In my quest to ditch Yahoo! Messenger once and for all, I decided to settle on Google Talk and MSN Messenger (MSN allowed messaging with Y! users). Then, Microsoft abandons the MSN Messenger service in favor of Skype--oh, great. One down, that means I can still use Pidgin for Google now at least. And now... Google fucking decides to abandon Google Talk for Hangouts.
As a Pidgin user for several years now, is fucking anything else going to be left? I gave up AIM over a decade ago; I gave up Yahoo! a few years ago (when the Outlook.com preview came online); Microsoft ditched MSN; Google is ditching Talk. Seriously, what the fuck? The IM world is dropping compatibility like flies. What are these companies trying to do? Force us to just blow minutes talking on a phone, or dick around with a tiny screen and a god damn cell phone "keyboard"? I think it's safe to say that the state of instant messaging is truly fucked right about now.
I've been blocking third-party cookies for years with absolutely no hint of any site failing to load correctly. If there is ever a problem, it is scripting, and choosing to disable NoScript on one or more sites typically sorts that out. Get the advertising industry's dick out of your ass and just fucking block third-party cookies already, Mozilla. It should have been done a hell of a long time ago. This new versioning system can be so amazingly retarded; we're at Firefox 21 already, already talking about Firefox 22, and Mozilla is still dragging their feet around on something as simple as the default fucking setting of a checkbox regarding third-party cookies. Talk about illusion of progress! You know that by this point, Mozilla no longer gives a shit about their actual users and seems to have their priorities in the advertisers; otherwise there would be no question, no delay. Why hasn't there been a fork of Firefox yet? IMO, it's been needing one free of Mozilla's bullshit since the 2.x.x days at the very least, or possible 3.x. This is getting ridiculous.
You seriously consider the name to be more important than the software itself and its functionality. I think you need to get your priorities straight, because they seem to be fucked.
I got the joke. I was joking back, but apparently that wasn't caught by your detector.
I was contemplating whether I should have added that second line or not. Do, and people will think I'm serious and not realize I'm just joking as well; Don't, and people will get offensive thinking I'm trolling and just slamming Firefox for the hell of it. But for stability these days, I figured credit is due, because I've slammed Mozilla/Firefox enough in the past.
What is a Firefox? A miserable little pile of sources.
Really? I was under the impression that, traditionally, a Firefox was a miserable little pile of memory leaks. Although these days, that doesn't quite seem to be the case as much as it used to be.
Well, when you can be put in prison for three years just for saying words of praise about Adolf Hitler, I don't exactly think they had freedom of speech to begin with. It's not the United States, you know... and even here there are exceptions.
Firefox is a web browser, in my opinion the built-in PDF reader is completely unnecessary bloat. That update automatically changed *my* preferences without my permission, requiring me to dick around in the preferences for a minute or so to switch the default PDF viewer back to Evince.
On Windows, what is the point in using Adobe Reader anyway (unless you really want to deal with the bloat and security holes)? Okay, so these days FoxIt Reader also sucks so it's probably also out of the question, but what's wrong with SumatraPDF and even the Windows version of Evince? And don't say that they have PDF loading/rendering issues, because as others have already said, the Firefox PDF viewer is just crammed with these problems, more than any viewer I've used recently; it is absolutely horrible.
The old download window was horrendous too. People actually use that? I usually download files with wget, but I never use a copy of Firefox without the Download Statusbar extension. As far as I can tell, they replaced a shit interface with another shit interface; they didn't really improve anything.
So, I want to ask again (and I'm beating a horse that is not only dead, but buried, and decomposed, with only a few bones and other hard items left), what's the point of these fast track updates?
It's a number-counting game with Google--that's pretty much it. They seem to be trying to play a game of "who can count to a hundred and need a new version system and/or product name the fastest."
I agree actually, but I guess you could always try SeaMonkey. It supports a lot of Firefox extensions, and it still seems to have some sanity. I just can't go back to the older Netscape/Mozilla-style preferences window, but it's certainly not a bad browser. IMO Firefox should have been forked by the end of the 2.x series, or 3.6.x series at the latest. Firefox and Mozilla itself have been on a steady, sharp decline in sanity for years now.
