"Back in the day" you needed a video card, a sound/joystick card, a serial port card, a parallel port card, a network card (if you had a network "back in the day", you SIMMS, your CPU, your CPU fan, your power supply, your drive rails, etc. It was a lot more fun, because you could really customize the hell out of a box. Now, everything's on the goddamned motherboard, and most come with something like 2-3 slots. That sucks ass. On top of it, you can't even buy a motherboard with ISA anymore. Lose a parallel port ($5-10 part)? New motherboard. Lose a network adapter? New motherboard. etc., etc.
Yeah, it's all from advertising. But that's why I was saying that massive volume is needed to make any money (my own experience)... Somewhere in the tens of thousands of users a day to make anything at all. Wireless... eh. A few geeks and first adopters. Still a very tiny market.
Yes, banners still do work to an extent. No, banners would not work in this situation. The number of users would be much, much too low to attract any kind of advertiser whatsoever. Advertisers are interested in hundred of thousands of impressions. With wireless being still so bleeding edge, you wouldn't have more than a handful, daily, unless you happened to be in the hippest of hip neighborhoods in San Francisco or NY. Or, you could go for some kind of pay per signup for whatever program, in which with the kind of volume your service would bring in, could amount to only a few signups a year.
Bugs generally have nothing to do with a top level architect. This guy's created Microsoft's most successful software, the the software that everybody else tries to copy (Open Office, Star Office, etc.). This guy rocks.
The only thing slowing Linux's takeover of the desktop is the ability to open Word file formats. He'd be excellent for understanding this... I hope the right people are paying attention...
Considering he's accustomed to earning a shitload of money, I sincerely doubt that there's more than one company (Sun) that could afford to hire him. And, somehow, I doubt that a guy making that much money is gonna do it for free, either.
Oh fuck. Who cares about one little fucking copy of Excel. Quit your goddamn whining. You want REAL CHOICE from government? Try asking them for the ability to choose how much tax you're gonna pay. If you're a business owner, and you're sweating haveing to buy a copy of Excel, your business is going down, because your priorities are all fucked up.
I'm sure many of us would not be prepared to quit our day-jobs because our employers were infringing on our ability to advocate our beliefs.
Jesus, you're a sucker. Brucey quit because it would be good for his image, and because he had something more lucrative lined up. Come on, kid, don't swallow everything you read hook, line, & sinker.
Goddamn it, you know, I have NO CHOICE when it comes to electrical voltage in my home! Everyone else uses 120V, so I HAVE TO use 120V! What horse shit! I should be able to use whatever voltage I want. I'm being oppressed. Help me Bruce, help me!
Well, in your scenario, it's still has nothing to do with "lazy programming". It has to do with business necessity. Outside of the Mozilla project, I've never heard of "lazy developers". But hell, look at them, they took their time, and it's still a huge, slow, buggy app. "Laziness" has nothing to do with it.
either they are uneducated because of the morons teaching them or they are just too lazy saying "hell there's plenty of processor cycles for this"
No, you see, when you have a JOB, you have to do what your BOSS says. PROFESSIONAL programmers usually have a BOSS which gives them a DEALINE. Kid, when you come down from your collegiate ivory tower and get a job, you'll see what I'm saying. A month for a few milliseconds? You're fucking crazy. That's like telling a company, "we can speed this program up for you by a few milliseconds, but it'll cost you about $10K".
Well, MS wouldn't let a hole go unpatched for 3 months. I'd click on Start, Windows Update. Or even better, it's set to automatic, and it'd be patched automatically before it's a problem. No need to wait around for months, then when it doesn't show up (the patch, that is), edit some obscure text file.
Well, this just proves my point. Javascript should be disabled
Mozilla has a big hole in it, so instead of using a working browser, people should cripple their browsing experience? That's stupid. If the transmission in your car broke, you'd probably just drive around all day in first gear, right? C'mon, that's a fucking copout.
This same post under an article that says "IE has a security leak" would be modded to -1. It IS a big deal. Especially, since it STILL hasn't been fixed. The responses would say, "This wouldn't happen under Open Source". Somebody would fix it." Well, it IS Open Source, and it still hasn't been fixed.
Actually, I think *I* was the first person to say that, a few years ago here. But since there's not a "search" at Slashdot (that would definately break MySQL), I can't find the post.
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"Back in the day" you needed a video card, a sound/joystick card, a serial port card, a parallel port card, a network card (if you had a network "back in the day", you SIMMS, your CPU, your CPU fan, your power supply, your drive rails, etc. It was a lot more fun, because you could really customize the hell out of a box. Now, everything's on the goddamned motherboard, and most come with something like 2-3 slots. That sucks ass. On top of it, you can't even buy a motherboard with ISA anymore. Lose a parallel port ($5-10 part)? New motherboard. Lose a network adapter? New motherboard. etc., etc.
Hell, everything's integrated into the motherboard these days..
