Since I've got you why you are here, what action are you taking to remove the laundry list of Democratic "hate sites"? Certainly, some of those sites you've removed may even take a militant stance against islamic oppression, but many of these democratic sites take an equally militant stance against Americans.
Uh huh.
You know it's interesting. A few years ago Republicans used to complain about things being labeled "hate speech", now they're more than happy to toss the claim around like candy in a parade. My guess is that you realized it was pointless to try to convince people that claiming "blacks should be happy for slavery, because it allowed them to come to America", wasn't winning any friends, so it was easier to just launch attacks at the opposition speech.
I'm not familiar with any Democratic "hate sites". I'm familiar with some democratic group blogs, and I know for a fact that the proprietors requested to google news that their sites not be aggragated, because it's not news and presumably they weren't desperate for extra traffic.
There artickle may not be something you or I would not read, but that doesn't mean they should be treated with special treatment.
If you want to read the site, you are more than welcome to do so. Nobody has taken their site off line. So there is no censorship here, or even anything remotely similar to censorship.
It's you who is demanding MichNews be given special treatment, by giving them the same validity in searches as BBC, CNN or any other credible news organization.
This comment in particular... Her greatest worry, she says, is what she calls "the liberal betrayal" -- the failure of the West to defend its own liberal democratic values against those who would destroy them.
I agree with that. It's one of my complaints against the Bush Administration. That they are refusing to defending democratic values, and instead appear to be doing everything they can to give ammunition to those who oppose democratic values.
Hmm, didn't even know who this woman was... So I did a search, and found a bunch of articles on google news with titles like "World's press slams Dutch over Hirsi Ali"
Power Line, Wonkette, Polipundit, Infoshop, and antiwar.com are indexed on Google news.
They shouldn't be.
but of course, that does not apply to the Christian religion in this case, does it?).
Oh man, why do you guys always have to start sounding like the Mullahs of Iran and make me not like you?
Let's not even begin to talk about cases where Google has been discovered to editorialize news headlines, such as removing the word "alleged" from a headline describing Guantanamo Bay as a "torture camp".
Oh, you poor poor victim. I feel so sorry for you, walking around thinking everybody is out to get you.
If you go down towards the bottom there's a FAQ and they have a link for you to tell them ways to improve google news.
These sites all get recommended to them, and my guess is google doesn't actually go read the content before just putting them in the list.
Although, in honestly. The Spoof and The Onion clearly label themselves as satire, so google can report on them correctly. WND, newsmax, Michnews and such don't properly label themselves as spoofs, on the other hand, even though they are clearly not serious.
I complained to google news about 2 years ago about MichNews, pointing out that it wasn't news at all but an opinion blog.
When you read shit like this(which is a random article just off the front page representative of their thought), you just really have to question the sanity of not just the publishers of the site, but the readers as well. Yet nobody is stopping any of these moonbats from reading the site. They just aren't getting the free advertising that google news provides.
This complaint is what you call whining. If you think there are other sites aggragated which aren't news, you can complain to google about them. Obviously if they receive enough complaints they'll yank them.
No, it's called trying to bring sanity to a bunch of mac zealots justifying their zealotry.
it was a wasted effort on my part and I apologize. People who buy Apple products will continue to buy Apple products even if they are priced twice as expensive, such as the MacBook Pro. There's nothing wrong with that, since it's not my money.
I first saw the phrase Post-PC back in 1998. This was after the Palm came out, and Infoworld dittoheads were declaring that with PDAs, nobody really needed a PC any more.
You're right. It's mindless punditry. It's like declaring the invention of the airplane as the post-automobile era, not realizing that the devices complement one another.
A differentiator is a significant difference. Thanks for conceding the point.
Huh? A differentiator is something which makes a product unique or different, to differentiate it from the competition. It's something which if it has it, you may consider it signifigant... or you may not care at all.
For example. BMW 3-series cars for 2006 all have run-flat tires on them. Does that mean if we are to compare it to an Audi we must equip it with run-flat tires even if it doesn't come as a factory option?
It depends upon the individual needs. Thanks for conceding another point.
Whoa, you're really reaching here, considering that has been my point all along.
