I know it isn't secure (by default), but that doesn't mean that I wish to route my traffic thru what would be a high value target if it gets a lot of users.
I didn't criticize Gmail and/or Google. I simply stated a fact which, if you had thought about the name of the email account, you should have been able to figure out yourself.
I do not use my gmail account for anything that important. I have email on my own servers for that, i mean that account has received almost 1000 spams since I made it, and my personal account has received 3 in the same time.
I also really don't care about a program looking at the contents to serve ads I care about people looking at my IM's and using that info to work against me.
I know they can, but they have much more to lose than this company does. The bad PR, for a large company, would far outweigh the dollar gains. That doesn't, necessarily, apply to a small startup.
Sorry, but I don't quite trust this service as they would be able to log every IM request that I send or receive.
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More interestingly, there are theories that some of the universe's fundamental dimensionless constants may have changed by a parts in a million over the last 10 billion years or so. These clocks are so accurate that they should be able to detect these changes over a year or two."
Please do not group all Christians into the same category as these people. Not all Christians believe that the government should be used to force our values down others throats. Besides, this isn't really about Christianity or religion, it is about power and the ability to control people.
Hell, if these people in congress really believed what they say they believe they would act and vote differently.
These are the same people who have said, at various times in the past, that rock and roll is evil/satanic, that PnP roleplaying games are evil/satanic, that music will make you kill and that guns, unlike everything else they wish to ban, are OK because they are just tools and harm no one.
They are totally incapable of being consistant and will do and say anything to stay in power. Look how many cheat on their wives.
The Dems are just as bad, HINT - Tipper Gore, Al Gore and a whole list of others from the Dem side of the isle that try to control things.
The only difference between the GOP and the Dems is that they wish to control different areas of our lives. Neither side wants smaller goverment, both wish to control us.
To: Lindykim "Modern science," Satinover said, "allows us to understand that the underlying nature of an addiction to pornography is chemically nearly identical to a heroin addiction."
So what? Religion does the same thing. Do you want to outlaw that too? 14 posted on 11/19/2004 3:20:30 PM PST by Viking is a verb (Maximun Freedom, Minimum Regulation)
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To: Lindykim
An addiction for which there is no cure; the outrageous tragedy is the introduction to young and curious minds. Once something is SEEN, the mind can never forget, and the rest you go figure, hence the Jeff Dommers (spelling?).
17 posted on 11/19/2004 3:24:11 PM PST by Paperdoll (on the cutting edge)
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I have to agree 100%. The sexual behavior the porn industry promotes is very perverted and way beyond normal. As far are the imagery, yes, I can recall quite a bit of the garbage mine eyes have seen. I'd rather be pure considering the crap I've had to endure.
I suppose the similarity is if each of us could recall the details of our first sexual encounter or extreme violent moment. Porn may have less of an indelible nature, but it does put our sex drive on warp speed (mine at least).
There's a difference between porn and tasteful art, and neither should be subsidized. The porn industry should be kept on a very very short leash as it is (and I prefer it to be gone completely). Scientific discovery (like researching the pornographic history of criminals) should reveal the true nature of porn. Likewise, we'd know rather than accept with wisdom the suffering men and mostly women suffer after abortion (of which porn entrepreneurs have always championed).
I hope more women drive this reckless sexual behavior away from what should be model manhood. Eventually, those that vehemently defend all porn of all kinds will expose themselves as the perverts they are. 30 posted on 11/19/2004 3:34:00 PM PST by SaltyJoe [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ] --==--
To: oldleft
There has been a lot of discussion about the relevancy of this post. I think it's very relevant. You guys want to critisize the "moral right"...but who do you think got George Bush re-elected? And didn't George Bush agree to a Pornography Protected Day? The point is pornography is very, very addictive. And most of the porno out there isn't your cute, bunnyrabbit Playboy stuff. Some of it is cruel, disturbing and outright dangerous.
34 posted on 11/19/2004 3:35:56 PM PST by mowkeka [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies ]
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You mean like Jimmy Swaggart and the hookers? Its always a classic when the types warn of hellfire and brimstone along with the threat of eternal damnation and then get caught hanging out in the seedier parts of town.
