Sure, Martin Luther King's peaceful sitins were of no value. It was just the violence./s
The ends are the means, brah. If your means are violence then your ends will be violence. You can see the scars left on communities by people that didn't care what the consequences would be for those families and businesses.
Your solution is "hellfire"... the fire that burns and leaves nothing but ash. You'll build nothing with that. You'll leave nothing but ruin in your wake which those that live in the ashes will have to deal with...
What city do you live in? What neighborhood? Imagine it burned. Imagine the stores with the windows blow out and boarded up. Imagine there being no hope of it being rebuilt because the people that would do the rebuilding have left.
Those are the fruits of your violence. Look at Detroit. Where is the inflection point that turned them from the most wealthy per capita city in the US to a wasteland of run down crack houses?
Want to live in Ferguson?
The world you are proposing to create is not worth living in. It is full of ruin, hopelessness, and decay.
If you want to go somewhere positive then you need to create... not destroy. If you can't even contemplate how that would work then you're the last person to be advising anything.
why did I reference sit ins if I am ignoring agent provocateurs?
You do realize the entire point of a sit in is to prevent that sort of thing?
If everyone is sitting down, how do you "agent provocateur"?
Just schedule a protest, have everyone show up with water and food for themselves. And then sit down. Everyone sits down.
The cops will generally leave you alone because you pose no particular threat and the optics of a police officer messing with peaceful people sitting down is terrible.
Disruptors can't blend into the crowd or do violent stuff and then run away because the actual protestors are all sitting down. There is no crowd to blend into.
This is not hard. But lets not pretend that these protests are only turning violent by accident. People are showing up to them with weapons, body armor, etc. They want a fight.
Organize and then sit down. You'll have no trouble. Its really really easy. And the groups that don't do that and have problems are either too stupid to do something so easy or lying about wanting no violence. Because its that easy. Sit down.
Anarchy leads to tyranny because in the anarchy you create an opportunity for an absolute ruler. We can see this pretty much any time anarchy has been tried. It leads almost immediately to a tyrant. It doesn't matter which ideology you follow... communist fascist whatever... you create anarchy and you're going to get a tyrant.
If you want a tyrant, create anarchy.
Once you understand that it isn't as easy as saying "its just the system, man"... you understand that the path to liberty requires maintaining these institutions and guarding them from corruption.
Absent the institutions we have tyranny. Absent moderation of the institutions we have tyranny.
You have to moderate them. Its not easy. Its really hard. And while you are doing it many players will whisper in your ear to pervert them to service one end or another. But those roads all lead to tyranny.
I am increasingly of the opinion that there are a lot of people that deserve to live in oppression and possibly starve enough to eat their own cats.
Why? Because there isn't enough respect for the consequences of fucking up the system.
People want things for free. People want to eat the golden goose. People want the rules to only apply when they apply to someone else. People want democracy that only does what their dear leader says.
These contradictions are death. Literal... death. And I'm tired of arguing with people about it. I think they should get the fruits of their ambitions. A whole lot of people should just be allowed to kill themselves with their own bad ideas.
riots are in part encouraged by the perceived lack of consequences to any individual in the riot due to there being too many people.
camera shutter clicks...
Face Rec scrubs image after image... wide angel shots...
police marquee select clouds of names for people standing in the "wrong" area... names get court summons sent to their registered addresses.
To this people say "masks"... sure masks... I'm sure the police have no solution for that idea.
Given that the bike lock guy was found, I'd take that very lightly.
We need more peaceful protests... sit ins... something you really can't get in trouble for... the violent aggressive stuff is toxic. And in the end, society at large won't be on your side when the hammer comes down.
Well, first I don't interact with facebook at all and haven't ever. I spotted facebook for what it was on day 1.
As to what I'm known as by google... which is the real issue here... their ads are very inaccurate for me. Their targeted ads are not even targeting the right region of the country. They localize me incorrectly. Which is funny because I don't always use a VPN with google.
The outlet that seems to localize me correctly is youtube and I only know that because I get campaign ads from local politicians on occasion when I watch youtube.
One of the better bits of evidence is seeing if the ads you're subjected to reveal some knowledge about what you've bought, are shopping for, your buying patterns etc.
The ads targeted at me don't reflect my searches, my purchases, or demographic information about me as a user.
So... objectively... their databases are confused or empty.
a screen name is not your birth name... and there is more than enough evidence concerning full anon sites to prove my case. 4chan is a good example.
Everything is hypocrisy if you never recognize the difference in anything. Then statements like "imprisonment is the same as kidnapping" start happening.... ignore differences and you could say that a balanced diet is the same thing as over eating or under eating... because if you ignore quantity or nutritional diversity then all sorts of positive and negative statements concerning diet become the same.
