If the exploit happens "before the messages hits the Inbox", how can it be an Outlook problem? Isn't putting items in the Inbox a function of the server? --
...OK, good point. On the other hand, a restriction doesn't have to be a "law" in order to be judged constitutional or unconstitutional. That is, if a restaurant had a restriction about not letting blacks in, that would be unconstitutional even though it wasn't a law. --
"The government is taking the role of the parent for today's youth."
Umm, no it isn't. The government is saying "People under 18 are not legally allowed to make certain decisions. They need to have someone older than that to make the decision for them." Far from "take the role of the parent" it is ENFORCING the role of the parent. --
Then you must be under 18. Tell me, is it constitutional to have restrictions on underage drinking, voting, r- (or x-) rated movie rental, etc, etc, etc?
In fact, r-rated movies are an EXCELLENT example. Especially violent/sexual movie get an "R" rating which sounds exactly like the video game example. --
"But I'd be willing to bet that a WAY disproportionate amount of them have web pages and are active on discussion boards etc."
Which is exactly why they should be catered to. Not all customers are equal, think of reviewers. Each positive review is more than just a happy customer--it is hundreds, thousands even MILLIONS of potential customers. Each of those "hardcore gamers" in a newsgroup/website is a reviewer. Make them happy and the world will beat a path to your door. Make them angry.... --
I'm not doubting your information, but I confused. I was looking into editing VHS-quality video on my desktop and I found (I thought) that I'd need around 40GB for an hour of video. But DVD is much higher quality than VHS. Can it really compress down that far? --
My wife uses a Mac (although now that he's been kicked off the Mac, my 18 month old uses Linux). I'd be interested in seeing stats on what the households of Linux users use. Break it down by status of Linux user (for instance, "man of the house" uses Linux - 80% of "women of the house" use Mac, 95% of "children of the house" use Linux). --
The interesting thing about MacOS X was that it was the power of Unix "under the hood" with the (supposed) power of the MacOS GUI on top. If you remove the Mac GUI and replace it with X, don't you end up with just plain BSD (with non-standard config files)? --
"The judge didn't buy eBay's argument that Bidder's Edge was guilty of trademark infringement. He instead focused on the claim that Bidder's Edge's searches essentially constituted a form of trespassing on eBay's property. "
And the funny part is, if I shot this judge, *I* would go to jail.
Has he never heard of "secret shoppers"? These are people that go into a store pretending to shop but instead write down prices. Then they go back to the original store and advice pricing policy. How is that different?
Better yet, how about I visit Office Max, Office Depot, etc and write down their prices for Palm Pilots. Then I compile all this info and put it on a website. Tresspass? You moron! --
Well, I guess "Failure" magazine is aptly named. Goodbye server. I'll just have to stay here with the other slowpokes and make humorous/offtopic remarks.
"...claims there's no bad blood between himself and Steve Jobs..."
Probably because neither of them uses blood. Woz is clearly an advanced AI left here by aliens while Jobs probably upgraded from blood to a secret liquid compound that speeds his "boot time" in the morning from 10 minutes to an insanely great 5 seconds. --
...when we are in agreement? Now that you admit that SUVs ARE safer, we are in complete agreement. I don't like them either (anymore). I agree that they can be scary to drive next to, they block your vision, they are inefficient and slow.
But that's no excuse to spread FUD about safety. --
So what if I'm using Outlook? A mail comes in, I glance at Outlook--it opens the mail. It has an attachment, I look at the filename--it launches. Oh no! A virus! Don't infect Word (glance at Word). Crap! Don't send to the people in my address book (glance). Dammit!
There are times when you want to study something passively... --
So kids with Attention Deficit Disorder AND Automatic Power Management are going to have their computers shutdown on them every 10 seconds...
Seriously, this sounds neat--if it works. But I can imagine new programs trying to compete for my attention by flashing, show nudie photos, or whatever in an attempt to boost a Nielsen-style rating. --
"To allow your linux users the same level of functionality as their windows using counterparts, why do the drivers need to be open source ?"
