You don't need a linux install for just displaying a message. With grub or lilo, you could supply a nice bootscreen with a message, but without boot options.
Old 486 machines, laptops and dual CPU servers are sometimes running Quake III for days and days. All this to be sure that things don't crash due to a faulty memory module.
Or maybe you mean like Galeon [sf.net] for those with Gnome. Or maybe Skipstone which is just GTK+ based? Or K-meleon [sourceforge.net] if you are on Windows? There are projects galore out there playing with the Moz codebase.
Even Mozilla uses GTK+ on linux. This is the compile message I received when trying to do a festive compile of Mozilla:
checking for GTK - version >= 1.2.0... no *** The gtk-config script installed by GTK could not be found. *** If GTK was installed in PREFIX, make sure PREFIX/bin is in *** your path, or set the GTK_CONFIG environment variable to the *** full path to gtk-config. *** GTK+ is available from ftp://ftp.gtk.org/pub/gtk configure: error: Test for GTK failed.
And this when using the options./configure --disable-toolkit-gtk --disable-gtktes. Too bad. I thought the GUI was indepenent of Qt or GTK.
But don't get me wrong. I'm very happy 1.0 is here.:-)
Did you notice the fireworks on the start page? Just hover over the parties link.
Hmm, I do admit I was outdoors yesterday, where a lot of energywaves hit my skull, but I don't think my brain is too flawed yet.
A lot of replies here talk in terms of a biology analogue. This analogues is not always true. A system such as linux is very secure, but if you mix it with an insecure system, it can be compromised more easily. See e.g. the story and discussion about the win32/linux worm.
Having a monoculture in vendor land is disastrous, but having a monoculture for your corporate network software is fine. Just make sure you buy the right software.
If CD's are too expensive, then don't buy em. Instead, buy the music you find acceptably priced. Or listen to the radio where they play music for free.
For SuSE 7.3 I know it's no fun trying to install SuSE from NFS or FTP. First of all, the distro shipped via the net is always a few months later and not complete: many 'commercial' packages like StarOffice are removed. Furthermore, intalling via FTP or NFS is very buggy. It used to work fine in the 6.x series, but in the 7.x series adding packages lateron, or updating packages, just does not work smoothly.
Also, when putting all the CD's/DVD on a harddisk and trying to install via NFS on anther computer: problems all around.
SuSE used to be my favourite distro, but since 8.0, full of bugs and without new stuff since 7.3, I like it a lot less. I'll probably try Woody when it arrives.
That is absolutely and completely untrue. Was McVoy standing behind all current free users with a gun when they chose to use BitKeeper? No. They all willingly agreed to use his license for the privilige of running his software. There's no force involved.
And what RMS is saying, is that Linus forces Linux programmers to agree to the BitKeeper license.
So? Since the Linux version is GPL, you can make your own port to Windows and Mac.
Personaly I think it's great that Qt can make money from the Windows and Mac version. The revenue from that, and the commercial licence for linux, enables them to make the GPL version in the first place.
Unless AOL really starts using Gecko or Linux becomes bit, there's no big chance of Mozilla regaining the market share Netscape lost.
It's just too easy for people to use Internet Explorer. Then there's the issue of embrace and extend: it's easy for M$ to implement the same standards as Mozilla. Then they just add a few new features that are not in the standards, but in all the tools to make webpages M$ sells. And people will feel obliged to use IE.
A few things could help (highly theoretical): lawsuits, ranting users, OSS breakthrough.
Well, here in the Netherlands, the advertisent blocks are very well synchronized. So here the zero sum model works.
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The human brain takes about a decade to boot. Everything that happens to it in that decade affects it's performance. Not a very good example for computing.
I'd never buy one of those for production, maybe for fun.
e) Free program (software) is any which use gives the user, without an additional price, the following rights:
d.1) unrestricted execution of the program for any purpose.
d.2) unrestricted access to its source code
d.3) exhaustive inspection of all internal operating mechanisms of the program. ...
Very good: patents are not allowed for government software! But, hmm, hat does rule d.3 mean?
This is also interesting: g) Open data format is any digital information coding method that meets the following conditions:
g.1) its complete technical documentation is publicly available.
g.2) the source code for at least one complete reference implementation is publicly available.
g.3) there are no restrictions for writing programs that store, transmit, receive or access data codified this way.
So a standard is not an open format until there is an open source implementation. This means a lot of the stuff by w3.org is not an open format!
I like Opera too, but my bank's website renders horribly with it. Also there is _no_ browser that runs on Linux that can be used for online banking with their site even though it uses only html+javascript.
Sending the bank emails does not help. I don't really want to switch banks because other than this web problem, it's ok.
So here another <PLUG>: Please Slashdotters, visit this site to put some browsers other than IE in their logs. This might make them sit up and listen to the consumers.
Slashdot Mirror
Just give 'em the penny.
You'll be using euros before long.
You don't need a linux install for just displaying a message. With grub or lilo, you could supply a nice bootscreen with a message, but without boot options.
from the article:
:^p
Old 486 machines, laptops and dual CPU servers are sometimes running Quake III for days and days. All this to be sure that things don't crash due to a faulty memory module.
Do they have job openings?
Or maybe you mean like Galeon [sf.net] for those with Gnome. Or maybe Skipstone which is just GTK+ based? Or K-meleon [sourceforge.net] if you are on Windows? There are projects galore out there playing with the Moz codebase.