Yes, just as Dell decided to include a modem. Each is something that cost money and was included by one vendor and not the other. Whether we care which we have or whether we ever expect to use either the optical drive or the modem is irrelevant for purposes of comparing the relative costs of the machines and their hardware.
Exactly, which is why we shouldn't even try to equip both computers identically. I don't have any need for a modem as I use bluetooth from my cell, so it's nice that Apple has gone this direction.
In this day and age a modem is a differentiator, not an essential feature.
I'll take that to mean you don't know if you can use it this way under Windows with the available drivers and this hardware, otherwise point me to a link bright boy.
No, that was clearly an insult.
This is the logical fallacy of, "ad hominem attack," thanks for playing.
Technically that's not ad hominem.
Consumer Reports just isn't a reliable source. It's better than being ignorant, I suppose. But if you have any knowledge on a given topic and then read their reviews you'd understand they aren't experts. Plus their surveys are self-selecting, not random. That is, they don't do a valid random sampling, but rely upon people sending in their opinions freely. As such, it self-selects to fan boy syndrome. Has been this way with their car reviews, so I don't expect it to be different with computers.
Either go back to believing whatever you heard somewhere in marketing materials, or sit down and read a book on logic and critical thinking. Then do a little research and base your opinion on that research, not on what facts you can find to support the opinion you already made.
This is what we on the internets call projection, Mac fan boi.
In addition to my own personal experience, I have some pretty good statistical evidence to back up my purchasing decisions. What exactly do you have again?
My buttometer, which I must say is more accurate than your psuedo-scientific analysis if you think Sony and IBM makes better computers than Dell.
...ummm, you don't consider an entire suite of very well regarded programs including a video editing package, DVD creation/burning software (including licensing), music mixing software, etc. to be a major feature? Well, it is to a lot of people.
No. I consider it a differentiater.
That all depends upon your intended uses. It is very critical if you are using them in a corporate network. That is why we don't judge the importance of features, only the cost.
Obviously it depends on the individual needs, but they aren't critical. We could just as easily say that in order to maintain comparability we need to include XP Pro in the price of the MacBook. But again, that's rather pointless.
They are more desirable to you, but that is not an objective measure. I happen to disagree. More importantly, however, the slot loading drives are more expensive to purchase, which is what concerns us.
Well that was a choice Apple made. If it's important to you, then it's a differentiating factor. But it's not a factor of comparability because it's not important to most people....only if it is supported in the OS. Is it? Can you find this functionality detailed anywhere for the Dell or any other Windows PC, because I haven't. If so, what resolutions of external monitors will it support?
You're shitting me. You think Apple invented this? Christ, you are a Apple fan boi.
Consumer reports is one of the very few product review companies that does not take special donations and other favors from the companies it reviews. It buys them all retail,
I know who consumer reports is. If you did, you wouldn't put so much faith in them.
This is pretty widely known industry knowledge.
Right, just like your consumer reports as a reliable source. LOL!
Maybe you're not clear on what "logic" is. It is not agreeing with whatever marketing hype is loudest. It is objectively looking at collected facts and making a decision based upon them.
If a Mac Mini fits your needs... then you can find machines from Dell which are more suitable for your needs than a Dual Xeon Desktop. Or vice versa, if you need the Dual Xeon, then you need to be looking at more powerful machines from Apple.
The point being, the lack of one single feature does not immediately discount the comparison.
See - this is why people compare things that are as identical as possible. The more variables you change, the less apt your comparison is.
No, what I've noticed is that Apple people want to load up the Dell with crap that is what makes Apple unique, but not vice versa. I don't see them demanding the Apple be compared with a Word Processor tacked on, or a copy of XP Pro and Boot Camp... because you know, you have to make them comparable.
Apple knew this reality of comparisons when they switched over to the Intel chipset, which is why they've decided to not compete on cost, but rather little extra features which may make the machine appealing to some. Just as I drive a BMW and not a Chevy.
I was just responding to the stupid comparison on price, which was clearly wrong. I'm sorry that you guys are not willing to recognize reality, and decide to attack anybody who points out the Apple still costs more.
