Wikipedia Admins I'd wager seldom create much content (articles, sure...the sum of their creation is likely found in summarizing the world in wikipedia articles).
They like the control and power. They are just like the kids who run around and kick down the sand castles of other kids. Destroying hours of work. Why? Because they can...and because they can't build sand castles.
You have no idea...that's the problem everyone keeps trying to tell the moronic admins at Wikipedia. One of these long-running web comics may hit it big. Or perhaps it doesn't but a later comic by said artist becomes the next "Peanuts" or "Garfield" and that deleted web comic in 50 yrs is known as said famous artists first work.
But sadly, there is not much known about it because it was deleted and few archives of info related to it were kept. It was deleted in the great internet data purge of 2028. When the United Nations required all sites to chime in that they were current or they'd be pushed off the web.
"Why does mankind always assume it is intelligent and all knowing?"
You don't understand the issue. The web comic situation is a long-running conflict. You see, dozens of web comics. Some of which have been running for 1/2 a decade now. And met every single stated criteria for Wikipedia's section were deleted.
The reason given was because x or y comic wasn't in the top 1,000 sites on a particular listing site that heck, I hadn't even heard of. That said, they later changed the criteria a bit.
But even comics that have won awards, or been long-running comics. Have been cut. Furthermore, their are "niche" comics. For example a comic that caters to the gothic scene (already a much smaller sliver of society) is not going to have as broad a read base as say "Peanuts". It's like not listing Ferrari & Lamborghini under automobile manufacturers because they don't manufacture a minimum of 1,000,000 vehicles are year. That's just stupid.
I. Wikipedia could be the end-all be-all of human information. The global archive of all of man's art and knowledge. Instead, it is very discriminatory often deleting articles because someone finds them of no significance. (Mind you most of our famous artists and authors were considered of no significance until after their deaths.)
II. Other people's work and effort is repeatedly destroyed. We're not talking about controversy of hot political issues. We're talking about simple non-controversial articles. Someone will spend hours editing an article only to come back and find that it's deleted some weeks later. (This is why I do not do much with Wikipedia other than use it for more common topics. Why would I want to contribute to something if all my effort is going to be repeatedly deleted. My time is too !@#$% precious for such crud. All because of some petty idiot.)
III. Because of the above reasons, many of us do not contribute much to Wikipedia. So when an issue comes up and we voice our opinions we are quickly dismissed for not being a contributor and our votes are discounted. (Even if we write a large explanation of our feelings to include with our vote.) It begins to feel like some "cartel" or "clique" and if you aren't a member then you can't play.
It's a shame...and this is truly a bigger concern than the political articles being hacked IMHO. As this is a failing in the present philosophy of Wikipedia.
This has been a long-standing issue, essentially, the criteria was changed. But web comics that have been published on line for years were cleared out.
I believe there should be NO PROXIES for domain name info. I think having such feeds into SPAMMERS. I'd rather be able to go to a WHOIS and find out who the heck is SPAMMING me and get them to stop. (I've done this on a couple of occasions.)
Daniel 7:25 "And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time."
Bro...it's the Beast, changing the times and all...;)
Prevent retail stores from re-selling returned products as new. This happens all the time. I am sure that at least a number of items I've bought from Circuit City and/or Best Buy were returns. I've kept them 1/2 the time as they worked, and were at good prices. But I've begun to suspect that many of these 60% priced items are undeclared return sales items.
I almost believe that there might need to be a national registry of returned items for any goods over $100. You could go look up your serial number and see if it was registered as a return. Failure to register a return would result in a criminal act. And if the item is resold would incur even stiffer penalties. In fact, reselling an return undeclared would be considered theft. If the product was over $1,000 could result in Grand Larceny charges.
My mom bought a refrigerator and purchased the extended warranty. It doesn't work well - it won't balance the freezer and the fridge. So either you have liquid ice cream OR your all the stuff in your fridge is frozen solid.