Even Mozilla uses GTK+ on linux. This is the compile message I received when trying to do a festive compile of Mozilla:
checking for GTK - version >= 1.2.0... no
*** The gtk-config script installed by GTK could not be found.
*** If GTK was installed in PREFIX, make sure PREFIX/bin is in
*** your path, or set the GTK_CONFIG environment variable to the
*** full path to gtk-config.
*** GTK+ is available from ftp://ftp.gtk.org/pub/gtk
configure: error: Test for GTK failed.
And this when using the options
But don't get me wrong. I'm very happy 1.0 is here.
Did you notice the fireworks on the start page?
Just hover over the parties link.
Hmm, I do admit I was outdoors yesterday, where a lot of energywaves hit my skull, but I don't think my brain is too flawed yet.
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A lot of replies here talk in terms of a biology analogue. This analogues is not always true. A system such as linux is very secure, but if you mix it with an insecure system, it can be compromised more easily. See e.g. the story and discussion about the win32/linux worm
Having a monoculture in vendor land is disastrous, but having a monoculture for your corporate network software is fine. Just make sure you buy the right software.
Überlinux?
Yes, but it increases the chance of critical data being accessed.
From the article:
"We are raising computer security by avoiding a monoculture, and we are lowering dependence on a single supplier," he said in a statement.
This is not really a valid argument, since all systems need to be secure. More systems, more potentially open doors.
Nevertheless, great step up for free software!
Everything Jesus did was illegal.
As far as I know he only broke a few laws of physics. But that's ok: they hadn't been formulated yet.
If CD's are too expensive, then don't buy em. Instead, buy the music you find acceptably priced. Or listen to the radio where they play music for free.
I can't say I admire your taste: for people who don't know her, here's Heidi
Or did you modify this picture too?
(Yeah, I know this is off-topic)
For SuSE 7.3 I know it's no fun trying to install SuSE from NFS or FTP. First of all, the distro shipped via the net is always a few months later and not complete: many 'commercial' packages like StarOffice are removed.
Furthermore, intalling via FTP or NFS is very buggy. It used to work fine in the 6.x series, but in the 7.x series adding packages lateron, or updating packages, just does not work smoothly.
Also, when putting all the CD's/DVD on a harddisk and trying to install via NFS on anther computer: problems all around.
SuSE used to be my favourite distro, but since 8.0, full of bugs and without new stuff since 7.3, I like it a lot less. I'll probably try Woody when it arrives.
like this ?
Mozilla_Release_version(t)=1.0-exp(-t*num_dev)
No, in this formula the release number goes down if the number of developers decreases. And the number's continuous, which is not realistic.
Currently 37 parties listed, but many of them look awfully lonely...
Of course, you can't expect open source people to have good (expensive) food and drinks. Give me an IE party anytime. (As a compensation, of course.)
That is absolutely and completely untrue. Was McVoy standing behind all current free users with a gun when they chose to use BitKeeper? No. They all willingly agreed to use his license for the privilige of running his software. There's no force involved.
And what RMS is saying, is that Linus forces Linux programmers to agree to the BitKeeper license.
It's illegal to distribute virusses. People can go to jail for spreading them. So, why worry. We're safe.
So?
Since the Linux version is GPL, you can make your own port to Windows and Mac.
Personaly I think it's great that Qt can make money from the Windows and Mac version. The revenue from that, and the commercial licence for linux, enables them to make the GPL version in the first place.
Unless AOL really starts using Gecko or Linux becomes bit, there's no big chance of Mozilla regaining the market share Netscape lost.
It's just too easy for people to use Internet Explorer. Then there's the issue of embrace and extend: it's easy for M$ to implement the same standards as Mozilla. Then they just add a few new features that are not in the standards, but in all the tools to make webpages M$ sells. And people will feel obliged to use IE.
A few things could help (highly theoretical): lawsuits, ranting users, OSS breakthrough.
Well, here in the Netherlands, the advertisent blocks are very well synchronized. So here the zero sum model works.
The human brain takes about a decade to boot. Everything that happens to it in that decade affects it's performance. Not a very good example for computing.
I'd never buy one of those for production, maybe for fun.
e) Free program (software) is any which use gives the user, without an additional price, the following rights:
...
d.1) unrestricted execution of the program for any purpose.
d.2) unrestricted access to its source code
d.3) exhaustive inspection of all internal operating mechanisms of the program.
Very good: patents are not allowed for government software!
But, hmm, hat does rule d.3 mean?
This is also interesting:
g) Open data format is any digital information coding method that meets the following conditions:
g.1) its complete technical documentation is publicly available.
g.2) the source code for at least one complete reference implementation is publicly available.
g.3) there are no restrictions for writing programs that store, transmit, receive or access data codified this way.
So a standard is not an open format until there is an open source implementation. This means a lot of the stuff by w3.org is not an open format!
Is the text of the Bill proposed by Dr. Villanueva available on-line in English?
I'd like to see their definition of free software.
Ah, the sixth sense, great movie, unless you know the plot. Really good. You should go see it!
It worries me that a patch can be news. Microsoft really has people waiting in anxiety for a new patch to fix (and add some new) security holes.
Brr. I hate monopolies.
I going to write a letter like the Peruvian one to my government right now!
I like Opera too, but my bank's website renders horribly with it. Also there is _no_ browser that runs on Linux that can be used for online banking with their site even though it uses only html+javascript.
Sending the bank emails does not help. I don't really want to switch banks because other than this web problem, it's ok.
So here another <PLUG>:
Please Slashdotters, visit this site to put some browsers other than IE in their logs. This might make them sit up and listen to the consumers.
Thanks a lot, Jos