Obama won the nomination because he won every state that had a large black population, and they overwhelmingly voted for him, and then, he split the white vote with Hillary.
I'm from Minnesota where our 95% white population went overwhelmingly for Obama.
Your comment was not just disrespectful, it was factually wrong. You say things like that, you aren't being insightful, you are being an ignorant jackass.
Following up on my "Learning from DailyKos" post, this is a perfect example.
DKos has been none too kind to Hillary supporters, and the general tone there towards them is one of incredible condescension at best, and mouth-frothing vitriol at worst.
Hillary Clinton supporters were some of the most rude, arrogant, obnoxious asshats I've ever seen. It was pretty bad in 2004, but maybe it's because it went on this long that it really brought the worst out of people.
They'd come in there all insulting, and then be SHOCKED! absolutely SHOCKED that they were not positively received.
Most of those Clinton supporters I saw were new to politics or they had not been around very long, or if they had, they were not people who had learned how to be respectful. Like Larry Johnson over at No Quarter. His early diaries on Plame were well received, even if he was just spewing bullshit because it was what some people wanted to hear. Later on though when he kept spewing the same level of bullshit, but this time inserted into a primary race, he got slammed and he cried about it.
I won't say what userid I use at the Great Orange Satan, actually it's been several over the years, but there is actually a lot to learn from dailyKos, especially for a staunch Democrat who believes in Obama's message. Yes, there are people on the site who are extreme, but most are not. In the 5 years I've been reading/posting, I'd actually say most of the really extreme people get banned eventually. Even so, commenting there will teach you something. It will teach you how to respectfully disagree with others. You may not see it that way, but really that is how it works.
What I've learned over the years, is that you generally don't attract the worst commentors, unless you yourself are behaving badly. You may not even realize it, but it's possible that you sound like Joe Lieberman. "Oh, you are all extremists, and oh so stupid, if only I am smart! David Broder agrees with me, and you are extremists because you don't see my brilliance!" By watching what you post, and how you are responded to, you really learn a lot. It's a very good experience.
I used to be a Republican until the party abandoned American principles and values. I'm a moderate/centrist/squishy middle type Democrat, but I have absolutely no problem commenting on dailyKos and being received positively. That didn't used to be the case. It took me a while to understand, and I got beat up for it at first.
It's a great learning experience. Part of the learning experience is actually understanding that the way the media presents things is not reasonable or respectful. This is why the McCain people will be ripped to shreds, because they don't know how to disagree reasonably. Calling someone an appeaser, or a terrorist lover is not being reasonable, despite how our media portrays it.
Shoot me an email at ssheldon at sodablue dot org though, and I'll be happy to critique any comments you see there that are not being well received and explain why. Yours, anybodies. Back when I was a trusted user, I would sometimes respond to comments that were getting troll rated explaining what they were doing wrong. I don't read the site as much lately though, so I lost that power, but still...
I bought mine locally at Target Commercial Interiors for about $650. I hope they're still around, as the idea of a discounter selling office furniture is very appealing.:-)
But when you were saying it 20 years ago, you didn't really know why. You just "knew" they were biased because your conservative buddies told you so. And it probably had something to do with an Editorial page thing titled "Nixon should resign", which is hardly reporting but opinion. Not that conservatives can tell the difference between the two.
The social conservatives are kind of confused right now. The Schiavo thing didn't go as they planned, and it put them up against the rest of the party. On top of that the revelations from Abramhoff/Reed scam, along with the total rejection of Huckabee have them kind of cynical. On top of that the death of Jerry Falwell, and the fact that the younger generation is more concerned about the environment and AIDS then they are abortion and homosexuals, leaves them not totally unified.
I'm not certain social conservatives are going to be as effective a voting block for the GOP as they once were.
The lobbyists puppets got their asses handed to them after Abramhoff in the 2006 elections, but they could still use some more wing clipping.
The the wallstreet chatter class had their hopes in Romney, and he largely disappointed. Many of them will back McCain regardless. However, a large portion of Wallstreet is looking back at what Bush has wrought and thinking maybe Republicans aren't so good for business. They'd been looking towards Clinton as their preference, but I suspect Obama can pick them up. (Obama has been endorsed by Warren Buffet, and Paul Voelcker, along with other Fed bankers, economists, and business owners)
And that leaves the warmongers, aka neocons, aka Billy Kristol and his merry band. They are 100% solidly behind McCain. They supported McCain back in 2000 before it was obvious Bush would win so it's not surprising. They're really the only advisors he has, and that's why his campaign consists entirely of claiming Obama is insane for wanting to go back to the Eisenhower/Truman mode of diplomacy.
