Well... the point is that the legacy contracts in the rust belt are not competitive.
Those contracts either need to be renegotiated such that they are competitive or the wise business move will be to sunset ALL operations in those areas and relocate elsewhere.
To keep everything on an even keel they're going to want to do it slowly so they don't disrupt their supply chain. However, if the unions do not get reasonable very quickly they're going to die.
Period. Full stop. Negotiate or operations will be terminated. End of story.
Actually we've seen this happen in the US for many years with a lot of foreign companies. Often because US companies fail to resolve labor or regulatory issues and a foreign company cuts through the issue to find a way to produce products in the same place without incurring many of the previous costs.
Toyoda for example has done this repeatedly and been able to produce cars more cheaply in the US then many of their American competitors using the same labor.
A lot of it boils down to legacy corporations that have grown too large and inefficient.
Things need a reboot on occasion. Many large companies should go through a serious reorganization top to bottom including the renegotiation of all contracts to take into consideration new opportunities and concerns.
Your inability to string two thoughts together in your mind and draw a line between them isn't doing you any credit here. Further, insulting me just gives me license to rip you apart with impunity... so be it.
1. The US government only lost its role due to international pressure.
Process that point please. Take your time. You're stupid so I need to be patient with you.
2. This pressure was ongoing for many years but was overwhelmed by a general feeling internationally that for all the US government's sins it was a defender of a free and open internet. It would stand as an opposition to various forces that want to limit free speech.
3. What could have possibly changed that tipped the scales?
Please think about this and feel free to make some guesses. Again, you're clearly an asshat so this will probably take some time on your part.
4. If you guessed Snowden and the NSA situation then you've guessed correctly. Good job. That issue has tipped the scales and forced the US government out of its position as arbitrator of the international DNS registries.
Now I'm sure you have more ego then integrity, I doubt you'll admit your error and will instead make a pathetic attempt to cover your mistakes by doubling down.
Its okay... really stupid people and small children do this all the time. A child with a face full of chocolate will swear he didn't touch the chocolate cake. He's just too young and stupid to know his lie is obvious and unbelievable.
Sadly, the child unlike you will probably grow up to be a competent liar while I suspect you will forever be that sad creature that just doesn't know any better.
Its not your fault... your parents are probably stupid too.
Did you enjoy that as much as I did? Don't flame people on the internet. Some of us are packing napalm.
And really the whole 'honey bees are dying' thing is massively overhyped.
Some bees in some areas are dying off in huge numbers... and its almost certain that it involves either pesticides or some of the GM crops that interfere with insects.
End of story.
Will the over use of some pesticides or GM crops cause bees to become extinct? no. Obviously not. And anyone that suggests otherwise is a fuckwit.
To the contrary, what it means is that farmers, agro business, pesticide companies, and GM seed engineers need to be more careful about how they deploy pest control so they don't hurt bees.
If they hurt the bees it means bees die and that increases the costs of hiring apiaries to supply bees given that the farms keep killing off their colonies.
So it becomes at worst a cost calculation.
What's more expensive... going light on the pesticide and paying a reasonable fee for pollination. Or going heavy on the pesticide and consequently either paying more or not being able to get any bees at all for the crop.
Its a no brainer. They just need to be more careful with their pesticides. End of story... calm down you chicken little asshats.
As have I, however it becomes less a personality quirk and more a reality of mental process as people grow old in my experience.
Every discussion, every thought, everything becomes a retelling and a recalling of something in the past.
I've seen old techs cling to databases they programmed in 1984. Systems so old they run in DOS... requiring them to be run in Windows XP... which I recently had to virtualize in VMware.
This is one of the things I've been dealing with lately. I've tried to get my company to upgrade its database many times over the last couple years. To something with an actual GUI, that ran in a modern OS, that was mutiuser aware, network aware, internet aware... that was supported by vendors and understood by more then a handful of guys in their literal 70s.
But I got overruled despite the proposals to upgrade costing very little.
Why? Because the old tech in question know the old database and doesn't know anything else. And he's got so much cache with the company that they won't overrule him.
