THIS. The issue is that Dell and Co could make it cheaper, they just don't because it's the latest and greatest and they want to do what Intel does with pricing without remembering that Intel actually HAS R+D to pay.
A touchscreen kit costs around £90 now. It doesn't have to be hi-dot res, new or even capacative. It can be old resist tech with software to add, it's been done before. With dell manufacturing it in bulk it wouldn't cost more than $40 a unit, likely not much more than they would pay for it direct from current manufacturers of touch interfaces. That's £40 more than the Win8 non-touch laptops out there, and very easy to sell. They just don't actually WANT to sell a cheap Win8 laptop.
That can happen, but only when you truly believe that the cause of the threat is external to the people you are helping AND/OR that you lose nothing important by helping them.
Take the third point. If people were relying on that food for the next few weeks and are all of a sudden told they cannot buy it, they may be inclined to attempt to leave with those goods anyway, probably resulting an a scuffle. Multiply that by the tens or hundreds of people that would pass through Wal-Mart and don't really carry paper money and you have a riot in the making.
It's human nature, and if someone's trying to light a proverbial spark, they're well aware of human nature.
Read my bank statement and you will get a precise idea of my weekly routine, where I eat in the morning, where I am in the afternoon for lunch, if I bought for myself or for two, whether I was busy at work in the afternoon or not and if not where I went. How I spent my evening, even the time I left for home if I caught a taxi. Every DC/CC purchase is a snapshot of your current location and your purchase itself give vital details about you when lined up next to all your other purchases. Don't underestimate the value of that information to an identity thief, fraudster or several other types of more violent criminal.
In the UK 90% of smaller corner shops charge 50p/£1 for any purchase made on a card, debit or credit.. but only if they actually take credit/debit card in the first place. Lots of places actually charge as there is a slight liability with credit cards due to creative scammers being able to call the bank and make up a convincing reason to reverse the charge after the charge has actually been taken from the card.
It's very easy to make the robots unable to replicate. Deprive them of the raw material to do so (you have unlimited robot foot-soldiers after all), or build in self-destruct systems/disablers/DRM, or just intimidate the rest of the populace with overwhelming force to the point where they wouldn't dare try (like governments do to each other every day).
Whilst I hear what you are saying, what I am suggesting is not that we would be pushed to the brink of starvation etc, but the standard of living would rise for everyone, but far more for them than us. Who knows, maybe the new welfare system could end up being a single crappy robot to go and scavenge for you all day, and robots will become the new equivalent of historical livestock for everyone else. I'm not suggesting wage slaves need to stay, I'm suggesting that *initially* the outbreak of machines is going to seriously hurt the common+lower class man and seriously benefit the corporation. Such is the nature of a slow government and smart, profit seeking minds.
The huge fact that all other respondents forget is that the world was a much bigger place in those times and slaves were a perishable resource that could only be 'manufactured' (from a free man) in a certain location that was largely inaccessible without large funds. There was also hugely limiting legislation that prohibited slavery in Britain itself at a time where Britain was the mercantile center of the world.
If robots were manufactured today. Labour could be offset by using robots to make robots (much like what was done in slavery but without the threat of escape) but it would either be exorbitant to buy/lease, or wealthy interests would buy out the entire stock for the first few years (even if it was far more than they needed as it would be a prudent defensive move to restrict competitors from buying and every robot could be utilized to do *something*, even if it was walking down the road with a picket with a company logo). Finally if both could not be achieved, they would legislate a 'robot license' for some wild fringe reason (potential hacking or somesuch). Either way, the richest would get them first and get more, and would inevitably try to leverage that headstart to make sure they kept their lead over you. Thus changing nothing and due to the way leverage operates, making you poorer.
Obedient but intelligent robots are just a force multiplier. Unfortunately, you can't end up richer than someone that has more momentum as you if you both gain the same force multipliers.
Moore's law is gonna bite you in the backside hard.
10 years ago we were far from having centralised music stores or cameras on our phones, let alone being able to distribute them across the planet at the touch of a button.