They don't.
"Why can't you charge for provision of closed source drivers, providing functionality, documentation, support and an increasing level of product maturity with driver revisions ?"
You can.
"Maybe I'm a profiteering capitalist, but I don't see why mine (nor many of my collegues) hard work should be provided for free to one choice of OS and not another."
It needn't.
But if you take this route, you won't have me as a customer. Why not? Because I don't use software that's not Free (also free, but that's not a goal, that a necessity). If I am not someone you want as a customer, then we're both fine. If I AM someone you want as a customer then you are in trouble. --
Let me see if I understand this: You understand that Open Source is good, you want to attract Open Source people---but you don't want to open the source. Can't be done.
However, I suspect your REAL question is "How can we seem to jump on the Linux bandwagon to gain marketshare AND mindshare without taking any risk?" Answer: binary-only drivers! --
Now let's say EVERYONE has an SUV. Should I buy a Festiva or an SUV? Well, if I get a Festiva, I will be crushed like a bug in ANY accident. But if I get an SUV I have a better chance of survival. True, those chances are worse than if everyone (including me) had a Festiva--but as I've said before arguments from "if only everyone would..." are pointless.
This is a fairly simple example of the Prisoner's Dilemna. --
"again, Excursion vs. Festiva, yes the 3 ton car is going to send the Festiva flying into next week.
but why is it a good thing that the Festiva driver dies and the Excursion driver lives? just because you are the Excursion driver? no, you are both equally worthless, and neither one of you has a right to live beyond the other's."
You are confusing two totally different concepts.
1) Whether or not I will survive 2) Whether or not I should survive
All we are talking about here is #1. So let's leave "why should you live instead of the Festiva driver" out of it.
Now, consider a world where EVERYONE (except me) drives a Festiva. I go to the car dealership find that I have two choices: A Festiva and an SUV. If I buy the Festiva, my chances of dying are just like everyone else's. But if I buy an SUV, my chances of dying are 1/10 that. Therefore, the SUV is safer for me.
(As a sidenote about logic: Logic is a system of rules you apply to facts to reach conclusions. You have not used logic in your posts. You haven't even employed facts. You have made assertions. Apparently that is enough to get you modded as "insightful" on Slashdot, but it won't convince me.) --
the force of two 1 ton vehicles colliding at 35 mph is far less than that of 3 ton vehicles (SUVs)...
And how is this relevant? "Amount of force" != "likelyhood of fatality". The SUVs are bigger (more room to deform before passengers are affected) and stronger (more steel in the frame) and are therefore safer. Plus, they are higher off the ground. Imagine a car and an SUV in a head-on--the SUV would practically sail over the car--decapitating the car's driver but leaving the SUV driver "high and dry". --
I have a Camry and Corolla and I'm very happy with them (the Camry is an '87 and still runs fine). So I'm especially interested in the Prius, being from Toyota. --
(I have an answer to the question at the end of my rant)
Is there an open Slashdot terminal in some public place? Because these "Ask Slashdots" are starting to seem more like "Ask A Random Question Without Searching First". This is getting REALLY lame.
Now, then. Go to Yahoo (yes, even Yahoo can find this, albeit through Google). Type "linux vpn". Find a link. Follow it.
For those that aren't interested in enough to click, this is PoPToP, a Linux implementation of the server-side of MS PPTP. A secure implementation. Why PPTP? Because you want Windows clients and the only thing they do out of the box is PPTP. BTW, PoPToP is GPL'd.... --
A company I don't like is adding a language I don't understand to a movie I won't watch in a format I don't use. I'm psyched!
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When I went to www.apple.com, I got
Forbidden
Your client is not allowed to access the requested object.
Sounds like Apple got a cease-and-desist from their own lawyers...
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If the exploit happens "before the messages hits the Inbox", how can it be an Outlook problem? Isn't putting items in the Inbox a function of the server?