They literally refused to honor their warranty. The company sent a repair person who said it was on spec. Actually, what he basically said is this was a poor design that doesn't work well. And this is not uncommon for this model. So since it's not uncommon for this model they wouldn't fix it.
Go figure...that's like saying since it's not uncommon for the breaks to fail on this model car. So we're not going to fix it under warranty because this is pretty much a standard occurrence with this car.
***
All of this being BS as my mother's upstairs tenants have the same fridge and it doesn't have any problems.
The drop in crime is actually due to LEGOS; the wonderful mental stimulating plastic brick toys which were launched in their plastic form in 1963. Yes, that is 10 yrs before the noted 1973 statistical start time. However, it took approx. 10 yrs for said toy to fully populate the American market.
Thus, the statistical analysis clearly proves that LEGOS are directly responsible for the current drop in crime.
And why would this be? Because LEGO itself is derived from the term "Play Well". The millions of kids that grow up playing with LEGOS just seem to continue to "play well" even into adulthood.
See, I thankfully avoid opening up exe files of that sort. I guess it's one of the reasons I haven't fallen prey to virus'. Really the only one's I've encountered in recent years has been virus' in Word docs.
Anyways, that said...the particular software I need to install is:
RAIDar which is the utility/access software for Infrant/Netgear ReadyNAS servers.
Being proprietary software would be the reason it's not in a repository. I know I can google and find out how to install. And I'll do so once I'm home and have some free time. But it would be nice to see Linux improve this area, at least IMHO.:)
Okay, then how about for just Ubuntu as I understand it, Ubuntu's goal is to essentially bring computing to the masses. (And pretty much the distribution that basically everyone I've talked to has recommended for people interested in getting started with Linux.);-)
RAIDar is the software for accessing a Infrant/Netgear ReadyNAS server. As such is probably proprietary and therefore probably not included with Ubuntu.
I have the RAIDar for Linux software on a CD (it includes a couple package format, including Debian which as I understood are the one's compatible with Ubuntu). I had hoped that I could just click a file and have it install. Or right click and run a install script (akin to an.inf file). But neither option availed.
I am sure I can eventually manage it, I've just found myself so busy the past few weeks that I've not had an evening to sit down and figure out "how do I install a file".
Where as with Windows it's a simple matter of finding a setup.exe file or sometimes right-clicking an.inf file. Even with my recent switch to OS X at work, though I confess installation was rather different. I was able to intuitively figure out how to do so fairly easily.
So I think this is an area that Linux could greatly improve.:)
One of the big arguments that is given for paid versus open-source software is support. There are a lot of companies that offer enterprise support for Linux. And there is a lot of information scattered about on forums. But often this can be a bit cryptic for the newbie to Linux. Furthermore, such posts often assume additional knowledge. One can easily find oneself looking up a chain of topics just to get something simple working.
Perhaps what is needed is "Open Source Support". A website who's focus is to help the newbie to Linux on the consumer end. The site would have volunteers helping via IM chat, email, and perhaps VoIP. Said site would only support the most basic of activities (ie: setting up basic configurations such as mouse, video, printer, basic networking, etc. Basic software installation. Etc).
The support agents would be volunteers. The website would provide email alias & accounts. And even an option to "tip" your support representative via "Paypal" or perhaps other means. The site would avoid any more complex issues (ie: setting up your own web server, etc). Not saying a support contact might not help someone. But any such request could be politely declined.
It'd be an interesting idea. Not sure if it could be pulled off, but if it could I think such a site would do wonders for helping people migrate to Linux. (Which would then entail much more support on the corporate end for drivers, development and enterprise activities.)
This has made me think that there is a another thing that Linux should do next. I almost think that Linux should consider a "free consumer support" site for beginners to Linux.
"After the first time, you should have went out of your way to pick hardware that is known to work on Linux, rather than just buying whatever and getting Linux to work on it."
See, then it's not free. This was a laptop that I picked up for my wife for $350. To do that I'd be spending several hundred dollars or more. Secondly, it's near impossible to get details of the specific hardware before purchase. In fact, many of my model had a different wifi card that was highly recommended by Linux users.