Yes, there certainly is a point. We're not trying to find the cheapest machine that will do some specific (but undefined) set of tasks, we're trying to compare as closely as possible the pricing of the same hardware from different vendors. Otherwise I could just as easily say, I always use my laptop at home with an external monitor, so I can just pay $150 for a used laptop with a broken LCD and it beats them both for price. The point is to make them as close as possible.
Certainly, but just because the Dell comes with Solitaire doesn't mean the apple has to. Which is why we look at the major specs... CPU, harddrive, memory, screen, size and weight, etc.
This is not true. It also restricts the multiprocessing algorithm, access controls, remote desktop server, offline copies of network files, and the built-in encryption features.
Uhh, hardly critical issues. XP Home supports only a single physical processor, but certainly supports dual core. Access controls and offline copies of network files are only an issue in a domain environment. Remote connections appear available within MCE. Encryption is another domain only solution, because of the way it is implemented.
Sorry, but like it or not, Apple includes software that provides a wide range of common functionality that is not provided by software included with Dells. That software has a lot of value to a lot of people. Remember we're trying to get as close of a match as possible here.
Perhaps. But isn't it curious how they give you iLife for free and charge you for iWork... but the Dell gives you a free word processor? Are you going to add $79 to the price of the MacBook to make up for this definciency?
My first laptop with one is about four years old, and has not had any problems with it, despite regular use and lots of banging around in bags. (it was actually a refurb too, so the drive may be older than that.) I know this is anecdotal, but no more so than your comment.
Certainly. But I've had numerous desktops with these. For a while that is what compaq was shipping, also one of the first CDROM drives I bought was an NEC changer. The drawers are more desirable.
They don't mention it in their literature and none of the Dell or IBM laptops here support it. Do you have any evidence that it does support monitor spanning (not just mirroring)?
It's a function of the video card, and they both come with the Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 950. I can't say I've ever used the intel integrated in that fashion, as I've always had ATI chips in my laptops. But sheesh, I mean get real.
You laugh at my comments about reliability and support. Fine. My source is consumer reports, which issues a review every year and which is both independent and well regarded.
LOL! Consumer Reports. LOL!
Do you have a credible source that contradicts it? For that matter, most all of the studies I've seen as well as my own personal anecdotal evidence agree.
Yeah, my personal anecdotal evidence overwhelms yours. I'm not an Apple fan boy, and certainly have no loyalty to Dell. I'll trash any product which doesn't meet my needs, no matter who it is from.
But to claim Dell is the worst in the industry eludes logic.
Configuring the same system though, I get $866 (with the remote control and backup CD needed to match the macbook specs).
If I don't need it, I don't need it. There's no point in trying to match specs, because the Dell is going to have stuff that Apple does not have and vice versa. It's what makes the machines unique to one another.
I'm also not sure Media-Center or Home versions of XP are a fair trade for OS X. They are crippleware versions of the desktop OS, unlike OS X which has no such restrictions.
Again, if you don't need it, you don't need it. If you do you do. XP Home only lacks ability to add to a domain, and install the IIS tools. The ability to join a domain, and install MSMQ client is going to be critical for a corporate user, but probably not a home user/student.
As for included software, I don't see an option to add the equivalent of iLife. It also looks like there is no option to add a built in Webcam.
This is the crap that makes Apple unique. For the other 95% of us who don't need it, what's the point? It's like complaining that OS-X doesn't include Solitaire.
Also the cool power connector is a plus for some of us as is the slot drive, rather than a tray.
Interesting. I didn't notice the slot load drive. Nice in that you can't break it off. Kind of a negative in that slot drives tend to accumulate gunk, especially in a laptop which you're moving around a lot. Not sure if that's a good or bad thing.
The ability to do monitor spanning is also a huge plus, which I think is not an option for the Dell.
Why would you think that? Are you just trying to demonstrate your lack of knowledge?
Dell sells some of the cheapest, least reliable hardware in the business, with mediocre to poor rated customer support.
BWAAA HAHAHAHAAA!
Comparatively, Apple rates as some of the most reliable hardware in the industry, with the highest rated customer support of the big 8, for many years running.
And why do I need XP Pro? Pro gives you IIS, which is no longer necessary with VS.NET 2005 and it's use of Cassini, and the ability to join a Domain which is only necessary if you are talking about a business laptop.
