Are we about to hear yet another lecture on how being a so-called "convicted" monopoly means that MS can't take a shit without clearing it with DOJ and the EU?
What new precedent would be set? That violating a patent can cost you - I think that's pretty well established already.
The problem is that some people are so Linux-centered that they project it on to other people and systems. If MS were to win their case, it wouldn't make it easier to sue any other organization that happens to use linux in their products - only those organizations who violate the patents in question.
Any other organizations that violate those patents would be in exactly the same position even if they didn't use Linux.
There's certainly no vb code involved in booting Windows. kde and gnome are certainly not equivalent to COM in any way. It doesn't sound like you know much about how Windows works.
"Uh, under capitalism, Bob gets 100% the result of his work, i.e. 0.000X%. Whereas Jack gets the fruits of his labor, which is far more than Bob."
Actually, if Bob is a CEO of a bank he probably gets about $10,000 for every $1 he lost for his company.
There's never been a strong correlation in the US between how hard you work and how much money you make and in the last 30 years the connection has gotten weaker.
It's nice to see Scott McNealy going back to what he does best: obsess over Bill Gates and MS. I'm sure it will be as effective for the government as it was for Sun.
"As much as I like Linux, I don't think I ever brought into the "unix" way. Communicating via text is fine, but it doesn't seem really efficient."
I have a background in traditional embedded systems and the idea that OS's like Linux actually call text-based command-line tools before the system boots boggles my mind.
Unix definitely served the needs of the times it was created in (i.e. small programs performing small tasks).
"Yeah, well I'm talking about services (in the traditional sense) being offered over via web pages displayed in a web browser. What would you have me call those services?"
I (and everybody but you) call those web applications.
Did they ask you for your assembly code when you interviewed for your first job back in 1979?
Or did you mean that sometimes they ask you for code even though you have 30 years of experience?
Of course, I'm fully aware that having more than 15 years experience can be more of a liability than an asset in some circles. You were able to hold your own in assembly but the clueless may think you can't handle javascript.
"Avoid using common terminology because of some obscure technical usage? Thanks for the advice, but I think I'll stick to my own word choice."
It's up to you, but the common use of the term "web services" is not about browsers. You don't have to admit to me that you're wrong, but I suggest you quietly ask one of your developer friends about it. You don't want people to be laughing behind your back.
"I'm talking about services delivered over the web, i.e. through a web browser."
You should avoid using the term "web services" if you are talking about a browser app.
I think MS is trying to be as standards complaint as it can without breaking existing web pages. The customer for a browser is the "browsee", not the web developers or a standards committee.
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"I believe it would be "telling of intentions" if the public was informed as to "Why is Tom Tom selected first"
I think most of the general public would either respond with "What is Tom Tom?" or "I didn't know Microsoft made musical instruments."
Are we about to hear yet another lecture on how being a so-called "convicted" monopoly means that MS can't take a shit without clearing it with DOJ and the EU?
Depending on your perspective, most patents can be considered obvious and patenting other people's ideas is standard procedure.
MS isn't any better or worse than most patent holders.
What new precedent would be set? That violating a patent can cost you - I think that's pretty well established already.
The problem is that some people are so Linux-centered that they project it on to other people and systems. If MS were to win their case, it wouldn't make it easier to sue any other organization that happens to use linux in their products - only those organizations who violate the patents in question.
Any other organizations that violate those patents would be in exactly the same position even if they didn't use Linux.
"(cue the off-topic/flamebait/troll-markers against me...)"
I've heard of begging the question, but I've never heard of begging the moderation.
"Speaking of patriotism, did anyone notice how disagreeing with the last president was considered patriotic"
Sure, just ask Bill Maher.
"Analyzing Microsoft's FAT Lawsuit"
Sorry Linux, Microsoft just isn't that into you.
It's rare to combine Ad hominem argument and beg the question in the same sentence.
Many companies aren't interested in any experience you weren't paid for - they're looking for professional experience.
Besides, once you have more than 10 years experience a few months more is just in the noise.
There's certainly no vb code involved in booting Windows. kde and gnome are certainly not equivalent to COM in any way. It doesn't sound like you know much about how Windows works.
And the best part is that if you forget your reader at the beach, you don't have to bother going back to get it because it will be gone!
That would be US auto makers.
Perhaps if we agreed to investigate whatever boring thing they are into, they could agree to investigate these boring things we are into.
"Uh, under capitalism, Bob gets 100% the result of his work, i.e. 0.000X%. Whereas Jack gets the fruits of his labor, which is far more than Bob."
Actually, if Bob is a CEO of a bank he probably gets about $10,000 for every $1 he lost for his company.
There's never been a strong correlation in the US between how hard you work and how much money you make and in the last 30 years the connection has gotten weaker.
It's nice to see Scott McNealy going back to what he does best: obsess over Bill Gates and MS. I'm sure it will be as effective for the government as it was for Sun.
Things may have changed but the last time I tried using Eclipse for C++ development I found that it compared favorably with Visual Studio 97.
"As much as I like Linux, I don't think I ever brought into the "unix" way. Communicating via text is fine, but it doesn't seem really efficient."
I have a background in traditional embedded systems and the idea that OS's like Linux actually call text-based command-line tools before the system boots boggles my mind.
Unix definitely served the needs of the times it was created in (i.e. small programs performing small tasks).
I'm done. Use terms anyway you like.
"Yeah, well I'm talking about services (in the traditional sense) being offered over via web pages displayed in a web browser. What would you have me call those services?"
I (and everybody but you) call those web applications.
Did they ask you for your assembly code when you interviewed for your first job back in 1979?
Or did you mean that sometimes they ask you for code even though you have 30 years of experience?
Of course, I'm fully aware that having more than 15 years experience can be more of a liability than an asset in some circles. You were able to hold your own in assembly but the clueless may think you can't handle javascript.
"Avoid using common terminology because of some obscure technical usage? Thanks for the advice, but I think I'll stick to my own word choice."
It's up to you, but the common use of the term "web services" is not about browsers. You don't have to admit to me that you're wrong, but I suggest you quietly ask one of your developer friends about it. You don't want people to be laughing behind your back.
Was your point to interpret "jobs suffer" in a different way than most people would? Otherwise, I don't get the connection.
If I'm just plain clueless here, you don't need to waste your time explaining it to me.
"I'm talking about services delivered over the web, i.e. through a web browser."
You should avoid using the term "web services" if you are talking about a browser app.
I think MS is trying to be as standards complaint as it can without breaking existing web pages. The customer for a browser is the "browsee", not the web developers or a standards committee.
But what was your point?
Linus didn't need corporate sponsorship because his country has a real safety net. For those of us who live in the US, it's a different story.