"Ubuntu's installer is simple- you click a checkbox to pick what you want, then click "apply" and it'll install. You don't have to use "sudo apt-get install"."
I tried using the installer to install the RAIDar software and it didn't seem to know what to do with either of the three Linux packages on the disk.
I intend to revisit it, and I am sure I can get it installed...but trying to get the free time means a week or two wait.
***********
Anyways, my point is - this article was asking where to go next for Linux. So I provided feedback on areas that Linux needs improvement. Ironically, doing so usually gets one bashed. (Though I'll take some of that on account of my typo.)
***********
But I'd really love to support Linux. Or I wouldn't be bothering trying to get my wife using it instead of Windows Vista. (I guess, I could take everyone's advice and simply spend more $$$ and buy only Macs. And join the crowd of TANSTAAFL folks.
In truth, we had two PC's die which left my wife needing a computer. Just having a baby, and a car accident repair and numerous other events I was in no position to dish out a lot of $$$ for a new machine. So I went with a $350 laptop and a Ubuntu.;-)
No, but that regulation should be effective. I actually support regulation. But all this will do is strengthen conglomerates and force them to only be "radio" or "tv" or "print" conglomerates.
And yet, after all this we've got next to nill approvals of "LPFM" radio stations being granted license.
"I'd say this is a Freudian slip, but lets just chalk it up to typo."
ROTFLMAO, my bad...but dang that's funny. Yes, there should be a "not anti-linux..."
"Regardless, I'd like to see your proficiency on using Windows 95 or OSX 8. I'm sure everything was just so naturally intuitive when you walked into it, right?" No, of course it wasn't. But it hasn't been since DOS/Windows 3x that I was constantly editing script files, and fussing to get just anything to work.
That said, I've only been using OS X for 5 months. And the time to transition to the new environment was quite short. That's not to say I don't have to haggle thru on some things. Or drop into terminal or run some scripts (ie: to view my hidden.svn files). But to just get up and running for the basics was very little problem.
"If instead of complaining about how utterly unintuitive an experience Linux was and took some effort to learn how that box in front of you worked, maybe it would start clicking." Trust me, I spend several days trying to just get the wifi & sound working. Got sound 3/4 working and finally had to have a friend get wifi working. Fun fun fun...
If I had the time to waste I would. I simply don't...
"Additionally, driver support in Linux is pretty much at an "It-Just-Works" state, its a lot better than the days of Win 95 and even 98 when i used to get driver problems ALL the time." I'd say it's in the "Windows 3x" days with regards on many driver aspects.
"Linux is providing us with a FREE, OPEN, community-driven alternative to computing. If you want to support a small group of self-interested organizations ultimately only interested in power over usability, then go waste your money, I'm saving mine and having an AWESOME and FUN time doing it!"
I guess part of the problem is I just don't have much time for FUN these days. I'd much rather go out shooting with my digital camera than sit for three nights working on a wifi driver installation.
"You are consumer not Enterprise. Why dont you install Windows server 2003 enterprise on your wifes laptop? what that would be silly?"
Actually, I know quite a few people who use Windows Server 2003 as their OS. Why don't I? Simply because I don't have the spare $$$ and no longer have corporate access to it.
Furthermore, if I did install Windows Server 2003 I'd not have many problems doing just the basic things. (ie: I am sure I could play sound, connect via wifi, etc)
"Enterprise is where linux shines and it shines well with competent IT behind it." Second, I don't recall this article specifying "ONLY ENTERPRISE DISCUSSION". Fine, it shines in Enterprise. So is that any reason to not have desktop users? Oh, guess what, Novell shined in enterprise and failed to address these types of issues. And it pretty much killed Novell.
"you are not a computer expert, therefore you need to use an OS that is not designed for Computer experts" Nope, just have a computer science degree. And have been working with computers since 1993. Thank you.
"you are a user with limited skillsets and education. you need an OS that holds your hand." No, I am a person like many others who has a family and hobbies all while working 1-2 jobs. I don't want to spend all my free time having to fiddle with basic computer operations and add to my skill sets. In fact, I'd rather focus on those skill sets which I need to perform my tasks at work (ie: programming).