I'm just giving you the real world comparisons. If you feel you need to stuff the sock to make you feel better about Apple, then I guess that's your choice.
Dell gives you multiple options and ability to custom configure, plus there are a variety of discounts.
Dell Inspiron E1405 WXGA screen(as opposed to the WXGA+ upgrade) Core Duo 1.83 512 Megs RAM 60 Gig HD (The MacBook comes with a 60 gig, not 80) Intel 3945 802.11/a/b/g card Bluetooth 1 Year Warranty
$1037 - $300 coupon = $737
Is it good enough to have RCS in place? Do we need to have a requirement tied to every change made to the source? What do we need at a minimum?
How long do we have to retain this information? 5 years? 20 years?
It sounds simple on paper, and I agree that at a minimum it does force you to be able to understand what you have where and how it got there. But it's the little specifics that cause all the problems.
I've had a lot of managers say we have to do such and such for SOX compliance. When I inquire as to more detail... Like what exactly, so I can make sure the solution fits within the requirements. I get blank stares.
That's a large part of the cost. The law itself is not a bad idea. It's just nobody knows how to comply.
Since I've got you why you are here, what action are you taking to remove the laundry list of Democratic "hate sites"? Certainly, some of those sites you've removed may even take a militant stance against islamic oppression, but many of these democratic sites take an equally militant stance against Americans.
Uh huh.
You know it's interesting. A few years ago Republicans used to complain about things being labeled "hate speech", now they're more than happy to toss the claim around like candy in a parade. My guess is that you realized it was pointless to try to convince people that claiming "blacks should be happy for slavery, because it allowed them to come to America", wasn't winning any friends, so it was easier to just launch attacks at the opposition speech.
I'm not familiar with any Democratic "hate sites". I'm familiar with some democratic group blogs, and I know for a fact that the proprietors requested to google news that their sites not be aggragated, because it's not news and presumably they weren't desperate for extra traffic.
There artickle may not be something you or I would not read, but that doesn't mean they should be treated with special treatment.
If you want to read the site, you are more than welcome to do so. Nobody has taken their site off line. So there is no censorship here, or even anything remotely similar to censorship.
It's you who is demanding MichNews be given special treatment, by giving them the same validity in searches as BBC, CNN or any other credible news organization.
You say that now, but if it were to actually happen to you I very much doubt that you'd rather die than be dependent on that drug.
Who are you to decide?
My God, are we all going to have to get tatoos which say 'Do Not Resuscitate' to keep you busy bodies out of our lives?
If God decides that a person is to die, but we have the medical technology to prevent that from happening, what is more moral?
Is it moral to undermine the Will of God?
BTW, this op-ed was interesting.
This comment in particular... Her greatest worry, she says, is what she calls "the liberal betrayal" -- the failure of the West to defend its own liberal democratic values against those who would destroy them.
I agree with that. It's one of my complaints against the Bush Administration. That they are refusing to defending democratic values, and instead appear to be doing everything they can to give ammunition to those who oppose democratic values.
Interesting.
Hmm, didn't even know who this woman was... So I did a search, and found a bunch of articles on google news with titles like "World's press slams Dutch over Hirsi Ali"
Brings a certain Irony to your argument.
Power Line, Wonkette, Polipundit, Infoshop, and antiwar.com are indexed on Google news.
They shouldn't be.
but of course, that does not apply to the Christian religion in this case, does it?).
Oh man, why do you guys always have to start sounding like the Mullahs of Iran and make me not like you?
Let's not even begin to talk about cases where Google has been discovered to editorialize news headlines, such as removing the word "alleged" from a headline describing Guantanamo Bay as a "torture camp".
Oh, you poor poor victim. I feel so sorry for you, walking around thinking everybody is out to get you.
If you go down towards the bottom there's a FAQ and they have a link for you to tell them ways to improve google news.
These sites all get recommended to them, and my guess is google doesn't actually go read the content before just putting them in the list.
Although, in honestly. The Spoof and The Onion clearly label themselves as satire, so google can report on them correctly. WND, newsmax, Michnews and such don't properly label themselves as spoofs, on the other hand, even though they are clearly not serious.
I complained to google news about 2 years ago about MichNews, pointing out that it wasn't news at all but an opinion blog.
