I'm sitting on the curb of the empty parking lot of the store where they let me play the organ, thinking, don't let's start with that kind of rabid childish crap. You're saying that everything right is wrong again, which I wouldn't dismiss as just whistling in the dark if youth culture hadn't killed my dog. But since I'm in absolutely Bill's mood right now, I'll tell you this: Triangle Man's just a counterfeit fake. He's just a self called nowhere. Which, incidentally, describes how I'm feeling all the time.
Er, sorry, I was thinking of an unrelated thing. But I should be allowed to shoot my mouth off.
Not that the world screams, "kiss me, son of god," to Person Man, either. Since being hit on the head with a frying pan (which mussed his purple toupee), he spends his time wondering, "sad, sad, sad, sad, why must I be sad?" If he wasn't shy, he could just say, "no more Mr. Nice Guy," tell his boss that he's been fired, and spend his time sleeping in the flowers. But the big big whoredom scares him....
Universe Man? He's not the biggest one, and has no one to blame but his fat self. What a piece of dirt. Everybody and their racist friend believes that he's usually kind to smaller man. But you should be allowed to think: he's his own evil twin. Where your eyes don't go, a part of him is hovering, a part that's a hypnotist of ladies, a part that keeps moving my chair, a part that's the guy who hit me in the eye. But just narrow your eyes, turn around, and say: "Dig my grave! Come on and wreck my car! You're not going to change my clothes any more!" and you'll see that though squares may look distant in your rear-view mirror, you're actual size, and Universe Man often trembles as he steps aside.
So you and the girl with the crown and the scepter on WLSD must say that it's totally over now: since when the tour runs aground there aren't any more people around, Particle Man must win. But I say to all you women and men: I hope you haven't turned off your hearing aids (and that you open up your letterbox tomorrow), because now that I have everything, I see the things the stone has shown to me: Particle Man thinks, "a famous person wears the same size waterskis as me," "she's an angel," but he don't get around how she gets around. He just lays his head on the railroad track and stares at the sky all painted up, all those masses of incandescent gasses, each a gigantic nuclear furnace. He knows she's got something special that someone left behind, but he doesn't know that he's only one of many whose shoes are laced with irony.
A few more that aren't my favorite ones: I can't hear the call of the hall of heads, the lion's on the phone, dominoes (some call them snake eyes, but to me they look like nice), I've checked out the hotel detective (and I'm not about to forget about anything, and she certainly don't own the place), and the damn little bottle won't lie still.
So who can't I get rid of? Who can't I step on? Who must I not stop?
Spider. He is my hero. We love you, spider.
So, should I get beat up for stating my beliefs? Or, Mr. DJ, do we have a deal?
Jesse Ventura, where are you? The nation needs you! You're the only one with the connections, the expertise, and the lack of major party affiliation to do what needs to be done:
THIS ELECTION MUST BE RESOLVED WITH A TAG TEAM STEEL CAGE MATCHUP OF TITANIC PROPORTIONS!
Gore vs. Bush in a steel cage. Cheney and Lieberman waiting for the tag. Both houses of Congress on the sidelines threatening to turn the match into a full-on bicameral brawl!
There has never an opportunity like this before, and there probably won't be one again.
No - it magnifies the error. Slight fraud in one state (in this election, ANY voter fraud in Florida) can easily be magnified into an election-deciding event.
~200,000 votes would have had to have been switched under the popular vote metric. But only a few thousand votes tampered with using the electoral college metric could change the winner.
He can undoubtedly give a close approximation of the word's pronounciation but you can do that to a certain degree in Chinese as well.
You're really stretching here. You can give a close approximation to the sound of an unknown English word, but the phonetic element of a Chinese character (at least in my experience) pretty much serves as an aid to memorizing the pronunciation. It's not good for so much (and may not even be relevant) if you're just trying to guess.
but as you move more into the country Mandarin becomes less prominent.
Yes, but even in Kashgar, about as far from Beijing's influence as you can get, most people can speak Mandarin. True, Uighur tends to be the primary language, but you can get by there if Mandarin's all you've got.
Sorry, I had no idea you prefered your elected officials to lie to your face.
Yes. If they cannot lie to me, how are they supposed to lie to the investigations committees? If they cannot lie to the investigations committees, how are they supposed to stay in office? And if they can't stay in office, what good did my vote do?
