What he did, is not something a rational person would do. How can a kid of that age, with a shit-kicker job, have the maturity and mental capacity to understand the slightest thing about the issues he says he's addressing by committing this act?
To be honest, I think he deserves about as much sympathy as somebody dumb enough to try and cross a 12-lane motorway on foot. He doesn't know WTF he's doing and -- guess what? -- he's going to get ploughed.
Well, if you want to match wits with veteran lawyers in court, with no training or special expertise in something involving your freedom and livelihood, you've got WAAAY bigger balls than me.
Constitutional law is another branch of the law, one, AIUI, which requires dedicated years of study to fully master.
But going on how people here (and in the Tea Party and the Right in general), you'd think interpreting the Constitution would be the easiest thing in the world. It's the Dunning Kruger Effect writ large.
If you think you've ever been able to fight the Man, you're deluded.
I'm also amused with people who fetishize the Second Amendment, out of some fantasy that they might be able to take on the armed might of the US government with small arms.
The US government isn't engaging in economic espionage (and they damned well should, since US businesses pay taxes as well). They are doing it to foil terrorist attacks (and they've gone on the record saying that gathered intelligence has foiled "dozens" of terrorists attacks). Western spying is subject to a tremendous amount of oversight by the right people (and if you'll excuse me, Slashdot keyboard warriors aren't "the right people").
The Chinese merely hack to steal IP so that they can make money, to "catch up with the West", as they try and justify it. China is a squalid oligopoly, and their hacking and spying is subject to no oversight whatsoever.
You can't compare the two. Our reasons are far more noble in intent.
Yes. The reason why he's angered the US government so badly, is because he's divulged sensitive information that has damaged American interests. By telling the Chinese and the world that the US spies on them and leaking important details, he has empowered our enemies. Furthermore, he fled to China to escape US justice, and then did a weak post-hoc justification of fleeing to an enemy country by saying "well, they believe in free speech"(China! Free speech!).
I stand by what I said. He's knowingly committed suicide by doing this. He's shit on the country he was supposed to be serving, and has betrayed their interests. That's low.
Given the damage he's done to the US and the West, he will suffer consequences, there's no doubt about that.
While it raises important issues, I'm struggling to find sympathy for him personally, as he has committed an extremely serious act of treason. By doing what he did, he's ended himself as surely as if he'd put a gun to his own head. Except he'll probably have the US government do it for him (or if he's lucky, life in supermax).
You can't do what he did, and not expect consequences.
Click bait for the countless 14-yo libertarians who infest these boards.
And who be just OUTRAGED, that somebody dared to point out that the government is the collective will of the people, and may actually have our interests and safety as their core mission (as opposed to merely making a handful of rich people richer?)
Now having made this comment, I'm sure I'll be modded down into a smoking crater. But I suppose there's a little pride to be had in being reviled and hated by idiots.
Has it ever occurred to any of the fourteen-year-olds who comment on this site, that this individual has committed treason, has limited our governments' ability to challenge people who wish us ill and fight our corner for us? What will happen when we're all measurably poorer when the Chinese make off with all our most valuable IP, or we are attacked and weakened from within from the Islamist hordes who threaten us?
Or will there just be 2000 paranoid and clueless comments about black helicopters and Bilderburgers as usual?
Because you STUPID libertarian cunts hate Obama and the US Government so badly, you are blind to the truth that is staring you in the face.
This sensitive PRISM presentation was leaked by "Anonymous" (either Chinese intelligence, or people working inadvertantly for Chinese intelligence), to discredit Obama during the Sunnylands Conference.
Obama WAS going to raise the sensitive subject of Chinese criminal hacking of American business and theft of trade secrets and IP. The Chinese don't want to lose face.
NOW that you stupid cunts are ignorantly bleating about how evil, cruel and tyrannical the US Government is, you have COMPLETELY missed the point of what has happened here. The Chinese government (who DO murder and disappear their people and spy on them extensively) have gotten off scot free.
