I am not going to sit here and tell you that Linux lacks software. Anyone who has ever browsed the Freshmeat archive knows better than to rattle something like that off.
I am going to tell you that John Q. Public who is out browsing the store shelves is going to see have his attention caught rather quickly.
Wow, there are applications for Linux?
Linux has suffered similar problems to the Macintosh: people avoid buying them because "there just isn't enough software for them." They proceed to then buy Windows boxes.
For the mainstream, the subrelease quality of most software on Freshmeat is not sufficient - and Mr. Public does not want to compile his own software. Just so long as ChilliWare produces a good product (aren't they they the ones who produce that software to run ASP on Linux - and looking at their four new products, things are looking good) this will produce many exciting benefits.
And in the long run, there's always the possibility of ChilliSoft opening its software up once they become successful. Hey, look at what Sun did with Star Office (it didn't take that long either).
Are you sure about that? I am almost certain that the machine's even had the same BIOS! I'll have to find an XE, crack it open, and get the model #'s off of the chips (then I'll repost here:).
The Nintendo Entertainment System helped make me the geek I am today. Without it, I probably would never have gained such a strong interest in technology. (Well, that and my Atari XE, a Comedore 64 clone.:-)
It's good to see that people still appreciate this very important piece of legacy hardware! Long live the NES!:-)
The reason most people will stick with 2.2 is its extreme level of maturity. I am determined to not put a 2.4 kernel on any server boxes I run (www.thesilicondragon.com). 2.2 series has already been installed, tempered, and well adapted for a variety of applications. In many cases, this makes 2.4 irrelevant. However, once we see a 2.4.(n > 10), 2.2 will likewise become irrelevant. Take a look at the Debian project. Their thinking is to use what is tried and true for the utmost. Only in Potato are they now out of the 2.0 series. It's good thinking and Linus shouldn't sound so meloncholy when he says that 2.4 won't be vastly accepted in the immediate future.:-)
The technology is not what's important here. It's the motivation behind the choice to use given technologies that really matters. To make the scene homogenious, with either Windows or RedHat Linux, causes an equal occurance of myopia. A previous poster indicated that the students should be given the right to decide on cirriculum. They have their thumbs on the heartbeats of the studies they are pursing more closely than administrators.
Now, if all of these kids are determined to go out into the world and support RedHat's potential monopoly and work for Oracle or whatever other company makes "RedHat-only" software, then this was a good move.
It'd really rock if it had a touch screen that'd allow you to finger through video, adjust settings, and so forth in such a way that you don't have to flip back to the keyboard.
I've also been hearing that along with the source being opened, Sun was going to do some major improvements to the suite just before hand. Are we seeing any radical improvement before the community gets their fingers into the development or is it entirely up to us to make an MSOffice killer?
It's very similar to what happened to cr0wbar with Safe Audit a little while ago over at detonate.net. Can these banner-ad revenue services just spontaneously decide that they're no longer going to pay web sites for hosting their banners? What's going to happen to a lot of the web sites that depend on them to pay for server space and domain names?
Investigate and remain not only wary, but lofty.
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I've worked for a few start-up computer companies, two of which have failed miserably. The third is doing very well - and it wasn't until this third time around did I learn my lesson in deciding whether or not it'd be worth my time. If you are considering working for a start-up, investigate them thoroughly!
After an interview process and they show you around, you should have the option of signing and NDA and asking to see everything they have to offer in terms of the business model, projections, staff, and organization. If a start-up has a business model that fails in general assessment in *anyway* or fails to demonstrate good long-term goals, forget about it. Also, turn the interview around from yourself to the staff. Question your projected boss. What does he/she really know? Is he/she a technical type that has a clue about what you're going to be instructed to do, or is he/she just a figure head that works as an underling for the top people, pushing employees around. Are the higher-ups well educated people that you could truly respect? What about your potential co-workers? Are there a few that are confused by constructors? Are some of them installing RedHat for the 3rd time that same day? Usually lack-luster employees shows that management just wanted to get some quick help together for practically no cost just for the sake of impressing VC's. Bad. Also, observe the office organization model. It's usually a bad sign if everyone is running around between tasks in an aimless fashion. (Yes, that's vague, let me clear it up.) If you see someone who should be writing code stapling papers together in place of an office manager, bad sign. A good start-up company should have people hired for their respective positions and not unrelated ones.
