And *I* will say *this* again: I know for an absolute, 100% fact that the world champion typist in the late 80's was at or near 200 words per minute.
200 cpm is pretty lame. Given an average 5 chars/word, that's only 40 wpm. Check the classifieds for typists/secretaries. Note the speeds being asked for. Minimum 40, usually 50, often 60 words per minute.
Instead of coming back with responses like "I just don't see..." or "I can't possibly believe..." why not go find a link that lists fast typing speeds as either wpm or cpm? -- MailOne
Just because you can't imagine it, doesn't make it false.
I have an electronic keyboard that plays a certain piece of music at 220 beats/minute. That's 220/60 = 3.6 beats/second. Since all of the notes in the music are quarter (or shorter) that's 12-16 notes/second. I've seen this piece performed by an actual human at roughly the same speed my keyboard plays it. Amazing, yes. Impossible, clearly not.
Piano and typing use a lot of the same hand movements--in fact, typing is EASIER since the keys are closer together AND don't require much force to press down. -- MailOne
"Typing CTRL-B is surely quicker than saying "bold on" surely?
But you have to take you hands off the home row to do this. Sure, it's a lot faster for the hunt-n-peck type. But for people who type relatively quickly AND work with several keyboards with different layouts, stopping to find ctrl and then hit "b" takes WAY too long. At least, compared to just saying with no pause in my typing.
-- MailOne
I've known people with 100+ wpm skills. Isaac Asimov claimed to type faster than he could talk and said this was about 100 wpm. And when I took typing in HS (for which I got a D, btw) our teacher (who was more excited about typing then I am about sex) went on and on about some championship she attended where the winner achieved 200+ wpm. -- MailOne
Voice *recognition* would be great for replacing the mouse as a selector tool. A lot of people only use the mouse to select menu items or highlight windows to accept input. It sure would be nice to not have to take my hands off the keyboard to do some of these things.
*type type type* Bold on *type type type* Mail window
*check mail* Read....Reply
*type type type* -- MailOne
"...you shouldn't have any problem with a partner reviewing it as you write it."
I have no problem with someone viewing my code. But as I write it? Over my literal shoulder? It's hard enough to think with phones ringing, loud conversations outside my cube and tech support questions every 10 minutes--I don't also need someone sitting behind me humming and clipping his nails.
You guys are all on a hair-trigger with the anti-machoism. I wasn't saying I didn't want anyone to see my code--I was saying I don't need company in an already small cubicle.
-- MailOne
"...if I had to resubscribe every time I use a new client."
You have to type your password into the new client--maybe we should store that on the server too?
"What if there was no last session for the client?"
Then everything is RECENT. I realize this loses you a feature, namely that you can't see only those messages in client B that you didn't see in client A. But you don't have that feature now. Why not? Because there is a race condition in the spec: if a message comes in AFTER the last time you check your mail (in client A) but BEFORE you logout (with client A) that message won't be RECENT in client B.
-- MailOne
Example: Why does ENVELOPE exist? It just lists header fields that could be obtained from BODY[HEADER]. All it really does is provide them in a different format--is that a job the server should be doing?
Example: Why are subscriptions stored on the server? That is client data. What if different clients (of the same user) want to subscribe to different folders? What if IMAP is being used as a front end to an existing mail system that can't have mods made to it?
Example: Why does the RECENT flag exist? First of all, it's client data. Second of all, if it didn't exist at all the client is perfectly able to calculate RECENTness just be storing the UIDs from the last session.
And these are the larger issues. It's a huge mish-mash of bizarreness--it's no wonder it's made almost no inroads against POP3, whatever the user-side usefulness (and I have to admit IMAP should be nicer than POP3). -- MailOne
As someone who is, as we speak, supposed to be implementing an IMAP server, let me say this: If the person who dreamed up RFC2060 says that X is "slow and dangerous" run, DO NOT WALK, to leap onto the X bandwagon--it'll be the wave of the future. -- MailOne
"(Since we know testing is good, we'll test everything and even write our tests first. Since we know short development cycles are good, we'll have a new cycle every three weeks. Since we know that communication is good, we'll put everyone in the same room.)"
