So you're a euro and are upset with Americans trying to take a different path than the Europeans and proud of their distinct traditions and philosophies?
This is why increasingly we are disinterested in subsidizing your own freedom.
Shitting on the US is not in your interest, sport. The EU is collapsing and you are weak. You have a resurgent Russia to the East, a resurgent Islamic agenda to the south east... and your population and culture are so compromised that if a real nasty shock hits you... Well, god help you because I sure as fuck won't.
Lets just have the democrats be the ruling party of the United States. They can take care of everyone for the greater good. The party leaders will determine what is in the interest of the community... We can call it "communism".
Seriously, this blacklisting of people for even daring to support anything but the democrats has grown grotesque.
And to make things sadder, we have evidence that the democrats rigged their primaries to get Hillary the nomination. Which means you're not merely a bastard for voting for something besides the democrats but you're also a bastard for voting for the democratic candidate that wasn't picked by the party bosses.
That's fucked up, gents. And if you keep buying into this shit, then the democracy is gone. We're all back to being peasants again as we will have proven ourselves to be unworthy of being anything more than that.
Cue the gaggle of retarded ACs that will either call me a literal nazi for suggesting that democracy requires freedom of speech, freedom of political thought, and freedom to express that in a politically effective way... and if they don't call me a Nazi they'll instead suggest I'm a brain washed sub human zombie because I don't do exactly what I'm told to do by our lords and masters.
People... I'm not saying you have to vote one way or the other on anything. Vote your own personal conscience. However, that very sentiment I issue there is predicated on the perpetuation of our republic. Should the republic be subverted to such an extent that the will of the people is truly meaningless... Your opinion about anything will at that point equal zero. Your feelings or interests or will or thoughts... of no value. So for the preservation of your own ability to even matter in the first place... I would ask you consider whether you should be voting for a political agenda that goes out of its way to silence any dissent. Today that opposition might be someone you disagree with... but tomorrow that might be you. And when that rolls through who will be there to save you? Because what we're seeing out of the modern DNC... is fascism. We're seeing orchestrated "brown shirt" type operations. Collisions between industry, government, law enforcement, foreign governments, the media.
I'm not saying you have to change the way you feel about any particular issue. I rather draw your attention to the character of the modern DNC... to their morality and ethics. This is who apparently many of us wish to rule the United States. "these" people.
if anyone is at all curious, my own desire is to devolve powers to the states and out of the Federal Government. Let Oregon run Oregon. Let Maine run Maine. Concentrating all that power in Washington is going to lead to an Emperor, a civil war, a grand national collapse, some combination of the above, or various other unpleasant consequences I haven't enumerated.
This is not sustainable. It has to stop. The level of corruption on display is crying out for some response... and it will come. From the top or the bottom... from without or within. This is going to end one way or another. I believe the best solution is to reduce the value of the prize so that there are fewer assholes drawn to the power. Absent that... I think we're headed for bad times. And I don't think vilifying what remains of the democracy is helping.
Get on a topic that isn't you embarrassing yourself with your stupid whines or I see no reason to continue talking to you in this thread. Next thread... have a point besides some retarded insult and zero relevant content.
There are so many admissions in there that I am right... and its really funny that you don't see in how many places you've totally given yourself away.
I'd point them out... but you're so stupid that the effort would be wasted on you. I know... and you wouldn't understand regardless.
You didn't present a factual argument. This is what you said: "" you're such an ignorant tool that you even managed to get the conservatives on slashdot to down-moderate your comment as overrated. that's on par with being a rupert murdoch follower and getting corrected on fox news. "" That isn't a factual argument, retard. Which is why you get insults from me. Because you're stupid.
There's no evidence why I was down voted. You then started ranting about how slashdot is a conservative site which isn't supportable. And then you go on to talk about fox news and Murdoch... and this you call factual?
So I note that ONE person is a bitter loser and that means I believe in conspiracies?... I mean, not only are you boring... you're really stupid. Its sort of sad.
I tried... but imagine months and months of the same retard dropping the same stupid repetitive comments in EVERY thread you comment on. He's so boring... I've tried to reach out to him... but there's nothing you can do besides make it clear he's getting zero traction.