Give me American "tyranny" over the Chinese any day. You are all idiots.
You are all cunts, and you are ALL retards, who have so little perspective, you can't see the obvious truth staring you in the face.
This hysterical muppet is saying stuff like the "Soviet States of America", which does a LOT for his credibility.
I have family who lived in REAL police states, and suffered at the hands of the Soviets. Libertarian hysteria about so-called "totalitarianism" insult the memory of people who really suffered tyranny, torture and death.
Why not invent something which can be put in a room, theater, car, whatever that continuously broadcasts a "hint" for devices to put themselves into silent mode?
Designed properly, this could be quite useful, e.g. in a lecture theatre, when somebody is trying to teach a class. You could do stuff like have IM clients automatically put themselves into DND mode or similiar.
It'll be impossible to take in-house, because doing the work in house would be "anti competitive", and "socialist".
The golf club set feel entitled to help themselves to taxpayer funds, and -- like the fool who steps between the pigs and their swill -- God help you if you dare to challenge you, because you will get mauled by their lobbyists, PR and paid shills.
What, you libertarians refuse to relieve that Big Pharma are just spoilt and greedy, and care far more about profit than actually being in the medical business to (*gasp*), heal people??
I'm unsure how online dating going to be better than IRL dating, when you're excluding a whole slab of potential marriage partners, because they happen to not be interested in the same stuff as you?
He's a freak, and a paranoid treacherous loony who is desperately overdue for his date with karma. Why are you giving this hand-flapping, self-aggrandizing tosser airtime?
Are you nuts?
What he did, is not something a rational person would do. How can a kid of that age, with a shit-kicker job, have the maturity and mental capacity to understand the slightest thing about the issues he says he's addressing by committing this act?
To be honest, I think he deserves about as much sympathy as somebody dumb enough to try and cross a 12-lane motorway on foot. He doesn't know WTF he's doing and -- guess what? -- he's going to get ploughed.
Well, if you want to match wits with veteran lawyers in court, with no training or special expertise in something involving your freedom and livelihood, you've got WAAAY bigger balls than me.
Constitutional law is another branch of the law, one, AIUI, which requires dedicated years of study to fully master.
But going on how people here (and in the Tea Party and the Right in general), you'd think interpreting the Constitution would be the easiest thing in the world. It's the Dunning Kruger Effect writ large.
If you think you've ever been able to fight the Man, you're deluded.
I'm also amused with people who fetishize the Second Amendment, out of some fantasy that they might be able to take on the armed might of the US government with small arms.
I'm not so sure.
The US government isn't engaging in economic espionage (and they damned well should, since US businesses pay taxes as well). They are doing it to foil terrorist attacks (and they've gone on the record saying that gathered intelligence has foiled "dozens" of terrorists attacks). Western spying is subject to a tremendous amount of oversight by the right people (and if you'll excuse me, Slashdot keyboard warriors aren't "the right people").
The Chinese merely hack to steal IP so that they can make money, to "catch up with the West", as they try and justify it. China is a squalid oligopoly, and their hacking and spying is subject to no oversight whatsoever.
You can't compare the two. Our reasons are far more noble in intent.
Way to go, to take what I wrote completely out of context. That speaks volumes about 1) the quality of your thinking, 2) your honesty.
Yes. The reason why he's angered the US government so badly, is because he's divulged sensitive information that has damaged American interests. By telling the Chinese and the world that the US spies on them and leaking important details, he has empowered our enemies. Furthermore, he fled to China to escape US justice, and then did a weak post-hoc justification of fleeing to an enemy country by saying "well, they believe in free speech"(China! Free speech!).
I stand by what I said. He's knowingly committed suicide by doing this. He's shit on the country he was supposed to be serving, and has betrayed their interests. That's low.
Oh right, you're an expert in constitutional law now?
Given the damage he's done to the US and the West, he will suffer consequences, there's no doubt about that.