20 years ago we were far from having x86 computers with a wealth of exchangeable parts that could be acquired, repaired, replaced and serviced anywhere in the world by kids let alone a freely accessible network of computeres that formed an archive that contained the sum of human knowledge and could be accessed by a kid.
30 years ago computers were for IBM. You rented one. Windows didn't exist.
40 years ago post-it-notes, gene splicing and ethernet didn't exist.
The entire history of silicon, screen and keyboard computing (to me) isn't any older than that. If it took only 40 years for computers to take over the world and I can reasonably guess that the number of computers since then increase exponentially, is it really wrong to assume that over the next 40 years we won't create a machine with AI?
The fact is computers and thus robots will get smarter and smarter until they are self aware enough to make themselves smarter. Fact. Moores law dictates that this will happen sooner rather than later. Somewhere on the way toward Technological Singularity we will hit self improving/aware robots, long before that AI, long before that computers will be able to do intelligent tasks and replace us in the workplace, long before that computers will have such an understanding of genetics and clone growth that they will be able to synthesize a human being all by themselves. If there was financial need we'd already have that, its just really taking a GUI frontend, the robotics we would use to mass produce on a micro scale (think of the tools used in sillicon/pharmaceuticals manufacture) and refine the existing life support systems we have for premature babies (or take a human womb/host and put them on life support, nobody said we had to be humane)... apply the test tube baby methodology to do the rest.
If you are making an app that lets you login to accounts then the simple act of programming a failed login prompt would require you to attempt to login with bad credential in a variety of different ways (for your own 'vulnerability testing') if all of a sudden you're logging in with bad details then you have completely accidentally broken in. It's like trying a security door with a blank card and finding it opens, except a program will automatically walk in, and stand inside with the jewels packed neatly on it's back before asking you what you want to do next. It's not your fault that the security door was defective, and it's a program's job to assume that if you have access it's YOUR data and you want to see it. The programmer is not to blame for this, if the College were not prepared for something like this, he should never have had permission to use the database.
Okay, please explain how you paid your college fees and bought a house and how long it took you, it's all well and good gloating, but if you started in the same place that the poster your responded to did, I sincerely doubt you could have a afforded to drop tens of thousands into both a home and college off your own back, nor had the credit rating to do so on a private loan that you wouldn't be able to comfortably pay for the duration of your tuition.
Personally, I believe you are either one of the self entitled silver spooners that have already been mentioned or your parents take a serious amount of credit for the way your life has gone so far by assisting with your financing/credit. If the latter is the case, you should be complimenting them instead of cruelly gloating at the poster that had no such luxury.
I say this as a student in a country that has a student loan program that is completely interest free, but still has to struggle to get the needed equipment to study. I don't actually see how you could have saved up the money needed for a college degree with a basic job. If you found it so easy, share the specifics so you're post is actually a little more constructive than "Ha ha, you fail at life br0!".
It might be worth trying WINE. It would run far FAR faster than a VM and not require an image etc. Also becasue it's running natively it will have superior performance.
Grab it here, make a bottle (which is a compartmentalized windows environment composed of clean-room reverse engineered windows libraries modified to translate everything Windows into OSX system calls. What's important to know is you decide here what version of windows you want your Mac to be seen as.) Then you simply double click any EXE in finder at any time and up pops up the program like it was Windows.
It would only be a strawman if it was a response proposed as an argument.
It's not, it's an invitation for thought on what it is that actually really irks us about Window 8. Aside from the fairly stupid 'remove everything and throw away 2 years of work and millions of dollars of R&D' that it seems everyone wants MSFT to do, what would be the simplest way to 'fix' Metro in the eyes of the parent poster?
1. I am referring to applications in Sys32 that are part of Windows to start with and there on a fresh install. Resource toolkit progs etc don't count as they are not listed in global variables.
2. Windows search reads from those same keys as Run, due to the fact that (by default) Run was removed from the start menu somewhere between XP and 7 and you typed run programs into the search bar instead. The difference is that even if windows search has hits, it will ignore all of them and just display the App Path from the registry entries if it has even one App Path hit.
calc ALWAYS resolves as Calculator, just as cmd ALWAYS resolves as Command Prompt. It's hardwired into Windows to prioritize applications in the System32 folder. If you have some sort of system malfunction that changes this, press Win+R and bring up a Run prompt then type calc.