Now do I want to embarrass the guy or squeeze him out? Do I lack respect for his years of experience or want him to stay out of all my projects? No. I like and respect him.
But he's wrong here and his inflexibility costs the company money.
It takes about a month to train employees to use the old database. It the IT department in general has to spend about five to ten times the amount of time doing all sorts of simple things just because this one piece of software is so difficult to maintain.
It gets worse and I could go on... but none of you care... you're just going to knee-jerk on some bandwagon, put a label on me, and actually refuse to listen or think about what someone else is saying.
At some point, people have so much experience that they stop thinking and just start remembering the correct way to do things. Their minds become less processing centers and creative engines and more retrieval systems for past solutions.
In some professions that's fine because things don't change in that profession and the remembered solution if things don't change is correct.
However, in some businesses things change all the time and simply going to the remembered solution is counter productive.
It is unfair to assume an old tech will do that. However, I personally have seen it happen and it would be hard for me not to suspect it was happening.
So for example, we have older techs that we deal with all the time. And I make a point of going over the way they do things just to satisfy my curiosity. I do this with everyone... not just them. But I'm looking for different things when going over different groups. Its part of my job to make sure things are being done in the most reasonable way.
What I tend to find with the older techs is that they tend to use older software and hardware whenever they have an excuse to use it. And the younger techs tend to use newer software.
Now using new stuff doesn't make it better. In fact, new stuff is often buggy, feature poor, and expensive. The new techs sometimes do this because see an ad or don't know what to use so they just grab the first thing they find.
The older techs don't do that. They use something that was at one time at least very good. But it might not currently be good.
So there are pros and cons of either.
You just have to remember we're all human and we're going to do what makes sense to us at the time.
The old guys are going to pull out an old standard that they trust which could mean we're secure or it could mean we're using some retrograde relics that will just cause problems down the line when upgrade and replacement comes along and the machines or software is so hopelessly incompatible that it requires expensive changes. The new guys are going to take some chances with stuff they might not have as much experience with and that could be great or a disaster.
They had such a good deal here... all they had to do was not abuse it... and the fucktards in the US federal government just couldn't help themselves.
At this point, I'd welcome the dissolution of the republic. Let all the states go off and be 50 little countries. They can reform after the fact into larger conglomerates or federations if they want. But the US fed is consuming itself with a malignant belief in its own superiority.
They're endlessly arrogant. They think no rules apply to them because they make the rules. Even when the rules say whatever they're doing is outright illegal all they do is say something to the effect of "what are you going to do about it?"... And the answer of course is nothing... no one can slap cuffs on these people because they're the ones with the cuffs. No one watches the watch men as they say.
So I'm done. I'm not pushing for anarchy or whatever... but the US federal government is cesspit... De-authorize it and start over.
And because I'm paranoid enough to assume some government spider has flagged this as possibly seditious commentary. I'm not advocating violence which would be the only justification for your heavy handed abuses of power. I'm advocating passive resistance, any and all legal challenges that can slow you down, and if all else fails "going galt"... The machine is corrupt. Wipe the drive and reinstall from the factory discs. Short of that... I'll comply as required nothing more. American patriotism is increasingly difficult to justify especially if it involves loyalty to these criminals.
Drop cam isn't that great... its impossible to record anything without paying for a subscription fee which is silly. I have a computer with an internet connection... a live stream to my harddrive is all I need. heck the whole thing should work within my internal office network indifferent to whether the gateway connects to the internet at all.
Lots of IP cameras on the market and most of them don't trap you into more cloud services subscription dependence-ware.
I don't buy tech things to chain myself to companies. I buy stuff because it makes me freer or more powerful or something positive.
The NEST is cool... drop cams are garbage. Good quality hardware and good quality software but a business plan that ruins it all.
An additional note on the nest, they don't work on Radiant Heat systems... I really wanted one of those but the dumb things can't handle a radiant heat system. So "oh well"... Guess I have to use some Honeywell retrograde relic-ware.... nothing to be done for it.