While it raises important issues, I'm struggling to find sympathy for him personally, as he has committed an extremely serious act of treason. By doing what he did, he's ended himself as surely as if he'd put a gun to his own head. Except he'll probably have the US government do it for him (or if he's lucky, life in supermax).
You can't do what he did, and not expect consequences.
I think if this guy's hands were flapping any faster, he'd take off like a bird.
Guess we'll get to see how far that ancient Chinese wisdom gets them...
Still, if they want to waste that money and manpower, let them. A dollar wasted on this boondoggle is a dollar not spent on their military.
Click bait for the countless 14-yo libertarians who infest these boards.
And who be just OUTRAGED, that somebody dared to point out that the government is the collective will of the people, and may actually have our interests and safety as their core mission (as opposed to merely making a handful of rich people richer?)
Now having made this comment, I'm sure I'll be modded down into a smoking crater. But I suppose there's a little pride to be had in being reviled and hated by idiots.
... welcome our new, colossal robot juggernaut overlords.
Plenty of Muslims (at least a third here, are white).
You are a stupid little faggot cunt.
And you're just a retarded leftist.
Okay Einstein. Since I'm so stupid, explain to me how Islamic extremism is a race.
Has it ever occurred to any of the fourteen-year-olds who comment on this site, that this individual has committed treason, has limited our governments' ability to challenge people who wish us ill and fight our corner for us? What will happen when we're all measurably poorer when the Chinese make off with all our most valuable IP, or we are attacked and weakened from within from the Islamist hordes who threaten us?
Or will there just be 2000 paranoid and clueless comments about black helicopters and Bilderburgers as usual?
Because you STUPID libertarian cunts hate Obama and the US Government so badly, you are blind to the truth that is staring you in the face.
This sensitive PRISM presentation was leaked by "Anonymous" (either Chinese intelligence, or people working inadvertantly for Chinese intelligence), to discredit Obama during the Sunnylands Conference.
Obama WAS going to raise the sensitive subject of Chinese criminal hacking of American business and theft of trade secrets and IP. The Chinese don't want to lose face.
NOW that you stupid cunts are ignorantly bleating about how evil, cruel and tyrannical the US Government is, you have COMPLETELY missed the point of what has happened here. The Chinese government (who DO murder and disappear their people and spy on them extensively) have gotten off scot free.
Give me American "tyranny" over the Chinese any day. You are all idiots.
You are all cunts, and you are ALL retards, who have so little perspective, you can't see the obvious truth staring you in the face.
This hysterical muppet is saying stuff like the "Soviet States of America", which does a LOT for his credibility.
I have family who lived in REAL police states, and suffered at the hands of the Soviets. Libertarian hysteria about so-called "totalitarianism" insult the memory of people who really suffered tyranny, torture and death.
If I ever meet this cunt, I'll punch him.
Why not invent something which can be put in a room, theater, car, whatever that continuously broadcasts a "hint" for devices to put themselves into silent mode?
Designed properly, this could be quite useful, e.g. in a lecture theatre, when somebody is trying to teach a class. You could do stuff like have IM clients automatically put themselves into DND mode or similiar.
It'll be impossible to take in-house, because doing the work in house would be "anti competitive", and "socialist".
The golf club set feel entitled to help themselves to taxpayer funds, and -- like the fool who steps between the pigs and their swill -- God help you if you dare to challenge you, because you will get mauled by their lobbyists, PR and paid shills.
What, you libertarians refuse to relieve that Big Pharma are just spoilt and greedy, and care far more about profit than actually being in the medical business to (*gasp*), heal people??
'separate rooms' == bad relationship?
Not necessarily, especially if one of the partners snores/farts like a trooper.
I'm unsure how online dating going to be better than IRL dating, when you're excluding a whole slab of potential marriage partners, because they happen to not be interested in the same stuff as you?
I'd laugh if the enclosures were made out of cheap, chrome-painted plastic like everything else made in China.
He's a freak, and a paranoid treacherous loony who is desperately overdue for his date with karma. Why are you giving this hand-flapping, self-aggrandizing tosser airtime?
Cheap click bait?