Someone who feels they have a perfectly legitimate complaint against the government of the US might still fear posting knowing that they can be held accountable.
Granted, but the idea here seems to be to make the site as legitimate as possible, so when the government wander in and say "We want to know who this anonymous poster saying bad things about us is.", Gielda can say, "Sorry chum, the government say that anonymity is part of free speech." The point I see is that at least as a legit site, there's no case of anyone saying "You're a bunch of yahoos who let anyone post anything."
Gotta cut this short, gotta go home:-) Regards, cmclean
My point, which I admit could appear vague, is that if you give people the opportunity to hide behind anonymity, some of them will post utter shit, as I'm sure you are aware. My post was in response to your complaint that you cannot have anonymity where you have also accountability. I'm sure all those who have a genuine use for the service that cotse.com provide are not bothered. It keeps out the idiots, thus ensuring the service still has credibility, and does not have to answer the charge of being a free-for-all-anonymous-flame-portal.
Regards,
cmclean
Try browsing through the posts associated with this (or any other) article at -1, check out all the stuff from "Anonymous Coward", then consider again the anonymity/accountabiliy argument. I sure as hell would not want to be held responsible for some of the stuff that appears at -1 in the discussions on slashdot, and they are nothing compared to some of the advocacy flamewars available now from an NNTP server near you. Regards, cmclean
1) If, like me, you don't have a development environment to play 2.4.0-pre? on, you sure as heck aren't going to slap it on your live application server and just pray. I hope.
2) one point which I felt came across in the article was that the lines between 'work' and 'leisure' time have been blurred by the hacker ethic and mentality. I enjoy the job I do, even though it means sometimes working 70-80 hours a week, and some of the work I do I could easily classify as leisure because of my enjoyment of it.
It all comes down to reasons for doing the job, you do it because you enjoy it, or you do it for the money. Some of the lucky ones manage both (Although I'm still working on the money part;-)
My God Man, have you even *read* the UK's proposed Regulation of Investigatory Powers bill, the idea of 'guilty until you prove yourself innocent' seems a little inquisitorial for my liking. By far my favorite part, however, is that you get 2 years in prison if you can't prove you don't have the private key the police want, and another 5 years if you complain about it.
Now I'm all in favour of the 'contempt of court' laws, but hang on a minute here...
Further, and more in-depth commentary can be found at Stand.org.uk for those who are interested.
Slashdot Mirror
Granted, but the idea here seems to be to make the site as legitimate as possible, so when the government wander in and say "We want to know who this anonymous poster saying bad things about us is.", Gielda can say, "Sorry chum, the government say that anonymity is part of free speech." :-)
The point I see is that at least as a legit site, there's no case of anyone saying "You're a bunch of yahoos who let anyone post anything."
Gotta cut this short, gotta go home
Regards,
cmclean
My point, which I admit could appear vague, is that if you give people the opportunity to hide behind anonymity, some of them will post utter shit, as I'm sure you are aware.
My post was in response to your complaint that you cannot have anonymity where you have also accountability. I'm sure all those who have a genuine use for the service that cotse.com provide are not bothered.
It keeps out the idiots, thus ensuring the service still has credibility, and does not have to answer the charge of being a free-for-all-anonymous-flame-portal.
Regards,
cmclean
Try browsing through the posts associated with this (or any other) article at -1, check out all the stuff from "Anonymous Coward", then consider again the anonymity/accountabiliy argument.
I sure as hell would not want to be held responsible for some of the stuff that appears at -1 in the discussions on slashdot, and they are nothing compared to some of the advocacy flamewars available now from an NNTP server near you.
Regards,
cmclean
Maybe she was that rubbish? ;-)
cmclean
And most of usenet these days. sigh.
cmclean
N.B. for the easily offended: that link contains naughty language.
Try The Register.
It's not the whole thing, but you'll get the drift.
Craig.
1) If, like me, you don't have a development environment to play 2.4.0-pre? on, you sure as heck aren't going to slap it on your live application server and just pray. I hope.
2) one point which I felt came across in the article was that the lines between 'work' and 'leisure' time have been blurred by the hacker ethic and mentality. I enjoy the job I do, even though it means sometimes working 70-80 hours a week, and some of the work I do I could easily classify as leisure because of my enjoyment of it.
It all comes down to reasons for doing the job, you do it because you enjoy it, or you do it for the money. Some of the lucky ones manage both (Although I'm still working on the money part;-)
just my E0.02.
Craig.
s/the handholding/a punishment beating/
HTH!
cmclean
Now I'm all in favour of the 'contempt of court' laws, but hang on a minute here...
Further, and more in-depth commentary can be found at Stand.org.uk for those who are interested.
Craig.