I'll take a bald-faced liar every time, thank you very much.
Perhaps you misunderstand. I do not care whether Gore invented the Internet. I do not care whether he claims to have invented the Internet. I do not care whether he claims to have invented the transistor, electricity, the printing press, the wheel, or fire. I am simply sick of seeing that fucking quote EVERYWHERE I LOOK.
Let's make a quick list of what the Internet is responsible for, shall we?
bad patents
porn sites
that godawful "I created the Internet" quote that won't die
Napster and intellectual property theft in general
the "volunteer source" and "free support" software revolutions
Slashdot
Bush and Gore are quite right. These things are obviously harmful to children, and we need to take whatever means necessary to keep them away from the Internet. But that's not the entire story. Let's look at what else all of this does:
bad patents: stifle innovation
porn sites: throttle our children's morality
"created the Internet" quote: drives me up the wall
Napster: hurts artists
"volunteer source" and "free support": undercuts high-quality commercial software
Slashdot: spawns trolls
Look at this list - a veritable smorgasbord of undesirable influences and destructive tendencies, ready to crash our economy and subvert our morals. I think it's perfectly obvious that the Internet isn't something we want around at all, and I demand that our next president take full responsibility for thoroughly dismantling it in a timely manner.
because it will in fact bring about a stronger economy due to the fact that rather than having money tied in up in charitable foundations, it will be in more liquid forms, mainly equity. This is, as any student of economics knows, a good thing!
Correct. And, the more intelligent the person with all this money, the better the money will be used. The better the money is used, the more the economy grows. The more the economy grows, the more money we have. And, the more money we have, the more starving children we can feed.
Therefore, since I am more intelligent than any of you, if you do not send me all of your money, you are personally responsible for the deaths of starving children. Email me to arrange delivery.
The problem with business system patents is that you can take a business system that's been going on without a computer for centuries, make a single change of using a computer to perform it, and that is granted a patent. There is no real invention and no patent should be granted.
Uh, right.
This is the Computer, which Changes Everything, is the source of the New Economy and the New Intellectual Property and the New Licensing and the New Social Paradigm and the New Media and the New Politics, right? This is what you're talking about?
Given that this is what you're talking about, and, from what I hear, none of the tried-and-true wisdom of the offline world works in the online world: what, exactly, is so trivial about putting a computer into the process?
There are 100 U.S. senators, 435 members of the House of Representatives, 50 governors, 1 President, and countless local and state legislators and executives. You really think the idea that ALL of them are corrupt has any basis in truth?
Yes. The United States is a land of reprobates and sinners, all living their lives in the service of their great god Money. That nation is totally corrupt and completely without morals.
Here's some news; they're like us. Some of them are honest, some are not.
If by "us", you mean Americans, then they're all shameless money-grubbing scum.
A lot of them are trapped by the system; they need to accept financial contributions, or else they have no chance of getting elected.
Yes. And so is the mugger who took your wallet in the street, right?
Personally, I'm not. Politicians today aren't any better or worse than in the past, and the system has actually improved somewhat in the past few decades.
Typical blithering from the over-optimistic "everything's going to turn out just fine and I won't have to work again" generation. Please return to reality at the soonest available opportunity.
operating and / or tolerating the espionage system ECHELON, thus violating several patent protection laws
This is ridiculous. A worldwide automated spy network is such an obvious idea. I mean, what are you going to do, have real people looking through everybody's personal correspondence? Of course not! There's way too much! You'd miss a whole lot of really juicy, embarrassing, useful little bits of info if you weren't using computers to do automatic screening.
I think I'm going to patent "extracting oxygen from a heterogenous mixture of gases into the bloodstream". We'll see what they do then.
I hated that movie. Why do people feel compelled to mention it any time they see the words "gene" or "DNA"?
Can anyone say inability to get insurance because of a pre-existing genetic condition? Can anyone say FBI database of "potentially violent" people--like, say, most of history's greatest individuals?
Uh, not to rehash points made quite well in the Slashdot article just a few days back, but these would mostly benefit the average consumer and the average citizen, respectively. Most people would stand to gain a lot from compulsory DNA testing.
Yeah!! And you could met the clone of yourself several years down the road! And then lose a job to him, because he was cloned with the "Lazy" gene removed! Isn't that exciting?
Oh, please. This is ridiculous. Nothing to worry about for at least another century or two.