When they lose, they're going to start blaming each other. The warmongers are going to blame the social conservatives for the nasty environment they're running in. The social conservatives will blame the warmongers. The wealthy will blame the other two. It'll be a slaughterhouse.
Hard to say will then happen. If you look at history, these groups have been around a long time. The religious conservatives are responsible for prohibition and then later our welfare programs. They go back and forth between the two parties. Just like the neocons started out back with Roosevelt, championing aggression against the Nazis, and then Vietnam, and then they were ousted and Reagan picked them up. The wealthy is perhaps the only consistent with the Republican party, dating back to the Whiggs.
However, in the meantime, the losers are feeling like cornerd Badgers, and they're going to lash out with anything they have. This election season is going to be NASTY! nastier then any other. This is what makes Obama so interesting, as he embraces the nastiness of others and it makes him stronger.
I may have misremembered exactly what it was they did. But you may be right, that really they were just introducing some more up to date patterns.
Really the problem was my father heard the term OOP, and immediately jumped to a different conclusion. He admitted as much to the group later after he saw what they were doing.
My father, just before he retired, got into a big argument with the kids. They had an embedded system, 32K onboard memory, everything was written in straight C.
The kids wanted to do OOP. My father felt there wasn't enough memory to do this effectively and it was foolish.
The reality was, that the kids just wanted to pretend they were doing OOP. They still used straight C, they just created structs and organized functions in files as if they were classes. It was actually rather clever and made it easier to maintain.
It's hard as you get older, I think, you hear about some new idea as the silver bullet and your immediate reaction is negative because you've heard this so many times before. But you have to have an open mind, and watch and see what is happening.
The example of the screwdriver has a different lesson. The primary reason why people round out screws and especially their screwdrivers is because they are using the wrong sized screwdriver. You could use a carbon hardened steel super titanium bit, and if you use a smaller driver than what the screw needs... you're going to make a mess of things.
The lesson is using the right tool for the right job.
I build my own computers. I do so because I wish to select quality parts which I know are going to work well for my needs.
I agree with you that every time I have purchased something throw away cheap, that is exactly what I did with it. Throw it away. Sometimes though you want that, as you may only need it for a single purpose, or you may not have enough information to know what you really want.
And sometimes it's worth buying something cheaper to start with to learn with.
That's what you do with motorcycles. You start with a 250cc, then move to a 650cc when you feel more confident, and then maybe later get something bigger and better if you want it. If you start with a big Harley cruiser... you are not going to know how to handle it, and you're going to hate it. It's the reason why you see a lot of these big cruiser bikes on the used market with low mileage. People buy something expensive, not knowing what they're getting into, and then regret it because they never use it.
Then again the woman in question _CANNOT_ be allowed to get away with what she's done.
Which is why prosecutors use a related law applicable to something she did in the commission of the original sin. Al Capone was brought down on tax evasion charges, because they couldn't get anything else to stick. In this case they'll get her for abuse of computing facilities or mail fraud or something stupid.
Just to make the point.
And frankly, this woman deserves a bit of time in jail doing hard labor. I could have understood it if a teenager did this alone, but the fact that the mother got involved shows extreme lack of judgement. A mother is supposed to say to their child "let it go", not egg the whole thing on further.
Agreed. The one picture with the rows and rows of computers appears to be the Hands-on lab at TechEd.
I'm not impressed with either of these articles. My preferred environment is someplace clean and uncluttered. Yet valleywag called the offices with gimmicks the best, and the nice clean offices the worst?
I wish I had a picture of the "office" I and six other consultants were put in years ago. It was the former mainframe tape storage closet. No windows. Six feet wide, with a table along the wall. When the guy at the end wanted to go to the bathroom, everybody had to get up and let him through.
This is fascinating, as archiving emails has been a fundamental requirement for the financial services industry for years. We use EMC Legato. It has hooks into all sorts of systems. Exchange, or even messages sent through bloomberg terminals.
