I've given a lot of thought to things like Cooper pairs and Bose-Einstein condensates. It's part of the reason for the system I'm building. Science, unfortunately, doesn't have a revision system. So errors corrected decades later, might only slowly propagate within the field and may not ever make it outside of the field as the fields have narrowed so much. On top of this, data and interpretation of the data are usually intermixed and given equal truth values. So I'm building a system that will cleanly seperate all data from interpretation to aid in creating more accurate and/or practical descriptions. After all, we as humans (unenlightened) will only ever live within the descriptions we create, and their practicality always constrained by our ability to interact with that description.
As a totally unfounded belief, I think it has to do with Levels of Detail. The current description of a Cooper pair assumes that both electrons still exist, even though the data shows that everything that distinguished them as different disappeared. Same with BE condensates. So what if the math of reality is always: 1 = a distinguishable Atom; 1 + 1 = 1. Why must we assume that just because the electrons existed in the past and possibly in the future that they exist now? That's of course using a description that doesn't take into account probability fields and that most of the time electrons choose not to exist:)
When we change level of detail to examine something that no longer exists within our level of detail are we then still examining the same thing? Where does Human exist or rather, at what level do we exist? What are the organizing principles of unity? Are they the same for all levels? Why is it so hard to think anything besides they must be the same, perhaps the answer is that they are absolute yet relative?
Unfortunately too many questions not enough answers precisely because of all this mix up with data and their descriptions. I think Yoga has some congruent discriptions. Yoga, meaning union, is achieved by inner stillness. The 'cessation of movement' of the organizing principle "Me" results in union to a collective named "God" resulting in a transformation of your abilities. Pretty much like a BE condensate.
Of course, in Yoga they teach you how to quiet the "gross" vibrations first, starting with the physical, emotional, mental. This is where the astute observer can attest to the truth of this. Anybody who has reached a high level of mastery over any of those states can see that those who lack mastery seemed to be possessed by multiple personalities, two left feet, inconsistent and/or illogical beliefs. As if distinct entities are acting, usually at cross-purposes, to create one big sad mess.
Kids notice this right away. The jocks laugh at the nerds who can't seem to understand how to not move akwardly or even use their own eyes, but they make themselves feel better because those jocks can't grasp half the concepts they can. However, when mastered, there is no more conflict, all of ones energy can be harnessed and focused to the task at hand, becoming an effective tool...to work yourself out of the mess in the other two fields because rarely are we so well balanced.:) Each state mastered lowers the noise level, changing the Level of Detail you are perceiving, to hear your true vibration arising from, essentially, a string in string theory.
I only mention the yoga because they have an explanation for a how a being would exist in the first place. There is no reason why subjective truths shouldn't be congruent with objective truths. They are, after all, just descriptions of the same phenomena.
Honestly I'm not one to take anything a journalist says at it's face value. Even within the article linked it never specifically says the picture was purposefully meant as an illustration of what they built. Nor does it say anything about any claims that it is an Iranian design, all it says is Iran built it's first VTOL drone.
You know how sometimes people say here's what I'm building and show you the photo from the model car box?
Just seems like more of the same stupid propaganda that's always going on, haha, look how dumb and evil all our enemies are.
Well, I don't "feel" anything about it. It does seem intriquing... if you like getting lost (or finding the limits) in your own constructs. I wasn't familiar with it before you mentionned it, kind of gave up on math at 13 when I realized 2 important things. One, there are no such things as numbers in reality. Two, therefore all truths, and limitations, which are derivable from math are implicit in the axioms used in constructing the model.
You see, the problem with numbers is that there doesn't exist 2 of anything in reality. The concept of 2 is derived from generalizations of reality imposed by the limitations of our sensory apparatus. The halting problem exists in part because of the existence of this unknown layer between reality and our description of it(LOD).
I tend to think in reverse, start at the solution. Would the halting problem exist if every Atom knew it's capabilities and it's interaction result with every other Atom? The answer? Well, I'm still not finished my Lisp system, but here are somethings I've noticed. If an individual Atom knows of it's capabilities and restrictions, it will always know what to do in a given situation and therefore it can function as a known in any interaction, effectively reducing the complexity of determing whether it will halt or not. This 'knowing' can be easily granted in Lisp because code=data. The implementation problem is how does an individual Atom 'know' (besides individually programming) it's purpose and capabilities when it's being implemented in a system where all the limitation/interaction possibilities are not known? A learning observer has to be implemented dividing everything into absolute/relative, which can record and learn from it's interactions with other Atoms. Of course, the answer only becomes apparent once everything has interacted with everything else... now if only we could predict how long that would take we'd have a solution to the halting problem:)
Since an observer with awareness has to be introduced, what if our universe is just Garbhodakasayi vishnu sleeping on the halting problem?