When you read shit like this(which is a random article just off the front page representative of their thought), you just really have to question the sanity of not just the publishers of the site, but the readers as well. Yet nobody is stopping any of these moonbats from reading the site. They just aren't getting the free advertising that google news provides.
This complaint is what you call whining. If you think there are other sites aggragated which aren't news, you can complain to google about them. Obviously if they receive enough complaints they'll yank them.
I use Word on four computers, and I haven't seen this infection.
Hmm, maybe because unlike in biology, we can easily fix computers without years of clinical trials. and research studies.
I got Vonage in early 2005, and they were going to give me a $50 rebate if I bought the phone adapter at Best Buy.
Sent the rebate in, making sure to copy all of my forms.
A few months later I get a letter saying I forgot to write the MAC address on the form.
Send in a photo copy of my copies, along with a letter giving them the details.
No $50.
I was debating buying into the IPO, but I guess since I'm not a happy customer I'm not sure I trust them.
This is called, "moving goal posts."
No, it's called trying to bring sanity to a bunch of mac zealots justifying their zealotry.
it was a wasted effort on my part and I apologize. People who buy Apple products will continue to buy Apple products even if they are priced twice as expensive, such as the MacBook Pro. There's nothing wrong with that, since it's not my money.
I first saw the phrase Post-PC back in 1998. This was after the Palm came out, and Infoworld dittoheads were declaring that with PDAs, nobody really needed a PC any more.
You're right. It's mindless punditry. It's like declaring the invention of the airplane as the post-automobile era, not realizing that the devices complement one another.
A differentiator is a significant difference. Thanks for conceding the point.
Huh? A differentiator is something which makes a product unique or different, to differentiate it from the competition. It's something which if it has it, you may consider it signifigant... or you may not care at all.
For example. BMW 3-series cars for 2006 all have run-flat tires on them. Does that mean if we are to compare it to an Audi we must equip it with run-flat tires even if it doesn't come as a factory option?
It depends upon the individual needs. Thanks for conceding another point.
Whoa, you're really reaching here, considering that has been my point all along.
Yes, just as Dell decided to include a modem. Each is something that cost money and was included by one vendor and not the other. Whether we care which we have or whether we ever expect to use either the optical drive or the modem is irrelevant for purposes of comparing the relative costs of the machines and their hardware.
Exactly, which is why we shouldn't even try to equip both computers identically. I don't have any need for a modem as I use bluetooth from my cell, so it's nice that Apple has gone this direction.
In this day and age a modem is a differentiator, not an essential feature.
I'll take that to mean you don't know if you can use it this way under Windows with the available drivers and this hardware, otherwise point me to a link bright boy.
No, that was clearly an insult.
This is the logical fallacy of, "ad hominem attack," thanks for playing.
Technically that's not ad hominem.
Consumer Reports just isn't a reliable source. It's better than being ignorant, I suppose. But if you have any knowledge on a given topic and then read their reviews you'd understand they aren't experts. Plus their surveys are self-selecting, not random. That is, they don't do a valid random sampling, but rely upon people sending in their opinions freely. As such, it self-selects to fan boy syndrome. Has been this way with their car reviews, so I don't expect it to be different with computers.
Either go back to believing whatever you heard somewhere in marketing materials, or sit down and read a book on logic and critical thinking. Then do a little research and base your opinion on that research, not on what facts you can find to support the opinion you already made.
This is what we on the internets call projection, Mac fan boi.
In addition to my own personal experience, I have some pretty good statistical evidence to back up my purchasing decisions. What exactly do you have again?
My buttometer, which I must say is more accurate than your psuedo-scientific analysis if you think Sony and IBM makes better computers than Dell.
...ummm, you don't consider an entire suite of very well regarded programs including a video editing package, DVD creation/burning software (including licensing), music mixing software, etc. to be a major feature? Well, it is to a lot of people.
...only if it is supported in the OS. Is it? Can you find this functionality detailed anywhere for the Dell or any other Windows PC, because I haven't. If so, what resolutions of external monitors will it support?
No. I consider it a differentiater.
That all depends upon your intended uses. It is very critical if you are using them in a corporate network. That is why we don't judge the importance of features, only the cost.