I'm certain there are at least a dozen companies offering similar solutions. This is a purchase order and maybe a few months of consulting time.
I thought Bush was going to run the government like a business. The first MBA President, blah blah blah.
How is it that his idea of business looks more like an Organized Crime Syndicate?
I guess my advice would be if you have a bizarre hobby of taking the front seat out of your car, throwing it and the carpet away and then hosing the whole car down.
Make sure you don't do it the day after your wife has died.
It's amazing how people's biases show up. This kid is claiming the media is anti-war, and he knows this because his buddies told him so.
For the rest of the country, they're baffled as to why the media never allowed anybody on the air who questioned the war, up until maybe the last year or so.
You know, I keep hearing these claims about how Microsoft's reputation is dying.
But this month, Microsoft had a rollout even for Visual Studio 2008, and for the first time I can remember, it sold out and I couldn't get in. Now I probably could have contacted some friends at the local Microsoft office if i had really wanted to go, but I still found this rather surprising.
Yeah. A real problem is major power glitches, brownouts, dropouts, spikes and such. A surge protector will protect your equipment from the worst of it, the stuff that'll just come right up and fry components.
A UPS will protect you from the brownouts and losing power.
But in terms of noise... The power supply of the component is going to address that. Modern switching power supplies used in electronics are pretty damn good at providing flat DC current. Yeah, voltage may fluctuate a bit, but whatever.
The amplifiers, though, still use the old style design of a transformer with a mass of copper wiring, a bridge rectifier and some massive capacitors. Solely because of power drain, an amp needs to be able to call up the Amps. This is all part of the dynamic range of the amp. My Rotel has a massive toroidal transformer, but even my Denon has a good sized mass of copper.
I just always get a laugh out of the people claiming they put a power filter on their TV and suddenly the colors were more vibrant.
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You forgot to mention that Obama supporters are part of a cult.
I mean, while you are throwing insults and everything...
As opposed to 100-years war McCain?
At least McCain really said he was ok with being in Iraq for 100 years. Nobody had to make that one up.
I'd sure love to see the source for your numbers.
All you are doing is repeating the bullshit theme spun by the media. It's not insight, it's just plain ignorance.
I would suggest you put TPM in your daily reading list.
I'm from Minnesota where our 95% white population went overwhelmingly for Obama.
Your comment was not just disrespectful, it was factually wrong. You say things like that, you aren't being insightful, you are being an ignorant jackass.
Hillary Clinton supporters were some of the most rude, arrogant, obnoxious asshats I've ever seen. It was pretty bad in 2004, but maybe it's because it went on this long that it really brought the worst out of people.
They'd come in there all insulting, and then be SHOCKED! absolutely SHOCKED that they were not positively received.
Most of those Clinton supporters I saw were new to politics or they had not been around very long, or if they had, they were not people who had learned how to be respectful. Like Larry Johnson over at No Quarter. His early diaries on Plame were well received, even if he was just spewing bullshit because it was what some people wanted to hear. Later on though when he kept spewing the same level of bullshit, but this time inserted into a primary race, he got slammed and he cried about it.
I won't say what userid I use at the Great Orange Satan, actually it's been several over the years, but there is actually a lot to learn from dailyKos, especially for a staunch Democrat who believes in Obama's message. Yes, there are people on the site who are extreme, but most are not. In the 5 years I've been reading/posting, I'd actually say most of the really extreme people get banned eventually. Even so, commenting there will teach you something. It will teach you how to respectfully disagree with others. You may not see it that way, but really that is how it works.
What I've learned over the years, is that you generally don't attract the worst commentors, unless you yourself are behaving badly. You may not even realize it, but it's possible that you sound like Joe Lieberman. "Oh, you are all extremists, and oh so stupid, if only I am smart! David Broder agrees with me, and you are extremists because you don't see my brilliance!" By watching what you post, and how you are responded to, you really learn a lot. It's a very good experience.
I used to be a Republican until the party abandoned American principles and values. I'm a moderate/centrist/squishy middle type Democrat, but I have absolutely no problem commenting on dailyKos and being received positively. That didn't used to be the case. It took me a while to understand, and I got beat up for it at first.