When I say that you should be lofty, you should remember that a good start-up company knows talent and will relentlessly pursue talent. Why? They know that they will only succeed if they can convince the best minds around to join their team. A start-up that is doomed to fail is one that interviews talented employees, but says, 'well, you cost too much, we can find someone cheaper.' Bad. Always remember to turn questions back at your interviewer. If they really want you and your skills, they'll put up with quite a bit.
Lastly, make sure there is a lot of work to do! A start-up company should be busting its ass to become successful and beat everyone else to the punch. They should not be chaotic, but they should have their workload assessed and everyone on the team aughta be shoveling away at the pile, not standing around cubes with coffee mugs preaching how great they are. (Don't forget that if there isn't a lot to do, there's something fishy - and it might also mean that you'll not be needed for too long.)
This is just a collection of thoughts from my own meandering experience with start-up's. Don't be discouraged though! A friend of mine and I have gone through several of these things and it's incredibly frustrating. Many, however, will become successful and you'll know it when you join! Stick with it and someday you'll be cashing in on loads of valuable stock.:-)
SuSE is a RedHat varient. Duh. I might as well inform you as the color of shit.
As for Slack being for kiddies, well you're entirely confused. Slackware is barebones, minimalist and clean right out of the box. Unlike RedHat, it doesn't load dozens of services that you don't what/need/know about until you actually want them. Also, and in case you didn't notice, unnecessary processes running slows the system down (even on a *nix machine).
If you had even read my post, you'd have seen from the very first paragraph that what distribution you run doesn't matter. So I won't comment on your lack of observation.
The CEO of Turbo did more than just make a flamebait, he gave a clear indication of what the corporate POV wants Linux to become. What we're seeing is very similar to what happened to the original swarm of big UNIXes. That's a Bad Thing for Linux - especially if, say, RedHat managed to get a huge market share (which it most certainly has now), and gradually loses compatability. Then businesses (who tend to really only recognize Rh at this point) will buy into them. Microsoft has a much easier target.
Put some thought into your argument (calling someone a "script kiddie" is meaningless) then try replying again.
As far as I know, there is in fact one standard, generic distribution of Linux. It's usually obtained from the ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel directory.
When it comes to packaged distributions, it's no longer so simple. I am utterly fed up with the cluelessness of the industry and a lot of users. This may not be an original insight, but maybe the plethora of distributions is one of the qualities of Linux!
Sure, we have to deal with some incompatabilities and quirks, but the whole reason many of us choose Linux is because Linux gives us choices, not lack thereof (M$).
I believe, and this is quite sad, that no matter how supportive big industry players are of Linux, they all just want to see it become another Windows (RedHat). They want to see it get monopolized. Why (other than the fact that one platform is easier to support, but there are many consistencies that don't make software development that difficult - tens of thousands of programs written for Linux are distro independant)? Consider these examples:
Oracle for Linux, even after nearly two weeks of coaxing, will not run on anything other than RedHat.
Dell addresses Linux on its systems as "version 6.2". Go figure.
Retail stores tend to not market non-RedHat or non-Rh derivatives on storeshelves (look for yourself: SuSE, Mandrake, RedHat, Corel)
I guess I'm starting to babble here. Maybe I just can't help the fact that I love my simple, clean, small, and fast incarnation based on Slackware. Maybe we need a Windows-like baseline for Linux to become widely accepted, maybe not. All I know is that the statement from our good friends over at Turbo is a clear indication of the dangers Linux faces from the big corporate world. Think about it! They aren't supporters of Linux! They are Microsoft advocates! Everything IBM and Dell (just two examples) do is for Microsoft, but they have their big toes dipped in our pond - and we, being so desperate for corporate attention, smile and welcome them. Oracle is of course, not in this for Microsoft. They like seeing Oracle run on Sun anyway (which is fine), but it's not hard to see that they want to force anyone with huge database needs (the big players) to install RedHat (who seems to enjoy making people suffer with incompatabilities).
What's the solution? Is there a solution? Should we be worried? I'm not quite sure. All I know is that as a community, I think we aughta recognize the threat and realize that RedHat and other larger corporate Linux distros are not our friends. Those at the foundation of Linux development aughta keep their eyes on this and make sure software isn't written for Linux 6.2.
The solution here is to fight vehemently in the name of GNU/Linux and all that is open source. Become docile when the silly management decides to buy into the Microsoft/Dell propaganda.
Get the servers.
Install them.
Send all image requests to anonymous FTP.
"I told you so."
Install Linux/Apache.
Get a raise.