Exactly how I felt. I really don't understand why there is so much fuming and vitriol over a completely easy to ignore paradigm. Sure the App Store needs to die (due to the T&Cs), but I actually have much much more pressing issues than the replacement of my start menu with something shiny but almost never preferable to the good old desktop.
Written from a laptop running Windows 8 btw. Call me weird, but I like Metro for certain tasks like reading the news in the morning, checking the stock market, ebay and mail/facebook. It's a lot less clunky than the traditional browser approach and made buying a separate tablet completely pointless for me. I'm not about to give up my Android phone, because quite frankly the Apps aren't nearly numerous enough, but it is getting there.
So just uninstall everything RT based on your image deployment. All of a sudden it doesn't matter if it starts in Metro because all that will show up on the Metro Start screen will be the Desktop button, the App Store (which can be GPO'd out) and shortcuts to the productivity applications (that run on the desktop anyway). In effect it becomes an extension of the login window that asks you what you want to run first today.
God, why does everyone whine about such simple things?
It is natural. We may genetically evolve once every several generations (far less with the addition of welfare states and lack of predator pressure), but evolution is just adapting to evade a danger or gain an effective advantage over our peers. In this case it's the danger of imprisonment and the advantage of social stimulus through software, porn and movies.
Society teaches us that that is bad, but we've taken things without personally giving adequate compensation for aeons. You think we were replanting seeds when we discovered dry wood would make fire? Hell we still often don't now.
The Tegra GPU eats the S4 GPU. Don't make uninformed claims. The difference is that the Tegra, like it's predecessor, needs GPU code to turn it on because it's such a massive generator of heat that all cores except one are disabled during normal use (it has 16 Unified Shaded cores iirc). No benchmark has currently paid Nvidia the fees to get the Nvidia SDK to make a Tegra benchmark so far. I doubt it's cheap.
The Clothing industry. Please name me 5 inventions in the last 10 years that aren't just branding. Name me 10 technologies that actually keep you warmer or cooler and have changed or revolutionized the industry the way it does in the technological industries. There are none, because companies that Apple look up to run the industry, releasing incremental updates to their product lines that are nothing more than rearrangements of their previous products to support a loyal fan following and media army.
You think that Adidas, Gucci, Nike and Prada will ever create something that is so good that it can save a guy trapped in the Arctic Circle from pneumonia? No. You think they would ever license it if someone else did? No. Why? Because fashion is more profitable, requires less effort and can be recycled endlessly without changing anything but the colors involved. The only decisive patent/copyright in that industry is the actual logo, and look what billion dollar empires they have built with that with that.
You think that anyone will drop the amount of billions into Pharmaceuticals as the industry now does if they couldn't block others from doing it? No-one aside the governments of the world would. They would all just sit there, waiting for products to copy, then when it comes out change it's color or bevel the edges of its bottles and call it 'innovation'.
A MicroUSB 2.0 port is cheaper than a Lightning port, if only slightly. Remember Apple don't have to pay their own licensing fees but probably will (knowing them they can make it tax deductable).
Copy the letter, and resend it but with a more recent dating if the next invoice isn't on time, citing the fact that this happened before as the reason for the short amount of time allowance you've given them.
The pirates are *willfully* violating the law - they are members of the Pirate Party.
You are definitely trolling. So, by your analysis, all members of The Pirate Party are pirates.
Now, I wouldn't be surprised if they were sailors, but calling them pirates... that's a bit harsh isn't it, especially without evidence!
So I'm guessing by your account, Google, The Conservatives, and everyone else getting away with fraud are 'Privateers' and I am a pirate because I support free speech without an authorised license?
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THIS. The issue is that Dell and Co could make it cheaper, they just don't because it's the latest and greatest and they want to do what Intel does with pricing without remembering that Intel actually HAS R+D to pay.
