And indeed, I find Apple's claim that their two core ARM outperforms nVidia's 4 core ARM with Apple's chip running at a lower clock on a cruder process, difficult to swallow. Impossible even. But much in keeping with Apple's general attitude towards honesty these days.
...Not to mention dealing with the enraged fanboids that raise hell about bugs in the app they pirated to begin with...
Get real, those are the best testers you never paid. On the other hand, if you regard all your most avid fans as thieves I guess you can stop worrying about development issues because you will not be in business long.
By the way, while you are bleating on about how hard Android development is, perhaps you can explain why Android apps crash less than Apple apps
Wow, I wonder why Apple astroturfing shills hate the idea that Android apps crash less than Apple apps?
And indeed, I find Apple's claim that their two core ARM outperforms nVidia's 4 core ARM with Apple's chip running at a lower clock on a cruder process, difficult to swallow. Impossible even. But much in keeping with Apple's general attitude towards honesty these days.
You mean, numbers are meaningless because Apple customers can't count past 2? (Joke guys, joke. Never mind that Apple marketing apparently can't count past two)
My take on it: 1) Apple needs Qualcomm's LTE modem, leaving little room for alternatives for that tablet model. 2) Apple wants to keep its margins up and having only one processor design saves some money there 3) Reality distortion goes into overdrive to distract Apple fans from the reality that the ipad Wifi model is actually slower than the new round of Android tablets using quad core processors at 40 nm.
Does using the tablet have smooth and instant responsiveness? At the end of the day, that's all that matters.
Well, my experience with Ipad 2 is that it has frequent stalls and responsiveness problems, so I guess it matters, and I guess Apple has not addressed that. Good.
And indeed, I find Apple's claim that their two core ARM outperforms nVidia's 4 core ARM with Apple's chip running at a lower clock on a cruder process, difficult to swallow. Impossible even. But much in keeping with Apple's general attitude towards honesty these days.
I don't get your question, it seems to evade the issue. The bottom line is, did the app crash or not? "Apps behaving strangely" is another question entirely, and I do not have any good data on it, do you? But we have some data on total crashes. I would naturally tend to assume it has a lot to do with quality of developer, but of course that is just elitist me.
...Not to mention dealing with the enraged fanboids that raise hell about bugs in the app they pirated to begin with...
Get real, those are the best testers you never paid. On the other hand, if you regard all your most avid fans as thieves I guess you can stop worrying about development issues because you will not be in business long.
By the way, while you are bleating on about how hard Android development is, perhaps you can explain why Android apps crash less than Apple apps
So all I'd have to do get a couple of free phones is to send an email claiming I'm an Android developer?
True. You have to claim you're a competent one, and be able to prove it.
Well, all you Apple cultists in this thread, it moves me indeed that you hold such great concern for the welfare of Android devs, whether they can get hold of the hardware they need, whether it is free or not, and so forth. But don't get too teared up, Android devs are doing just fine judging by the number of Android apps in the market, apparently already more than Apple apps and accelerating.
Of course, what I mainly care about is the number of free as in Freedom apps, vastly greater on Android than Apple. Because Android has free distribution whereas Apple is just one giant, shameless paywall.
I worked for a fairly major provider of white-label VOIP software, and we where mostly hired by telcos to produce VOIP apps branded to the telco. In hundreds of those contracts I can not remember a single instance where the manufacturers of the handsets provided us with free handsets. Sometimes the *client* would provide one or two...
You were hired by telcos to write voip apps and the telcos did not give you the hardware you needed to do your job? Or pay for it? Please excuse me if I mark your cred down to zero. Or maybe negative.
It's actually an invitation for a more aggressive developer to pick up on the concept and drop their own game into the slot. It's not like the barrier to entry is high.
I suspect they just want to point fingers and absolve themselves of horrible coding practices.
I suspect they made a legitimate decision to consolidate their development effort in light of not making very much money on either platform, Apple PR droids got wind of it, and next thing you know there is a rather obviously lopsided article planted.
1) You're basing a conclusion on numbers you're pulling out of your ass.
Not at all, I used the number from the article, or didn't you read it? Giving the benefit of the doubt of course, because in truth I believe the whole little drama to be pretty much the sort of fiction we have come to expect from Apple
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Apple doesn't play too lose with marketing statistics?
Apple plays loose with everything else, why should they not play loose with benchmarks?
And indeed, I find Apple's claim that their two core ARM outperforms nVidia's 4 core ARM with Apple's chip running at a lower clock on a cruder process, difficult to swallow. Impossible even. But much in keeping with Apple's general attitude towards honesty these days.
OK Apple astroturfer shills, have at.
Looks like you Apple Astroturfers are right on top of things.
Apple Astroturfers still out and about. Apple descends further into moral decrepitude
...Not to mention dealing with the enraged fanboids that raise hell about bugs in the app they pirated to begin with...
Get real, those are the best testers you never paid. On the other hand, if you regard all your most avid fans as thieves I guess you can stop worrying about development issues because you will not be in business long.
By the way, while you are bleating on about how hard Android development is, perhaps you can explain why Android apps crash less than Apple apps
Wow, I wonder why Apple astroturfing shills hate the idea that Android apps crash less than Apple apps?