--
...OK, good point. On the other hand, a restriction doesn't have to be a "law" in order to be judged constitutional or unconstitutional. That is, if a restaurant had a restriction about not letting blacks in, that would be unconstitutional even though it wasn't a law.
--
"The government is taking the role of the parent for today's youth."
Umm, no it isn't. The government is saying "People under 18 are not legally allowed to make certain decisions. They need to have someone older than that to make the decision for them." Far from "take the role of the parent" it is ENFORCING the role of the parent.
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"I cannot imagine how this is constitutional."
Then you must be under 18. Tell me, is it constitutional to have restrictions on underage drinking, voting, r- (or x-) rated movie rental, etc, etc, etc?
In fact, r-rated movies are an EXCELLENT example. Especially violent/sexual movie get an "R" rating which sounds exactly like the video game example.
--
"But I'd be willing to bet that a WAY disproportionate amount of them have web pages and are active on discussion boards etc."
Which is exactly why they should be catered to. Not all customers are equal, think of reviewers. Each positive review is more than just a happy customer--it is hundreds, thousands even MILLIONS of potential customers. Each of those "hardcore gamers" in a newsgroup/website is a reviewer. Make them happy and the world will beat a path to your door. Make them angry....
--
I'm not doubting your information, but I confused. I was looking into editing VHS-quality video on my desktop and I found (I thought) that I'd need around 40GB for an hour of video. But DVD is much higher quality than VHS. Can it really compress down that far?
--
Wait a second, how do they fit a whole 2 hour movie (or more) on 9.4 GB? Are these DVD-RW not the same as regular DVDs?
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My wife uses a Mac (although now that he's been kicked off the Mac, my 18 month old uses Linux). I'd be interested in seeing stats on what the households of Linux users use. Break it down by status of Linux user (for instance, "man of the house" uses Linux - 80% of "women of the house" use Mac, 95% of "children of the house" use Linux).
--
The interesting thing about MacOS X was that it was the power of Unix "under the hood" with the (supposed) power of the MacOS GUI on top. If you remove the Mac GUI and replace it with X, don't you end up with just plain BSD (with non-standard config files)?
--
"The judge didn't buy eBay's argument that Bidder's Edge was guilty of trademark infringement. He instead focused on the claim that Bidder's Edge's searches essentially constituted a form of trespassing on eBay's property. "
And the funny part is, if I shot this judge, *I* would go to jail.
Has he never heard of "secret shoppers"? These are people that go into a store pretending to shop but instead write down prices. Then they go back to the original store and advice pricing policy. How is that different?
Better yet, how about I visit Office Max, Office Depot, etc and write down their prices for Palm Pilots. Then I compile all this info and put it on a website. Tresspass? You moron!
--
Well, I guess "Failure" magazine is aptly named. Goodbye server. I'll just have to stay here with the other slowpokes and make humorous/offtopic remarks.
"...claims there's no bad blood between himself and Steve Jobs..."
Probably because neither of them uses blood. Woz is clearly an advanced AI left here by aliens while Jobs probably upgraded from blood to a secret liquid compound that speeds his "boot time" in the morning from 10 minutes to an insanely great 5 seconds.
--
...when we are in agreement? Now that you admit that SUVs ARE safer, we are in complete agreement. I don't like them either (anymore). I agree that they can be scary to drive next to, they block your vision, they are inefficient and slow.
But that's no excuse to spread FUD about safety.
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I've been wanting to pick up LaTeX for just these reasons, but I can't seem to find a good tutorial. What did you use?
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So what if I'm using Outlook? A mail comes in, I glance at Outlook--it opens the mail. It has an attachment, I look at the filename--it launches. Oh no! A virus! Don't infect Word (glance at Word). Crap! Don't send to the people in my address book (glance). Dammit!
There are times when you want to study something passively...
--
So kids with Attention Deficit Disorder AND Automatic Power Management are going to have their computers shutdown on them every 10 seconds...
Seriously, this sounds neat--if it works. But I can imagine new programs trying to compete for my attention by flashing, show nudie photos, or whatever in an attempt to boost a Nielsen-style rating.