If you ignore differences.
Which is what you relied upon to make your argument.
Its textbook fallacious assuming you didn't know it was fallacious... and demonstrates bad faith and a lack of integrity if you didn't.
So... you're either ignorant or dishonest at this point... can't think of a third option. Your opinion on that matter is welcome but make an effort to not make another big mistake like that again. It reflects poorly on you.
Something which I can track to some extent because I know your screen name.;)
North Koreans have food security issues and often extreme mal-nourishment. You're comparing them to Americans a hundred years ago that had no such problems.
So we've established you didn't read what I said. Now you ask another question which I also answered.
I cited an emphasis on emulating older programs first due to any hardware issues.
This was all made clear in my first post which you didn't read.
We're done.
In the future, make a good faith effort to read what someone said before you presume to comment. You didn't do that and that has been proven beyond a shadow of a doubt. I will not comment further to you in this thread. Next time ACTUALLY read what someone says before you comment.
No, I'm well aware of the issue. You just weren't listening. There is nothing you complained about that wasn't actually addressed previously. You were too busy constructing a strawman to actually hear the argument.
and you have a library of programs greater or smaller than the android and iOS?
Smaller.
If you made a point of allowing Win32 programs to run there would be a larger program library on the windows phone than on any other smart phone.
Windows phones became non-viable because they didn't have enough programs that would run on them. The actual phones themselves and the OS etc is generally fine. But because their OS is effectively in a minority it required MS to personally fill the entire gap and MS either could not or would not do that. If you could run Win32 programs then the windows phone might have won the struggle.
As to what should and shouldn't be run, I'll be the judge of that thanks.
As a customer, if MS had made an effort to offer this as a feature on their phones, I would have bought one instead... I am not alone in this matter.
I'm a customer. It is what I want. Business 101 would suggest that you simply not argue that point since your objective as a business is to get me to give you money. So... enough.
As to your windows mobile 6~8... I'm talking about making it compatible with Windows DESKTOP versions 95~Windows 10. Bare minimum up to XP. And here you might ask "why the fixation on the old stuff instead of the latest stuff?.. Because the old stuff ran on computers with less ram and CPU power than what you find in many modern smart phones. So starting with the old first makes sense. What is more the resolution of displays back then is typically less than the resolution of a smartphone. So you can pack literally every pixel on the screen without any trouble.
The big mistake with windows is not making the windows phone compatible with windows software.
here people will say "imcompatible hardware" to which I can respond with "emulation" to which they'll respond with "it will be slow" to which I can respond with "the phones are so much more powerful than older windows computers that even with inefficiency they can emulate all sorts of old windows programs"...
To this people will then say "why would anyone want to run old windows software on a phone"... well, a lot of that software is actually really impressive. Furthermore, it expands the liberary of programs that can be run on the phone beyond what the android and iOS has which would make Microsoft competitive with android for a lot of things that they otherwise can't be due to a lack of software.
And it gets better because there's nothing to stop people from writing new software that is compatible with that older archetecture. And you could ask why anyone would do that, but the easy answer is that there are a lot of people that know how to program programs for that but not for whatever new language your phones are using.
"IF" this worked relatively well, I wouldn't own an Android... I'd own a windows phone. I'd load it up with old programs I still use to this day, I'd put some old great games I love on there, I'd have all sorts of great productivity programs on there. I'd literally have an old version of Office on there. Full Excel support on your phone would be pretty sick.
And you could say "but the touch interface"... worst case, I'd have a little micro bluetooth keyboard and mouse. And whenever I needed mouse and keyboard, I'd grab that stuff and basically have a tiny laptop.
I'm not saying this is for everyone. But if the windows phones had this as a feature, I'd have bought a windows phone.
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Sure, Martin Luther King's peaceful sitins were of no value. It was just the violence. /s
The ends are the means, brah. If your means are violence then your ends will be violence. You can see the scars left on communities by people that didn't care what the consequences would be for those families and businesses.
Your solution is "hellfire"... the fire that burns and leaves nothing but ash. You'll build nothing with that. You'll leave nothing but ruin in your wake which those that live in the ashes will have to deal with...
What city do you live in? What neighborhood? Imagine it burned. Imagine the stores with the windows blow out and boarded up. Imagine there being no hope of it being rebuilt because the people that would do the rebuilding have left.
Those are the fruits of your violence. Look at Detroit. Where is the inflection point that turned them from the most wealthy per capita city in the US to a wasteland of run down crack houses?
Want to live in Ferguson?