And, besides, that clone would certainly be more fit for the job that I would be, so what would the problem be?
And someone in the government could program a virus just to kill you!
Quit being ridiculous.
Or a terrorist could use the info to wipe out your entire family tree!!
Yeah, but he could also use currently available medical records.
Look at the history: Score: Chemical Weapons 2 Human Race 0 Nuclear Weapons 2 Human Race 0 Genetic Engineering ? Human Race ? Nanomachines Run Amok ? Human Race ?
You see the score that you want to see. Your paranoia is blinding you.
Imagine the convenience of having your genetic makeup automatically forwarded to your bank and insurance industry, so they don't have to ask those intrusive, embarrasing health questions on applications.
Wonderful idea - I should have thought of this earlier, given the Slashdot article on this earlier in the week. I think the posters there presented a pretty solid case for the benefits of this.
Now that's service to the people (if you happened to grow up on a farm, you know what I mean).
Ok, no need for condescension here, I catch your point. What's the problem here?
This is a great idea, but not just for the reasons that Mitnick says it is. A national DNA catalog would have the additional benefits of providing plenty of resources to medical researchers: imagine the benefits of being able to cross-reference this database with people's medical records! This would greatly benefit the development of genetic medicine.
This database could even be used, a few years down the road, to attempt to clone famous personalities or provide genetic material to hopeful parents looking for donors.
I'm sure I've hardly scratched the surface of the possible benefits here. There have to be a lot more possible upsides to this - does anyone have an idea I've missed?
This man does not share the belief that most/.ers have, that being, the government in inherently evil and trying to screw us over.
Ok. Maybe you don't believe this. But I believe it. And many other people believe it.
For instance, the people who wrote the US Constitution believed it. That's why they set up three branches of government specially designed to frustrate and impede each other. The US government is set up to do as little as possible. And for very good reasons: bureaucracies (and governments) expand to fill all available space. Go down to the DMV some afternoon and see for yourself.
It would be easy to say that he's just a governmen patsy, but that wouldn't be true.
Correct. He's not doing anything he knows to be wrong.
The man's being asked to do a job. He'll do it. And he honestly believes that there will be no problems with issuing his report afterwards. And, you know? He's right.
Ah.... I don't know. "Security" and "avoidance of embarassment" are very easily interchangeable.
The government isn't always out to screw us, people. Don't go bashing the guy for his point of view.
I'm not going to bash him, but I believe he's not suspicious enough. I might trust him as a person, but I'm still not going to trust his report.
But you see, if we recycle then we allow the people who produce recycled basic materials able to compete more easily with those who refine trhem from raw materials.
This is incoherent Marxist drivel. How is recycled junk supposed to compete with freshly manufactured high quality goods? I suppose you also maintain that low-quality "volunteer supported" software can compete with polished professional offerings.
This provides more competition. Obviously this is good since it drives the market.
This is competition in the same sense that Linux and Windows are in competition. This is nonsense. Windows is software for business professionals and Linux is software for filthy hippie Communists.
Please get your facts straight before posting again.
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Er, sorry, I was thinking of an unrelated thing. But I should be allowed to shoot my mouth off.
Not that the world screams, "kiss me, son of god," to Person Man, either. Since being hit on the head with a frying pan (which mussed his purple toupee), he spends his time wondering, "sad, sad, sad, sad, why must I be sad?" If he wasn't shy, he could just say, "no more Mr. Nice Guy," tell his boss that he's been fired, and spend his time sleeping in the flowers. But the big big whoredom scares him....
Universe Man? He's not the biggest one, and has no one to blame but his fat self. What a piece of dirt. Everybody and their racist friend believes that he's usually kind to smaller man. But you should be allowed to think: he's his own evil twin. Where your eyes don't go, a part of him is hovering, a part that's a hypnotist of ladies, a part that keeps moving my chair, a part that's the guy who hit me in the eye. But just narrow your eyes, turn around, and say: "Dig my grave! Come on and wreck my car! You're not going to change my clothes any more!" and you'll see that though squares may look distant in your rear-view mirror, you're actual size, and Universe Man often trembles as he steps aside.
