems; just a box that records your TV, plays your movies and pictures, and lets you watch the crap you like to watch on the internet.
It may not be for the likes of you or me, but it'll do well for 80% of the population.
The long term benefits will be profound - Google will use the system in a corporate setting, identify the missing bits from the Linux ecosystem, and write them.
People always go on about Linux's lack of group policies.. (yes, I know puppet exists) Google, if they see this as a limiting feature, will improve/write new apps.
The same applies to everything else they use. linux has just gained a big enterprise development shop. In the long-term, this can't be a bad thing.
I see your X and raise you a zip container
I'm not sure about you Americans and your zealous taxman, but generally yes, its the $50k. You then claim the $45k as deductible expenses reducing the bill to $5k.
Of course, if you can't prove that you did buy the trailer full of stuff, its because the seller isn't paying tax on it. The taxman will charge you the full amount, which really just means you're paying the tax your supplier should have paid. The taxman gets it all regardless of who pays for it.