And since we all know vitamin B is good, we'll take megadoses. Oops, megadoses of B are poisonous, we are now dead. More is not always better.
"Maybe when you grow up a bit you'll understand something about working with other people."
"Working with" other people is no problem. Enduring every little typo and thinko (not to mention spending hours at a time with a random coworker) is a totally different beast.
-- MailOne
RedHat development of a spell-checker: $2000
Eazel development of a spell-checker UI: $1500
A user that actuall checks the spelling of his words: priceless -- MailOne
It's a magazine and a website. It's mostly about how to setup your own renewable (largely solar, some wind, a little "other") energy generation. But they've also got some tips/tools for reducing usage. -- MailOne
I'm learning to play piano (although with an electronic keyboard) but I want to learn classical music, not modern stuff. I've found a couple of sites that have downloadable scores, but not much. This site will be invaluable.
On the downside, why is everything an FTP link? I'd really like to click on a MIDI or PNG link and have it just play/show--as it is I have to download the MIDI or score and view it "manually".
Also, can anyone answer me this: I download lilypond a few weeks ago (along with a million other required packages). Finally got it all installed and lilypond just crashes. Boom, it dies. Is there a mailing list or FAQ or something? -- MailOne
Yes. Every few weeks I'll have a little downtime. Yesterday was the worst in several months, though.
"Think Taco should do a front page post everytime/. goes down for equal treatment."
He used to. Back when he still cared about readers (and when he was a reader himself). Now Slashdot is just a "revenue stream" or "eyeball attractor" or whatever the current catch-phrase is.
-- MailOne
Luckily Taco only made fun of Microsoft's pages and products and not the fact that their DNS was down. Because I was unable to get to/. from about 2:00 on yesterday afternoon--no DNS entries. -- MailOne
What about porn that depicts a (fictional) rape? Should that be illegal because it'll "whet the appetite" of a rapist?
What about a movie that depicts graphic dismemberment of a corpse? It might "whet the appetite" of a serial killer. Silence of the Lambs
What about a movie that depicts a not at all graphic simple domestic homicide? It might "whet the appetite" of a spouse abuser.Almost any TV show
What about a BOOK, for crying out loud, that depicts any of these things (including fictional sex acts involving fictional children)? Lolita
These are all perfectly legal. I just don't see that the "simulated child porn is wrong" case has a leg to stand on. Therefore it'll probably pass unanimously... -- MailOne
I, like you, generally assumed that The Man was putting The First on Low Power Radio, until something happened. I heard a story about it on NPR.
First of all, there are several low power stations coming into existence (I think they said 500 licenses were granted).
Second, NPR itself also opposed the granting of low power licenses. They didn't say exactly why, although a broad statement about all opposition was given as being about "technical issues".
Granted, NPR has advertisers--but I trust their integrity a LOT more than commercial stations. -- MailOne
You are exactly right about the multiple datasource problems and lack of scheduling. I never tried to use Oracle funcs (although I was about to before I quit that job) so I can't speak to that. Never used the web server or the multiple versions either.
We even resorted to creating our own scheduler in VB using the CR VBX/OCX. Pretty ugly, but we eventually did it. -- MailOne
...who think that at least one paragraph was left out of this story? I have literally NO idea what he is talking about. I see a bunch of references to "Open Projects" and I see some answers that reference website software. Other than that, I have zero clue. If this were K5, I'd vote "-1 Dump it" with an editorial saying "rewrite to make clearer". -- MailOne
First of all, you should be able to set Access to "pass-through" so it doesn't care about your query syntax at all. (warning: it's been over a year since I did any report writing, used Access or wrote any SQL).
Second of all, why use "if()"? Create a defined field on the DB OR Access end and do the work there. -- MailOne
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"Well to be fair, if people make errors there should be a penalty."
You obviously have no clue what you are talking about. Errors ARE subtracted from wpm rates.
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MailOne
1) No, she was using Dvorak only at the 170 speed. The 150 was a standard keyboard. At least, that's how I read your quote.
2) The previous poster said this was a MECHANICAL typewriter. Electronic is MUCH MUCH faster.
