No offense intended, but you have no clue as to what you're talking about. This is why joe schmoe (ie: you) don't make good reporters. What you call a fact "advertising is what pays for the paper" is wrong. Circulation accounts for 25% of New York Times' Revenue.
This took me about 30 seconds to find. Before you start making up "facts", you should probably spend just a tiny bit of time researching.
No, by all means, go right ahead. I'm willing to hear them. I don't believe that news is something that can be "open sourced". Blogging is kinda' what you're talking about but blogs have -zero- integrity. Even one of the biggest on the Net (this one) posts all kinds of articles that are misleading, or flat out wrong. Journalism is a real skill... it's not something that just anybody can do. Blogs carry very little weight with most people except for other fellow bloggers. Even then, blogs usually rely on "real" news reports made by reporters for actual news. And yes, the NY Times isn't 100% (hence the scandal), but people know and understand that they have a real system in place to try to check facts and report real news, as opposed to Slashdot or other blogs which is a guy in his underwear writing whatever comes to mind. When you pay for a newspaper, or pay by trading your information, you're paying for journalists that have schooling that teaches morality in reporting (or is supposed to), and how to express facts in a relatively unbiased way. You're paying for fact-checkers. You're paying for people who physically go to where the news is. You're paying for research. You're paying for people to take the time to get the credentials to even get TO the news sources (ie: not any joe blow calling himself a "reporter" is going to be allowed into a White House press conference.
How dare you openly accept the fact that companies are asking intrusive information for exchange of information? We should not let this stand.
Why not? And what do you consider "intrusive"?
These companies make MUCH more on selling you out than they do from us buying the newspaper at an outlet. They are taking advantage of the general stupidity and willingness of the public to give up their info.
I love it when non-business people dream up the way that it should be, when in reality, they couldn't run a fucking lemonade stand. You know buddy, if you're such a financial whiz, and you can make a world class newspaper and give it out for free, you should! You'd make a goddamned fortune, like Rupert Murdoch or Ted Turner. Except that you'd be the "good guy". Since your business model is *so* great, you should have an easy time of it!
No, kid. I have experience. The products are virtually the same. They do the same ting, and one is as secure as the other. In fact, studies have shown that IIS is much faster than Apache in circumstances. Plus, ASP doesn't cost a dime. It comes with W2K Server.
And next time you quote some supposed article, try to at least point to a real article, and not a 404.
Kiddo, software and journalism are two different beasts. Anybody can code from their living room. Why they do it, I have no clue. But, do you know anybody who is going to fly to Iraq on their own dime, take pictures, write articles, publish their own newspaper, distribute it, for free? And even if someone is willing to do it, there's something called "jounalistic integrity" (ie: the opposite of Slashdot). People have to have some way of trusting said publication. For example, Slashdot, even though it is technically funded, has zero journalistic integrity. If a story is wrong or libelous, nobody really cares. The New York Times, on the other hand, has a lot of integrity, which is why when that lying sack of shit reporter was found out, it was a big deal. A very big deal.
I'm a firm believe in free hamburgers. It's such a pain to have to pay for them. What are you, 6? There's nothing free in life, kiddo. If you haven't learned that by the time you can make a/. post, then something is terribly wrong.
If you had taken the 10 seconds to read the rest of this discussion, you would've come across about 15 posts extolling the virtues of DVD Shrink. Also, don't type all in caps. It makes you look like an idiot. And if you are an idiot (and all signs point to "yes"), then please go away.
First off, it wasn't a company that "took away your rights". It was a government lawsuit. Secondly, any company will do anything that it can to make a profit within the law. If you don't like the laws, then VOTE. Get this current batch of bastards out of office, and hopefully the new ones will be better. You have no right to bitch if you don't VOTE.
Are you kidding? That's not complicated? The only way it could be *more* complicated and convoluted is if you were also to tell me that I need to solder something onto my motherboard to get it to work. Compare this to ASP/IIS: either it comes already installed and running, or you end up putting a CD in the drive and clicking "next" a few times.
But then, you probably wouldn't know where to start if you had to change the oil or plugs in your car...
What business is it of yours? Your only concern should be as to whether or not it's a good value. Do you ask the grocery store manager if the box of cereal that you buy is artificailly expensive because of government grain subsidies (it is)? Now go away, and put your tinfoil hat back on.
ike a compiler. I don't care if your not a developer, if your using linux at some point you will want to install software that has to be compiled for your system
If a user ever has to learn the word "compile", then the piece of software is a failure, period. That's like saying that if you buy a Toyota, you're going to have to re-machine the cylinder heads *sometime*!