He follows me around. Imagine if you had some anon retard comment on every post you made saying something to the effect of "f your mother"... I mean... that's basically what he does. He's frankly boring. I've tried having discussions with him... there's nothing there.
Discord is blowing up and there are a few other social networks that are exploding... so I don't know how much any of that ultimately matters. Keep in mind, the objective is not to attract as many normies as possible because if that's what you wanted... stay on twitter or something. The point is rather to leave such behind.
Fewer people? Sure... but most of the best communities on the internet are highly limited in their membership. Go full facebook with and before you know your aunt May is chiming in... and no one wants that.
The fact that I triggered you so hard you've been e-stalking me for about a year suggests I'm actually pretty good. Beyond that, it also suggests you're easily one of the more degenerate members of the community and a very solid argument against the anon tag in Slashdot. Again, what topic did I pick you up on? Just curious what triggered you?
I've not really understood the point of it in slashdot. I guess I can see the point in 4chan. But here? All it does is encourage people like you to shit up the community.
I mean, your every post to me is a long sad attempt to no platform or harass someone that expresses contrary opinions out of a community.
We? That would be you and as many fingers as you can count before you get confused?
You argue against me using the anon tag... you do that because you're trying to hide that you're just the same retard every time. Your problem is that you're very distinctive in the way you type your stupid insult laden posts. Thus your attempt to make yourself appear to be multiple people fails.
When did I pick you up out of curiosity? It would be funny to know what triggered you so hard you decided to debase yourself to this extent.
It would have to be literally free. Anyway, who needs the stupid thing... there are many alternatives and most of them are better. Let 4chan die and let the alternatives thrive.
1. You don't know who or why I was down voted. It is not a qualification. You could have done it and you probably did.
2. Slashdot is hardly conservative whatever that is supposed to be... its a tech site... so they're going to be more on the forward looking edge of society than most people.
3. As to the Conservatives liking the ACA... you're conflating the state based Romney care system with the federal based Obama care... the conservatives did not write Obama care and it only passed through congress because the democrats had a majority in both houses... and even then the democrats had to hide the bill from their own members. Aka you need to pass the bill to see what is in the bill. The bill is not popular with either political party at this point in the US. Its just a question of where to now?
Really all your post demonstrated is that you're so wildly butt hurt about getting serial spanked by me that you're going to make these frankly ego boosting fail troll attacks on me. Notice how I don't do this to anyone on slashdot? I know you know because you read every thing I post e-stalker style. Notice how all I do is respond to an article or a question... and throw in my two cents and then leave? But you. Look at yourself. And you think that by THIS behavior you're hurting me? I mean... how triggered are you by reality?
1. The US drug and medical device market is very restricted in a lot of ways which leads to drug shortages in the US or cost inflation or very long delays for drug approval. How would you resolve this situation in a manner that addresses most of the relevant concerns?
2. Its looking increasingly likely that the ACA (Obamacare) is headed for full systemic failure with whatever Washington decides to do when the inevitable happens. What do you think is the best path forward?
So you have no ability or interest in having a substantive discussion and thus any presumed intellectual superiority or integrity presumed on your part is invalid.
You just want to shit sling. Which is fine. Just know that you're seen for what you are... you were given every opportunity to be better than that... you failed.
Which argument do you want backed up? And keep in mind, I'll verify that I ever made the argument before I accept that I have to back it up. So do keep in mind when you do goal post... I'm just going to point it out and laugh at you.
Quote my initial statement please. You say I am goal post moving... but if you look at what I was saying you'll see that you cannot put me in that box. Sorry, sport.
My position was from the beginning an answer to someone as to why people would be so emotionally, ideologically, and even morally invested in a matter despite being unhorsed on so many of the core precepts.
My answer was thus a response to why a PERSON would hold a position such as that despite being proven wrong repeatedly.
We are discussing politics, psychology, morality, sociology...
if you want to have a discussion about AGW... we can do that too... but my argument was on the state of mind of people rather than on AGW or GW itself. This is quite obvious by looking at my original post.