***
That said... you are "an anonymous coward" and a "blithering @$$hole" who can't even stand by your own words.
You are also the #1 thing holding Linux back. If Linux could just shut-up all the idiot jerks like you it would be a long way toward improving itself.
The one downside of open source is that one's "technology evangelists" can be your worse advertisements. Linux suffers from this greatly. Thankfully, I am mature and intelligent enough to know that stupid people like this guy only represent a small portion of Linux advocates.
You just described the current problem my wife and I are having. We bought a laptop, it came with Vista. I figured since it was new, she had nothing on it. Perhaps I'd get her started with Linux.
I really want to support Linux. I need Windows on my machine for work related tasks. So wasn't an option. Not enough hard drive space to dual-boot either.
But my wife didn't have any critical needs. So with both of us not liking Vista, we decided to get Ubuntu Linux a try.
I find driver support (ie: Broadcom Wireless which is an extremely common card), app installation (need to install RAIDar for NAS, just want to click to install). Sound issues. Etc.
Oh if these could only be resolved, I think Linux would be really making a go. The question is, will Linux fix this situation before Microsoft fixes Vista? (Considering driver issues were the same issues that plagued my prior attempts at installing Linux in late 90's early 2000's - I have my doubts.:|
Mac OS X = Toyota/Lexus (fair enough, it's nice, reliable, full featured but sometimes you realize it's just not made for Americans by it's odd nuances. And is a bit pricey.)
Linux = Ford Mustang (classic), can be a really sweet ride with lots of performance when modified right. Rather uncomfortable in many regards. It requires a lot to get it into good shape. Really needs to move from Mustang (classic) to new Mustang.
Windows = Chevy Van, cumbersome and a bit clunky. Breaks down a fair amount. But provides a lot of functionality. Fully featured.
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Means harder for RIAA to track you... ;)
Wikipedia Admins I'd wager seldom create much content (articles, sure...the sum of their creation is likely found in summarizing the world in wikipedia articles).
They like the control and power. They are just like the kids who run around and kick down the sand castles of other kids. Destroying hours of work. Why? Because they can...and because they can't build sand castles.
We don't want multitudes of wikipedia's scattered all over. That's just stupid and stops the single location aspect of Wikipedia.
"will they still matter in 50 years?"
You have no idea...that's the problem everyone keeps trying to tell the moronic admins at Wikipedia. One of these long-running web comics may hit it big. Or perhaps it doesn't but a later comic by said artist becomes the next "Peanuts" or "Garfield" and that deleted web comic in 50 yrs is known as said famous artists first work.
But sadly, there is not much known about it because it was deleted and few archives of info related to it were kept. It was deleted in the great internet data purge of 2028. When the United Nations required all sites to chime in that they were current or they'd be pushed off the web.
"Why does mankind always assume it is intelligent and all knowing?"
You don't understand the issue. The web comic situation is a long-running conflict. You see, dozens of web comics. Some of which have been running for 1/2 a decade now. And met every single stated criteria for Wikipedia's section were deleted.
The reason given was because x or y comic wasn't in the top 1,000 sites on a particular listing site that heck, I hadn't even heard of. That said, they later changed the criteria a bit.
But even comics that have won awards, or been long-running comics. Have been cut. Furthermore, their are "niche" comics. For example a comic that caters to the gothic scene (already a much smaller sliver of society) is not going to have as broad a read base as say "Peanuts". It's like not listing Ferrari & Lamborghini under automobile manufacturers because they don't manufacture a minimum of 1,000,000 vehicles are year. That's just stupid.
And the web comic admins at Wikipedia are on par.
I. Wikipedia could be the end-all be-all of human information. The global archive of all of man's art and knowledge. Instead, it is very discriminatory often deleting articles because someone finds them of no significance. (Mind you most of our famous artists and authors were considered of no significance until after their deaths.)