The only reason you have to reinstall Windows once a year or more often is that the Registry,.ini files and other system files gradually get corrupted
Or you just occasionally run a program supplied by MS or any other vendor that removes dead links in all of those places. There's no reason to re-install W2K or WXP any more.
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Actually, in W2K/XP, you have the core dumps in case of a major crash, and event logs most of the rest of the time. But, writing to the event log is usually an application level procedure, so if an app crashes on you for no reason, and there's nothing in the event log, blame the app, not the OS.
Actually, my business' main file/print/mp3 server and back office machine (I'm using it now) is an "emachine". It's been running Windows 2000 Pro for 2+ years, with reboots only for occasional power outages. It's actually covered in dust, and doesn't have a cover. Nonetheless, we haven't had a single problem with it.
"Ok, heres what hardware is supported out of the box. Everything else is likely to be a headache".
And for most people, this already is a turn off. Most people don't know, and don't care (rightly so) what kind of video chip they have, sound card, etc. This is pretty much useless information. What Linux needs to do is to support generic, industry standards. It needs to support Soundblaster compatible cards. Generic video cards, network cards, etc. I mean, can you imagine buying something as simple (to you) as a car seat cover, and it coming with a list of spark plug manufacturers that it works with? Most people have no idea where the spark plug (or video chip information) is, never mind what they have.
If we don't look, don't care, and don't know, all we have to do is change the code when someone else points out a problem.
Well, the law doesn't work like that. Ignorance is not a defense in any kind of law. If there's copyright infringing code that you're using, you're liable, period. It's up to you to A. Know where every line of code came from or B. Buy from somebody who IS liable.
Kid, you don't know what in the hell you're talking about. EDS is a mssive, global company that does hundreds of millions in sales a year. They handle systems for thousands of large companies. To say that EDS uses Windows is fucking moronic. A company as large as EDS, and doing as many diverse things as they do probably has every OS ever invented running somewhere in the organization. Sheesh. Slashdot needs some age requirements for posting.
Say, you may not get out much, but there are other ways to build an app besides on top of an SQL server. You'll note that Doom 3, Microsoft Word, and the Google search engine don't use them. You'll concede that those are all real apps produced by real companies, right?
Notice that I said app development with a database back end. I know that not every app uses a database. Not by a long shot.
A little reminder here: databases aren't made from magic pixie dust; they're written in other languages. An RDBMS can't be more granular than the language it's written in, it can only be less. Indeed, it probably should be less, as its purpose is to make development simpler, easier.
Oh, I understand that, but Oracle & DB2 & other "real" RDBMS' aren't written in high level laguages. With Oracle, at least (my experience), you can control queries and other processes down to the memory paging level. You can't control where *exactly* you put memory with C++ or Java. They have pointers, granted, but that's nothing compared to the fine tuning you can do in Oracle (which I've only *seen* done... I was a developer, not a DBA).
Every single app I've seen designed like this turned into an abject failure. That's about a half dozen. You're adding in a tremndous performance hit and complexity that is usually not needed if you have some good database people. All of the performance things that you talk about are available on RDBMS', and are more powerful than any of these new fangled middle-tier thingies.
Generally a database should be where the data is kept. Nothing else.
You know nothing about database-backed application development. I would recommend that you find some people who know what they are talking about and learn from them. Find an old Oracle or DB2 DBA or developer and talk to him. You know nothing about what a database is.
Thirdly, you are losing control of your application's performance. You have very little control over how the code will be optimised or run.
You've never used a database, obviously. I'll argue that there are zero high level programming languages that allow the granulaity of control that a real RDBMS allows.
Lock in is bad. OK, you'll be locked in whatever you do, but I'd rather be locked into Java or Python than PL/SQL.
You've never worked for a real company, have you? Front end app languages change more often than the weather, and in one company, many are usually used at the same time. One department uses VB, another uses Oracle Forms, another uses Java, another uses Perl. Companies don't change databases willy-nilly.
Seriously, I think that you should probably work with some real database people before you try building any apps on your own. You have a tremendous amount to learn.
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Oh wait it doesn't.
No offense intended, but you have no clue as to what you're talking about. This is why joe schmoe (ie: you) don't make good reporters. What you call a fact "advertising is what pays for the paper" is wrong. Circulation accounts for 25% of New York Times' Revenue.
This took me about 30 seconds to find. Before you start making up "facts", you should probably spend just a tiny bit of time researching.