I think I much prefer running Linux on SPARC hardware. It is no doubt faster than Solaris - well, at least the newer versions. Solaris is a dog on my SPARCserver5, so I turn to Linux - which scales down more easily.
*shrug* I'm sorry to see that RedHat think there's no need for it. Unfortunately, next time I need to net-install Linux on one of these machines, where do I turn? Madrake and SuSE are pretty huge beasts, and I've always been unsuccessful at doing Debian net-installs...
Don't get me wrong. Abrash rocks. But somehow, he sounds like a pre-programmed Microdrone in that interview. The whole tone of the interview preached the "wonders" of the XBox, a machine who's components will be available on CompUSA store shelves simultaneous to its release. It's JUST a PC in a game console style molded plastic shell!
He also made a few trumped up statements that make me feel he was reading a PR script. Yes, writing games on an old 4.74MHz PC requires knowledge down to the silicon. Writing games on a console platform requires knowledge down to the silicon. But this, this is just a Pentium. It's all been done before. Not to mention that it's Microsoft's silly DX8 that will be delivering the poly's and nVidia's drivers will be connecting it to the video chipset.
Abrash is a figure head. A Microsoft publicity stunt. Sorry Bill, you're not going to win the geeks to your side with the purchase of one of the most respected.
What is it that causes brilliant, insightful people to eventually become big, dumb, greedy, superficial fools? George Lucas was a visionary. He produced three movies in his youth that shook the very bones of the movie world. Instant classics. Is it just astronomical ammounts of money that turn people into assholes or is there something else here? Come on George! Let your fans be fans! (And MAKE Episode 2 NOT suck, okay?!)
I can't think of any reason it would run PalmOS either. Look at the thing. A realtime OS would hardly be an ideal solution for this kind of device. PalmOS is made for *drumroll* the Palm! PalmOS is a very small, lightweight OS that requires next to nothing in terms of processing power. This little web pad of theirs seems a bit more than just a low power PDA. Given the fact that 3Com have sold part of their already damaged soul in an agreement where they aren't even allowed to provide software support for a product because M$ doesn't want them to make a Linux driver... well, that tells me something very negative about a company. Granted, 3Com's have had fine products, but more and more they seem to be going the way of a M$ proprietary solution and I won't trust them. If M$ can get 3Com to make an entire line of ethernet hardware that is Windows only, what makes you think they won't get their hands into this
I apologize. Earlier I did not justify why I was so upset at this potential direction. The reason is very simple. 3Com is a big name, and they are about to release a larger integrated device. I think it's *very* important for Linux to secure places in the integrated market because that is where Microsoft are going next! M$ are gearing up for cell phones, PDA's, and this may only be the next instance of one - except it's being made by a company that is or at least used to be pro-Linux. Do you see my point?
That subject aughta tell it all. Even though the anti-overclocking efforts of AMD make me a little restless, what we may see here is a blessed occurrence of a monolopy break-down. If AMD are able to play their cards right and release a Pentium 4 competitor before the Pentium 4 is even released, manufacturers will flock to them in droves. That event would have serious and very positive reprecussions throughout the entire industry. I'm sure first and foremost, the notion of IntelM$ comes to mind. Come on AMD. The ball is in your court. Run with it! Kick Intel while they're down.
There is something about this product that smells of Micro$oft. Considering 3Com's recent deals with MS to release Windows-only ethernet hardware (like the HomeConnect series [the 405's] that are identical in everyway to 905's, but are specifically designed to be incompatable with Linux in very much the same way that LoseModems are). Do we have any specs on the OS this puppy is supposed to run or am I just blowing anti-M$ smoke?
My goal was to participate in a well functioning IT department, idiots be damned. My primary focus is technology - that's all I really care about, so I wanted to see it work properly for users. It doesn't matter much because now I write code (as a good comp.sci major should) which is what I want to do for a living anyway.:-)
The article takes a good look at sources, but I think something left out is stressed caused by co-workers, but one type of co-worker in particular. Ever have to work with someone who managed to pick up a lot of buzzwords and trivia, then combined them with arrogance to pass it off as intelligence/knowledge? The most frustrating part is that most people in the user sector don't know the difference between a braggart ("Yeah, I have this new 3dfx Voodoo7 because I was approved for their beta program. That thing is awesome, the clock is at 700MHz. Unfortunately, it doesn't work under Windows 2000, so I had to hack Microsoft to get the beta of Windows 2002 and that works fine. What, you want to see it? Uh, my system is down right now. Ask me next week.") and the real-deal. When I worked in IT, the greatest source of stress was having to clean up one of my co-worker's messes. Even more annoying is the fact that upper management never noticed this. My goal wasn't to get anyone fired, but time after time I reported poor/incorrect/destructive "solutions" made by co-workers that I had to spend a day or more cleaning up. Nothing was ever done. Management never spoke to them, retested them, or anything. They just went thought life, getting paid more than me, leaving more problems or half-assed fixes left and right that were inevitably passed down to me. Ugh!! So damn irritating! It just made me want to POUND MY KEYBOARD KL:RFJKL:DF:JKLSDJGFJKLSDFJKL
This attempt on the part of Xi is ultimately self-defeating. Xi are intending to sell DeXtop to a community of open source advocates that already have two free superior products, not only readily available, but also up and running.