It's a great learning experience. Part of the learning experience is actually understanding that the way the media presents things is not reasonable or respectful. This is why the McCain people will be ripped to shreds, because they don't know how to disagree reasonably. Calling someone an appeaser, or a terrorist lover is not being reasonable, despite how our media portrays it.
Shoot me an email at ssheldon at sodablue dot org though, and I'll be happy to critique any comments you see there that are not being well received and explain why. Yours, anybodies. Back when I was a trusted user, I would sometimes respond to comments that were getting troll rated explaining what they were doing wrong. I don't read the site as much lately though, so I lost that power, but still...
+1 for the Steelcase Leap
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I bought mine locally at Target Commercial Interiors for about $650. I hope they're still around, as the idea of a discounter selling office furniture is very appealing.
But when you were saying it 20 years ago, you didn't really know why. You just "knew" they were biased because your conservative buddies told you so. And it probably had something to do with an Editorial page thing titled "Nixon should resign", which is hardly reporting but opinion. Not that conservatives can tell the difference between the two.
The social conservatives are kind of confused right now. The Schiavo thing didn't go as they planned, and it put them up against the rest of the party. On top of that the revelations from Abramhoff/Reed scam, along with the total rejection of Huckabee have them kind of cynical. On top of that the death of Jerry Falwell, and the fact that the younger generation is more concerned about the environment and AIDS then they are abortion and homosexuals, leaves them not totally unified.
I'm not certain social conservatives are going to be as effective a voting block for the GOP as they once were.
The lobbyists puppets got their asses handed to them after Abramhoff in the 2006 elections, but they could still use some more wing clipping.
The the wallstreet chatter class had their hopes in Romney, and he largely disappointed. Many of them will back McCain regardless. However, a large portion of Wallstreet is looking back at what Bush has wrought and thinking maybe Republicans aren't so good for business. They'd been looking towards Clinton as their preference, but I suspect Obama can pick them up. (Obama has been endorsed by Warren Buffet, and Paul Voelcker, along with other Fed bankers, economists, and business owners)
And that leaves the warmongers, aka neocons, aka Billy Kristol and his merry band. They are 100% solidly behind McCain. They supported McCain back in 2000 before it was obvious Bush would win so it's not surprising. They're really the only advisors he has, and that's why his campaign consists entirely of claiming Obama is insane for wanting to go back to the Eisenhower/Truman mode of diplomacy.
When they lose, they're going to start blaming each other. The warmongers are going to blame the social conservatives for the nasty environment they're running in. The social conservatives will blame the warmongers. The wealthy will blame the other two. It'll be a slaughterhouse.
Hard to say will then happen. If you look at history, these groups have been around a long time. The religious conservatives are responsible for prohibition and then later our welfare programs. They go back and forth between the two parties. Just like the neocons started out back with Roosevelt, championing aggression against the Nazis, and then Vietnam, and then they were ousted and Reagan picked them up. The wealthy is perhaps the only consistent with the Republican party, dating back to the Whiggs.
However, in the meantime, the losers are feeling like cornerd Badgers, and they're going to lash out with anything they have. This election season is going to be NASTY! nastier then any other. This is what makes Obama so interesting, as he embraces the nastiness of others and it makes him stronger.
I may have misremembered exactly what it was they did. But you may be right, that really they were just introducing some more up to date patterns.
Really the problem was my father heard the term OOP, and immediately jumped to a different conclusion. He admitted as much to the group later after he saw what they were doing.
My father, just before he retired, got into a big argument with the kids. They had an embedded system, 32K onboard memory, everything was written in straight C.
The kids wanted to do OOP. My father felt there wasn't enough memory to do this effectively and it was foolish.
The reality was, that the kids just wanted to pretend they were doing OOP. They still used straight C, they just created structs and organized functions in files as if they were classes. It was actually rather clever and made it easier to maintain.
It's hard as you get older, I think, you hear about some new idea as the silver bullet and your immediate reaction is negative because you've heard this so many times before. But you have to have an open mind, and watch and see what is happening.
Otherwise you'll end up as a COBOL developer.
Whoa, I've sold a house or two before and my Realtor never did any of that.
They came out, looked around and gave me a list of shit they thought I should do. I'm totally fine with that, and I appreciate the advice.
I just think that advice is worth a flat-rate $3k... not 3% of the sales price.