No, by all means, go right ahead. I'm willing to hear them. I don't believe that news is something that can be "open sourced". Blogging is kinda' what you're talking about but blogs have -zero- integrity. Even one of the biggest on the Net (this one) posts all kinds of articles that are misleading, or flat out wrong. Journalism is a real skill... it's not something that just anybody can do. Blogs carry very little weight with most people except for other fellow bloggers. Even then, blogs usually rely on "real" news reports made by reporters for actual news. And yes, the NY Times isn't 100% (hence the scandal), but people know and understand that they have a real system in place to try to check facts and report real news, as opposed to Slashdot or other blogs which is a guy in his underwear writing whatever comes to mind. When you pay for a newspaper, or pay by trading your information, you're paying for journalists that have schooling that teaches morality in reporting (or is supposed to), and how to express facts in a relatively unbiased way. You're paying for fact-checkers. You're paying for people who physically go to where the news is. You're paying for research. You're paying for people to take the time to get the credentials to even get TO the news sources (ie: not any joe blow calling himself a "reporter" is going to be allowed into a White House press conference.
How dare you openly accept the fact that companies are asking intrusive information for exchange of information? We should not let this stand.
Why not? And what do you consider "intrusive"?
These companies make MUCH more on selling you out than they do from us buying the newspaper at an outlet. They are taking advantage of the general stupidity and willingness of the public to give up their info.
I love it when non-business people dream up the way that it should be, when in reality, they couldn't run a fucking lemonade stand. You know buddy, if you're such a financial whiz, and you can make a world class newspaper and give it out for free, you should! You'd make a goddamned fortune, like Rupert Murdoch or Ted Turner. Except that you'd be the "good guy". Since your business model is *so* great, you should have an easy time of it!
No, kid. I have experience. The products are virtually the same. They do the same ting, and one is as secure as the other. In fact, studies have shown that IIS is much faster than Apache in circumstances. Plus, ASP doesn't cost a dime. It comes with W2K Server.
And next time you quote some supposed article, try to at least point to a real article, and not a 404.
Kiddo, software and journalism are two different beasts. Anybody can code from their living room. Why they do it, I have no clue. But, do you know anybody who is going to fly to Iraq on their own dime, take pictures, write articles, publish their own newspaper, distribute it, for free? And even if someone is willing to do it, there's something called "jounalistic integrity" (ie: the opposite of Slashdot). People have to have some way of trusting said publication. For example, Slashdot, even though it is technically funded, has zero journalistic integrity. If a story is wrong or libelous, nobody really cares. The New York Times, on the other hand, has a lot of integrity, which is why when that lying sack of shit reporter was found out, it was a big deal. A very big deal.
I'm a firm believe in free hamburgers. It's such a pain to have to pay for them. What are you, 6? There's nothing free in life, kiddo. If you haven't learned that by the time you can make a /. post, then something is terribly wrong.
a. FUD
b. FUD
C. FUD
D. FUD
E. You are incompetent.
I would've written a better response, but anyone with a half a brain already knows that you're totally full of shit.
If you had taken the 10 seconds to read the rest of this discussion, you would've come across about 15 posts extolling the virtues of DVD Shrink.
Also, don't type all in caps. It makes you look like an idiot. And if you are an idiot (and all signs point to "yes"), then please go away.
First off, it wasn't a company that "took away your rights". It was a government lawsuit. Secondly, any company will do anything that it can to make a profit within the law. If you don't like the laws, then VOTE. Get this current batch of bastards out of office, and hopefully the new ones will be better. You have no right to bitch if you don't VOTE.
Are you kidding? That's not complicated? The only way it could be *more* complicated and convoluted is if you were also to tell me that I need to solder something onto my motherboard to get it to work. Compare this to ASP/IIS: either it comes already installed and running, or you end up putting a CD in the drive and clicking "next" a few times.
But then, you probably wouldn't know where to start if you had to change the oil or plugs in your car...
What business is it of yours? Your only concern should be as to whether or not it's a good value. Do you ask the grocery store manager if the box of cereal that you buy is artificailly expensive because of government grain subsidies (it is)? Now go away, and put your tinfoil hat back on.
ike a compiler. I don't care if your not a developer, if your using linux at some point you will want to install software that has to be compiled for your system
If a user ever has to learn the word "compile", then the piece of software is a failure, period. That's like saying that if you buy a Toyota, you're going to have to re-machine the cylinder heads *sometime*!