A touchscreen kit costs around £90 now. It doesn't have to be hi-dot res, new or even capacative. It can be old resist tech with software to add, it's been done before. With dell manufacturing it in bulk it wouldn't cost more than $40 a unit, likely not much more than they would pay for it direct from current manufacturers of touch interfaces. That's £40 more than the Win8 non-touch laptops out there, and very easy to sell. They just don't actually WANT to sell a cheap Win8 laptop.
That can happen, but only when you truly believe that the cause of the threat is external to the people you are helping AND/OR that you lose nothing important by helping them.
Take the third point. If people were relying on that food for the next few weeks and are all of a sudden told they cannot buy it, they may be inclined to attempt to leave with those goods anyway, probably resulting an a scuffle. Multiply that by the tens or hundreds of people that would pass through Wal-Mart and don't really carry paper money and you have a riot in the making.
It's human nature, and if someone's trying to light a proverbial spark, they're well aware of human nature.
Read my bank statement and you will get a precise idea of my weekly routine, where I eat in the morning, where I am in the afternoon for lunch, if I bought for myself or for two, whether I was busy at work in the afternoon or not and if not where I went. How I spent my evening, even the time I left for home if I caught a taxi. Every DC/CC purchase is a snapshot of your current location and your purchase itself give vital details about you when lined up next to all your other purchases. Don't underestimate the value of that information to an identity thief, fraudster or several other types of more violent criminal.
In the UK 90% of smaller corner shops charge 50p/£1 for any purchase made on a card, debit or credit.. but only if they actually take credit/debit card in the first place. Lots of places actually charge as there is a slight liability with credit cards due to creative scammers being able to call the bank and make up a convincing reason to reverse the charge after the charge has actually been taken from the card.
It's very easy to make the robots unable to replicate. Deprive them of the raw material to do so (you have unlimited robot foot-soldiers after all), or build in self-destruct systems/disablers/DRM, or just intimidate the rest of the populace with overwhelming force to the point where they wouldn't dare try (like governments do to each other every day).
Whilst I hear what you are saying, what I am suggesting is not that we would be pushed to the brink of starvation etc, but the standard of living would rise for everyone, but far more for them than us. Who knows, maybe the new welfare system could end up being a single crappy robot to go and scavenge for you all day, and robots will become the new equivalent of historical livestock for everyone else. I'm not suggesting wage slaves need to stay, I'm suggesting that *initially* the outbreak of machines is going to seriously hurt the common+lower class man and seriously benefit the corporation. Such is the nature of a slow government and smart, profit seeking minds.
The huge fact that all other respondents forget is that the world was a much bigger place in those times and slaves were a perishable resource that could only be 'manufactured' (from a free man) in a certain location that was largely inaccessible without large funds. There was also hugely limiting legislation that prohibited slavery in Britain itself at a time where Britain was the mercantile center of the world.
If robots were manufactured today. Labour could be offset by using robots to make robots (much like what was done in slavery but without the threat of escape) but it would either be exorbitant to buy/lease, or wealthy interests would buy out the entire stock for the first few years (even if it was far more than they needed as it would be a prudent defensive move to restrict competitors from buying and every robot could be utilized to do *something*, even if it was walking down the road with a picket with a company logo). Finally if both could not be achieved, they would legislate a 'robot license' for some wild fringe reason (potential hacking or somesuch). Either way, the richest would get them first and get more, and would inevitably try to leverage that headstart to make sure they kept their lead over you. Thus changing nothing and due to the way leverage operates, making you poorer.
Obedient but intelligent robots are just a force multiplier. Unfortunately, you can't end up richer than someone that has more momentum as you if you both gain the same force multipliers.
Moore's law is gonna bite you in the backside hard.
10 years ago we were far from having centralised music stores or cameras on our phones, let alone being able to distribute them across the planet at the touch of a button.
20 years ago we were far from having x86 computers with a wealth of exchangeable parts that could be acquired, repaired, replaced and serviced anywhere in the world by kids let alone a freely accessible network of computeres that formed an archive that contained the sum of human knowledge and could be accessed by a kid.
30 years ago computers were for IBM. You rented one. Windows didn't exist.
40 years ago post-it-notes, gene splicing and ethernet didn't exist.
