By all means, tax me at the same rate you tax everyone else... but you don't get to take something from me just because you want it.
Get in that mode and you'll discourage people from building great or valuable things. Because they'll know that some weasel eyed dickless asshat will come along and cease it at gun point.
You either let people keep what they build or you society will go backwards.
... You say that but you don't give me any way to even estimate what you mean by inflation.
Please give me a baseline.
And understand, that is more expensive in real terms which is proven by the fact that oil companies are finding previously unprofitable drilling methods to be reasonable due to higher prices. That means in real terms the price has increased.
If you say its 100 percent inflation then you're just foaming at the mouth.
Even if you adjust for inflation gas has increased in cost substantially. If the price of gas dropped to what it was 10 years ago adjusted for inflation most of the fracking operations around the US would be unprofitable.
These people don't understand that the market is a dynamic system. You change one thing and everything responds to it. They keep treating prices like static qualities that will sit still when you change things allowing them to patiently arrange everything one bit at a time until its just how they want it. Well, it doesn't work that way. The instant they move one thing everything else starts going up or down or sideways to respond. So rather then create order they just enhance the chaos at increasingly ruinous expense.
The implication seems to be that we cease google and face book as state assets... nationalize them.
No. We're not some pathetic third world dystopian shithole... yet. And until we are, modern, civilized, and rational countries don't go around stealing the assets of companies or individuals. Its moronic. You do that and you discourage improvement. That's what happens in countries that never get better. They got desperate at some point and they stole from the people. The people responded by not improving anything. They stopped. They know that if they improve anything the government or some other powerful person or group will take it from them.
So they leave the stones in the fields. They don't paint the houses. They don't build anything that they think someone might want to take from them.
Its a nightmare. DO NOT steal from the people. They will shut down and go into survival mode.
1. The oil will be sold where they want to sell it regardless. They're currently shipping it through other pipelines and ferrying it by truck where there are no links. You did not stop the flow.
2. The canadians can build their own export facilities in Canada entirely bypassing the US. The canadians already take your position as a betrayal of our shared economic arrangement. The deal was that we'd provide certain assets to them and in return we got first bid on resources. You've made liars of us and the canadians are not happy about it.
3. Pipelines have issues but they're less then alternative systems which WILL be implemented if we don't have a pipeline. Trucks crash and leak etc... and on balance you're voting for that over the other. Your idea has more environmental damage. Its anti environment.
4. Most of the people complaining about the pipeline don't live anywhere near it so I don't buy this nimbyism nonsense because it isn't even their backyard.
5. As to jobs and china.... I didn't say anything about either. That's you. I'm saying accept it because the oil will flow either way and all you're really doing is inconveniencing people, making things more complicated, and pissing people off.
I don't disagree... the point is that so many in our society don't understand anything about how the society is sustained.
They don't understand where anything comes from or how it is obtained.
That includes the fuel. Everyone just assumes it comes from the store as if its being produced on site and the price is something the clerk behind the counter makes up on an hour to hour basis.
I'd say ignorance. Its the same mentality that goes to the store and buys meat thinking that meat is a slab of product divorced from its source... aka a live animal at some point.
I am not a vegetarian. But I am often annoyed by my fellow urban dwellers that don't seem to understand where anything comes from or what you must do to sustain the system.
I really think everyone as children should be taken out to the country to see a real farm in action... and then follow that forward to the grain mills, dairies, and slaughter houses.
I suspect you'll have more vegetarians when all is said and done... but the meat eaters that remain wont be such doe eyed fuckwits.
Except for it isn't because you can't reduce your energy consumption to zero.
What happens is that people must pay the price whatever it is until it reaches such a high price that it creates a real crisis.
You create the crisis and you might have riots in the streets or a general break down in society. So have fun with that.
But the prior while people will do what they can to reduce consumption they still need to drive to work, they still need to drive around town, they still need to use energy. And raising prices just takes money out of their pockets to no greater purpose.
If your goal is to radically reduce energy, your best bet is to go around and just kill about half the population of the world.
Short of that... energy consumption can only go so low.
Every action that increases the cost of gasoline increases the profit in producing it.
What the anti oil people have failed to grasp is that they're making the oil companies rich at everyone else's expense.
If I didn't know better, I'd think the whole anti oil campaign were a conspiracy by the oil companies to raise prices. Because that has been the result.
We are only getting fracking in the first place because oil got expensive enough to justify the practice. If oil were cheaper then there would be no fracking.
Increase the cost further and see what happens next. But it won't be the green revolution.
Long story short, batteries are what is holding back green technology. Batteries are shit. Until that changes the green revolution will mostly be a luxury feel good item for the wealthy. Anyone outside of the elite simply won't be able to afford to go fully solar with an electric car, etc.
Which means we're on gas. And prices for gas will have to get astronomic before it will overwhelm the price advantage that gas has over electric.