The only reason you have to reinstall Windows once a year or more often is that the Registry, .ini files and other system files gradually get corrupted
Or you just occasionally run a program supplied by MS or any other vendor that removes dead links in all of those places. There's no reason to re-install W2K or WXP any more.
Actually, in W2K/XP, you have the core dumps in case of a major crash, and event logs most of the rest of the time. But, writing to the event log is usually an application level procedure, so if an app crashes on you for no reason, and there's nothing in the event log, blame the app, not the OS.
Actually, my business' main file/print/mp3 server and back office machine (I'm using it now) is an "emachine". It's been running Windows 2000 Pro for 2+ years, with reboots only for occasional power outages. It's actually covered in dust, and doesn't have a cover. Nonetheless, we haven't had a single problem with it.
"Ok, heres what hardware is supported out of the box. Everything else is likely to be a headache".
And for most people, this already is a turn off. Most people don't know, and don't care (rightly so) what kind of video chip they have, sound card, etc. This is pretty much useless information. What Linux needs to do is to support generic, industry standards. It needs to support Soundblaster compatible cards. Generic video cards, network cards, etc. I mean, can you imagine buying something as simple (to you) as a car seat cover, and it coming with a list of spark plug manufacturers that it works with? Most people have no idea where the spark plug (or video chip information) is, never mind what they have.
MySQL is definitely ready for heavy loads
You're right. After all, it performs so well for Slashdot...
If we don't look, don't care, and don't know, all we have to do is change the code when someone else points out a problem.
Well, the law doesn't work like that. Ignorance is not a defense in any kind of law. If there's copyright infringing code that you're using, you're liable, period. It's up to you to A. Know where every line of code came from or B. Buy from somebody who IS liable.
The lesson that you should have learned is that you should not buy a piece of a non-profitable company. That was a stupid gamble.
Kid, you don't know what in the hell you're talking about. EDS is a mssive, global company that does hundreds of millions in sales a year. They handle systems for thousands of large companies. To say that EDS uses Windows is fucking moronic. A company as large as EDS, and doing as many diverse things as they do probably has every OS ever invented running somewhere in the organization. Sheesh. Slashdot needs some age requirements for posting.
Say, you may not get out much, but there are other ways to build an app besides on top of an SQL server. You'll note that Doom 3, Microsoft Word, and the Google search engine don't use them. You'll concede that those are all real apps produced by real companies, right?
Notice that I said app development with a database back end. I know that not every app uses a database. Not by a long shot.
A little reminder here: databases aren't made from magic pixie dust; they're written in other languages. An RDBMS can't be more granular than the language it's written in, it can only be less. Indeed, it probably should be less, as its purpose is to make development simpler, easier.
Oh, I understand that, but Oracle & DB2 & other "real" RDBMS' aren't written in high level laguages. With Oracle, at least (my experience), you can control queries and other processes down to the memory paging level. You can't control where *exactly* you put memory with C++ or Java. They have pointers, granted, but that's nothing compared to the fine tuning you can do in Oracle (which I've only *seen* done... I was a developer, not a DBA).
Every single app I've seen designed like this turned into an abject failure. That's about a half dozen. You're adding in a tremndous performance hit and complexity that is usually not needed if you have some good database people. All of the performance things that you talk about are available on RDBMS', and are more powerful than any of these new fangled middle-tier thingies.
Generally a database should be where the data is kept. Nothing else.
You know nothing about database-backed application development. I would recommend that you find some people who know what they are talking about and learn from them. Find an old Oracle or DB2 DBA or developer and talk to him. You know nothing about what a database is.
Thirdly, you are losing control of your application's performance. You have very little control over how the code will be optimised or run.
You've never used a database, obviously. I'll argue that there are zero high level programming languages that allow the granulaity of control that a real RDBMS allows.
Lock in is bad. OK, you'll be locked in whatever you do, but I'd rather be locked into Java or Python than PL/SQL.
You've never worked for a real company, have you? Front end app languages change more often than the weather, and in one company, many are usually used at the same time. One department uses VB, another uses Oracle Forms, another uses Java, another uses Perl. Companies don't change databases willy-nilly.
Seriously, I think that you should probably work with some real database people before you try building any apps on your own. You have a tremendous amount to learn.
So unless you like vendor tie-in... stay away from db-specific stored procedures
Actually, I'd say that if you're switching databases willy-nilly, you have much more serious problems.
SELECT COUNT(*) FROM a WHERE a.key NOT IN (SELECT key FROM b)
Actually, SELECT COUNT(1) FROM a WHERE a.key NOT IN (SELECT key FROM b) is much faster.