I'm sorry, its the 21st century... get with the program.
Put your courses in the can the same way you do the text books. Many classes are not taught in an interactive fashion in the first place so why have teams of guys stand there and repeat the same thing in class after class year after year...
We have the technology... use it.
As to people bitching about administrators gobbling all the money... well, get used to it because the only way to squeeze that out of the system is to actually squeeze money out of the whole college system itself. And the only way you do that is by lowering tuition or subsidies. Since that apparently isn't happening... the administrators are going to keep gobbling everything that isn't utterly required to keep the college functional. Electric bills might go unpaid before the administrators take a pay cut.
Anyway, i don't really care... the point of the university is to perpetuate and disseminate knowledge. There's more then one way to do that and we might have to start looking at more sustainable methods of maintaining and evolving our education system.
Really unless people are mentally flexible enough to consider creative solutions all the bitching is going to be just that... bitching.
You'll never reach sexual parity unless you're suggesting women become lumber jacks.
Since that won't happen, please stop wasting our time with this stupidity... its dumb... these are opinions held by idiots OR people that never bothered to think about it seriously.
I'm assuming you're in category 2 like most people. Which is fine... think about it. A man who doesn't use his brain enjoys no advantage over a man that has none at all.
If the ladies want sexual parity they can apply for jobs that have MUCH worse ratios first... like coal miners, ?fisherPeople?, or a dozen other professions they don't seem to want.
Short of that, the political correctness nazis can go fuck themselves sideways with a chainsaw.
you were right until you said long hours... the biggest single statistical reason women get paid less then men is that they work statistically less hours.
Take myself. I just did an IT job for a company... I'm a consultant. And it took me about 48 hours... solid. I showed up and stayed onsite solving a critical problem and went into the next day without sleep.
Do you know how many women I run into in my profession?
Zero.
Do you know how many women I've ever heard of that have in ANY profession done what I consider a normal thing? Zero.
Have you ever heard of a women working 48 hours on a job without sleep? I'm sure it happens sometimes... but I do this sort of thing all the time. And I know of a lot of men that do this sort of thing all the time.
I have a friend that is a young lawyer... they work his ass off. He works those hours as well. His female associates do not. It just doesn't happen. They don't get leaned on.
Same thing with a young accountant friend... the firm slams him with work. They sent him off to India to audit companies there and he had to sit in some horrible little Indian office for days on end working out their accounting.
Guess how many women volunteered to go on that trip?
Zero.
So you know what... I'm tired of the femists claiming that this is all sexism and then hypocritically applying their own sexism to everyone else.
Fuck them. We work hard and we have the jobs we have because we work harder. We just do. We show up if needed at 2 AM on a phone call... we bust our asses for days without sleep. We keep a good attitude and a stiff upper lip. We don't devolve into passive aggressive mind games every time we don't get what we want.
I'm sorry if that offends but that is my reality. I deal with this shit every day and it is very rare that I can lean on any female coworker or employee to put in the extra hours to make things happen. Their shift ends and they go home. Every time. I was in an office recently with about 20 employees and about half of them were women.
We needed everyone to help us out with something and only the men stayed... and not even all the men. But all the women went home. Every single one.
Women get paid less because they work fewer hours. This has actually been proven by many studies. So whining about not getting the same pay is asking to be paid for work they're not doing. No.
disparities in employment do not = racism/sexism/discrimination at all.
How many black lumber jacks are there?
Is that racist or are you wrong?
Its a rhetorical question... your pathetic attempt to call me a sexist or insensitive to issues you frankly have a childish grasp of is an insult to intelligent discourse. Kindly try again this time without clumbsy attempts to cite me for something awful.
Women aren't going to work the American codemonkey hours living on soda and stale pizza. So I don't see the point.
Yes I know a lot of it isn't like that etc... but that's the sort of time the companies like... its efficient... and productive... its typically cheaper if not just cheap. But by all means... have fun getting a different demographic to grind the code.
Post what is ultimately a political topic on a technology forum and be shocked and amazed by the tech people dismissing the asshattery with a wave of the hand and going back to what they really care about... which isn't some collection of billionaires and politicians trying to spend money on things that will make us like them.