You think a few grow lights are going to significantly warm the earth?
By your logic geo thermal cooling and heating wouldn't work.
Yet they do... People run air through the ground to cool it... and it stays cool all year round even if you run the system 24 hours a day 7 days a week.
In a battle between your petty heating system and the planet... the planet wins.
They were all linked to the federal system which itself failed... so its largely irrelevant.
The point remains that I'd hardly blame Oracle because another ACA exchange failed. You say some of them didn't fail?... Fine... what does that prove?
It was mostly a disaster.
And that isn't even addressing the law, its effect on the healthcare system, the millions of people that were inconvenienced, the probably hundreds to thousands that will have shorter lives or die because it... we won't get into that. Just on the website roll out and the exchanges... you're looking at a systemic failure. Driven by the knowledge that if the law were subjected to proper democratic procedure it would die.
That's why the democrat's rushed it. Because they knew they had a window where they could get away with anything and they wanted to exploit it. They knew that window was closing so they jammed everything through as fast as they could...
And that meant proper planning etc didn't happen... and that meant that most of the exchanges failed and the federal exchange failed.
And again... that's not getting into the millions of people this hurt, the violation of civil rights, etc.
Oracle does not have a reputation for being shit no matter what you think. And that reputation is largely a product of their successful track record with many customers.
Obviously some people aren't going to be happy for legitimate and illegitimate reasons.
That's normal.
But on balance, Oracle provides a good product.
the primary complaint i hear about them is that they're so expensive.
They are expensive. I completely agree. i wouldn't buy their stuff either because its just not cost effective.
That said, when you're rolling out an enterprise database... you might not care about that price in the scheme of things which is I suspect how they justify the price in the first place.
if you're going to the trouble to build an underground green house then you can go to the trouble to put a few solar panels/wind mill out with a battery bank.
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No I'm not.
If I build something then it isn't the state's.
By all means, tax me at the same rate you tax everyone else... but you don't get to take something from me just because you want it.
Get in that mode and you'll discourage people from building great or valuable things. Because they'll know that some weasel eyed dickless asshat will come along and cease it at gun point.
You either let people keep what they build or you society will go backwards.
which means what in the context of this topic?
... You say that but you don't give me any way to even estimate what you mean by inflation.
Please give me a baseline.
And understand, that is more expensive in real terms which is proven by the fact that oil companies are finding previously unprofitable drilling methods to be reasonable due to higher prices. That means in real terms the price has increased.
If you say its 100 percent inflation then you're just foaming at the mouth.
Even if you adjust for inflation gas has increased in cost substantially. If the price of gas dropped to what it was 10 years ago adjusted for inflation most of the fracking operations around the US would be unprofitable.
These people don't understand that the market is a dynamic system. You change one thing and everything responds to it. They keep treating prices like static qualities that will sit still when you change things allowing them to patiently arrange everything one bit at a time until its just how they want it. Well, it doesn't work that way. The instant they move one thing everything else starts going up or down or sideways to respond. So rather then create order they just enhance the chaos at increasingly ruinous expense.
The implication seems to be that we cease google and face book as state assets... nationalize them.
No. We're not some pathetic third world dystopian shithole... yet. And until we are, modern, civilized, and rational countries don't go around stealing the assets of companies or individuals. Its moronic. You do that and you discourage improvement. That's what happens in countries that never get better. They got desperate at some point and they stole from the people. The people responded by not improving anything. They stopped. They know that if they improve anything the government or some other powerful person or group will take it from them.
So they leave the stones in the fields. They don't paint the houses. They don't build anything that they think someone might want to take from them.
Its a nightmare. DO NOT steal from the people. They will shut down and go into survival mode.
1. The oil will be sold where they want to sell it regardless. They're currently shipping it through other pipelines and ferrying it by truck where there are no links. You did not stop the flow.
2. The canadians can build their own export facilities in Canada entirely bypassing the US. The canadians already take your position as a betrayal of our shared economic arrangement. The deal was that we'd provide certain assets to them and in return we got first bid on resources. You've made liars of us and the canadians are not happy about it.
3. Pipelines have issues but they're less then alternative systems which WILL be implemented if we don't have a pipeline. Trucks crash and leak etc... and on balance you're voting for that over the other. Your idea has more environmental damage. Its anti environment.
4. Most of the people complaining about the pipeline don't live anywhere near it so I don't buy this nimbyism nonsense because it isn't even their backyard.
5. As to jobs and china.... I didn't say anything about either. That's you. I'm saying accept it because the oil will flow either way and all you're really doing is inconveniencing people, making things more complicated, and pissing people off.
Nothing more.
I don't disagree... the point is that so many in our society don't understand anything about how the society is sustained.
They don't understand where anything comes from or how it is obtained.
That includes the fuel. Everyone just assumes it comes from the store as if its being produced on site and the price is something the clerk behind the counter makes up on an hour to hour basis.