Eskimo's don't pay for ice - let alone ice from polluted water. (Penguins don't either.;-)
Why even bother afterall? I remember using CDE on clasic old Solaris boxes, and I always went running back to OpenLook to save my sanity. CDE is just too damn counter-intuitive.
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I am going to tell you that John Q. Public who is out browsing the store shelves is going to see have his attention caught rather quickly.
Wow, there are applications for Linux?
Linux has suffered similar problems to the Macintosh: people avoid buying them because "there just isn't enough software for them." They proceed to then buy Windows boxes.
For the mainstream, the subrelease quality of most software on Freshmeat is not sufficient - and Mr. Public does not want to compile his own software. Just so long as ChilliWare produces a good product (aren't they they the ones who produce that software to run ASP on Linux - and looking at their four new products, things are looking good) this will produce many exciting benefits.
And in the long run, there's always the possibility of ChilliSoft opening its software up once they become successful. Hey, look at what Sun did with Star Office (it didn't take that long either).
One Window at a time...
Are you sure about that? I am almost certain that the machine's even had the same BIOS! I'll have to find an XE, crack it open, and get the model #'s off of the chips (then I'll repost here :).
It's good to see that people still appreciate this very important piece of legacy hardware! Long live the NES! :-)
The reason most people will stick with 2.2 is its extreme level of maturity. I am determined to not put a 2.4 kernel on any server boxes I run (www.thesilicondragon.com). 2.2 series has already been installed, tempered, and well adapted for a variety of applications. In many cases, this makes 2.4 irrelevant. However, once we see a 2.4.(n > 10), 2.2 will likewise become irrelevant. Take a look at the Debian project. Their thinking is to use what is tried and true for the utmost. Only in Potato are they now out of the 2.0 series. It's good thinking and Linus shouldn't sound so meloncholy when he says that 2.4 won't be vastly accepted in the immediate future. :-)
Now, if all of these kids are determined to go out into the world and support RedHat's potential monopoly and work for Oracle or whatever other company makes "RedHat-only" software, then this was a good move.
Some how I doubt it.
Just a thought. :-)
Get it. :-)
http://www.thesilicondragon.co m/o o_605_src.tar.gz
*smacks forehead* I might have FTP working later.
ftp://ftp.thesilicondragon.com/pub/oo_605.src.tar. gz
I will be mirroring the binary distibution soon if people take interest.
If you have problems, don't e-mail me at that box because that probably means it's been /.ed. Instead, email me at silicon@compsci.duq.edu.
Enjoy!
I've also been hearing that along with the source being opened, Sun was going to do some major improvements to the suite just before hand. Are we seeing any radical improvement before the community gets their fingers into the development or is it entirely up to us to make an MSOffice killer?
It's very similar to what happened to cr0wbar with Safe Audit a little while ago over at detonate.net. Can these banner-ad revenue services just spontaneously decide that they're no longer going to pay web sites for hosting their banners? What's going to happen to a lot of the web sites that depend on them to pay for server space and domain names?
After an interview process and they show you around, you should have the option of signing and NDA and asking to see everything they have to offer in terms of the business model, projections, staff, and organization. If a start-up has a business model that fails in general assessment in *anyway* or fails to demonstrate good long-term goals, forget about it. Also, turn the interview around from yourself to the staff. Question your projected boss. What does he/she really know? Is he/she a technical type that has a clue about what you're going to be instructed to do, or is he/she just a figure head that works as an underling for the top people, pushing employees around. Are the higher-ups well educated people that you could truly respect? What about your potential co-workers? Are there a few that are confused by constructors? Are some of them installing RedHat for the 3rd time that same day? Usually lack-luster employees shows that management just wanted to get some quick help together for practically no cost just for the sake of impressing VC's. Bad. Also, observe the office organization model. It's usually a bad sign if everyone is running around between tasks in an aimless fashion. (Yes, that's vague, let me clear it up.) If you see someone who should be writing code stapling papers together in place of an office manager, bad sign. A good start-up company should have people hired for their respective positions and not unrelated ones.