You're assuming that just the act of drinking WILL cause someone to floor it and go on some random racing and/or speeding spree. You haven't been watching Reefer Madness, have you? Here's a hint: That's not the reality. In most cases, people simply have impaired driving. Hell, some might even drive knowingly slower. Alcohol will not just automatically turn everyone into a fucking speeding maniac. And lay off the "giant metal death machine" bullshit, we don't need any stupid yellow journalism-style garbage exaggerations. Not to mention, it's a pretty dumb claim anyway considering the entire body of the car is pretty much just plastic with glass windows these days. The car manufacturers ditched "metal machines" a long time ago for cheap fiberglass.
Although Microsoft isn't listing the exact feedback, Reller admits that the company has heard the cries for a Start button. "We have heard that, we definitely have heard that and taken that into account," she explains. "We've really also tried to understand what people are really asking for when they're asking for that."
Nothing is going to change. They appear to be making every attempt to avoid the actual problem in an effort to make it seem that they are actually concerned; yet, when it comes to bringing the actual Start menu back in its traditional form, it appears that there's no chance of that happening. They are too busy trying to come up with some new abomination, which will only serve to piss even more people off and cause even more confusion. They refuse to acknowledge that all people want is the Start menu back in its previous form, by clicking a button in the corner of the screen. They are trying their damnedest to somehow "prove" that they were right all along by trying to find and somehow "fix" a problem that doesn't even exist.
To be honest, I don't really care what they do--nothing's going to change anyway. Nowhere did I make any kind of "demand" that they keep their legs shut. I'm just stating that I do not believe cultural diets are the problem, and that a large part of the problem is, in fact, due to the surge in population that shows no sign of slowing. Add in the increasingly effective world of modern medicine preventing people in many areas of the world from dying until long after they're due, and you've got a problem. Yes, I am from the U.S., and I see people having babies for no good reason whatsoever all the time, with no thought about anything but a night of fucking without a rubber and/or birth control drugs. Couldn't care less about "third world countries" like Haiti and those in Africa, to be completely honest; the rampant disease and natural disasters alone, combined with lack of medical knowledge (or knowledge about, well... anything), will wipe them out somewhat and keep things balanced. Nature will sort it out.
Because that is fucking sick, and as soon as some kind of insect makes it to the ingredients list of a commercial product, someone will find out and probably start a lawsuit. Surely no company in their right mind will advertise such revolting shit on their product labels.
Indeed, it's a cultural problem that we'll likely have to rectify going forward, unless we either wipe out a large portion of the human population or all go vegetarian.
Rectify? Who says cultural beliefs and practices are a problem? I would say the real problem lies primarily in those people who can't keep their fucking pants on and have babies with absolutely no thought about any potential problems--whether it affects themselves directly, their family, their baby's future, or even national/worldwide problems like the economy and food supply vs. population overgrowth.
My standard process when installing a web browser includes:
* Block all third-party cookies. * Install an ad blocker (AdBlock Plus) * Install a script blocker (NoScript) * Install a tracker blocker (DoNotTrackMe)
No ads, nowhere, and a much faster, safer, more trouble-free browsing experience.
This isn't cable TV in the 1990s; it's the Internet in the age of web browser extensions. What you're doing is roughly equivalent to taking a piss during a commercial break. That's old, manual technology that requires you to take physical action. Today, there are much, much better methods available that are fully automatic and require absolutely no effort on your part beyond the initial setup. You might want to upgrade your own standard practice.
What can I say? I had next to no problems with the distro, so I really didn't need to be very active in the community. I didn't see any major hints of elitist pricks posting while I was there. I can't say much, but what I can say is at least not negative.