Personally, what I believe is the halting problem only exists from our viewpoint within time and is a consequence of division of reality into interpretable units. After all, once you grasp the whole as a whole, there is no need to try and determine the boundaries of the whole using inferences of interactions between details.
A non-black non-raven is proof of absolutely nothing unless you've already established a rule that all ravens are black. It's relative. There is no paradox when you've implicitly created the rules.
They just seem to be baffled by the fact that creating a rule, i.e., creating a description/definition, has implications. The problem with logic is that it works with givens, and in reality there are no givens, we just have workable descriptions. Godel-Escher-Bach, rinse & repeat.
Oh, I know about usability, which is why I don't use windows:)
I was justing poking fun, I probably wouldn't have found it either:) As for my UID, that's due to forgetting passwords inbetween several hardware upgrades.
Actually, a lot of Leviticus makes sense from the viewpoint of a manual on HOW to live a healthy life given the knowledge and conditions of the time. Unfortunately, there's never an attempt at explaining WHY. haha, most people nowadays know so little about keeping healthy that they can't see the wisdom in the words.
Sometimes smart people can be really stupid. The paradox only exists in not understanding logic. Each link in a logic chain is dependent on the other links. Logic doesn't speak to truth but to relativity. Sometimes people confuse reality (well, actually, their subjective reality) with thought games... usually people who spend all their time in their mind.:)
You're in serious need of some courses in reading comprehension. I'm actually a little uncertain as to whether you are being serious.
Let me help you out here. Did you see ANY mention of licence in what I wrote? BSD=Berkeley SOFTWARE distribution, it's refering to the bsd operating system. I'm guessing you missed the irony part, since linux is a kernel and BSD is the whole package.
The irony of discovering Linux isn't BSD and doesn't having a good api & Xcode... Oh wait, that's not ironic and neither was your comment. Not to mention GNU/linux doesn't provide half these things.
I should add though, for people with morals and ethics, a mac is never the right choice.
Listen US'ian, your culturaly imposed bipolar disorder of black and white is just that, a disorder. Speaking against a stupid thought doesn't instantly make you a proponent of the opposite side.
Let me explain to you, effects don't require double blind studies to exist. Stupid science fanboi's can't seem to grasp the concept that absence of proof doesn't mean an effect doesn't exist.
Your skill in strawmen and mistaken assumptions is amazing. I also checked out that tripe blog you posted and it just unveils a cosmic joke of...um, cosmic proportions. A bunch of uneducated people saying, yeah, they dumb, we don't understand qm but they don't either, not realizing they're criticizing the opposites argument because it's rhetoric while they do EXACTLY the same thing. You're obviously a science fanboi with no actual logic skills, just follow the white coats.
Reading crap by others with irrelevant methodologies isn't going to help anything.
Maybe a couple of hundred grand and a testing facility. Starting off exploring the role of quantum tunneling in olfactory perception would probably be the easiest entry point.
Nowhere did I say I support con artists. I was merely pointed out the fact that the person was just stating a point of view, with an equally valid and stupid viewpoint. (Why? Because they both contain a grain a truth which stems from human greed.)
As for my comment on your stupidity, it has everything to do with the stupid comment you posted, which was basically a response to nothing. I did compliment you on your set up though, very smooth, nice seque into your tripe.
The truth is, there aren't enough double-blind studies on the workings of the human body to support the current BELIEFS of medical 'science'. Reading most medical studies almost physically disgusts me with how horrible their methodology usually is. Granted it's a side-effect of our societal beliefs, but it still doesn't give medicine much of a leg to stand on.
Thankfully, more stupid stuff that was taken as a given in the past is being tested and proven wrong. Unfortunately, the trickle effect of discounting something believed as true 2 decades ago, is extremely slow to reach everything that was built upon those false assumptions.