Motherboard + CPU + RAM + HD + Case + keyboard & mouse. Plug everything in where it fits!
Do college kids actually use that wireless shit already?
Yeah, it's all from advertising. But that's why I was saying that massive volume is needed to make any money (my own experience)... Somewhere in the tens of thousands of users a day to make anything at all. Wireless... eh. A few geeks and first adopters. Still a very tiny market.
can't think of a single site/service which is based on advertising alone and is actually *making* money.
[ahem]
Yes, banners still do work to an extent. No, banners would not work in this situation. The number of users would be much, much too low to attract any kind of advertiser whatsoever. Advertisers are interested in hundred of thousands of impressions. With wireless being still so bleeding edge, you wouldn't have more than a handful, daily, unless you happened to be in the hippest of hip neighborhoods in San Francisco or NY. Or, you could go for some kind of pay per signup for whatever program, in which with the kind of volume your service would bring in, could amount to only a few signups a year.
Bugs generally have nothing to do with a top level architect. This guy's created Microsoft's most successful software, the the software that everybody else tries to copy (Open Office, Star Office, etc.). This guy rocks.
The only thing slowing Linux's takeover of the desktop is the ability to open Word file formats. He'd be excellent for understanding this... I hope the right people are paying attention...
Considering he's accustomed to earning a shitload of money, I sincerely doubt that there's more than one company (Sun) that could afford to hire him. And, somehow, I doubt that a guy making that much money is gonna do it for free, either.
It sounds like that "Lance Bass" kid I keep reading about is gonna be drinking a loooooot of Pepsi in the near future.
That's not for you to decide. It's property of Sun. They can do as they see fit with it.
Oh fuck. Who cares about one little fucking copy of Excel. Quit your goddamn whining. You want REAL CHOICE from government? Try asking them for the ability to choose how much tax you're gonna pay. If you're a business owner, and you're sweating haveing to buy a copy of Excel, your business is going down, because your priorities are all fucked up.
I'm sure many of us would not be prepared to quit our day-jobs because our employers were infringing on our ability to advocate our beliefs.
Jesus, you're a sucker. Brucey quit because it would be good for his image, and because he had something more lucrative lined up. Come on, kid, don't swallow everything you read hook, line, & sinker.
Goddamn it, you know, I have NO CHOICE when it comes to electrical voltage in my home! Everyone else uses 120V, so I HAVE TO use 120V! What horse shit! I should be able to use whatever voltage I want. I'm being oppressed. Help me Bruce, help me!
Well, in your scenario, it's still has nothing to do with "lazy programming". It has to do with business necessity. Outside of the Mozilla project, I've never heard of "lazy developers". But hell, look at them, they took their time, and it's still a huge, slow, buggy app. "Laziness" has nothing to do with it.
either they are uneducated because of the morons teaching them or they are just too lazy saying "hell there's plenty of processor cycles for this"
No, you see, when you have a JOB, you have to do what your BOSS says. PROFESSIONAL programmers usually have a BOSS which gives them a DEALINE. Kid, when you come down from your collegiate ivory tower and get a job, you'll see what I'm saying. A month for a few milliseconds? You're fucking crazy. That's like telling a company, "we can speed this program up for you by a few milliseconds, but it'll cost you about $10K".
Get a job.
Hey kid, you went from a shitty DOS-based OS to a rock solid NT based OS. If you don't think that that's an upgrade, you're a fucking moron.
Well, MS wouldn't let a hole go unpatched for 3 months. I'd click on Start, Windows Update. Or even better, it's set to automatic, and it'd be patched automatically before it's a problem. No need to wait around for months, then when it doesn't show up (the patch, that is), edit some obscure text file.
Considering that I've only ever seen ~2 useful applications of javascript, it doesn't even warrant a debate.
Well, then, have fun with the circa 1995 web sites you're playing with.
Well, this just proves my point. Javascript should be disabled
Mozilla has a big hole in it, so instead of using a working browser, people should cripple their browsing experience? That's stupid. If the transmission in your car broke, you'd probably just drive around all day in first gear, right? C'mon, that's a fucking copout.
inferrs that it is something not widly used.
You're right. That's why he said that Mozilla is "obscure". It's not widely used.
Did you forget to take your meds today?
This same post under an article that says "IE has a security leak" would be modded to -1. It IS a big deal. Especially, since it STILL hasn't been fixed. The responses would say, "This wouldn't happen under Open Source". Somebody would fix it." Well, it IS Open Source, and it still hasn't been fixed.
Actually, I think *I* was the first person to say that, a few years ago here. But since there's not a "search" at Slashdot (that would definately break MySQL), I can't find the post.
If I have to look for security updates daily, I'm not using the software. If apache-ssl is that buggy, I'd just find something else to use. Ugh.
Well, you see, often, those of us with lives usually don't spend an hour a day trolling the latest bug lists.
... next time I'm shopping for bizarre shrunken monkey head antiques!
Actually, fakes are very common in the antique world.