--
"To allow your linux users the same level of functionality as their windows using counterparts, why do the drivers need to be open source ?"
They don't.
"Why can't you charge for provision of closed source drivers, providing functionality, documentation, support and an increasing level of product maturity with driver revisions ?"
You can.
"Maybe I'm a profiteering capitalist, but I don't see why mine (nor many of my collegues) hard work should be provided for free to one choice of OS and not another."
It needn't.
But if you take this route, you won't have me as a customer. Why not? Because I don't use software that's not Free (also free, but that's not a goal, that a necessity). If I am not someone you want as a customer, then we're both fine. If I AM someone you want as a customer then you are in trouble.
--
Let me see if I understand this: You understand that Open Source is good, you want to attract Open Source people---but you don't want to open the source. Can't be done.
However, I suspect your REAL question is "How can we seem to jump on the Linux bandwagon to gain marketshare AND mindshare without taking any risk?" Answer: binary-only drivers!
--
Now let's say EVERYONE has an SUV. Should I buy a Festiva or an SUV? Well, if I get a Festiva, I will be crushed like a bug in ANY accident. But if I get an SUV I have a better chance of survival. True, those chances are worse than if everyone (including me) had a Festiva--but as I've said before arguments from "if only everyone would..." are pointless.
This is a fairly simple example of the Prisoner's Dilemna.
--
"again, Excursion vs. Festiva, yes the 3 ton car is going to send the Festiva flying into next week.
but why is it a good thing that the Festiva driver dies and the Excursion driver lives? just because you are the Excursion driver? no, you are both equally worthless, and neither one of you has a right to live beyond the other's."
You are confusing two totally different concepts.
1) Whether or not I will survive
2) Whether or not I should survive
All we are talking about here is #1. So let's leave "why should you live instead of the Festiva driver" out of it.
Now, consider a world where EVERYONE (except me) drives a Festiva. I go to the car dealership find that I have two choices: A Festiva and an SUV. If I buy the Festiva, my chances of dying are just like everyone else's. But if I buy an SUV, my chances of dying are 1/10 that. Therefore, the SUV is safer for me.
(As a sidenote about logic: Logic is a system of rules you apply to facts to reach conclusions. You have not used logic in your posts. You haven't even employed facts. You have made assertions. Apparently that is enough to get you modded as "insightful" on Slashdot, but it won't convince me.)
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the force of two 1 ton vehicles colliding at 35 mph is far less than that of 3 ton vehicles (SUVs)...
And how is this relevant? "Amount of force" != "likelyhood of fatality". The SUVs are bigger (more room to deform before passengers are affected) and stronger (more steel in the frame) and are therefore safer. Plus, they are higher off the ground. Imagine a car and an SUV in a head-on--the SUV would practically sail over the car--decapitating the car's driver but leaving the SUV driver "high and dry".
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I have a Camry and Corolla and I'm very happy with them (the Camry is an '87 and still runs fine). So I'm especially interested in the Prius, being from Toyota.
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(somebody needs to tell Ars that tiny white text on a black background is unreadable)
The Insight's single body aluminum frame is 47 percent lighter than a comparable steel body yet it has better bending and torsional rigidity.
So why doesn't everyone use it? No really, I'm curious.
If "Chris" got in an accident, I wonder what the insurance company (or the judge) will think of his side-mirror-cams.
--
(I have an answer to the question at the end of my rant)
Is there an open Slashdot terminal in some public place? Because these "Ask Slashdots" are starting to seem more like "Ask A Random Question Without Searching First". This is getting REALLY lame.
Now, then. Go to Yahoo (yes, even Yahoo can find this, albeit through Google). Type "linux vpn". Find a link. Follow it.
For those that aren't interested in enough to click, this is PoPToP, a Linux implementation of the server-side of MS PPTP. A secure implementation. Why PPTP? Because you want Windows clients and the only thing they do out of the box is PPTP. BTW, PoPToP is GPL'd....
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