46 posted on 11/19/2004 3:41:55 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever) [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 38 | View Replies ]
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To: Lindykim I am not going to dignify equating one who enjoys porn with being a serial killer. Do a Google search on "straw-man arguments" and notice that it is under "logical fallacies." I, for one, am a conservative who reads Playboy, and I'm also an a college honor student. My parents have forgotten more pornographic images than I am ever likely to see, and I will certainly vouch for their character. It is "holier-than-thou" judgmental proselytizers that give conservatives a bad name.
If I wanted to live in a "nanny state," I would have voted for John Kerry. 81 posted on 11/19/2004 4:14:10 PM PST by newagepublius
They do not want to solve the problem, if they did they wound not pass fucked up laws that said if the person in the porn LOOKED like they where under the age of 18 it was child porn. IOW, if you took a picture of your wife and the judge thought she looked under 18, you would go to jail...
They just want to keep bringing this up every 16-18 months so they will look like they are doing something.
National Association for Research and Therapy of Homosexuality echoed Layden's concern about the internet and the somatic effects of pornography.
I am SURE that they are totally unbiased in this, I mean WTF where they doing testifying before congress on this issue? What happend to having experts on the topic at hand testify?
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I know it isn't secure (by default), but that doesn't mean that I wish to route my traffic thru what would be a high value target if it gets a lot of users.
It's about managing risk.
I didn't criticize Gmail and/or Google. I simply stated a fact which, if you had thought about the name of the email account, you should have been able to figure out yourself.
While it my not have a monatary cost, it is not free as they collect and sell info about you and your usage habits.
I do not use my gmail account for anything that important. I have email on my own servers for that, i mean that account has received almost 1000 spams since I made it, and my personal account has received 3 in the same time.
I also really don't care about a program looking at the contents to serve ads I care about people looking at my IM's and using that info to work against me.
Lastly, they do the exact same thing.
I know they can, but they have much more to lose than this company does. The bad PR, for a large company, would far outweigh the dollar gains. That doesn't, necessarily, apply to a small startup.
Sorry, but I don't quite trust this service as they would be able to log every IM request that I send or receive.
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Coceve may hire people or businesses to work with or for us on projects, such as performing security audits or providing customer support, in which they may require access to portions of your personally identifying information to do their job. Before we provide any such information to them, however, they must sign confidentiality agreements promising to protect that information, and if applicable, promise its return or destruction when the work is complete.
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Because /. is running a lot of ads for HL2 and they want people to click them.
It's that simple.
Really? Then explain Al Sharpton, Rev. Jackson, Bill Clinton and all the other Dem leaders who preach about it?
Also, Fallwell hasn't help a public office and one of the major supporters of fining broadcasters and hosts who break FCC 'rules' is a Democrat.
You need to educate yourself as it is obvious you lack the ability to think for yourself.
More interestingly, there are theories that some of the universe's fundamental dimensionless constants may have changed by a parts in a million over the last 10 billion years or so. These clocks are so accurate that they should be able to detect these changes over a year or two."
He called it "not quite a victimless crime"
It isn't a crime, or did I miss that law?
So, if I go to the bathroom during a commerical break I am now stealing?
Perhaps you need to fully think that over.
What about cooking at home? Should I have to get a goverment permit and take a class to buy butter?
Members of my family have been killed by drunk drivers, yet I do not blame the drink I blame the person who drank too much then got behind the wheel.
This blaming the tool/object for the actions of humans is completely and totally stupid.
Fast food and smoking also have very high health costs to 'society' so should they be made illegal too?
It would appear that I am trying to do that. If you would like to bankrole a large media campaign please let me know and I will do so.
Tipper Gore and the PMRC prove you wrong. So does the RAVE act (look how on of the major supporters was, he was a very high ranking DEM)
No, it isn't.
Read the FR religion forum sometimes. Most of the posters who post like that really appear to believe it as they have been doing it for years...
Point of fact, one ot the biggest supporters of issuing large fines to radio and TV stations at the FCC is a democrat.
Please do not group all Christians into the same category as these people. Not all Christians believe that the government should be used to force our values down others throats. Besides, this isn't really about Christianity or religion, it is about power and the ability to control people.
Hell, if these people in congress really believed what they say they believe they would act and vote differently.