The entire history of silicon, screen and keyboard computing (to me) isn't any older than that. If it took only 40 years for computers to take over the world and I can reasonably guess that the number of computers since then increase exponentially, is it really wrong to assume that over the next 40 years we won't create a machine with AI?
The fact is computers and thus robots will get smarter and smarter until they are self aware enough to make themselves smarter. Fact. Moores law dictates that this will happen sooner rather than later. Somewhere on the way toward Technological Singularity we will hit self improving/aware robots, long before that AI, long before that computers will be able to do intelligent tasks and replace us in the workplace, long before that computers will have such an understanding of genetics and clone growth that they will be able to synthesize a human being all by themselves. If there was financial need we'd already have that, its just really taking a GUI frontend, the robotics we would use to mass produce on a micro scale (think of the tools used in sillicon/pharmaceuticals manufacture) and refine the existing life support systems we have for premature babies (or take a human womb/host and put them on life support, nobody said we had to be humane)... apply the test tube baby methodology to do the rest.
If you are making an app that lets you login to accounts then the simple act of programming a failed login prompt would require you to attempt to login with bad credential in a variety of different ways (for your own 'vulnerability testing') if all of a sudden you're logging in with bad details then you have completely accidentally broken in. It's like trying a security door with a blank card and finding it opens, except a program will automatically walk in, and stand inside with the jewels packed neatly on it's back before asking you what you want to do next. It's not your fault that the security door was defective, and it's a program's job to assume that if you have access it's YOUR data and you want to see it. The programmer is not to blame for this, if the College were not prepared for something like this, he should never have had permission to use the database.
Okay, please explain how you paid your college fees and bought a house and how long it took you, it's all well and good gloating, but if you started in the same place that the poster your responded to did, I sincerely doubt you could have a afforded to drop tens of thousands into both a home and college off your own back, nor had the credit rating to do so on a private loan that you wouldn't be able to comfortably pay for the duration of your tuition.
Personally, I believe you are either one of the self entitled silver spooners that have already been mentioned or your parents take a serious amount of credit for the way your life has gone so far by assisting with your financing/credit. If the latter is the case, you should be complimenting them instead of cruelly gloating at the poster that had no such luxury.
I say this as a student in a country that has a student loan program that is completely interest free, but still has to struggle to get the needed equipment to study. I don't actually see how you could have saved up the money needed for a college degree with a basic job. If you found it so easy, share the specifics so you're post is actually a little more constructive than "Ha ha, you fail at life br0!".
It might be worth trying WINE. It would run far FAR faster than a VM and not require an image etc. Also becasue it's running natively it will have superior performance.
Grab it here, make a bottle (which is a compartmentalized windows environment composed of clean-room reverse engineered windows libraries modified to translate everything Windows into OSX system calls. What's important to know is you decide here what version of windows you want your Mac to be seen as.) Then you simply double click any EXE in finder at any time and up pops up the program like it was Windows.
Yeah but guesswhat, it was dispersed and now it's sitting in the soil filtering into the plants that your game eats.
It would only be a strawman if it was a response proposed as an argument.
It's not, it's an invitation for thought on what it is that actually really irks us about Window 8. Aside from the fairly stupid 'remove everything and throw away 2 years of work and millions of dollars of R&D' that it seems everyone wants MSFT to do, what would be the simplest way to 'fix' Metro in the eyes of the parent poster?
Both examples you give are flawed in ways.
1. I am referring to applications in Sys32 that are part of Windows to start with and there on a fresh install. Resource toolkit progs etc don't count as they are not listed in global variables.
2. Windows search reads from those same keys as Run, due to the fact that (by default) Run was removed from the start menu somewhere between XP and 7 and you typed run programs into the search bar instead. The difference is that even if windows search has hits, it will ignore all of them and just display the App Path from the registry entries if it has even one App Path hit.
calc ALWAYS resolves as Calculator, just as cmd ALWAYS resolves as Command Prompt. It's hardwired into Windows to prioritize applications in the System32 folder. If you have some sort of system malfunction that changes this, press Win+R and bring up a Run prompt then type calc.