So you and the girl with the crown and the scepter on WLSD must say that it's totally over now: since when the tour runs aground there aren't any more people around, Particle Man must win. But I say to all you women and men: I hope you haven't turned off your hearing aids (and that you open up your letterbox tomorrow), because now that I have everything, I see the things the stone has shown to me: Particle Man thinks, "a famous person wears the same size waterskis as me," "she's an angel," but he don't get around how she gets around. He just lays his head on the railroad track and stares at the sky all painted up, all those masses of incandescent gasses, each a gigantic nuclear furnace. He knows she's got something special that someone left behind, but he doesn't know that he's only one of many whose shoes are laced with irony.
A few more that aren't my favorite ones: I can't hear the call of the hall of heads, the lion's on the phone, dominoes (some call them snake eyes, but to me they look like nice), I've checked out the hotel detective (and I'm not about to forget about anything, and she certainly don't own the place), and the damn little bottle won't lie still.
So who can't I get rid of? Who can't I step on? Who must I not stop?
Spider. He is my hero. We love you, spider.
So, should I get beat up for stating my beliefs? Or, Mr. DJ, do we have a deal?
Bruce
THIS ELECTION MUST BE RESOLVED WITH A TAG TEAM STEEL CAGE MATCHUP OF TITANIC PROPORTIONS!
Gore vs. Bush in a steel cage. Cheney and Lieberman waiting for the tag. Both houses of Congress on the sidelines threatening to turn the match into a full-on bicameral brawl!
There has never an opportunity like this before, and there probably won't be one again.
What are you waiting for?
Bruce
~200,000 votes would have had to have been switched under the popular vote metric. But only a few thousand votes tampered with using the electoral college metric could change the winner.
Bruce
You're really stretching here. You can give a close approximation to the sound of an unknown English word, but the phonetic element of a Chinese character (at least in my experience) pretty much serves as an aid to memorizing the pronunciation. It's not good for so much (and may not even be relevant) if you're just trying to guess.
Bruce
Uh.... Mandarin is the Beijing local dialect.
but as you move more into the country Mandarin becomes less prominent.
Yes, but even in Kashgar, about as far from Beijing's influence as you can get, most people can speak Mandarin. True, Uighur tends to be the primary language, but you can get by there if Mandarin's all you've got.
Bruce
Yes. It's the only right thing to do. How else are we supposed to stamp out digital music piracy?
Bruce
Bruce
Yes. Nose hair, especially, I can't stand.
Bruce
Yes. If they cannot lie to me, how are they supposed to lie to the investigations committees? If they cannot lie to the investigations committees, how are they supposed to stay in office? And if they can't stay in office, what good did my vote do?
I'll take a bald-faced liar every time, thank you very much.
Bruce
Hope this helps.
Love,
Bruce
Bush and Gore are quite right. These things are obviously harmful to children, and we need to take whatever means necessary to keep them away from the Internet. But that's not the entire story. Let's look at what else all of this does:
bad patents: stifle innovation
porn sites: throttle our children's morality
"created the Internet" quote: drives me up the wall
Napster: hurts artists
"volunteer source" and "free support": undercuts high-quality commercial software
Slashdot: spawns trolls
Look at this list - a veritable smorgasbord of undesirable influences and destructive tendencies, ready to crash our economy and subvert our morals. I think it's perfectly obvious that the Internet isn't something we want around at all, and I demand that our next president take full responsibility for thoroughly dismantling it in a timely manner.
Thank you.
Bruce
Correct. And, the more intelligent the person with all this money, the better the money will be used. The better the money is used, the more the economy grows. The more the economy grows, the more money we have. And, the more money we have, the more starving children we can feed.
Therefore, since I am more intelligent than any of you, if you do not send me all of your money, you are personally responsible for the deaths of starving children. Email me to arrange delivery.
Thank you.
Bruce
Uh, right.
This is the Computer, which Changes Everything, is the source of the New Economy and the New Intellectual Property and the New Licensing and the New Social Paradigm and the New Media and the New Politics, right? This is what you're talking about?
Given that this is what you're talking about, and, from what I hear, none of the tried-and-true wisdom of the offline world works in the online world: what, exactly, is so trivial about putting a computer into the process?
Bruce
Yes. The United States is a land of reprobates and sinners, all living their lives in the service of their great god Money. That nation is totally corrupt and completely without morals.
Here's some news; they're like us. Some of them are honest, some are not.
If by "us", you mean Americans, then they're all shameless money-grubbing scum.
A lot of them are trapped by the system; they need to accept financial contributions, or else they have no chance of getting elected.