That's all they're doing. LIKE US... LOVE US... we do these things... we help koalas!... LOVE US... you see the same thing with actors sometimes when their career starts going sideways... they'll start getting really into the environment...
No... they just get away with it because its kept out of the light of day. Part of the reason they want to keep it quite. Already with the exposure they're getting its getting attacked by congress for the first time EVER.
Now consider what would happen if anyone that had this happen was legally allowed to talk about it... the whole practice would not be acceptable IF people were kept aware of it.
Its like those guys that kept women in their rape dungeons... living next to families having BBQs... they got away with it because no one knew.
They should made it illegal for companies to be gagged from making public comment when served with such warrants. They're a violation of the first amendment at the very least.
Freedom of speech. You silence me and make it illegal to even say I was silenced... how is that not a violation?
They've been stealing from the account... effectively. Yes yes... they passed some laws that let them siphon money off the gas tax account to pay for buses and subways and other things... but the point of the gas tax was to pay for roads. Period. Not even bridges. Roads.
I would rather have a musical chairs system for funding things like this... You know the child's game where some number of children run around a circle of chairs while music plays... and over time one chair is removed... so that every time one of the children gets eliminated. I remember enjoying it when I was six. Children that find a seat continue the game. Children that don't are out and wait for the next round.That is, fund the roads first with the gas tax money. Fund them completely. They get first draw on the account period. The gas tax should only be raised if the tax is not able to fund the roads if 100 percent of it is directed to the roads. Once they're funded, you can take what is left to pay for the bridges. If the bridges don't have enough from that then you can put a toll both on the bridge. However, in nearly all cases the left over in the gas tax should fund the bridges without any trouble. Next you come into the real culprit here... mass transit, bike paths, and other things that really should be funded locally and not draw from a national or state tax. I have no problem with gas tax money going to these things IF there is money left over. It is NOT okay if they're impoverishing was is basically the road fund to pay for buses etc.
There probably will not be enough left over to pay for the buses etc. And the solution here is pretty obvious... either raise bus fares OR raise local taxes to increase subsidies for buses. You do NOT take from state or national road taxes to pay for you bike paths and city only mass transit system. The road network serves the whole country which is why a gas tax is legitimate. Furthermore, why are motorists paying a gas tax to pay for buses or bikes.
If you want to fund those things either levy a general tax on the public at large or tax the people that actually use the service. I know... a lot of the people on the buses are not terribly well off so who wants to put a regressive tax on them. Me neither. And with bikes we all feel an eco friendly warm glow about people getting around using muscle power. Great... Really... but you don't pay for that with a road tax for the same reason you shouldn't fund your education program by putting a tax on cell phones. They do that as well by the way. Your cell phone bill... a part of that is going to all sorts of unrelated government programs that have nothing to do with communication and especially not with your cell phone service.
Please keep the charity projects to the general fund and stop trying to hide bullshit stealth taxes in the literally hundreds of little fees we pay all the time so you can pretend like it isn't part of the general tax burden. Just man up and put it in the general budget. If people aren't impressed with your idea then guess what... your program lost the game of budgetary musical chairs... get over it... lots of programs and ideas aren't going to get funded. Don't be a sneak and hide the tax somewhere that the rubes won't find it. It just makes guys like me increasingly cynical while giving false impressions of what things cost to the incurious.
What makes you think they don't have practical experience?
Do you think we keep that sort of knowledge from the Japanese, South Koreans, and Israelis?
We don't... they know... they've known for a long time. If they don't have nuclear weapons it is because they've chosen not to have them... but they could change their mind in an afternoon.
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Well... the point is that the legacy contracts in the rust belt are not competitive.
Those contracts either need to be renegotiated such that they are competitive or the wise business move will be to sunset ALL operations in those areas and relocate elsewhere.
To keep everything on an even keel they're going to want to do it slowly so they don't disrupt their supply chain. However, if the unions do not get reasonable very quickly they're going to die.