Hell, a large portion of the population still wears glasses because they believe that their eyesight is out of their control, it doesn't matter that that belief was proven false decades ago. Then again, who's in a rush to wipeout a billion dollar industry with a little bit of education?
umm, i guess I'm happy that you set your strawman up so beautifully and then got to spew your stupidity to everybody, but really, none of your stupidity has anything to do with what I said.
+4 insightful just goes to show that slashdot is getting stupider every day, though I'm sure we can all agree it died a few months back.
As for homeopathic cures, I have no opinion, but then again, I am smart enough to understand that my knowledge of quantum physics and entanglement are insufficient to make an educated opinion. You on the other hand, are stupid enough to believe you know everything. Congratulations.
If you are serious, send me a link. I would need to see standing, sitting postures, walking gait, and range of motion of the upper body to start.
I used to have chronic pain and various other problems for the first 35 years of my life. I'm much better after i decided to research the human body instead of having some average doctor with no ability for data synthesis just repeating things they've memorized by rote or been paid to advertize.
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As a totally unfounded belief, I think it has to do with Levels of Detail. The current description of a Cooper pair assumes that both electrons still exist, even though the data shows that everything that distinguished them as different disappeared. Same with BE condensates. So what if the math of reality is always: 1 = a distinguishable Atom; 1 + 1 = 1. Why must we assume that just because the electrons existed in the past and possibly in the future that they exist now? That's of course using a description that doesn't take into account probability fields and that most of the time electrons choose not to exist :)
When we change level of detail to examine something that no longer exists within our level of detail are we then still examining the same thing? Where does Human exist or rather, at what level do we exist? What are the organizing principles of unity? Are they the same for all levels? Why is it so hard to think anything besides they must be the same, perhaps the answer is that they are absolute yet relative?
Unfortunately too many questions not enough answers precisely because of all this mix up with data and their descriptions. I think Yoga has some congruent discriptions. Yoga, meaning union, is achieved by inner stillness. The 'cessation of movement' of the organizing principle "Me" results in union to a collective named "God" resulting in a transformation of your abilities. Pretty much like a BE condensate.
Of course, in Yoga they teach you how to quiet the "gross" vibrations first, starting with the physical, emotional, mental. This is where the astute observer can attest to the truth of this. Anybody who has reached a high level of mastery over any of those states can see that those who lack mastery seemed to be possessed by multiple personalities, two left feet, inconsistent and/or illogical beliefs. As if distinct entities are acting, usually at cross-purposes, to create one big sad mess.
Kids notice this right away. The jocks laugh at the nerds who can't seem to understand how to not move akwardly or even use their own eyes, but they make themselves feel better because those jocks can't grasp half the concepts they can. However, when mastered, there is no more conflict, all of ones energy can be harnessed and focused to the task at hand, becoming an effective tool ...to work yourself out of the mess in the other two fields because rarely are we so well balanced. :) Each state mastered lowers the noise level, changing the Level of Detail you are perceiving, to hear your true vibration arising from, essentially, a string in string theory.
I only mention the yoga because they have an explanation for a how a being would exist in the first place. There is no reason why subjective truths shouldn't be congruent with objective truths. They are, after all, just descriptions of the same phenomena.
You know how sometimes people say here's what I'm building and show you the photo from the model car box?
Just seems like more of the same stupid propaganda that's always going on, haha, look how dumb and evil all our enemies are.
You see, the problem with numbers is that there doesn't exist 2 of anything in reality. The concept of 2 is derived from generalizations of reality imposed by the limitations of our sensory apparatus. The halting problem exists in part because of the existence of this unknown layer between reality and our description of it(LOD).
I tend to think in reverse, start at the solution. Would the halting problem exist if every Atom knew it's capabilities and it's interaction result with every other Atom? The answer? Well, I'm still not finished my Lisp system, but here are somethings I've noticed. If an individual Atom knows of it's capabilities and restrictions, it will always know what to do in a given situation and therefore it can function as a known in any interaction, effectively reducing the complexity of determing whether it will halt or not. This 'knowing' can be easily granted in Lisp because code=data. The implementation problem is how does an individual Atom 'know' (besides individually programming) it's purpose and capabilities when it's being implemented in a system where all the limitation/interaction possibilities are not known? A learning observer has to be implemented dividing everything into absolute/relative, which can record and learn from it's interactions with other Atoms. Of course, the answer only becomes apparent once everything has interacted with everything else... now if only we could predict how long that would take we'd have a solution to the halting problem :)
Since an observer with awareness has to be introduced, what if our universe is just Garbhodakasayi vishnu sleeping on the halting problem?