Obviously it depends on the individual needs, but they aren't critical. We could just as easily say that in order to maintain comparability we need to include XP Pro in the price of the MacBook. But again, that's rather pointless.
They are more desirable to you, but that is not an objective measure. I happen to disagree. More importantly, however, the slot loading drives are more expensive to purchase, which is what concerns us.
Well that was a choice Apple made. If it's important to you, then it's a differentiating factor. But it's not a factor of comparability because it's not important to most people.
You're shitting me. You think Apple invented this? Christ, you are a Apple fan boi.
Consumer reports is one of the very few product review companies that does not take special donations and other favors from the companies it reviews. It buys them all retail,
I know who consumer reports is. If you did, you wouldn't put so much faith in them.
This is pretty widely known industry knowledge.
Right, just like your consumer reports as a reliable source. LOL!
Maybe you're not clear on what "logic" is. It is not agreeing with whatever marketing hype is loudest. It is objectively looking at collected facts and making a decision based upon them.
Ok fan boi. Whatever.
If a Mac Mini fits your needs... then you can find machines from Dell which are more suitable for your needs than a Dual Xeon Desktop. Or vice versa, if you need the Dual Xeon, then you need to be looking at more powerful machines from Apple.
The point being, the lack of one single feature does not immediately discount the comparison.
See - this is why people compare things that are as identical as possible. The more variables you change, the less apt your comparison is.
No, what I've noticed is that Apple people want to load up the Dell with crap that is what makes Apple unique, but not vice versa. I don't see them demanding the Apple be compared with a Word Processor tacked on, or a copy of XP Pro and Boot Camp... because you know, you have to make them comparable.
Apple knew this reality of comparisons when they switched over to the Intel chipset, which is why they've decided to not compete on cost, but rather little extra features which may make the machine appealing to some. Just as I drive a BMW and not a Chevy.
I was just responding to the stupid comparison on price, which was clearly wrong. I'm sorry that you guys are not willing to recognize reality, and decide to attack anybody who points out the Apple still costs more.
Yes, there certainly is a point. We're not trying to find the cheapest machine that will do some specific (but undefined) set of tasks, we're trying to compare as closely as possible the pricing of the same hardware from different vendors. Otherwise I could just as easily say, I always use my laptop at home with an external monitor, so I can just pay $150 for a used laptop with a broken LCD and it beats them both for price. The point is to make them as close as possible.
Certainly, but just because the Dell comes with Solitaire doesn't mean the apple has to. Which is why we look at the major specs... CPU, harddrive, memory, screen, size and weight, etc.
This is not true. It also restricts the multiprocessing algorithm, access controls, remote desktop server, offline copies of network files, and the built-in encryption features.
Uhh, hardly critical issues. XP Home supports only a single physical processor, but certainly supports dual core. Access controls and offline copies of network files are only an issue in a domain environment. Remote connections appear available within MCE. Encryption is another domain only solution, because of the way it is implemented.
Sorry, but like it or not, Apple includes software that provides a wide range of common functionality that is not provided by software included with Dells. That software has a lot of value to a lot of people. Remember we're trying to get as close of a match as possible here.
Perhaps. But isn't it curious how they give you iLife for free and charge you for iWork... but the Dell gives you a free word processor? Are you going to add $79 to the price of the MacBook to make up for this definciency?
My first laptop with one is about four years old, and has not had any problems with it, despite regular use and lots of banging around in bags. (it was actually a refurb too, so the drive may be older than that.) I know this is anecdotal, but no more so than your comment.
Certainly. But I've had numerous desktops with these. For a while that is what compaq was shipping, also one of the first CDROM drives I bought was an NEC changer. The drawers are more desirable.
They don't mention it in their literature and none of the Dell or IBM laptops here support it. Do you have any evidence that it does support monitor spanning (not just mirroring)?
It's a function of the video card, and they both come with the Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 950. I can't say I've ever used the intel integrated in that fashion, as I've always had ATI chips in my laptops. But sheesh, I mean get real.
You laugh at my comments about reliability and support. Fine. My source is consumer reports, which issues a review every year and which is both independent and well regarded.
LOL! Consumer Reports. LOL!