Period. Full stop. Negotiate or operations will be terminated. End of story.
Actually we've seen this happen in the US for many years with a lot of foreign companies. Often because US companies fail to resolve labor or regulatory issues and a foreign company cuts through the issue to find a way to produce products in the same place without incurring many of the previous costs.
Toyoda for example has done this repeatedly and been able to produce cars more cheaply in the US then many of their American competitors using the same labor.
A lot of it boils down to legacy corporations that have grown too large and inefficient.
Things need a reboot on occasion. Many large companies should go through a serious reorganization top to bottom including the renegotiation of all contracts to take into consideration new opportunities and concerns.
creating a bridge s all we've done for years... its a waste of time.
And in what way does that contradict my initial statement?
Oh wait, it supports it. thanks for backing me up...
please support my position while implying it contradicts me... it funny.
Your inability to string two thoughts together in your mind and draw a line between them isn't doing you any credit here. Further, insulting me just gives me license to rip you apart with impunity... so be it.
1. The US government only lost its role due to international pressure.
Process that point please. Take your time. You're stupid so I need to be patient with you.
2. This pressure was ongoing for many years but was overwhelmed by a general feeling internationally that for all the US government's sins it was a defender of a free and open internet. It would stand as an opposition to various forces that want to limit free speech.
3. What could have possibly changed that tipped the scales?
Please think about this and feel free to make some guesses. Again, you're clearly an asshat so this will probably take some time on your part.
4. If you guessed Snowden and the NSA situation then you've guessed correctly. Good job. That issue has tipped the scales and forced the US government out of its position as arbitrator of the international DNS registries.
Now I'm sure you have more ego then integrity, I doubt you'll admit your error and will instead make a pathetic attempt to cover your mistakes by doubling down.
Its okay... really stupid people and small children do this all the time. A child with a face full of chocolate will swear he didn't touch the chocolate cake. He's just too young and stupid to know his lie is obvious and unbelievable.
Sadly, the child unlike you will probably grow up to be a competent liar while I suspect you will forever be that sad creature that just doesn't know any better.
Its not your fault... your parents are probably stupid too.
Did you enjoy that as much as I did? Don't flame people on the internet. Some of us are packing napalm.
Good day, sir.
nor is their evidence of anything linking the deaths to anything...
so clearly its caused by nothing....
or the evidence hasn't been collected.
Its actually a lot for bee keepers.
And really the whole 'honey bees are dying' thing is massively overhyped.
Some bees in some areas are dying off in huge numbers... and its almost certain that it involves either pesticides or some of the GM crops that interfere with insects.
End of story.
Will the over use of some pesticides or GM crops cause bees to become extinct? no. Obviously not. And anyone that suggests otherwise is a fuckwit.
To the contrary, what it means is that farmers, agro business, pesticide companies, and GM seed engineers need to be more careful about how they deploy pest control so they don't hurt bees.
If they hurt the bees it means bees die and that increases the costs of hiring apiaries to supply bees given that the farms keep killing off their colonies.
So it becomes at worst a cost calculation.
What's more expensive... going light on the pesticide and paying a reasonable fee for pollination. Or going heavy on the pesticide and consequently either paying more or not being able to get any bees at all for the crop.
Its a no brainer. They just need to be more careful with their pesticides. End of story... calm down you chicken little asshats.
As have I, however it becomes less a personality quirk and more a reality of mental process as people grow old in my experience.
Every discussion, every thought, everything becomes a retelling and a recalling of something in the past.
I've seen old techs cling to databases they programmed in 1984. Systems so old they run in DOS... requiring them to be run in Windows XP... which I recently had to virtualize in VMware.
This is one of the things I've been dealing with lately. I've tried to get my company to upgrade its database many times over the last couple years. To something with an actual GUI, that ran in a modern OS, that was mutiuser aware, network aware, internet aware... that was supported by vendors and understood by more then a handful of guys in their literal 70s.
But I got overruled despite the proposals to upgrade costing very little.
Why? Because the old tech in question know the old database and doesn't know anything else. And he's got so much cache with the company that they won't overrule him.