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MailOne
And *I* will say *this* again: I know for an absolute, 100% fact that the world champion typist in the late 80's was at or near 200 words per minute.
200 cpm is pretty lame. Given an average 5 chars/word, that's only 40 wpm. Check the classifieds for typists/secretaries. Note the speeds being asked for. Minimum 40, usually 50, often 60 words per minute.
Instead of coming back with responses like "I just don't see..." or "I can't possibly believe..." why not go find a link that lists fast typing speeds as either wpm or cpm?
--
MailOne
Just because you can't imagine it, doesn't make it false.
I have an electronic keyboard that plays a certain piece of music at 220 beats/minute. That's 220/60 = 3.6 beats/second. Since all of the notes in the music are quarter (or shorter) that's 12-16 notes/second. I've seen this piece performed by an actual human at roughly the same speed my keyboard plays it. Amazing, yes. Impossible, clearly not.
Piano and typing use a lot of the same hand movements--in fact, typing is EASIER since the keys are closer together AND don't require much force to press down.
--
MailOne
"Typing CTRL-B is surely quicker than saying "bold on" surely?
But you have to take you hands off the home row to do this. Sure, it's a lot faster for the hunt-n-peck type. But for people who type relatively quickly AND work with several keyboards with different layouts, stopping to find ctrl and then hit "b" takes WAY too long. At least, compared to just saying with no pause in my typing.
--
MailOne
I've known people with 100+ wpm skills. Isaac Asimov claimed to type faster than he could talk and said this was about 100 wpm. And when I took typing in HS (for which I got a D, btw) our teacher (who was more excited about typing then I am about sex) went on and on about some championship she attended where the winner achieved 200+ wpm.
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MailOne
Voice *recognition* would be great for replacing the mouse as a selector tool. A lot of people only use the mouse to select menu items or highlight windows to accept input. It sure would be nice to not have to take my hands off the keyboard to do some of these things.
*type type type*
Bold on
*type type type*
Mail window
*check mail*
Read....Reply
*type type type*
--
MailOne
"...you shouldn't have any problem with a partner reviewing it as you write it."
I have no problem with someone viewing my code. But as I write it? Over my literal shoulder? It's hard enough to think with phones ringing, loud conversations outside my cube and tech support questions every 10 minutes--I don't also need someone sitting behind me humming and clipping his nails.
You guys are all on a hair-trigger with the anti-machoism. I wasn't saying I didn't want anyone to see my code--I was saying I don't need company in an already small cubicle.
--
MailOne
"...if I had to resubscribe every time I use a new client."
You have to type your password into the new client--maybe we should store that on the server too?
"What if there was no last session for the client?"
Then everything is RECENT. I realize this loses you a feature, namely that you can't see only those messages in client B that you didn't see in client A. But you don't have that feature now. Why not? Because there is a race condition in the spec: if a message comes in AFTER the last time you check your mail (in client A) but BEFORE you logout (with client A) that message won't be RECENT in client B.
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MailOne
http://slashdot.org/articles/00/10/12/1820241_F.sh tml
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MailOne
Didn't we already hear about this?
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MailOne
...until I started implementing.
Example: Why does ENVELOPE exist? It just lists header fields that could be obtained from BODY[HEADER]. All it really does is provide them in a different format--is that a job the server should be doing?
Example: Why are subscriptions stored on the server? That is client data. What if different clients (of the same user) want to subscribe to different folders? What if IMAP is being used as a front end to an existing mail system that can't have mods made to it?
Example: Why does the RECENT flag exist? First of all, it's client data. Second of all, if it didn't exist at all the client is perfectly able to calculate RECENTness just be storing the UIDs from the last session.
And these are the larger issues. It's a huge mish-mash of bizarreness--it's no wonder it's made almost no inroads against POP3, whatever the user-side usefulness (and I have to admit IMAP should be nicer than POP3).
--
MailOne
As someone who is, as we speak, supposed to be implementing an IMAP server, let me say this: If the person who dreamed up RFC2060 says that X is "slow and dangerous" run, DO NOT WALK, to leap onto the X bandwagon--it'll be the wave of the future.