The world you are proposing to create is not worth living in. It is full of ruin, hopelessness, and decay.
If you want to go somewhere positive then you need to create... not destroy. If you can't even contemplate how that would work then you're the last person to be advising anything.
why did I reference sit ins if I am ignoring agent provocateurs?
You do realize the entire point of a sit in is to prevent that sort of thing?
If everyone is sitting down, how do you "agent provocateur"?
Just schedule a protest, have everyone show up with water and food for themselves. And then sit down. Everyone sits down.
The cops will generally leave you alone because you pose no particular threat and the optics of a police officer messing with peaceful people sitting down is terrible.
Disruptors can't blend into the crowd or do violent stuff and then run away because the actual protestors are all sitting down. There is no crowd to blend into.
This is not hard. But lets not pretend that these protests are only turning violent by accident. People are showing up to them with weapons, body armor, etc. They want a fight.
Organize and then sit down. You'll have no trouble. Its really really easy. And the groups that don't do that and have problems are either too stupid to do something so easy or lying about wanting no violence. Because its that easy. Sit down.
Sure... Burn it down.
Anarchy is self defeating.
Anarchy leads to tyranny because in the anarchy you create an opportunity for an absolute ruler. We can see this pretty much any time anarchy has been tried. It leads almost immediately to a tyrant. It doesn't matter which ideology you follow... communist fascist whatever... you create anarchy and you're going to get a tyrant.
If you want a tyrant, create anarchy.
Once you understand that it isn't as easy as saying "its just the system, man"... you understand that the path to liberty requires maintaining these institutions and guarding them from corruption.
Absent the institutions we have tyranny.
Absent moderation of the institutions we have tyranny.
You have to moderate them. Its not easy. Its really hard. And while you are doing it many players will whisper in your ear to pervert them to service one end or another. But those roads all lead to tyranny.
I am increasingly of the opinion that there are a lot of people that deserve to live in oppression and possibly starve enough to eat their own cats.
Why? Because there isn't enough respect for the consequences of fucking up the system.
People want things for free. People want to eat the golden goose. People want the rules to only apply when they apply to someone else. People want democracy that only does what their dear leader says.
These contradictions are death. Literal... death. And I'm tired of arguing with people about it. I think they should get the fruits of their ambitions. A whole lot of people should just be allowed to kill themselves with their own bad ideas.
riots are in part encouraged by the perceived lack of consequences to any individual in the riot due to there being too many people.
camera shutter clicks...
Face Rec scrubs image after image... wide angel shots...
police marquee select clouds of names for people standing in the "wrong" area... names get court summons sent to their registered addresses.
To this people say "masks"... sure masks... I'm sure the police have no solution for that idea.
Given that the bike lock guy was found, I'd take that very lightly.
We need more peaceful protests... sit ins... something you really can't get in trouble for... the violent aggressive stuff is toxic. And in the end, society at large won't be on your side when the hammer comes down.
Well, first I don't interact with facebook at all and haven't ever. I spotted facebook for what it was on day 1.
As to what I'm known as by google... which is the real issue here... their ads are very inaccurate for me. Their targeted ads are not even targeting the right region of the country. They localize me incorrectly. Which is funny because I don't always use a VPN with google.
The outlet that seems to localize me correctly is youtube and I only know that because I get campaign ads from local politicians on occasion when I watch youtube.
One of the better bits of evidence is seeing if the ads you're subjected to reveal some knowledge about what you've bought, are shopping for, your buying patterns etc.
The ads targeted at me don't reflect my searches, my purchases, or demographic information about me as a user.
So... objectively... their databases are confused or empty.
never provide your real name to these systems and they can't know it... I also like to provide false names.
I have five or six false names I use consistently when I want to poison a database so it thinks it has my real name.
Surrendering is a way to end an issue... but you end it by losing.
a screen name is not your birth name... and there is more than enough evidence concerning full anon sites to prove my case. 4chan is a good example.
Everything is hypocrisy if you never recognize the difference in anything. Then statements like "imprisonment is the same as kidnapping" start happening. ... ignore differences and you could say that a balanced diet is the same thing as over eating or under eating... because if you ignore quantity or nutritional diversity then all sorts of positive and negative statements concerning diet become the same.
If you ignore differences.
Which is what you relied upon to make your argument.
Its textbook fallacious assuming you didn't know it was fallacious... and demonstrates bad faith and a lack of integrity if you didn't.
So... you're either ignorant or dishonest at this point... can't think of a third option. Your opinion on that matter is welcome but make an effort to not make another big mistake like that again. It reflects poorly on you.