So do you want to discuss my original point or do YOU want to goal post move or change the subject and argue something else? Because I can do that if you want... but do not presume that unwillingness to change the subject was somehow intellectual dishonesty when in fact it would YOU that is dishonest by implying my context was other than what it obviously was...
Friendo, this line of rhetoric out of you does nothing to unseat my position or grant you any kind of intellectual high ground.
More baseless insults... you really unseated my position on a complex scientific and sociological issue with your baseless insults here... I mean... wow./s
In the future, have a thought in your head before you presume to enter a discussion more complex than what mouth breathers like yourself typically discuss. Nothing you are saying here is doing anything to make you sound even remotely rational or educated or mature enough to even participate.
Well, sadly making any kind of coherent point, you don't have a coherent point. So... there you are... making baseless insults in a childish attempt to sound superior... and it just... sounds childish.
Not really the way to wound me, brother. Try harder. Or be ineffective on top of being childish. Up to you.
Ad hominem is ad hominem is ad hominem. Who said what is not material to an argument unless that person is personally relevant to the issue... and since no person will be relevant to an issue of global climate I don't really care who said what so much as what was said.
In any case... we can engage on the issue if you want. Lets go through it. What do you think I have to prove? All I'm arguing at this point is political contamination which is self evident... but I'm happy to provide evidence of such if you're really determined to question the existence of the sun in the sky.
In what way am I being an idiot if I'm saying something you agree with?
Be specific please... I rather suspect you're attempting to "frenemy" here (Friend-Enemy)... claiming you agree when you don't to gain a rhetorical advantage. Just my assumption based on the contradictions inherent in your own statement.
You say I'm preaching to the choir... okay... so you agree with me by your statement... but I'm such an idiot that you think I should be downvoted... Cite the stupid thing I said that lead you to make that statement?
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So you're a euro and are upset with Americans trying to take a different path than the Europeans and proud of their distinct traditions and philosophies?
This is why increasingly we are disinterested in subsidizing your own freedom.
Shitting on the US is not in your interest, sport. The EU is collapsing and you are weak. You have a resurgent Russia to the East, a resurgent Islamic agenda to the south east... and your population and culture are so compromised that if a real nasty shock hits you... Well, god help you because I sure as fuck won't.
You don't even know what right and left means.
Lets just have the democrats be the ruling party of the United States. They can take care of everyone for the greater good. The party leaders will determine what is in the interest of the community... We can call it "communism".
Seriously, this blacklisting of people for even daring to support anything but the democrats has grown grotesque.
And to make things sadder, we have evidence that the democrats rigged their primaries to get Hillary the nomination. Which means you're not merely a bastard for voting for something besides the democrats but you're also a bastard for voting for the democratic candidate that wasn't picked by the party bosses.
That's fucked up, gents. And if you keep buying into this shit, then the democracy is gone. We're all back to being peasants again as we will have proven ourselves to be unworthy of being anything more than that.
Cue the gaggle of retarded ACs that will either call me a literal nazi for suggesting that democracy requires freedom of speech, freedom of political thought, and freedom to express that in a politically effective way... and if they don't call me a Nazi they'll instead suggest I'm a brain washed sub human zombie because I don't do exactly what I'm told to do by our lords and masters.
People... I'm not saying you have to vote one way or the other on anything. Vote your own personal conscience. However, that very sentiment I issue there is predicated on the perpetuation of our republic. Should the republic be subverted to such an extent that the will of the people is truly meaningless... Your opinion about anything will at that point equal zero. Your feelings or interests or will or thoughts... of no value. So for the preservation of your own ability to even matter in the first place... I would ask you consider whether you should be voting for a political agenda that goes out of its way to silence any dissent. Today that opposition might be someone you disagree with... but tomorrow that might be you. And when that rolls through who will be there to save you? Because what we're seeing out of the modern DNC... is fascism. We're seeing orchestrated "brown shirt" type operations. Collisions between industry, government, law enforcement, foreign governments, the media.