I personally like that if I want pure Openbox and a standard set of options there's Debian, but if I want a more tweaked Openbox with tint2 and lots of other customizations I can choose CrunchBang. They both fulfill their unique, if semi-overlapping, purposes. I see no reason to CrunchBangify Debian and eliminate CrunchBang itself. If people would actually try it themselves instead of jumping to conclusions, they'd see that it's not exactly "just" Debian with Openbox. There is more to it than that.
-update repository data -update packages -install printer support -install java -install libreoffice -ssh server -lamp stack -a few dev tools
Some of these things have been moved from the system installer to the post-install script (openssh daemon, printer support).
In my opinion, what makes CrunchBang unique compared to Debian with Openbox manually installed is that CrunchBang contains it all, ready to go, in an offline CD-based installer. It has the base system and the desktop/window manager, all in one simplified, fast installer that fits on a CD-ROM. The desktop is already pretty nice by default, so less tweaking has to be done. The rest is a simple apt-get away, or available through the menu and post-installation script if you want a somewhat easier way.
To be honest, all of this stuff can be done faster and more conveniently with Debian's native package management tools. The reason is, for every selection, if you hit "y" the post-install script will go on ahead and perform the action immediately, so you'll have to wait until the action is completed before you can move on to the next step. The script itself even states that it is not only optional, but displays the command to run it at a later time if you want. Or, of course, you could just use Debian's native package management tools; no one is forcing you to use it.
CrunchBang also places items in the OpenBox menu to install certain common programs, including some of the above (LibreOffice, printer support), as well as others (including Chromium, Chrome, Opera). I think this is somewhat annoying, but I guess it works... or the items can just manually be removed if you have no intention of installing them.
I used CrunchBang for a brief period of time not too long ago, and while I didn't spend that much time on the forums, I have no complaints about my experience there. A needed to ask one question, I received an answer--no problem. I browsed around a bit and the community there seems nice.
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And if that person has (or primarily uses) a house phone, not a cell phone...?
In my quest to ditch Yahoo! Messenger once and for all, I decided to settle on Google Talk and MSN Messenger (MSN allowed messaging with Y! users). Then, Microsoft abandons the MSN Messenger service in favor of Skype--oh, great. One down, that means I can still use Pidgin for Google now at least. And now... Google fucking decides to abandon Google Talk for Hangouts.
As a Pidgin user for several years now, is fucking anything else going to be left? I gave up AIM over a decade ago; I gave up Yahoo! a few years ago (when the Outlook.com preview came online); Microsoft ditched MSN; Google is ditching Talk. Seriously, what the fuck? The IM world is dropping compatibility like flies. What are these companies trying to do? Force us to just blow minutes talking on a phone, or dick around with a tiny screen and a god damn cell phone "keyboard"? I think it's safe to say that the state of instant messaging is truly fucked right about now.
I've been blocking third-party cookies for years with absolutely no hint of any site failing to load correctly. If there is ever a problem, it is scripting, and choosing to disable NoScript on one or more sites typically sorts that out. Get the advertising industry's dick out of your ass and just fucking block third-party cookies already, Mozilla. It should have been done a hell of a long time ago. This new versioning system can be so amazingly retarded; we're at Firefox 21 already, already talking about Firefox 22, and Mozilla is still dragging their feet around on something as simple as the default fucking setting of a checkbox regarding third-party cookies. Talk about illusion of progress! You know that by this point, Mozilla no longer gives a shit about their actual users and seems to have their priorities in the advertisers; otherwise there would be no question, no delay. Why hasn't there been a fork of Firefox yet? IMO, it's been needing one free of Mozilla's bullshit since the 2.x.x days at the very least, or possible 3.x. This is getting ridiculous.
You seriously consider the name to be more important than the software itself and its functionality. I think you need to get your priorities straight, because they seem to be fucked.
Microsoft: "Keep firing, assholes!"
I got the joke. I was joking back, but apparently that wasn't caught by your detector.
I was contemplating whether I should have added that second line or not. Do, and people will think I'm serious and not realize I'm just joking as well; Don't, and people will get offensive thinking I'm trolling and just slamming Firefox for the hell of it. But for stability these days, I figured credit is due, because I've slammed Mozilla/Firefox enough in the past.