Something which I can track to some extent because I know your screen name. ;)
youtube started out as a video dating service... it doesn't matter... these things are not run by machines but people... the buck cannot be passed.
The whole concept of facebook... using your real name... instant fail.
North Koreans have food security issues and often extreme mal-nourishment. You're comparing them to Americans a hundred years ago that had no such problems.
Your argument has no credibility. We're done.
So we've established you didn't read what I said. Now you ask another question which I also answered.
I cited an emphasis on emulating older programs first due to any hardware issues.
This was all made clear in my first post which you didn't read.
We're done.
In the future, make a good faith effort to read what someone said before you presume to comment. You didn't do that and that has been proven beyond a shadow of a doubt. I will not comment further to you in this thread. Next time ACTUALLY read what someone says before you comment.
I referred to emulation... why would I do that? play devil's advocate please with your positions so I don't have to point out the obvious.
on food security alone you're not making sense.
I addressed it already.
No, I'm well aware of the issue. You just weren't listening. There is nothing you complained about that wasn't actually addressed previously. You were too busy constructing a strawman to actually hear the argument.
No we weren't at NK's wealth levels. Citation needed.
I can invalidate that rather easily with the housing price over the last 100 years or so:
https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-kjO...
If US median income were at NK levels 100 years ago no one would be able to buy homes at that price. They were.
You're likely not adjusting for inflation.
The US dollar has lost something like 96 percent of its value since 1917. Recalculate.
and you have a library of programs greater or smaller than the android and iOS?
Smaller.
If you made a point of allowing Win32 programs to run there would be a larger program library on the windows phone than on any other smart phone.
Windows phones became non-viable because they didn't have enough programs that would run on them. The actual phones themselves and the OS etc is generally fine. But because their OS is effectively in a minority it required MS to personally fill the entire gap and MS either could not or would not do that. If you could run Win32 programs then the windows phone might have won the struggle.
Instead they've lost.
strawmanning someone is not a great way to have a discussion...
http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/i...
We're done here.
As to what should and shouldn't be run, I'll be the judge of that thanks.
As a customer, if MS had made an effort to offer this as a feature on their phones, I would have bought one instead... I am not alone in this matter.
I'm a customer. It is what I want. Business 101 would suggest that you simply not argue that point since your objective as a business is to get me to give you money. So... enough.
As to your windows mobile 6~8... I'm talking about making it compatible with Windows DESKTOP versions 95~Windows 10. Bare minimum up to XP. And here you might ask "why the fixation on the old stuff instead of the latest stuff?.. Because the old stuff ran on computers with less ram and CPU power than what you find in many modern smart phones. So starting with the old first makes sense. What is more the resolution of displays back then is typically less than the resolution of a smartphone. So you can pack literally every pixel on the screen without any trouble.
Yep, I use remote apps on my phone all the time and I wouldn't need to if I could run the stupid program on the phone itself.
The big mistake with windows is not making the windows phone compatible with windows software.
here people will say "imcompatible hardware" to which I can respond with "emulation" to which they'll respond with "it will be slow" to which I can respond with "the phones are so much more powerful than older windows computers that even with inefficiency they can emulate all sorts of old windows programs"...
To this people will then say "why would anyone want to run old windows software on a phone"... well, a lot of that software is actually really impressive. Furthermore, it expands the liberary of programs that can be run on the phone beyond what the android and iOS has which would make Microsoft competitive with android for a lot of things that they otherwise can't be due to a lack of software.
And it gets better because there's nothing to stop people from writing new software that is compatible with that older archetecture. And you could ask why anyone would do that, but the easy answer is that there are a lot of people that know how to program programs for that but not for whatever new language your phones are using.
"IF" this worked relatively well, I wouldn't own an Android... I'd own a windows phone. I'd load it up with old programs I still use to this day, I'd put some old great games I love on there, I'd have all sorts of great productivity programs on there. I'd literally have an old version of Office on there. Full Excel support on your phone would be pretty sick.
And you could say "but the touch interface"... worst case, I'd have a little micro bluetooth keyboard and mouse. And whenever I needed mouse and keyboard, I'd grab that stuff and basically have a tiny laptop.
I'm not saying this is for everyone. But if the windows phones had this as a feature, I'd have bought a windows phone.
This is futile. The US lived very well in the past with tariffs. We weren't starving north koreans.
Peddle your silly arguments to those addled enough to be swayed by such nonsense.
You know nothing.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
""The Common Agricultural Policy (CAP) is the agricultural policy of the European Union.""
You just struck out on this topic. Talk you in the next thread but on this one... complete failure.
You can't be wrong all the time. ;)