When I say that you should be lofty, you should remember that a good start-up company knows talent and will relentlessly pursue talent. Why? They know that they will only succeed if they can convince the best minds around to join their team. A start-up that is doomed to fail is one that interviews talented employees, but says, 'well, you cost too much, we can find someone cheaper.' Bad. Always remember to turn questions back at your interviewer. If they really want you and your skills, they'll put up with quite a bit.
Lastly, make sure there is a lot of work to do! A start-up company should be busting its ass to become successful and beat everyone else to the punch. They should not be chaotic, but they should have their workload assessed and everyone on the team aughta be shoveling away at the pile, not standing around cubes with coffee mugs preaching how great they are. (Don't forget that if there isn't a lot to do, there's something fishy - and it might also mean that you'll not be needed for too long.)
This is just a collection of thoughts from my own meandering experience with start-up's. Don't be discouraged though! A friend of mine and I have gone through several of these things and it's incredibly frustrating. Many, however, will become successful and you'll know it when you join! Stick with it and someday you'll be cashing in on loads of valuable stock. :-)
*chuckle* I stand corrected. :-)
As for Slack being for kiddies, well you're entirely confused. Slackware is barebones, minimalist and clean right out of the box. Unlike RedHat, it doesn't load dozens of services that you don't what/need/know about until you actually want them. Also, and in case you didn't notice, unnecessary processes running slows the system down (even on a *nix machine).
If you had even read my post, you'd have seen from the very first paragraph that what distribution you run doesn't matter. So I won't comment on your lack of observation.
The CEO of Turbo did more than just make a flamebait, he gave a clear indication of what the corporate POV wants Linux to become. What we're seeing is very similar to what happened to the original swarm of big UNIXes. That's a Bad Thing for Linux - especially if, say, RedHat managed to get a huge market share (which it most certainly has now), and gradually loses compatability. Then businesses (who tend to really only recognize Rh at this point) will buy into them. Microsoft has a much easier target.
Put some thought into your argument (calling someone a "script kiddie" is meaningless) then try replying again.
When it comes to packaged distributions, it's no longer so simple. I am utterly fed up with the cluelessness of the industry and a lot of users. This may not be an original insight, but maybe the plethora of distributions is one of the qualities of Linux!
Sure, we have to deal with some incompatabilities and quirks, but the whole reason many of us choose Linux is because Linux gives us choices, not lack thereof (M$).
I believe, and this is quite sad, that no matter how supportive big industry players are of Linux, they all just want to see it become another Windows (RedHat). They want to see it get monopolized. Why (other than the fact that one platform is easier to support, but there are many consistencies that don't make software development that difficult - tens of thousands of programs written for Linux are distro independant)? Consider these examples:
Oracle for Linux, even after nearly two weeks of coaxing, will not run on anything other than RedHat.
Dell addresses Linux on its systems as "version 6.2". Go figure.
Retail stores tend to not market non-RedHat or non-Rh derivatives on storeshelves (look for yourself: SuSE, Mandrake, RedHat, Corel)
Large industry players (IBM, Dell, etc.) are pushing funds into RedHat like there's no tomorrow. Now RedHat are nearly arrogant as Microsoft (" We invented the Internet^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H the Open Source movement! ").
I guess I'm starting to babble here. Maybe I just can't help the fact that I love my simple, clean, small, and fast incarnation based on Slackware. Maybe we need a Windows-like baseline for Linux to become widely accepted, maybe not. All I know is that the statement from our good friends over at Turbo is a clear indication of the dangers Linux faces from the big corporate world. Think about it! They aren't supporters of Linux! They are Microsoft advocates! Everything IBM and Dell (just two examples) do is for Microsoft, but they have their big toes dipped in our pond - and we, being so desperate for corporate attention, smile and welcome them. Oracle is of course, not in this for Microsoft. They like seeing Oracle run on Sun anyway (which is fine), but it's not hard to see that they want to force anyone with huge database needs (the big players) to install RedHat ( who seems to enjoy making people suffer with incompatabilities ).