What is a Firefox? A miserable little pile of sources.
Really? I was under the impression that, traditionally, a Firefox was a miserable little pile of memory leaks. Although these days, that doesn't quite seem to be the case as much as it used to be.
Well, when you can be put in prison for three years just for saying words of praise about Adolf Hitler, I don't exactly think they had freedom of speech to begin with. It's not the United States, you know... and even here there are exceptions.
PDF reader?
Firefox is a web browser, in my opinion the built-in PDF reader is completely unnecessary bloat. That update automatically changed *my* preferences without my permission, requiring me to dick around in the preferences for a minute or so to switch the default PDF viewer back to Evince.
On Windows, what is the point in using Adobe Reader anyway (unless you really want to deal with the bloat and security holes)? Okay, so these days FoxIt Reader also sucks so it's probably also out of the question, but what's wrong with SumatraPDF and even the Windows version of Evince? And don't say that they have PDF loading/rendering issues, because as others have already said, the Firefox PDF viewer is just crammed with these problems, more than any viewer I've used recently; it is absolutely horrible.
The old download window was horrendous too. People actually use that? I usually download files with wget, but I never use a copy of Firefox without the Download Statusbar extension. As far as I can tell, they replaced a shit interface with another shit interface; they didn't really improve anything.
So, I want to ask again (and I'm beating a horse that is not only dead, but buried, and decomposed, with only a few bones and other hard items left), what's the point of these fast track updates?
It's a number-counting game with Google--that's pretty much it. They seem to be trying to play a game of "who can count to a hundred and need a new version system and/or product name the fastest."
I agree actually, but I guess you could always try SeaMonkey. It supports a lot of Firefox extensions, and it still seems to have some sanity. I just can't go back to the older Netscape/Mozilla-style preferences window, but it's certainly not a bad browser. IMO Firefox should have been forked by the end of the 2.x series, or 3.6.x series at the latest. Firefox and Mozilla itself have been on a steady, sharp decline in sanity for years now.
You're assuming that just the act of drinking WILL cause someone to floor it and go on some random racing and/or speeding spree. You haven't been watching Reefer Madness, have you? Here's a hint: That's not the reality. In most cases, people simply have impaired driving. Hell, some might even drive knowingly slower. Alcohol will not just automatically turn everyone into a fucking speeding maniac. And lay off the "giant metal death machine" bullshit, we don't need any stupid yellow journalism-style garbage exaggerations. Not to mention, it's a pretty dumb claim anyway considering the entire body of the car is pretty much just plastic with glass windows these days. The car manufacturers ditched "metal machines" a long time ago for cheap fiberglass.
New major version, no real worthwhile features worth mentioning. Say, hasn't that mostly been the case for the last 15 or so versions now?
I think you're right.
Although Microsoft isn't listing the exact feedback, Reller admits that the company has heard the cries for a Start button. "We have heard that, we definitely have heard that and taken that into account," she explains. "We've really also tried to understand what people are really asking for when they're asking for that."
http://www.theverge.com/2013/5/7/4306328/windows-8-1-release-date-pricing-windows-blue
Nothing is going to change. They appear to be making every attempt to avoid the actual problem in an effort to make it seem that they are actually concerned; yet, when it comes to bringing the actual Start menu back in its traditional form, it appears that there's no chance of that happening. They are too busy trying to come up with some new abomination, which will only serve to piss even more people off and cause even more confusion. They refuse to acknowledge that all people want is the Start menu back in its previous form, by clicking a button in the corner of the screen. They are trying their damnedest to somehow "prove" that they were right all along by trying to find and somehow "fix" a problem that doesn't even exist.