These are the same people who have said, at various times in the past, that rock and roll is evil/satanic, that PnP roleplaying games are evil/satanic, that music will make you kill and that guns, unlike everything else they wish to ban, are OK because they are just tools and harm no one.
They are totally incapable of being consistant and will do and say anything to stay in power. Look how many cheat on their wives.
The Dems are just as bad, HINT - Tipper Gore, Al Gore and a whole list of others from the Dem side of the isle that try to control things.
The only difference between the GOP and the Dems is that they wish to control different areas of our lives. Neither side wants smaller goverment, both wish to control us.
Some of these people scare me, they really believe that if a man and wife perform oral sex on each other they should be put in jail.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1284238/p osts
To: Lindykim
"Modern science," Satinover said, "allows us to understand that the underlying nature of an addiction to pornography is chemically nearly identical to a heroin addiction."
So what? Religion does the same thing. Do you want to outlaw that too?
14 posted on 11/19/2004 3:20:30 PM PST by Viking is a verb (Maximun Freedom, Minimum Regulation)
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To: Lindykim
An addiction for which there is no cure; the outrageous tragedy is the introduction to young and curious minds.
Once something is SEEN, the mind can never forget, and the rest you go figure, hence the Jeff Dommers (spelling?).
17 posted on 11/19/2004 3:24:11 PM PST by Paperdoll (on the cutting edge)
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I have to agree 100%. The sexual behavior the porn industry promotes is very perverted and way beyond normal. As far are the imagery, yes, I can recall quite a bit of the garbage mine eyes have seen. I'd rather be pure considering the crap I've had to endure.
I suppose the similarity is if each of us could recall the details of our first sexual encounter or extreme violent moment. Porn may have less of an indelible nature, but it does put our sex drive on warp speed (mine at least).
There's a difference between porn and tasteful art, and neither should be subsidized. The porn industry should be kept on a very very short leash as it is (and I prefer it to be gone completely). Scientific discovery (like researching the pornographic history of criminals) should reveal the true nature of porn. Likewise, we'd know rather than accept with wisdom the suffering men and mostly women suffer after abortion (of which porn entrepreneurs have always championed).
I hope more women drive this reckless sexual behavior away from what should be model manhood. Eventually, those that vehemently defend all porn of all kinds will expose themselves as the perverts they are.
30 posted on 11/19/2004 3:34:00 PM PST by SaltyJoe
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To: oldleft
There has been a lot of discussion about the relevancy of this post. I think it's very relevant. You guys want to critisize the "moral right"...but who do you think got George Bush re-elected? And didn't George Bush agree to a Pornography Protected Day?
The point is pornography is very, very addictive. And most of the porno out there isn't your cute, bunnyrabbit Playboy stuff. Some of it is cruel, disturbing and outright dangerous.
34 posted on 11/19/2004 3:35:56 PM PST by mowkeka
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To: Rytwyng
You mean like Jimmy Swaggart and the hookers? Its always a classic when the types warn of hellfire and brimstone along with the threat of eternal damnation and then get caught hanging out in the seedier parts of town.
46 posted on 11/19/2004 3:41:55 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Lindykim
I am not going to dignify equating one who enjoys porn with being a serial killer. Do a Google search on "straw-man arguments" and notice that it is under "logical fallacies." I, for one, am a conservative who reads Playboy, and I'm also an a college honor student. My parents have forgotten more pornographic images than I am ever likely to see, and I will certainly vouch for their character. It is "holier-than-thou" judgmental proselytizers that give conservatives a bad name.
If I wanted to live in a "nanny state," I would have voted for John Kerry.
81 posted on 11/19/2004 4:14:10 PM PST by newagepublius
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They do not want to solve the problem, if they did they wound not pass fucked up laws that said if the person in the porn LOOKED like they where under the age of 18 it was child porn. IOW, if you took a picture of your wife and the judge thought she looked under 18, you would go to jail...
They just want to keep bringing this up every 16-18 months so they will look like they are doing something.
National Association for Research and Therapy of Homosexuality echoed Layden's concern about the internet and the somatic effects of pornography.
I am SURE that they are totally unbiased in this, I mean WTF where they doing testifying before congress on this issue? What happend to having experts on the topic at hand testify?
Now those in DC will try to get /. banned because this is an evil, scary device that terrorists might use for SOMETHING... ;->