II. Other people's work and effort is repeatedly destroyed. We're not talking about controversy of hot political issues. We're talking about simple non-controversial articles. Someone will spend hours editing an article only to come back and find that it's deleted some weeks later. (This is why I do not do much with Wikipedia other than use it for more common topics. Why would I want to contribute to something if all my effort is going to be repeatedly deleted. My time is too !@#$% precious for such crud. All because of some petty idiot.)
III. Because of the above reasons, many of us do not contribute much to Wikipedia. So when an issue comes up and we voice our opinions we are quickly dismissed for not being a contributor and our votes are discounted. (Even if we write a large explanation of our feelings to include with our vote.) It begins to feel like some "cartel" or "clique" and if you aren't a member then you can't play.
It's a shame...and this is truly a bigger concern than the political articles being hacked IMHO. As this is a failing in the present philosophy of Wikipedia.
This has been a long-standing issue, essentially, the criteria was changed. But web comics that have been published on line for years were cleared out.
It became very wantan...
I believe there should be NO PROXIES for domain name info. I think having such feeds into SPAMMERS. I'd rather be able to go to a WHOIS and find out who the heck is SPAMMING me and get them to stop. (I've done this on a couple of occasions.)
- Saj
Daniel 7:25 "And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time."
;)
Bro...it's the Beast, changing the times and all...
Prevent retail stores from re-selling returned products as new. This happens all the time. I am sure that at least a number of items I've bought from Circuit City and/or Best Buy were returns. I've kept them 1/2 the time as they worked, and were at good prices. But I've begun to suspect that many of these 60% priced items are undeclared return sales items.
I almost believe that there might need to be a national registry of returned items for any goods over $100. You could go look up your serial number and see if it was registered as a return. Failure to register a return would result in a criminal act. And if the item is resold would incur even stiffer penalties. In fact, reselling an return undeclared would be considered theft. If the product was over $1,000 could result in Grand Larceny charges.
My mom bought a refrigerator and purchased the extended warranty. It doesn't work well - it won't balance the freezer and the fridge. So either you have liquid ice cream OR your all the stuff in your fridge is frozen solid.
They literally refused to honor their warranty. The company sent a repair person who said it was on spec. Actually, what he basically said is this was a poor design that doesn't work well. And this is not uncommon for this model. So since it's not uncommon for this model they wouldn't fix it.
Go figure...that's like saying since it's not uncommon for the breaks to fail on this model car. So we're not going to fix it under warranty because this is pretty much a standard occurrence with this car.
***
All of this being BS as my mother's upstairs tenants have the same fridge and it doesn't have any problems.
Three types of lies:
;-)
White lies!
Damn lies!
And Statistics!
The drop in crime is actually due to LEGOS; the wonderful mental stimulating plastic brick toys which were launched in their plastic form in 1963. Yes, that is 10 yrs before the noted 1973 statistical start time. However, it took approx. 10 yrs for said toy to fully populate the American market.
Thus, the statistical analysis clearly proves that LEGOS are directly responsible for the current drop in crime.
And why would this be? Because LEGO itself is derived from the term "Play Well". The millions of kids that grow up playing with LEGOS just seem to continue to "play well" even into adulthood.
- Saj
See, I thankfully avoid opening up exe files of that sort. I guess it's one of the reasons I haven't fallen prey to virus'. Really the only one's I've encountered in recent years has been virus' in Word docs.
:)
Anyways, that said...the particular software I need to install is:
RAIDar which is the utility/access software for Infrant/Netgear ReadyNAS servers.
Being proprietary software would be the reason it's not in a repository. I know I can google and find out how to install. And I'll do so once I'm home and have some free time. But it would be nice to see Linux improve this area, at least IMHO.
Okay, then how about for just Ubuntu as I understand it, Ubuntu's goal is to essentially bring computing to the masses. (And pretty much the distribution that basically everyone I've talked to has recommended for people interested in getting started with Linux.) ;-)
RAIDar is the software for accessing a Infrant/Netgear ReadyNAS server. As such is probably proprietary and therefore probably not included with Ubuntu.