To be honest, I don't really care what they do--nothing's going to change anyway. Nowhere did I make any kind of "demand" that they keep their legs shut. I'm just stating that I do not believe cultural diets are the problem, and that a large part of the problem is, in fact, due to the surge in population that shows no sign of slowing. Add in the increasingly effective world of modern medicine preventing people in many areas of the world from dying until long after they're due, and you've got a problem. Yes, I am from the U.S., and I see people having babies for no good reason whatsoever all the time, with no thought about anything but a night of fucking without a rubber and/or birth control drugs. Couldn't care less about "third world countries" like Haiti and those in Africa, to be completely honest; the rampant disease and natural disasters alone, combined with lack of medical knowledge (or knowledge about, well... anything), will wipe them out somewhat and keep things balanced. Nature will sort it out.
Because that is fucking sick, and as soon as some kind of insect makes it to the ingredients list of a commercial product, someone will find out and probably start a lawsuit. Surely no company in their right mind will advertise such revolting shit on their product labels.
Indeed, it's a cultural problem that we'll likely have to rectify going forward, unless we either wipe out a large portion of the human population or all go vegetarian.
Rectify? Who says cultural beliefs and practices are a problem? I would say the real problem lies primarily in those people who can't keep their fucking pants on and have babies with absolutely no thought about any potential problems--whether it affects themselves directly, their family, their baby's future, or even national/worldwide problems like the economy and food supply vs. population overgrowth.
Oh, I forgot to mention the last bit:
* Enable the "Do Not Track" header (just to make sure they get the idea)
My standard process when installing a web browser includes:
* Block all third-party cookies.
* Install an ad blocker (AdBlock Plus)
* Install a script blocker (NoScript)
* Install a tracker blocker (DoNotTrackMe)
No ads, nowhere, and a much faster, safer, more trouble-free browsing experience.
This isn't cable TV in the 1990s; it's the Internet in the age of web browser extensions. What you're doing is roughly equivalent to taking a piss during a commercial break. That's old, manual technology that requires you to take physical action. Today, there are much, much better methods available that are fully automatic and require absolutely no effort on your part beyond the initial setup. You might want to upgrade your own standard practice.
What can I say? I had next to no problems with the distro, so I really didn't need to be very active in the community. I didn't see any major hints of elitist pricks posting while I was there. I can't say much, but what I can say is at least not negative.
I personally like that if I want pure Openbox and a standard set of options there's Debian, but if I want a more tweaked Openbox with tint2 and lots of other customizations I can choose CrunchBang. They both fulfill their unique, if semi-overlapping, purposes. I see no reason to CrunchBangify Debian and eliminate CrunchBang itself. If people would actually try it themselves instead of jumping to conclusions, they'd see that it's not exactly "just" Debian with Openbox. There is more to it than that.
-update repository data
-update packages
-install printer support
-install java
-install libreoffice
-ssh server
-lamp stack
-a few dev tools
Some of these things have been moved from the system installer to the post-install script (openssh daemon, printer support).
In my opinion, what makes CrunchBang unique compared to Debian with Openbox manually installed is that CrunchBang contains it all, ready to go, in an offline CD-based installer. It has the base system and the desktop/window manager, all in one simplified, fast installer that fits on a CD-ROM. The desktop is already pretty nice by default, so less tweaking has to be done. The rest is a simple apt-get away, or available through the menu and post-installation script if you want a somewhat easier way.
To be honest, all of this stuff can be done faster and more conveniently with Debian's native package management tools. The reason is, for every selection, if you hit "y" the post-install script will go on ahead and perform the action immediately, so you'll have to wait until the action is completed before you can move on to the next step. The script itself even states that it is not only optional, but displays the command to run it at a later time if you want. Or, of course, you could just use Debian's native package management tools; no one is forcing you to use it.
CrunchBang also places items in the OpenBox menu to install certain common programs, including some of the above (LibreOffice, printer support), as well as others (including Chromium, Chrome, Opera). I think this is somewhat annoying, but I guess it works... or the items can just manually be removed if you have no intention of installing them.
I used CrunchBang for a brief period of time not too long ago, and while I didn't spend that much time on the forums, I have no complaints about my experience there. A needed to ask one question, I received an answer--no problem. I browsed around a bit and the community there seems nice.