It seems to me that there might be a systematic method of finding security related holes in various OS's or applications. Is there some formal process that is more than just hit and miss?
That was my pet peeve in school that people had to dumb down many of the actual writing that was in some of the better classics for the truly stupid. Try looking at http://www.dictionary.com or something it usually helps.
That's why you have various social groups congregate around similar ideas. For example if I don't like the crime rate where I live I move to an area with lower crime and a more pleasing demographic. Virtual communities reflect this as well for many of the same reasons.
I have been with slashdot since the days before it was purtchessed by Andover and taco was running it off his ISDN connection. I just wanted an account since I have been out of the country for a few years.
Please if you are going to flame do it with reasoned opinions and not with classless foppishness.
Yes, which is why -- repeat after me -- the web is not the internet. Yes, "the web" is mostly a non-interactive, eyeball-driven, point-and-drool, entertainment-for-the-masses medium. I'd say that/. and k5 and other
community-driven weblogs are the closest you'll find to breaking that paradigm. On the web.
Ever tried to get any information out of slashdot (I mean really get any sizeable information out of it that can be access a month or more after a sotry is posted). I have tried to deal with this problem. Slashdot just dosn't scale well to getting long term access to information. What would be closer to better access for information to achieve in an archieved method is almost, kindof, not quite there at e2. Although it dosn't lend itself well to noninteractive retrieval means (get's stuck in a rather anoying infinite loop on a random node link for your information).
However, there's still Usenet, there's still MOO, there's still email... there's still a lot of things. I wouldn't knock the idea of a "virtual community" that quickly. Most of the people I consider my closest friends in the
world are part of my "online" community.
Usenet started dieing after the emergence of many of the sites like slashdot and it's use of a very unreliable protocol for transporting information around.
There is far too much control over the mechanism involved and too much propensity for error. The utility is extremely low hell you're not even guaranteed to get all your messages. Also you have to be "subscribed" to a server to allow for access. There aren't in fact archives of all the data in question. Very bad karma.
What would make it much better is if you could access any information you wanted and post anything you wanted via any open portal that had everything that was sent into the system instead of relying on the famed "generosity" of sysadmins. Slashdot is a good method of this but it's too centralized and too prone to be ruined by some unforseen event. Now if you took a protocol like a search engine/napster method but allowed for many access points using rudimentary interfaces on the web accessible via text based machines then you would truly have something.
I have always seen usenet's exclusiveness as a means to "keep the rabble out" more or less. You don't have any guarantees and there is no guarantee of point to point communication pure and simple.
MOOs are created around a central point and are still not very reliable.
You have to understand that the internet is only really the internet when it includes all that one can accomplish with an IP address to meet their needs with. Unattented access to various sites on the internet is one of the things that is extremely nice. Many times I have not have the patience to spend hours looking for something on a web site but sent my trusty web spider to look at it for me. I get all the information and can grep it and look for anything I need. I can print it out and save it for future use and make a great deal of discovery at a later date and all of the data is preserved. I can obtain software that will enable my comptuer not to remain outdated as far as it's functionality. I can garner information from disperate sources that I wouldn't have access to save for the internet's use of IP addresses. A bunch of windows boxes with IE on them dosn't constitute access in the strictest sense. It's also incompatable with the nature of what people really mean when they say online.
Personally I think that net and web access is just a means for people to think that they are really in another community when in fact they are not. What I have found is that there is little substance to the argument. Social elites are in the business of making more barriers not of allowing open access.
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PDF is so nicely formatted that it's used in many instances for formatted computer generated output for printing.
PDF is for spec sheets and boring manuals (though i personally prefer HTML in those instances). But regardless, i think that the electronic book format is cool as a supplement, say if you wanted to search for something,
etc. But needing a decent speed PC with you should not be a prerequisite to reading a book. Nor is printing out a good solution if you ask me.
What I would like to see is a method of being able to alter in a WYSIWYG format the contents of a PDF document or simply create one from scratch in an open source manner. I wonder if such a project exists.
Most of the really good books are also really long
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Truth be told the books of the past are really much longer. War and Peace, Hugo's works, Balzac. Also you usually can get through technical works without reading all of them. To combat the size of a book from hurting your psyche just take it in stride and work on the book one day/hour at a time.
One of the best things you can do for yourself is invest in so good high quality low acid bond and use that to print so long range materials (long range being defined as things you really, really, really want to keep like resumes and code with accompanying line numbers, etc). Stories are no different. Also it's independent of power.
Or you could take pictures of the book reader's screen and then analyze them for the letters they contain. Or do as the monks of old did and copy them word by word, letter by letter. In fact once that happens then you can distribute them as much as you want as ascii text files.
A while ago slashdot posted an unsettling story of a publisher who published the latter ammount of his/her book via portable data format on an accompanying cdrom. With this then it is technically possible to prevent you from accessing the material that you have without odious possibilities of harm from the DMCA.
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Or it could be the classic:
"The rain in Spain stays mainly on the plain."
or something like that.
I would be thrilled to have wireless access via a system like that but I don't think that this will ever happen.