Now do I want to embarrass the guy or squeeze him out? Do I lack respect for his years of experience or want him to stay out of all my projects? No. I like and respect him.
But he's wrong here and his inflexibility costs the company money.
It takes about a month to train employees to use the old database. It the IT department in general has to spend about five to ten times the amount of time doing all sorts of simple things just because this one piece of software is so difficult to maintain.
It gets worse and I could go on... but none of you care... you're just going to knee-jerk on some bandwagon, put a label on me, and actually refuse to listen or think about what someone else is saying.
Way to prove me wrong. /s
At some point, people have so much experience that they stop thinking and just start remembering the correct way to do things. Their minds become less processing centers and creative engines and more retrieval systems for past solutions.
In some professions that's fine because things don't change in that profession and the remembered solution if things don't change is correct.
However, in some businesses things change all the time and simply going to the remembered solution is counter productive.
It is unfair to assume an old tech will do that. However, I personally have seen it happen and it would be hard for me not to suspect it was happening.
So for example, we have older techs that we deal with all the time. And I make a point of going over the way they do things just to satisfy my curiosity. I do this with everyone... not just them. But I'm looking for different things when going over different groups. Its part of my job to make sure things are being done in the most reasonable way.
What I tend to find with the older techs is that they tend to use older software and hardware whenever they have an excuse to use it. And the younger techs tend to use newer software.
Now using new stuff doesn't make it better. In fact, new stuff is often buggy, feature poor, and expensive. The new techs sometimes do this because see an ad or don't know what to use so they just grab the first thing they find.
The older techs don't do that. They use something that was at one time at least very good. But it might not currently be good.
So there are pros and cons of either.
You just have to remember we're all human and we're going to do what makes sense to us at the time.
The old guys are going to pull out an old standard that they trust which could mean we're secure or it could mean we're using some retrograde relics that will just cause problems down the line when upgrade and replacement comes along and the machines or software is so hopelessly incompatible that it requires expensive changes. The new guys are going to take some chances with stuff they might not have as much experience with and that could be great or a disaster.
I don't see why I should care... the point is that the product is unreasonably expensive especially over time.
They had such a good deal here... all they had to do was not abuse it... and the fucktards in the US federal government just couldn't help themselves.
At this point, I'd welcome the dissolution of the republic. Let all the states go off and be 50 little countries. They can reform after the fact into larger conglomerates or federations if they want. But the US fed is consuming itself with a malignant belief in its own superiority.
They're endlessly arrogant. They think no rules apply to them because they make the rules. Even when the rules say whatever they're doing is outright illegal all they do is say something to the effect of "what are you going to do about it?"... And the answer of course is nothing... no one can slap cuffs on these people because they're the ones with the cuffs. No one watches the watch men as they say.
So I'm done. I'm not pushing for anarchy or whatever... but the US federal government is cesspit... De-authorize it and start over.
And because I'm paranoid enough to assume some government spider has flagged this as possibly seditious commentary. I'm not advocating violence which would be the only justification for your heavy handed abuses of power. I'm advocating passive resistance, any and all legal challenges that can slow you down, and if all else fails "going galt"... The machine is corrupt. Wipe the drive and reinstall from the factory discs. Short of that... I'll comply as required nothing more. American patriotism is increasingly difficult to justify especially if it involves loyalty to these criminals.
Drop cam isn't that great... its impossible to record anything without paying for a subscription fee which is silly. I have a computer with an internet connection... a live stream to my harddrive is all I need. heck the whole thing should work within my internal office network indifferent to whether the gateway connects to the internet at all.
Lots of IP cameras on the market and most of them don't trap you into more cloud services subscription dependence-ware.
I don't buy tech things to chain myself to companies. I buy stuff because it makes me freer or more powerful or something positive.
The NEST is cool... drop cams are garbage. Good quality hardware and good quality software but a business plan that ruins it all.
An additional note on the nest, they don't work on Radiant Heat systems... I really wanted one of those but the dumb things can't handle a radiant heat system. So "oh well"... Guess I have to use some Honeywell retrograde relic-ware.... nothing to be done for it.