Personally, what I believe is the halting problem only exists from our viewpoint within time and is a consequence of division of reality into interpretable units. After all, once you grasp the whole as a whole, there is no need to try and determine the boundaries of the whole using inferences of interactions between details.
Thinking rarely has anything to do with reality. It's all a pyramid of descriptions.
There's the problem, it SEEMS to you. You're trapped in the matrix and you don't know it.
They just seem to be baffled by the fact that creating a rule, i.e., creating a description/definition, has implications. The problem with logic is that it works with givens, and in reality there are no givens, we just have workable descriptions. Godel-Escher-Bach, rinse & repeat.
In a nomadic culture, killing off threats to the herd is EXACTLY the right thing to do. You think they're going to carry around jail cells? Hospitals?
You people are so Zeitgeisted. Yes, i just invented that.
I was justing poking fun, I probably wouldn't have found it either :) As for my UID, that's due to forgetting passwords inbetween several hardware upgrades.
If you enjoy that, just move to Nicaragua. There is no other way of giving directions.
Actually, a lot of Leviticus makes sense from the viewpoint of a manual on HOW to live a healthy life given the knowledge and conditions of the time. Unfortunately, there's never an attempt at explaining WHY. haha, most people nowadays know so little about keeping healthy that they can't see the wisdom in the words.
Sometimes smart people can be really stupid. The paradox only exists in not understanding logic. Each link in a logic chain is dependent on the other links. Logic doesn't speak to truth but to relativity. Sometimes people confuse reality (well, actually, their subjective reality) with thought games... usually people who spend all their time in their mind. :)
You're in serious need of some courses in reading comprehension. I'm actually a little uncertain as to whether you are being serious.
Let me help you out here. Did you see ANY mention of licence in what I wrote? BSD=Berkeley SOFTWARE distribution, it's refering to the bsd operating system. I'm guessing you missed the irony part, since linux is a kernel and BSD is the whole package.
I should add though, for people with morals and ethics, a mac is never the right choice.
What I can't grasp is the apparent age of your chess club and your UID don't match.
Let me explain to you, effects don't require double blind studies to exist. Stupid science fanboi's can't seem to grasp the concept that absence of proof doesn't mean an effect doesn't exist.
Your skill in strawmen and mistaken assumptions is amazing. I also checked out that tripe blog you posted and it just unveils a cosmic joke of ...um, cosmic proportions. A bunch of uneducated people saying, yeah, they dumb, we don't understand qm but they don't either, not realizing they're criticizing the opposites argument because it's rhetoric while they do EXACTLY the same thing. You're obviously a science fanboi with no actual logic skills, just follow the white coats.
Maybe a couple of hundred grand and a testing facility. Starting off exploring the role of quantum tunneling in olfactory perception would probably be the easiest entry point.
As for my comment on your stupidity, it has everything to do with the stupid comment you posted, which was basically a response to nothing. I did compliment you on your set up though, very smooth, nice seque into your tripe.
Thankfully, more stupid stuff that was taken as a given in the past is being tested and proven wrong. Unfortunately, the trickle effect of discounting something believed as true 2 decades ago, is extremely slow to reach everything that was built upon those false assumptions.
Hell, a large portion of the population still wears glasses because they believe that their eyesight is out of their control, it doesn't matter that that belief was proven false decades ago. Then again, who's in a rush to wipeout a billion dollar industry with a little bit of education?
+4 insightful just goes to show that slashdot is getting stupider every day, though I'm sure we can all agree it died a few months back.
As for homeopathic cures, I have no opinion, but then again, I am smart enough to understand that my knowledge of quantum physics and entanglement are insufficient to make an educated opinion. You on the other hand, are stupid enough to believe you know everything. Congratulations.
and just how many double-blind studies take place in medical studies on humans?
I used to have chronic pain and various other problems for the first 35 years of my life. I'm much better after i decided to research the human body instead of having some average doctor with no ability for data synthesis just repeating things they've memorized by rote or been paid to advertize.
Grow up all ready. Learn how science works, then learn about medical 'science'.
In fact, they can all be expressed in subjective terms, that's the beauty of truth. :)
I've always wondered why more engineers didn't see the repeating patterns after seperating the energetic details from the forms they work with.
Always two sides though.