I'm not saying you have to change the way you feel about any particular issue. I rather draw your attention to the character of the modern DNC... to their morality and ethics. This is who apparently many of us wish to rule the United States. "these" people.
if anyone is at all curious, my own desire is to devolve powers to the states and out of the Federal Government. Let Oregon run Oregon. Let Maine run Maine. Concentrating all that power in Washington is going to lead to an Emperor, a civil war, a grand national collapse, some combination of the above, or various other unpleasant consequences I haven't enumerated.
This is not sustainable. It has to stop. The level of corruption on display is crying out for some response... and it will come. From the top or the bottom... from without or within. This is going to end one way or another. I believe the best solution is to reduce the value of the prize so that there are fewer assholes drawn to the power. Absent that... I think we're headed for bad times. And I don't think vilifying what remains of the democracy is helping.
Get on a topic that isn't you embarrassing yourself with your stupid whines or I see no reason to continue talking to you in this thread. Next thread... have a point besides some retarded insult and zero relevant content.
There are so many admissions in there that I am right... and its really funny that you don't see in how many places you've totally given yourself away.
I'd point them out... but you're so stupid that the effort would be wasted on you. I know... and you wouldn't understand regardless.
You didn't present a factual argument. This is what you said:
""
you're such an ignorant tool that you even managed to get the conservatives on slashdot to down-moderate your comment as overrated. that's on par with being a rupert murdoch follower and getting corrected on fox news.
""
That isn't a factual argument, retard. Which is why you get insults from me. Because you're stupid.
There's no evidence why I was down voted. You then started ranting about how slashdot is a conservative site which isn't supportable. And then you go on to talk about fox news and Murdoch... and this you call factual?
You're a moron. :laughs:
So I note that ONE person is a bitter loser and that means I believe in conspiracies?... I mean, not only are you boring... you're really stupid. Its sort of sad.
When you do nothing but play dumb the net result is that you're behaving like an idiot.
Just saying... if you don't ever cut to clever you never leave dumb. :wink:
I tried... but imagine months and months of the same retard dropping the same stupid repetitive comments in EVERY thread you comment on. He's so boring... I've tried to reach out to him... but there's nothing you can do besides make it clear he's getting zero traction.
He follows me around. Imagine if you had some anon retard comment on every post you made saying something to the effect of "f your mother"... I mean... that's basically what he does. He's frankly boring. I've tried having discussions with him... there's nothing there.
Discord is blowing up and there are a few other social networks that are exploding... so I don't know how much any of that ultimately matters. Keep in mind, the objective is not to attract as many normies as possible because if that's what you wanted... stay on twitter or something. The point is rather to leave such behind.
Fewer people? Sure... but most of the best communities on the internet are highly limited in their membership. Go full facebook with and before you know your aunt May is chiming in... and no one wants that.
The fact that I triggered you so hard you've been e-stalking me for about a year suggests I'm actually pretty good. Beyond that, it also suggests you're easily one of the more degenerate members of the community and a very solid argument against the anon tag in Slashdot. Again, what topic did I pick you up on? Just curious what triggered you?
I've not really understood the point of it in slashdot. I guess I can see the point in 4chan. But here? All it does is encourage people like you to shit up the community.
I mean, your every post to me is a long sad attempt to no platform or harass someone that expresses contrary opinions out of a community.
You're internet garbage. :wink:
We? That would be you and as many fingers as you can count before you get confused?
You argue against me using the anon tag... you do that because you're trying to hide that you're just the same retard every time. Your problem is that you're very distinctive in the way you type your stupid insult laden posts. Thus your attempt to make yourself appear to be multiple people fails.
When did I pick you up out of curiosity? It would be funny to know what triggered you so hard you decided to debase yourself to this extent.
It would have to be literally free. Anyway, who needs the stupid thing... there are many alternatives and most of them are better. Let 4chan die and let the alternatives thrive.
So ... the answer to my question is "yes". Knew it.
So, you're one of those sad basement dwelling Bernie voters that Hillary was talking about... aren't you?
Admit it.
1. You don't know who or why I was down voted. It is not a qualification. You could have done it and you probably did.
2. Slashdot is hardly conservative whatever that is supposed to be... its a tech site... so they're going to be more on the forward looking edge of society than most people.