What's the solution? Is there a solution? Should we be worried? I'm not quite sure. All I know is that as a community, I think we aughta recognize the threat and realize that RedHat and other larger corporate Linux distros are not our friends. Those at the foundation of Linux development aughta keep their eyes on this and make sure software isn't written for Linux 6.2.
Get the servers.
Install them.
Send all image requests to anonymous FTP.
"I told you so."
Install Linux/Apache.
Get a raise.
*shrug* I'm sorry to see that RedHat think there's no need for it. Unfortunately, next time I need to net-install Linux on one of these machines, where do I turn? Madrake and SuSE are pretty huge beasts, and I've always been unsuccessful at doing Debian net-installs...
He also made a few trumped up statements that make me feel he was reading a PR script. Yes, writing games on an old 4.74MHz PC requires knowledge down to the silicon. Writing games on a console platform requires knowledge down to the silicon. But this, this is just a Pentium. It's all been done before. Not to mention that it's Microsoft's silly DX8 that will be delivering the poly's and nVidia's drivers will be connecting it to the video chipset.
Abrash is a figure head. A Microsoft publicity stunt. Sorry Bill, you're not going to win the geeks to your side with the purchase of one of the most respected.
What is it that causes brilliant, insightful people to eventually become big, dumb, greedy, superficial fools? George Lucas was a visionary. He produced three movies in his youth that shook the very bones of the movie world. Instant classics. Is it just astronomical ammounts of money that turn people into assholes or is there something else here? Come on George! Let your fans be fans! (And MAKE Episode 2 NOT suck, okay?!)
I apologize. Earlier I did not justify why I was so upset at this potential direction. The reason is very simple. 3Com is a big name, and they are about to release a larger integrated device. I think it's *very* important for Linux to secure places in the integrated market because that is where Microsoft are going next! M$ are gearing up for cell phones, PDA's, and this may only be the next instance of one - except it's being made by a company that is or at least used to be pro-Linux. Do you see my point?
That subject aughta tell it all. Even though the anti-overclocking efforts of AMD make me a little restless, what we may see here is a blessed occurrence of a monolopy break-down. If AMD are able to play their cards right and release a Pentium 4 competitor before the Pentium 4 is even released, manufacturers will flock to them in droves. That event would have serious and very positive reprecussions throughout the entire industry. I'm sure first and foremost, the notion of IntelM$ comes to mind. Come on AMD. The ball is in your court. Run with it! Kick Intel while they're down.
There is something about this product that smells of Micro$oft. Considering 3Com's recent deals with MS to release Windows-only ethernet hardware (like the HomeConnect series [the 405's] that are identical in everyway to 905's, but are specifically designed to be incompatable with Linux in very much the same way that LoseModems are). Do we have any specs on the OS this puppy is supposed to run or am I just blowing anti-M$ smoke?
My goal was to participate in a well functioning IT department, idiots be damned. My primary focus is technology - that's all I really care about, so I wanted to see it work properly for users. It doesn't matter much because now I write code (as a good comp.sci major should) which is what I want to do for a living anyway. :-)
The article takes a good look at sources, but I think something left out is stressed caused by co-workers, but one type of co-worker in particular. Ever have to work with someone who managed to pick up a lot of buzzwords and trivia, then combined them with arrogance to pass it off as intelligence/knowledge? The most frustrating part is that most people in the user sector don't know the difference between a braggart ("Yeah, I have this new 3dfx Voodoo7 because I was approved for their beta program. That thing is awesome, the clock is at 700MHz. Unfortunately, it doesn't work under Windows 2000, so I had to hack Microsoft to get the beta of Windows 2002 and that works fine. What, you want to see it? Uh, my system is down right now. Ask me next week.") and the real-deal. When I worked in IT, the greatest source of stress was having to clean up one of my co-worker's messes. Even more annoying is the fact that upper management never noticed this. My goal wasn't to get anyone fired, but time after time I reported poor/incorrect/destructive "solutions" made by co-workers that I had to spend a day or more cleaning up. Nothing was ever done. Management never spoke to them, retested them, or anything. They just went thought life, getting paid more than me, leaving more problems or half-assed fixes left and right that were inevitably passed down to me. Ugh!! So damn irritating! It just made me want to POUND MY KEYBOARD KL:RFJKL:DF:JKLSDJGFJKLSDFJKL
Eskimo's don't pay for ice - let alone ice from polluted water. (Penguins don't either. ;-)
Why even bother afterall? I remember using CDE on clasic old Solaris boxes, and I always went running back to OpenLook to save my sanity. CDE is just too damn counter-intuitive.