--
MailOne
"(Since we know testing is good, we'll test everything and even write our tests first. Since we know short development cycles are good, we'll have a new cycle every three weeks. Since we know that communication is good, we'll put everyone in the same room.)"
And since we all know vitamin B is good, we'll take megadoses. Oops, megadoses of B are poisonous, we are now dead. More is not always better.
"Maybe when you grow up a bit you'll understand something about working with other people."
"Working with" other people is no problem. Enduring every little typo and thinko (not to mention spending hours at a time with a random coworker) is a totally different beast.
--
MailOne
Red Hat And Eazel To Parntner
RedHat development of a spell-checker: $2000 Eazel development of a spell-checker UI: $1500 A user that actuall checks the spelling of his words: priceless
--
MailOne
It's a magazine and a website. It's mostly about how to setup your own renewable (largely solar, some wind, a little "other") energy generation. But they've also got some tips/tools for reducing usage.
--
MailOne
Hey, she's a hottie! ...or is that a man?
Don't tell amihotornot.com about this technology...
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MailOne
I'm learning to play piano (although with an electronic keyboard) but I want to learn classical music, not modern stuff. I've found a couple of sites that have downloadable scores, but not much. This site will be invaluable.
On the downside, why is everything an FTP link? I'd really like to click on a MIDI or PNG link and have it just play/show--as it is I have to download the MIDI or score and view it "manually".
Also, can anyone answer me this: I download lilypond a few weeks ago (along with a million other required packages). Finally got it all installed and lilypond just crashes. Boom, it dies. Is there a mailing list or FAQ or something?
--
MailOne
"Are other users experiencing this?"
/. goes down for equal treatment."
Yes. Every few weeks I'll have a little downtime. Yesterday was the worst in several months, though.
"Think Taco should do a front page post everytime
He used to. Back when he still cared about readers (and when he was a reader himself). Now Slashdot is just a "revenue stream" or "eyeball attractor" or whatever the current catch-phrase is.
--
MailOne
Luckily Taco only made fun of Microsoft's pages and products and not the fact that their DNS was down. Because I was unable to get to /. from about 2:00 on yesterday afternoon--no DNS entries.
--
MailOne
What about porn that depicts a (fictional) rape? Should that be illegal because it'll "whet the appetite" of a rapist?
What about a movie that depicts graphic dismemberment of a corpse? It might "whet the appetite" of a serial killer. Silence of the Lambs
What about a movie that depicts a not at all graphic simple domestic homicide? It might "whet the appetite" of a spouse abuser.Almost any TV show
What about a BOOK, for crying out loud, that depicts any of these things (including fictional sex acts involving fictional children)? Lolita
These are all perfectly legal. I just don't see that the "simulated child porn is wrong" case has a leg to stand on. Therefore it'll probably pass unanimously...
--
MailOne
I, like you, generally assumed that The Man was putting The First on Low Power Radio, until something happened. I heard a story about it on NPR.
First of all, there are several low power stations coming into existence (I think they said 500 licenses were granted).
Second, NPR itself also opposed the granting of low power licenses. They didn't say exactly why, although a broad statement about all opposition was given as being about "technical issues".
Granted, NPR has advertisers--but I trust their integrity a LOT more than commercial stations.
--
MailOne
You are exactly right about the multiple datasource problems and lack of scheduling. I never tried to use Oracle funcs (although I was about to before I quit that job) so I can't speak to that. Never used the web server or the multiple versions either.
We even resorted to creating our own scheduler in VB using the CR VBX/OCX. Pretty ugly, but we eventually did it.
--
MailOne
...who think that at least one paragraph was left out of this story? I have literally NO idea what he is talking about. I see a bunch of references to "Open Projects" and I see some answers that reference website software. Other than that, I have zero clue. If this were K5, I'd vote "-1 Dump it" with an editorial saying "rewrite to make clearer".
--
MailOne
First of all, you should be able to set Access to "pass-through" so it doesn't care about your query syntax at all. (warning: it's been over a year since I did any report writing, used Access or wrote any SQL).
Second of all, why use "if()"? Create a defined field on the DB OR Access end and do the work there.
--
MailOne