3. As to the Conservatives liking the ACA... you're conflating the state based Romney care system with the federal based Obama care... the conservatives did not write Obama care and it only passed through congress because the democrats had a majority in both houses... and even then the democrats had to hide the bill from their own members. Aka you need to pass the bill to see what is in the bill. The bill is not popular with either political party at this point in the US. Its just a question of where to now?
Really all your post demonstrated is that you're so wildly butt hurt about getting serial spanked by me that you're going to make these frankly ego boosting fail troll attacks on me. Notice how I don't do this to anyone on slashdot? I know you know because you read every thing I post e-stalker style. Notice how all I do is respond to an article or a question... and throw in my two cents and then leave? But you. Look at yourself. And you think that by THIS behavior you're hurting me? I mean... how triggered are you by reality?
1.
The US drug and medical device market is very restricted in a lot of ways which leads to drug shortages in the US or cost inflation or very long delays for drug approval. How would you resolve this situation in a manner that addresses most of the relevant concerns?
2.
Its looking increasingly likely that the ACA (Obamacare) is headed for full systemic failure with whatever Washington decides to do when the inevitable happens. What do you think is the best path forward?
So you have no ability or interest in having a substantive discussion and thus any presumed intellectual superiority or integrity presumed on your part is invalid.
You just want to shit sling. Which is fine. Just know that you're seen for what you are... you were given every opportunity to be better than that... you failed.
Which argument do you want backed up? And keep in mind, I'll verify that I ever made the argument before I accept that I have to back it up. So do keep in mind when you do goal post... I'm just going to point it out and laugh at you.
Quote my initial statement please. You say I am goal post moving... but if you look at what I was saying you'll see that you cannot put me in that box. Sorry, sport.
My position was from the beginning an answer to someone as to why people would be so emotionally, ideologically, and even morally invested in a matter despite being unhorsed on so many of the core precepts.
My answer was thus a response to why a PERSON would hold a position such as that despite being proven wrong repeatedly.
We are discussing politics, psychology, morality, sociology...
if you want to have a discussion about AGW... we can do that too... but my argument was on the state of mind of people rather than on AGW or GW itself. This is quite obvious by looking at my original post.
So do you want to discuss my original point or do YOU want to goal post move or change the subject and argue something else? Because I can do that if you want... but do not presume that unwillingness to change the subject was somehow intellectual dishonesty when in fact it would YOU that is dishonest by implying my context was other than what it obviously was...
Friendo, this line of rhetoric out of you does nothing to unseat my position or grant you any kind of intellectual high ground.
More baseless insults... you really unseated my position on a complex scientific and sociological issue with your baseless insults here... I mean... wow. /s
In the future, have a thought in your head before you presume to enter a discussion more complex than what mouth breathers like yourself typically discuss. Nothing you are saying here is doing anything to make you sound even remotely rational or educated or mature enough to even participate.
Well, sadly making any kind of coherent point, you don't have a coherent point. So... there you are... making baseless insults in a childish attempt to sound superior... and it just... sounds childish.
Not really the way to wound me, brother. Try harder. Or be ineffective on top of being childish. Up to you.
Ad hominem is ad hominem is ad hominem. Who said what is not material to an argument unless that person is personally relevant to the issue... and since no person will be relevant to an issue of global climate I don't really care who said what so much as what was said.
In any case... we can engage on the issue if you want. Lets go through it. What do you think I have to prove? All I'm arguing at this point is political contamination which is self evident... but I'm happy to provide evidence of such if you're really determined to question the existence of the sun in the sky.
In what way am I being an idiot if I'm saying something you agree with?
Be specific please... I rather suspect you're attempting to "frenemy" here (Friend-Enemy)... claiming you agree when you don't to gain a rhetorical advantage. Just my assumption based on the contradictions inherent in your own statement.
You say I'm preaching to the choir... okay... so you agree with me by your statement... but I'm such an idiot that you think I should be downvoted... Cite the stupid thing I said that lead you to make that statement?