I'm sorry, its the 21st century... get with the program.
Put your courses in the can the same way you do the text books. Many classes are not taught in an interactive fashion in the first place so why have teams of guys stand there and repeat the same thing in class after class year after year...
We have the technology... use it.
As to people bitching about administrators gobbling all the money... well, get used to it because the only way to squeeze that out of the system is to actually squeeze money out of the whole college system itself. And the only way you do that is by lowering tuition or subsidies. Since that apparently isn't happening... the administrators are going to keep gobbling everything that isn't utterly required to keep the college functional. Electric bills might go unpaid before the administrators take a pay cut.
Anyway, i don't really care... the point of the university is to perpetuate and disseminate knowledge. There's more then one way to do that and we might have to start looking at more sustainable methods of maintaining and evolving our education system.
Really unless people are mentally flexible enough to consider creative solutions all the bitching is going to be just that... bitching.
You'll never reach sexual parity unless you're suggesting women become lumber jacks.
Since that won't happen, please stop wasting our time with this stupidity... its dumb... these are opinions held by idiots OR people that never bothered to think about it seriously.
I'm assuming you're in category 2 like most people. Which is fine... think about it. A man who doesn't use his brain enjoys no advantage over a man that has none at all.
If the ladies want sexual parity they can apply for jobs that have MUCH worse ratios first... like coal miners, ?fisherPeople?, or a dozen other professions they don't seem to want.
Short of that, the political correctness nazis can go fuck themselves sideways with a chainsaw.
you were right until you said long hours... the biggest single statistical reason women get paid less then men is that they work statistically less hours.
Take myself. I just did an IT job for a company... I'm a consultant. And it took me about 48 hours... solid. I showed up and stayed onsite solving a critical problem and went into the next day without sleep.
Do you know how many women I run into in my profession?
Zero.
Do you know how many women I've ever heard of that have in ANY profession done what I consider a normal thing? Zero.
Have you ever heard of a women working 48 hours on a job without sleep? I'm sure it happens sometimes... but I do this sort of thing all the time. And I know of a lot of men that do this sort of thing all the time.
I have a friend that is a young lawyer... they work his ass off. He works those hours as well. His female associates do not. It just doesn't happen. They don't get leaned on.
Same thing with a young accountant friend... the firm slams him with work. They sent him off to India to audit companies there and he had to sit in some horrible little Indian office for days on end working out their accounting.
Guess how many women volunteered to go on that trip?
Zero.
So you know what... I'm tired of the femists claiming that this is all sexism and then hypocritically applying their own sexism to everyone else.
Fuck them. We work hard and we have the jobs we have because we work harder. We just do. We show up if needed at 2 AM on a phone call... we bust our asses for days without sleep. We keep a good attitude and a stiff upper lip. We don't devolve into passive aggressive mind games every time we don't get what we want.
I'm sorry if that offends but that is my reality. I deal with this shit every day and it is very rare that I can lean on any female coworker or employee to put in the extra hours to make things happen. Their shift ends and they go home. Every time. I was in an office recently with about 20 employees and about half of them were women.
We needed everyone to help us out with something and only the men stayed... and not even all the men. But all the women went home. Every single one.
Women get paid less because they work fewer hours. This has actually been proven by many studies. So whining about not getting the same pay is asking to be paid for work they're not doing. No.
nah... they have tits.
disparities in employment do not = racism/sexism/discrimination at all.
How many black lumber jacks are there?
Is that racist or are you wrong?
Its a rhetorical question... your pathetic attempt to call me a sexist or insensitive to issues you frankly have a childish grasp of is an insult to intelligent discourse. Kindly try again this time without clumbsy attempts to cite me for something awful.
Women aren't going to work the American codemonkey hours living on soda and stale pizza. So I don't see the point.
Yes I know a lot of it isn't like that etc... but that's the sort of time the companies like... its efficient... and productive... its typically cheaper if not just cheap. But by all means... have fun getting a different demographic to grind the code.