If he did that he would be rooming with John Gotti in supermax at Levenworth
It seems to me that there might be a systematic method of finding security related holes in various OS's or applications. Is there some formal process that is more than just hit and miss?
I mean when you have *that* much money riding on something why possibly have the potential of screwing it all up.
That was my pet peeve in school that people had to dumb down many of the actual writing that was in some of the better classics for the truly stupid. Try looking at http://www.dictionary.com or something it usually helps.
That's why you have various social groups congregate around similar ideas. For example if I don't like the crime rate where I live I move to an area with lower crime and a more pleasing demographic. Virtual communities reflect this as well for many of the same reasons.
I have been with slashdot since the days before it was purtchessed by Andover and taco was running it off his ISDN connection. I just wanted an account since I have been out of the country for a few years.
Please if you are going to flame do it with reasoned opinions and not with classless foppishness.
Yes, which is why -- repeat after me -- the web is not the internet. Yes, "the web" is mostly a non-interactive, eyeball-driven, point-and-drool, entertainment-for-the-masses medium. I'd say that /. and k5 and other
... there's still a lot of things. I wouldn't knock the idea of a "virtual community" that quickly. Most of the people I consider my closest friends in the
community-driven weblogs are the closest you'll find to breaking that paradigm. On the web.
Ever tried to get any information out of slashdot (I mean really get any sizeable information out of it that can be access a month or more after a sotry is posted). I have tried to deal with this problem. Slashdot just dosn't scale well to getting long term access to information. What would be closer to better access for information to achieve in an archieved method is almost, kindof, not quite there at e2. Although it dosn't lend itself well to noninteractive retrieval means (get's stuck in a rather anoying infinite loop on a random node link for your information).
However, there's still Usenet, there's still MOO, there's still email
world are part of my "online" community.
Usenet started dieing after the emergence of many of the sites like slashdot and it's use of a very unreliable protocol for transporting information around.
There is far too much control over the mechanism involved and too much propensity for error. The utility is extremely low hell you're not even guaranteed to get all your messages. Also you have to be "subscribed" to a server to allow for access. There aren't in fact archives of all the data in question. Very bad karma.
What would make it much better is if you could access any information you wanted and post anything you wanted via any open portal that had everything that was sent into the system instead of relying on the famed "generosity" of sysadmins. Slashdot is a good method of this but it's too centralized and too prone to be ruined by some unforseen event. Now if you took a protocol like a search engine/napster method but allowed for many access points using rudimentary interfaces on the web accessible via text based machines then you would truly have something.
I have always seen usenet's exclusiveness as a means to "keep the rabble out" more or less. You don't have any guarantees and there is no guarantee of point to point communication pure and simple.
MOOs are created around a central point and are still not very reliable.
You have to understand that the internet is only really the internet when it includes all that one can accomplish with an IP address to meet their needs with. Unattented access to various sites on the internet is one of the things that is extremely nice. Many times I have not have the patience to spend hours looking for something on a web site but sent my trusty web spider to look at it for me. I get all the information and can grep it and look for anything I need. I can print it out and save it for future use and make a great deal of discovery at a later date and all of the data is preserved. I can obtain software that will enable my comptuer not to remain outdated as far as it's functionality. I can garner information from disperate sources that I wouldn't have access to save for the internet's use of IP addresses. A bunch of windows boxes with IE on them dosn't constitute access in the strictest sense. It's also incompatable with the nature of what people really mean when they say online.
Personally I think that net and web access is just a means for people to think that they are really in another community when in fact they are not. What I have found is that there is little substance to the argument. Social elites are in the business of making more barriers not of allowing open access.
PDF is so nicely formatted that it's used in many instances for formatted computer generated output for printing.
PDF is for spec sheets and boring manuals (though i personally prefer HTML in those instances). But regardless, i think that the electronic book format is cool as a supplement, say if you wanted to search for something,
etc. But needing a decent speed PC with you should not be a prerequisite to reading a book. Nor is printing out a good solution if you ask me.
What I would like to see is a method of being able to alter in a WYSIWYG format the contents of a PDF document or simply create one from scratch in an open source manner. I wonder if such a project exists.
Truth be told the books of the past are really much longer. War and Peace, Hugo's works, Balzac. Also you usually can get through technical works without reading all of them. To combat the size of a book from hurting your psyche just take it in stride and work on the book one day/hour at a time.
One of the best things you can do for yourself is invest in so good high quality low acid bond and use that to print so long range materials (long range being defined as things you really, really, really want to keep like resumes and code with accompanying line numbers, etc). Stories are no different. Also it's independent of power.
Or you could take pictures of the book reader's screen and then analyze them for the letters they contain. Or do as the monks of old did and copy them word by word, letter by letter. In fact once that happens then you can distribute them as much as you want as ascii text files.
A while ago slashdot posted an unsettling story of a publisher who published the latter ammount of his/her book via portable data format on an accompanying cdrom. With this then it is technically possible to prevent you from accessing the material that you have without odious possibilities of harm from the DMCA.