Believe me, they are not getting us any cheaper, in fact they have to pay relocation costs, lawyers fees for processing the visas, the cost of the visa itself and believe me my salary is well above industry standard. Look I understand that people are getting frustrated about their situations, but we're not the people to blame for that. I don't know what those students problems are but finding a job should not be one of them. Perhaps there are other reasons that they can't get jobs? As for getting people from Ireland cheaper, that's a pretty ignorant statement considering that many Irish people are relocating BACK TO IRELAND because the economy is booming there, quite a few of these are Green Card holders, not just H1-Bs. And it's nice to see that a country founded on immigrant labour has such open opinions...Actually I apologise for that last remark, with the exception of oyurself and a couple of other narrow minded individuals, everyone else over here is pretty cool. See the US even lets people like you live here, even though you are a bigot. Cool huh?!
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first of all, let me explain who I am and why I'm uniquely qualified to offer an opinion. I'm a 25 year old Irish guy who while still in University in Ireland was recruited by an extremely well known American investment company who came to Ireland to recruit IT students. Think about that for a second. They came to Ireland to recruit us. What does that say to you? Let me tell you what it says to me. Firstly it tells me that they cannot find people with the skills that they need in the US. Secondly, they are so desperate for people with any IT skills that they recruit people who haven't even graduated (my job was only contingent on graduation, not on the grades I obtained). 2 years on, I've moved up the ladder and gained incredible experience that has made me, I say this without any egotisitical pretensions, invaluable in certain areas of the company's development section. And in that time, I've seen requirements for entry-level IT positions drop even further to the point where people without degrees (or perhaps the holders of degrees from dubious establishments) are obtaining jobs within the IT sector. Don't get me wrong however, I'm not trying to be snobby, most of these people perform their duties with as much skill and dedication as those who have more formal qualifications, my point is that this is another indicator of the current shortage of trained IT staff in this country.
As for the visa being temporary, right it is, but the message that companies conveyed to us was that after the first 2 years of our H1-B visa was up, they would begin the process of obtaining a Green Card for us. I am about have this process begun on my behalf. However, other people have not been so fortunate and in some cases have been told barefaced lies by their employers regarding their status. Without sounding like a bleeding heart, these people have lives built around a foundation which is set in the stone of the last 6 years in the US. They have jobs, families, friends, houses, lives....Think off all they stand to lose, all that they have built, down the drain. Now put yourself in their position, because the way things are going, if the US doesn't reverse this situation they'll be left behind while other countries take their place (Ireland already has, as of this year it has become the largest exporter of software in the world). Then the tables could turn, Americans working under similar conditions to those faced by H1-B workers today could face the same draconian beaureacracies. Perhaps a little dramatised, but perhaps not.
Basically my point is this, I and many others were invited to come to this country to perform a task that others were not available / able to do. That lack of availability has only increased. But the economy in the US has erstwhile boomed. H1-B workers are not the evil threat to US workers jobs, ignorance is. Ignorance of the fact that a growing economy needs workers to fuel it's growth. You remove the skilled H1-B sector, you starve the economy and it'll come back to bite US workers in the ass.
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Believe me, they are not getting us any cheaper, in fact they have to pay relocation costs, lawyers fees for processing the visas, the cost of the visa itself and believe me my salary is well above industry standard. Look I understand that people are getting frustrated about their situations, but we're not the people to blame for that. I don't know what those students problems are but finding a job should not be one of them. Perhaps there are other reasons that they can't get jobs? As for getting people from Ireland cheaper, that's a pretty ignorant statement considering that many Irish people are relocating BACK TO IRELAND because the economy is booming there, quite a few of these are Green Card holders, not just H1-Bs. And it's nice to see that a country founded on immigrant labour has such open opinions...Actually I apologise for that last remark, with the exception of oyurself and a couple of other narrow minded individuals, everyone else over here is pretty cool. See the US even lets people like you live here, even though you are a bigot. Cool huh?!
Ok, first of all, let me explain who I am and why I'm uniquely qualified to offer an opinion. I'm a 25 year old Irish guy who while still in University in Ireland was recruited by an extremely well known American investment company who came to Ireland to recruit IT students. Think about that for a second. They came to Ireland to recruit us. What does that say to you? Let me tell you what it says to me. Firstly it tells me that they cannot find people with the skills that they need in the US. Secondly, they are so desperate for people with any IT skills that they recruit people who haven't even graduated (my job was only contingent on graduation, not on the grades I obtained). 2 years on, I've moved up the ladder and gained incredible experience that has made me, I say this without any egotisitical pretensions, invaluable in certain areas of the company's development section. And in that time, I've seen requirements for entry-level IT positions drop even further to the point where people without degrees (or perhaps the holders of degrees from dubious establishments) are obtaining jobs within the IT sector. Don't get me wrong however, I'm not trying to be snobby, most of these people perform their duties with as much skill and dedication as those who have more formal qualifications, my point is that this is another indicator of the current shortage of trained IT staff in this country. As for the visa being temporary, right it is, but the message that companies conveyed to us was that after the first 2 years of our H1-B visa was up, they would begin the process of obtaining a Green Card for us. I am about have this process begun on my behalf. However, other people have not been so fortunate and in some cases have been told barefaced lies by their employers regarding their status. Without sounding like a bleeding heart, these people have lives built around a foundation which is set in the stone of the last 6 years in the US. They have jobs, families, friends, houses, lives....Think off all they stand to lose, all that they have built, down the drain. Now put yourself in their position, because the way things are going, if the US doesn't reverse this situation they'll be left behind while other countries take their place (Ireland already has, as of this year it has become the largest exporter of software in the world). Then the tables could turn, Americans working under similar conditions to those faced by H1-B workers today could face the same draconian beaureacracies. Perhaps a little dramatised, but perhaps not. Basically my point is this, I and many others were invited to come to this country to perform a task that others were not available / able to do. That lack of availability has only increased. But the economy in the US has erstwhile boomed. H1-B workers are not the evil threat to US workers jobs, ignorance is. Ignorance of the fact that a growing economy needs workers to fuel it's growth. You remove the skilled H1-B sector, you starve the economy and it'll come back to bite US workers in the ass.