Yes. And so is the mugger who took your wallet in the street, right?
Personally, I'm not. Politicians today aren't any better or worse than in the past, and the system has actually improved somewhat in the past few decades.
Typical blithering from the over-optimistic "everything's going to turn out just fine and I won't have to work again" generation. Please return to reality at the soonest available opportunity.
Bruce
No, I understand. It's because they don't have any money to think about.
there are some [politicians] left with ethical driven visions of what's right and what's not.
Moderators: +1, Funny, please!
I suppose that's an "exotic" thought especially for americans.
Yes. This is because Americans are not easily duped.
Bruce
This is ridiculous. A worldwide automated spy network is such an obvious idea. I mean, what are you going to do, have real people looking through everybody's personal correspondence? Of course not! There's way too much! You'd miss a whole lot of really juicy, embarrassing, useful little bits of info if you weren't using computers to do automatic screening.
I think I'm going to patent "extracting oxygen from a heterogenous mixture of gases into the bloodstream". We'll see what they do then.
Bruce
I hated that movie. Why do people feel compelled to mention it any time they see the words "gene" or "DNA"?
Can anyone say inability to get insurance because of a pre-existing genetic condition? Can anyone say FBI database of "potentially violent" people--like, say, most of history's greatest individuals?
Uh, not to rehash points made quite well in the Slashdot article just a few days back, but these would mostly benefit the average consumer and the average citizen, respectively. Most people would stand to gain a lot from compulsory DNA testing.
Bruce
Oh, please. This is ridiculous. Nothing to worry about for at least another century or two.
And, besides, that clone would certainly be more fit for the job that I would be, so what would the problem be?
And someone in the government could program a virus just to kill you!
Quit being ridiculous.
Or a terrorist could use the info to wipe out your entire family tree!!
Yeah, but he could also use currently available medical records.
Look at the history: Score: Chemical Weapons 2 Human Race 0 Nuclear Weapons 2 Human Race 0 Genetic Engineering ? Human Race ? Nanomachines Run Amok ? Human Race ?
You see the score that you want to see. Your paranoia is blinding you.
Bruce
Wonderful idea - I should have thought of this earlier, given the Slashdot article on this earlier in the week. I think the posters there presented a pretty solid case for the benefits of this.
Now that's service to the people (if you happened to grow up on a farm, you know what I mean).
Ok, no need for condescension here, I catch your point. What's the problem here?
Bruce
This database could even be used, a few years down the road, to attempt to clone famous personalities or provide genetic material to hopeful parents looking for donors.
I'm sure I've hardly scratched the surface of the possible benefits here. There have to be a lot more possible upsides to this - does anyone have an idea I've missed?
Bruce
Don't you know there are severe penalties for penetration without prior consent?
Bruce
We're breathlessly awaiting a patch.
Bruce
This man does not share the belief that most
Ok. Maybe you don't believe this. But I believe it. And many other people believe it.
For instance, the people who wrote the US Constitution believed it. That's why they set up three branches of government specially designed to frustrate and impede each other. The US government is set up to do as little as possible. And for very good reasons: bureaucracies (and governments) expand to fill all available space. Go down to the DMV some afternoon and see for yourself.
It would be easy to say that he's just a governmen patsy, but that wouldn't be true.
Correct. He's not doing anything he knows to be wrong.
The man's being asked to do a job. He'll do it. And he honestly believes that there will be no problems with issuing his report afterwards. And, you know? He's right.
Ah.... I don't know. "Security" and "avoidance of embarassment" are very easily interchangeable.
The government isn't always out to screw us, people. Don't go bashing the guy for his point of view.
I'm not going to bash him, but I believe he's not suspicious enough. I might trust him as a person, but I'm still not going to trust his report.
Bruce
Wonderful! An easy fix! Just tell me where I can buy some!
Oh.
Never mind. Screw this. I'm not voting for you.
Bruce
This is incoherent Marxist drivel. How is recycled junk supposed to compete with freshly manufactured high quality goods? I suppose you also maintain that low-quality "volunteer supported" software can compete with polished professional offerings.
This provides more competition. Obviously this is good since it drives the market.
This is competition in the same sense that Linux and Windows are in competition. This is nonsense. Windows is software for business professionals and Linux is software for filthy hippie Communists.
Please get your facts straight before posting again.
Thank you.
Bruce