Post what is ultimately a political topic on a technology forum and be shocked and amazed by the tech people dismissing the asshattery with a wave of the hand and going back to what they really care about... which isn't some collection of billionaires and politicians trying to spend money on things that will make us like them.
That's all they're doing. LIKE US... LOVE US... we do these things... we help koalas!... LOVE US... you see the same thing with actors sometimes when their career starts going sideways... they'll start getting really into the environment...
But this topic.
Sexism.
End of story... what more needs be said?
No... they just get away with it because its kept out of the light of day. Part of the reason they want to keep it quite. Already with the exposure they're getting its getting attacked by congress for the first time EVER.
Now consider what would happen if anyone that had this happen was legally allowed to talk about it... the whole practice would not be acceptable IF people were kept aware of it.
Its like those guys that kept women in their rape dungeons... living next to families having BBQs... they got away with it because no one knew.
They should made it illegal for companies to be gagged from making public comment when served with such warrants. They're a violation of the first amendment at the very least.
Freedom of speech. You silence me and make it illegal to even say I was silenced... how is that not a violation?
End of story.
They've been stealing from the account... effectively. Yes yes... they passed some laws that let them siphon money off the gas tax account to pay for buses and subways and other things... but the point of the gas tax was to pay for roads. Period. Not even bridges. Roads.
I would rather have a musical chairs system for funding things like this... You know the child's game where some number of children run around a circle of chairs while music plays... and over time one chair is removed... so that every time one of the children gets eliminated. I remember enjoying it when I was six. Children that find a seat continue the game. Children that don't are out and wait for the next round.That is, fund the roads first with the gas tax money. Fund them completely. They get first draw on the account period. The gas tax should only be raised if the tax is not able to fund the roads if 100 percent of it is directed to the roads. Once they're funded, you can take what is left to pay for the bridges. If the bridges don't have enough from that then you can put a toll both on the bridge. However, in nearly all cases the left over in the gas tax should fund the bridges without any trouble. Next you come into the real culprit here... mass transit, bike paths, and other things that really should be funded locally and not draw from a national or state tax. I have no problem with gas tax money going to these things IF there is money left over. It is NOT okay if they're impoverishing was is basically the road fund to pay for buses etc.
There probably will not be enough left over to pay for the buses etc. And the solution here is pretty obvious... either raise bus fares OR raise local taxes to increase subsidies for buses. You do NOT take from state or national road taxes to pay for you bike paths and city only mass transit system. The road network serves the whole country which is why a gas tax is legitimate. Furthermore, why are motorists paying a gas tax to pay for buses or bikes.
If you want to fund those things either levy a general tax on the public at large or tax the people that actually use the service. I know... a lot of the people on the buses are not terribly well off so who wants to put a regressive tax on them. Me neither. And with bikes we all feel an eco friendly warm glow about people getting around using muscle power. Great... Really... but you don't pay for that with a road tax for the same reason you shouldn't fund your education program by putting a tax on cell phones. They do that as well by the way. Your cell phone bill... a part of that is going to all sorts of unrelated government programs that have nothing to do with communication and especially not with your cell phone service.
Please keep the charity projects to the general fund and stop trying to hide bullshit stealth taxes in the literally hundreds of little fees we pay all the time so you can pretend like it isn't part of the general tax burden. Just man up and put it in the general budget. If people aren't impressed with your idea then guess what... your program lost the game of budgetary musical chairs... get over it... lots of programs and ideas aren't going to get funded. Don't be a sneak and hide the tax somewhere that the rubes won't find it. It just makes guys like me increasingly cynical while giving false impressions of what things cost to the incurious.
What makes you think they don't have practical experience?
Do you think we keep that sort of knowledge from the Japanese, South Koreans, and Israelis?
We don't... they know... they've known for a long time. If they don't have nuclear weapons it is because they've chosen not to have them... but they could change their mind in an afternoon.
If we have the energy we can make the water from local molecules. Energy is really the only problem ever.
With enough energy we could desalinate the oceans. Power power power.