The example of the screwdriver has a different lesson. The primary reason why people round out screws and especially their screwdrivers is because they are using the wrong sized screwdriver. You could use a carbon hardened steel super titanium bit, and if you use a smaller driver than what the screw needs... you're going to make a mess of things.
The lesson is using the right tool for the right job.
I build my own computers. I do so because I wish to select quality parts which I know are going to work well for my needs.
I agree with you that every time I have purchased something throw away cheap, that is exactly what I did with it. Throw it away. Sometimes though you want that, as you may only need it for a single purpose, or you may not have enough information to know what you really want.
And sometimes it's worth buying something cheaper to start with to learn with.
That's what you do with motorcycles. You start with a 250cc, then move to a 650cc when you feel more confident, and then maybe later get something bigger and better if you want it. If you start with a big Harley cruiser... you are not going to know how to handle it, and you're going to hate it. It's the reason why you see a lot of these big cruiser bikes on the used market with low mileage. People buy something expensive, not knowing what they're getting into, and then regret it because they never use it.
Which is why prosecutors use a related law applicable to something she did in the commission of the original sin. Al Capone was brought down on tax evasion charges, because they couldn't get anything else to stick. In this case they'll get her for abuse of computing facilities or mail fraud or something stupid.
Just to make the point.
And frankly, this woman deserves a bit of time in jail doing hard labor. I could have understood it if a teenager did this alone, but the fact that the mother got involved shows extreme lack of judgement. A mother is supposed to say to their child "let it go", not egg the whole thing on further.
Agreed. The one picture with the rows and rows of computers appears to be the Hands-on lab at TechEd.
I'm not impressed with either of these articles. My preferred environment is someplace clean and uncluttered. Yet valleywag called the offices with gimmicks the best, and the nice clean offices the worst?
I wish I had a picture of the "office" I and six other consultants were put in years ago. It was the former mainframe tape storage closet. No windows. Six feet wide, with a table along the wall. When the guy at the end wanted to go to the bathroom, everybody had to get up and let him through.
This is fascinating, as archiving emails has been a fundamental requirement for the financial services industry for years. We use EMC Legato. It has hooks into all sorts of systems. Exchange, or even messages sent through bloomberg terminals.
I'm certain there are at least a dozen companies offering similar solutions. This is a purchase order and maybe a few months of consulting time.
I thought Bush was going to run the government like a business. The first MBA President, blah blah blah.
How is it that his idea of business looks more like an Organized Crime Syndicate?
I guess my advice would be if you have a bizarre hobby of taking the front seat out of your car, throwing it and the carpet away and then hosing the whole car down.
Make sure you don't do it the day after your wife has died.
If you want to provide some evidence to support you claim that the media is anti-war, be my guest.
People don't like whiners.
It's amazing how people's biases show up. This kid is claiming the media is anti-war, and he knows this because his buddies told him so.
For the rest of the country, they're baffled as to why the media never allowed anybody on the air who questioned the war, up until maybe the last year or so.
So scientists should just accept Intelligent Design and allow it to be taught in public schools, because it would show they were open minded?
You know, I keep hearing these claims about how Microsoft's reputation is dying.
But this month, Microsoft had a rollout even for Visual Studio 2008, and for the first time I can remember, it sold out and I couldn't get in. Now I probably could have contacted some friends at the local Microsoft office if i had really wanted to go, but I still found this rather surprising.
I've been going to rollouts since Windows NT 3.5.
I heard President Bush say something about Moral Relativism.
I thought it interesting in light of his support for Torture.
Yeah. A real problem is major power glitches, brownouts, dropouts, spikes and such. A surge protector will protect your equipment from the worst of it, the stuff that'll just come right up and fry components.
A UPS will protect you from the brownouts and losing power.
But in terms of noise... The power supply of the component is going to address that. Modern switching power supplies used in electronics are pretty damn good at providing flat DC current. Yeah, voltage may fluctuate a bit, but whatever.
The amplifiers, though, still use the old style design of a transformer with a mass of copper wiring, a bridge rectifier and some massive capacitors. Solely because of power drain, an amp needs to be able to call up the Amps. This is all part of the dynamic range of the amp. My Rotel has a massive toroidal transformer, but even my Denon has a good sized mass of copper.
I just always get a laugh out of the people claiming they put a power filter on their TV and suddenly the colors were more vibrant.