Myopic asshats will be myopic asshats.
Yeah but batteries are the only practical and portable means of storing that kind or power short of gasoline. And batteries in that context are crap.
Except that hasn't really happened.
What is happening is that oil companies are laughing at you all the way to the bank.
At you... laughing... to the bank.
Keep it up... they find it hilarious.
Oh I know... I'm not against the pipeline.
Resisting it is meaningless. The oil will flow one way or another and making that process less efficient is not good for business or the environment.
I'd say ignorance. Its the same mentality that goes to the store and buys meat thinking that meat is a slab of product divorced from its source... aka a live animal at some point.
I am not a vegetarian. But I am often annoyed by my fellow urban dwellers that don't seem to understand where anything comes from or what you must do to sustain the system.
I really think everyone as children should be taken out to the country to see a real farm in action... and then follow that forward to the grain mills, dairies, and slaughter houses.
I suspect you'll have more vegetarians when all is said and done... but the meat eaters that remain wont be such doe eyed fuckwits.
Except for it isn't because you can't reduce your energy consumption to zero.
What happens is that people must pay the price whatever it is until it reaches such a high price that it creates a real crisis.
You create the crisis and you might have riots in the streets or a general break down in society. So have fun with that.
But the prior while people will do what they can to reduce consumption they still need to drive to work, they still need to drive around town, they still need to use energy. And raising prices just takes money out of their pockets to no greater purpose.
If your goal is to radically reduce energy, your best bet is to go around and just kill about half the population of the world.
Short of that... energy consumption can only go so low.
Your economic analogy is false.
Imagine rather that ALL food prices are increased.
Will you pay or starve?
what in the name of god are you trying to say?
Every action that increases the cost of gasoline increases the profit in producing it.
What the anti oil people have failed to grasp is that they're making the oil companies rich at everyone else's expense.
If I didn't know better, I'd think the whole anti oil campaign were a conspiracy by the oil companies to raise prices. Because that has been the result.
We are only getting fracking in the first place because oil got expensive enough to justify the practice. If oil were cheaper then there would be no fracking.
Increase the cost further and see what happens next. But it won't be the green revolution.
Long story short, batteries are what is holding back green technology. Batteries are shit. Until that changes the green revolution will mostly be a luxury feel good item for the wealthy. Anyone outside of the elite simply won't be able to afford to go fully solar with an electric car, etc.
Which means we're on gas. And prices for gas will have to get astronomic before it will overwhelm the price advantage that gas has over electric.
spend 400 dollars for a vr headset then.
VR headsets are expensive... and really who wants to shell out more money for another bit of junk.
But this duel use concept has value. All the expensive bits are already in your phone.
This is perfect. This is how it should be done.
How many kilowatt hours do you see all of that using per day?
You think a few grow lights are going to significantly warm the earth?
By your logic geo thermal cooling and heating wouldn't work.
Yet they do... People run air through the ground to cool it... and it stays cool all year round even if you run the system 24 hours a day 7 days a week.
In a battle between your petty heating system and the planet... the planet wins.
A wiser move would be kicking your moronic politicians out of office.
They did this and they'll do it again or something just as bad until you clean house.
So long as you tolerate bad politicians you're partially responsible and your tax money is forfeit.
They were all linked to the federal system which itself failed... so its largely irrelevant.
The point remains that I'd hardly blame Oracle because another ACA exchange failed. You say some of them didn't fail?... Fine... what does that prove?
It was mostly a disaster.
And that isn't even addressing the law, its effect on the healthcare system, the millions of people that were inconvenienced, the probably hundreds to thousands that will have shorter lives or die because it... we won't get into that. Just on the website roll out and the exchanges... you're looking at a systemic failure. Driven by the knowledge that if the law were subjected to proper democratic procedure it would die.
That's why the democrat's rushed it. Because they knew they had a window where they could get away with anything and they wanted to exploit it. They knew that window was closing so they jammed everything through as fast as they could...
And that meant proper planning etc didn't happen... and that meant that most of the exchanges failed and the federal exchange failed.
And again... that's not getting into the millions of people this hurt, the violation of civil rights, etc.
Except for many of them work just fine.
Oracle does not have a reputation for being shit no matter what you think. And that reputation is largely a product of their successful track record with many customers.
Obviously some people aren't going to be happy for legitimate and illegitimate reasons.
That's normal.
But on balance, Oracle provides a good product.
the primary complaint i hear about them is that they're so expensive.
They are expensive. I completely agree. i wouldn't buy their stuff either because its just not cost effective.
That said, when you're rolling out an enterprise database... you might not care about that price in the scheme of things which is I suspect how they justify the price in the first place.
The vast majority of oracle applications work quite well.
Saying otherwise merely admits your own ignorance.
if you're going to the trouble to build an underground green house then you can go to the trouble to put a few solar panels/wind mill out with a battery bank.