.inf file). But neither option availed.
.inf file. Even with my recent switch to OS X at work, though I confess installation was rather different. I was able to intuitively figure out how to do so fairly easily.
:)
I have the RAIDar for Linux software on a CD (it includes a couple package format, including Debian which as I understood are the one's compatible with Ubuntu). I had hoped that I could just click a file and have it install. Or right click and run a install script (akin to an
I am sure I can eventually manage it, I've just found myself so busy the past few weeks that I've not had an evening to sit down and figure out "how do I install a file".
Where as with Windows it's a simple matter of finding a setup.exe file or sometimes right-clicking an
So I think this is an area that Linux could greatly improve.
One of the big arguments that is given for paid versus open-source software is support. There are a lot of companies that offer enterprise support for Linux. And there is a lot of information scattered about on forums. But often this can be a bit cryptic for the newbie to Linux. Furthermore, such posts often assume additional knowledge. One can easily find oneself looking up a chain of topics just to get something simple working.
Perhaps what is needed is "Open Source Support". A website who's focus is to help the newbie to Linux on the consumer end. The site would have volunteers helping via IM chat, email, and perhaps VoIP. Said site would only support the most basic of activities (ie: setting up basic configurations such as mouse, video, printer, basic networking, etc. Basic software installation. Etc).
The support agents would be volunteers. The website would provide email alias & accounts. And even an option to "tip" your support representative via "Paypal" or perhaps other means. The site would avoid any more complex issues (ie: setting up your own web server, etc). Not saying a support contact might not help someone. But any such request could be politely declined.
It'd be an interesting idea. Not sure if it could be pulled off, but if it could I think such a site would do wonders for helping people migrate to Linux. (Which would then entail much more support on the corporate end for drivers, development and enterprise activities.)
- The Saj
That's a very beneficial response.
This has made me think that there is a another thing that Linux should do next. I almost think that Linux should consider a "free consumer support" site for beginners to Linux.
So what we really want is WinuX (Windows/Linux/OSX)
The program you want to run just like Windows
The ease of hardware & software installation like Windows/Mac
The tweakability and performance of Linux
Guess what we really want is a vehicle that can change between a Ferrari convertible and a Ford F350. *lol*
"After the first time, you should have went out of your way to pick hardware that is known to work on Linux, rather than just buying whatever and getting Linux to work on it."
;-)
See, then it's not free. This was a laptop that I picked up for my wife for $350. To do that I'd be spending several hundred dollars or more. Secondly, it's near impossible to get details of the specific hardware before purchase. In fact, many of my model had a different wifi card that was highly recommended by Linux users.
"Ubuntu's installer is simple- you click a checkbox to pick what you want, then click "apply" and it'll install. You don't have to use "sudo apt-get install"."
I tried using the installer to install the RAIDar software and it didn't seem to know what to do with either of the three Linux packages on the disk.
I intend to revisit it, and I am sure I can get it installed...but trying to get the free time means a week or two wait.
***********
Anyways, my point is - this article was asking where to go next for Linux. So I provided feedback on areas that Linux needs improvement. Ironically, doing so usually gets one bashed. (Though I'll take some of that on account of my typo.)
***********
But I'd really love to support Linux. Or I wouldn't be bothering trying to get my wife using it instead of Windows Vista. (I guess, I could take everyone's advice and simply spend more $$$ and buy only Macs. And join the crowd of TANSTAAFL folks.
In truth, we had two PC's die which left my wife needing a computer. Just having a baby, and a car accident repair and numerous other events I was in no position to dish out a lot of $$$ for a new machine. So I went with a $350 laptop and a Ubuntu.
I'm trying...
No, but that regulation should be effective. I actually support regulation. But all this will do is strengthen conglomerates and force them to only be "radio" or "tv" or "print" conglomerates.
And yet, after all this we've got next to nill approvals of "LPFM" radio stations being granted license.
"I'd say this is a Freudian slip, but lets just chalk it up to typo."