Do you have a credible source that contradicts it? For that matter, most all of the studies I've seen as well as my own personal anecdotal evidence agree.
Yeah, my personal anecdotal evidence overwhelms yours. I'm not an Apple fan boy, and certainly have no loyalty to Dell. I'll trash any product which doesn't meet my needs, no matter who it is from.
But to claim Dell is the worst in the industry eludes logic.
You're right. I was off at $800... It's really $737. Did you factor in the coupon? $1037-300 = $737.
I actually came up with $1037 by adding in the Intel wireless card, as it's better than the Dell one. Maybe some people would prefer a remote.
And also, for a really good comparison you need to look at the SAME size screen, and make sure the weight and battery life are similar.
Not really. The only comparison that's important is that the machine fits YOUR needs. That's the only thing that matters in the end.
Configuring the same system though, I get $866 (with the remote control and backup CD needed to match the macbook specs).
If I don't need it, I don't need it. There's no point in trying to match specs, because the Dell is going to have stuff that Apple does not have and vice versa. It's what makes the machines unique to one another.
I'm also not sure Media-Center or Home versions of XP are a fair trade for OS X. They are crippleware versions of the desktop OS, unlike OS X which has no such restrictions.
Again, if you don't need it, you don't need it. If you do you do. XP Home only lacks ability to add to a domain, and install the IIS tools. The ability to join a domain, and install MSMQ client is going to be critical for a corporate user, but probably not a home user/student.
As for included software, I don't see an option to add the equivalent of iLife. It also looks like there is no option to add a built in Webcam.
This is the crap that makes Apple unique. For the other 95% of us who don't need it, what's the point? It's like complaining that OS-X doesn't include Solitaire.
Also the cool power connector is a plus for some of us as is the slot drive, rather than a tray.
Interesting. I didn't notice the slot load drive. Nice in that you can't break it off. Kind of a negative in that slot drives tend to accumulate gunk, especially in a laptop which you're moving around a lot. Not sure if that's a good or bad thing.
The ability to do monitor spanning is also a huge plus, which I think is not an option for the Dell.
Why would you think that? Are you just trying to demonstrate your lack of knowledge?
Dell sells some of the cheapest, least reliable hardware in the business, with mediocre to poor rated customer support.
BWAAA HAHAHAHAAA!
Comparatively, Apple rates as some of the most reliable hardware in the industry, with the highest rated customer support of the big 8, for many years running.
LOL!
That was with the 1.83 Ghz Core Duo.
And why do I need XP Pro? Pro gives you IIS, which is no longer necessary with VS.NET 2005 and it's use of Cassini, and the ability to join a Domain which is only necessary if you are talking about a business laptop.
I'm just giving you the real world comparisons. If you feel you need to stuff the sock to make you feel better about Apple, then I guess that's your choice.
Dell gives you multiple options and ability to custom configure, plus there are a variety of discounts.
Dell Inspiron E1405
WXGA screen(as opposed to the WXGA+ upgrade)
Core Duo 1.83
512 Megs RAM
60 Gig HD (The MacBook comes with a 60 gig, not 80)
Intel 3945 802.11/a/b/g card
Bluetooth
1 Year Warranty
$1037
- $300 coupon
= $737
The only comparable performance/form factor laptops I can find after a cursory search are $1700+ VAIOs, so the price point is pretty great too.
You can get a similarly equipped Dell E1405 for about $800. The only thing missing is a webcam, but an USB webcam would cost you $25.
But then, when I was in college... I bought Levi Jeans. Some students can afford to spend twice as much for designer labels.
How does SOX apply to source control systems?
At a minimum what do we need in place?
Is it good enough to have RCS in place? Do we need to have a requirement tied to every change made to the source? What do we need at a minimum?
How long do we have to retain this information? 5 years? 20 years?
It sounds simple on paper, and I agree that at a minimum it does force you to be able to understand what you have where and how it got there. But it's the little specifics that cause all the problems.
Nobody knows what Sarbanes-Oxley means...
I've had a lot of managers say we have to do such and such for SOX compliance. When I inquire as to more detail... Like what exactly, so I can make sure the solution fits within the requirements. I get blank stares.
That's a large part of the cost. The law itself is not a bad idea. It's just nobody knows how to comply.