You both seem to have missed the part where he said you can skip this on install so I shall repeat it a a volume you can hear.
YOU CAN SKIP CREATING A WINDOWS ONLINE ACCOUNT DURING SETUP.
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So if you could run each Modern App in a window on your desktop Win8 would be a winner?
Exactly how I felt. I really don't understand why there is so much fuming and vitriol over a completely easy to ignore paradigm. Sure the App Store needs to die (due to the T&Cs), but I actually have much much more pressing issues than the replacement of my start menu with something shiny but almost never preferable to the good old desktop.
Written from a laptop running Windows 8 btw. Call me weird, but I like Metro for certain tasks like reading the news in the morning, checking the stock market, ebay and mail/facebook. It's a lot less clunky than the traditional browser approach and made buying a separate tablet completely pointless for me. I'm not about to give up my Android phone, because quite frankly the Apps aren't nearly numerous enough, but it is getting there.
So just uninstall everything RT based on your image deployment. All of a sudden it doesn't matter if it starts in Metro because all that will show up on the Metro Start screen will be the Desktop button, the App Store (which can be GPO'd out) and shortcuts to the productivity applications (that run on the desktop anyway). In effect it becomes an extension of the login window that asks you what you want to run first today.
God, why does everyone whine about such simple things?
It is natural. We may genetically evolve once every several generations (far less with the addition of welfare states and lack of predator pressure), but evolution is just adapting to evade a danger or gain an effective advantage over our peers. In this case it's the danger of imprisonment and the advantage of social stimulus through software, porn and movies.
Society teaches us that that is bad, but we've taken things without personally giving adequate compensation for aeons. You think we were replanting seeds when we discovered dry wood would make fire? Hell we still often don't now.
The Tegra GPU eats the S4 GPU. Don't make uninformed claims. The difference is that the Tegra, like it's predecessor, needs GPU code to turn it on because it's such a massive generator of heat that all cores except one are disabled during normal use (it has 16 Unified Shaded cores iirc). No benchmark has currently paid Nvidia the fees to get the Nvidia SDK to make a Tegra benchmark so far. I doubt it's cheap.
Now go find a Tegra HD game and gawp.
The Clothing industry. Please name me 5 inventions in the last 10 years that aren't just branding. Name me 10 technologies that actually keep you warmer or cooler and have changed or revolutionized the industry the way it does in the technological industries. There are none, because companies that Apple look up to run the industry, releasing incremental updates to their product lines that are nothing more than rearrangements of their previous products to support a loyal fan following and media army.
You think that Adidas, Gucci, Nike and Prada will ever create something that is so good that it can save a guy trapped in the Arctic Circle from pneumonia? No. You think they would ever license it if someone else did? No. Why? Because fashion is more profitable, requires less effort and can be recycled endlessly without changing anything but the colors involved. The only decisive patent/copyright in that industry is the actual logo, and look what billion dollar empires they have built with that with that.
You think that anyone will drop the amount of billions into Pharmaceuticals as the industry now does if they couldn't block others from doing it? No-one aside the governments of the world would. They would all just sit there, waiting for products to copy, then when it comes out change it's color or bevel the edges of its bottles and call it 'innovation'.
And even then, I doubt it's more than 10% of the cost of a Lightning license.
A MicroUSB 2.0 port is cheaper than a Lightning port, if only slightly. Remember Apple don't have to pay their own licensing fees but probably will (knowing them they can make it tax deductable).
Copy the letter, and resend it but with a more recent dating if the next invoice isn't on time, citing the fact that this happened before as the reason for the short amount of time allowance you've given them.
The pirates are *willfully* violating the law - they are members of the Pirate Party.
You are definitely trolling. So, by your analysis, all members of The Pirate Party are pirates.
Now, I wouldn't be surprised if they were sailors, but calling them pirates... that's a bit harsh isn't it, especially without evidence!
So I'm guessing by your account, Google, The Conservatives, and everyone else getting away with fraud are 'Privateers' and I am a pirate because I support free speech without an authorised license?
Course I'm not... Arr, me' hearties!