Apple doesn't play too lose with marketing statistics?
Apple plays loose with everything else, why should they not play loose with benchmarks?
And indeed, I find Apple's claim that their two core ARM outperforms nVidia's 4 core ARM with Apple's chip running at a lower clock on a cruder process, difficult to swallow. Impossible even. But much in keeping with Apple's general attitude towards honesty these days.
OK Apple astroturfer shills, have at.
Looks like you Apple Astroturfers are right on top of things.
You mean, numbers are meaningless because Apple customers can't count past 2? (Joke guys, joke. Never mind that Apple marketing apparently can't count past two)
My take on it: 1) Apple needs Qualcomm's LTE modem, leaving little room for alternatives for that tablet model. 2) Apple wants to keep its margins up and having only one processor design saves some money there 3) Reality distortion goes into overdrive to distract Apple fans from the reality that the ipad Wifi model is actually slower than the new round of Android tablets using quad core processors at 40 nm.
Consumers just care about experience, how they get there isn't of interest to anyone other than nerds.
True, but then why is Apple boasting about 2x, 4x, whatever?
Ah, because performance is important, except when Apple doesn't have it?
Does using the tablet have smooth and instant responsiveness? At the end of the day, that's all that matters.
Well, my experience with Ipad 2 is that it has frequent stalls and responsiveness problems, so I guess it matters, and I guess Apple has not addressed that. Good.
Apple doesn't play too lose with marketing statistics?
Apple plays loose with everything else, why should they not play loose with benchmarks?
And indeed, I find Apple's claim that their two core ARM outperforms nVidia's 4 core ARM with Apple's chip running at a lower clock on a cruder process, difficult to swallow. Impossible even. But much in keeping with Apple's general attitude towards honesty these days.
OK Apple astroturfer shills, have at.
What is the Android equivalent of DirectX?
OpenGL ES, the same as iPhone.
If licenses term are violated, I think you lose the right to use the software under any licenses.
You think wrong. You need to get out there and actually read some open source licenses.
I don't get your question, it seems to evade the issue. The bottom line is, did the app crash or not? "Apps behaving strangely" is another question entirely, and I do not have any good data on it, do you? But we have some data on total crashes. I would naturally tend to assume it has a lot to do with quality of developer, but of course that is just elitist me.
...Not to mention dealing with the enraged fanboids that raise hell about bugs in the app they pirated to begin with...
Get real, those are the best testers you never paid. On the other hand, if you regard all your most avid fans as thieves I guess you can stop worrying about development issues because you will not be in business long.
By the way, while you are bleating on about how hard Android development is, perhaps you can explain why Android apps crash less than Apple apps
Seconded. Built a little more "sturdy" than some, but build quality is excellent, performance is flawless, features are complete. It works for me.
...the only game worth installing is angry birds...
You haven't played Fruit Slice?
So all I'd have to do get a couple of free phones is to send an email claiming I'm an Android developer?
True. You have to claim you're a competent one, and be able to prove it.
Well, all you Apple cultists in this thread, it moves me indeed that you hold such great concern for the welfare of Android devs, whether they can get hold of the hardware they need, whether it is free or not, and so forth. But don't get too teared up, Android devs are doing just fine judging by the number of Android apps in the market, apparently already more than Apple apps and accelerating.
Of course, what I mainly care about is the number of free as in Freedom apps, vastly greater on Android than Apple. Because Android has free distribution whereas Apple is just one giant, shameless paywall.
I worked for a fairly major provider of white-label VOIP software, and we where mostly hired by telcos to produce VOIP apps branded to the telco. In hundreds of those contracts I can not remember a single instance where the manufacturers of the handsets provided us with free handsets. Sometimes the *client* would provide one or two...
You were hired by telcos to write voip apps and the telcos did not give you the hardware you needed to do your job? Or pay for it? Please excuse me if I mark your cred down to zero. Or maybe negative.
...the sort of fiction we have come to expect from Apple
It's actually an invitation for a more aggressive developer to pick up on the concept and drop their own game into the slot. It's not like the barrier to entry is high.
According to you, anyone who calls out Apple on ethics is confused.
Hey, don't shoot the messenger. It wasn't me who did all those unethical things. If you want it to stop, send Tim Cook an email.
I suspect they just want to point fingers and absolve themselves of horrible coding practices.
I suspect they made a legitimate decision to consolidate their development effort in light of not making very much money on either platform, Apple PR droids got wind of it, and next thing you know there is a rather obviously lopsided article planted.
That would mean iOS gets 19 sales for every 1 sale Android gets.
It smacks of wild exaggeration.
e.g., how do you find all user-writable storage without going down to /proc/mounts
Scraping /proc/mounts is hard?
1) You're basing a conclusion on numbers you're pulling out of your ass.
Not at all, I used the number from the article, or didn't you read it? Giving the benefit of the doubt of course, because in truth I believe the whole little drama to be pretty much the sort of fiction we have come to expect from Apple
...when it's Android, spending $thousands on test hardware is neither here nor there
Well, of course that statistic is made up by Apple spinbots, as is not surprising for a company with its well known ethical standards.
Those vendors charge each developer for every phone they buy.
You don't know that. And your wild exaggerations do not help you make your point, if indeed you have one.