.svn files). But to just get up and running for the basics was very little problem.
ROTFLMAO, my bad...but dang that's funny. Yes, there should be a "not anti-linux..."
"Regardless, I'd like to see your proficiency on using Windows 95 or OSX 8. I'm sure everything was just so naturally intuitive when you walked into it, right?"
No, of course it wasn't. But it hasn't been since DOS/Windows 3x that I was constantly editing script files, and fussing to get just anything to work.
That said, I've only been using OS X for 5 months. And the time to transition to the new environment was quite short. That's not to say I don't have to haggle thru on some things. Or drop into terminal or run some scripts (ie: to view my hidden
"If instead of complaining about how utterly unintuitive an experience Linux was and took some effort to learn how that box in front of you worked, maybe it would start clicking."
Trust me, I spend several days trying to just get the wifi & sound working. Got sound 3/4 working and finally had to have a friend get wifi working. Fun fun fun...
If I had the time to waste I would. I simply don't...
"Additionally, driver support in Linux is pretty much at an "It-Just-Works" state, its a lot better than the days of Win 95 and even 98 when i used to get driver problems ALL the time."
I'd say it's in the "Windows 3x" days with regards on many driver aspects.
"Linux is providing us with a FREE, OPEN, community-driven alternative to computing. If you want to support a small group of self-interested organizations ultimately only interested in power over usability, then go waste your money, I'm saving mine and having an AWESOME and FUN time doing it!"
I guess part of the problem is I just don't have much time for FUN these days. I'd much rather go out shooting with my digital camera than sit for three nights working on a wifi driver installation.
"You are consumer not Enterprise. Why dont you install Windows server 2003 enterprise on your wifes laptop? what that would be silly?"
Actually, I know quite a few people who use Windows Server 2003 as their OS. Why don't I? Simply because I don't have the spare $$$ and no longer have corporate access to it.
Furthermore, if I did install Windows Server 2003 I'd not have many problems doing just the basic things. (ie: I am sure I could play sound, connect via wifi, etc)
"Enterprise is where linux shines and it shines well with competent IT behind it."
Second, I don't recall this article specifying "ONLY ENTERPRISE DISCUSSION". Fine, it shines in Enterprise. So is that any reason to not have desktop users? Oh, guess what, Novell shined in enterprise and failed to address these types of issues. And it pretty much killed Novell.
"you are not a computer expert, therefore you need to use an OS that is not designed for Computer experts"
Nope, just have a computer science degree. And have been working with computers since 1993. Thank you.
"you are a user with limited skillsets and education. you need an OS that holds your hand."
No, I am a person like many others who has a family and hobbies all while working 1-2 jobs. I don't want to spend all my free time having to fiddle with basic computer operations and add to my skill sets. In fact, I'd rather focus on those skill sets which I need to perform my tasks at work (ie: programming).
***
That said... you are "an anonymous coward" and a "blithering @$$hole" who can't even stand by your own words.
You are also the #1 thing holding Linux back. If Linux could just shut-up all the idiot jerks like you it would be a long way toward improving itself.
The one downside of open source is that one's "technology evangelists" can be your worse advertisements. Linux suffers from this greatly. Thankfully, I am mature and intelligent enough to know that stupid people like this guy only represent a small portion of Linux advocates.
So I still have hope...
Absolutely right...
:|
You just described the current problem my wife and I are having. We bought a laptop, it came with Vista. I figured since it was new, she had nothing on it. Perhaps I'd get her started with Linux.
I really want to support Linux. I need Windows on my machine for work related tasks. So wasn't an option. Not enough hard drive space to dual-boot either.
But my wife didn't have any critical needs. So with both of us not liking Vista, we decided to get Ubuntu Linux a try.
I find driver support (ie: Broadcom Wireless which is an extremely common card), app installation (need to install RAIDar for NAS, just want to click to install). Sound issues. Etc.
Oh if these could only be resolved, I think Linux would be really making a go. The question is, will Linux fix this situation before Microsoft fixes Vista? (Considering driver issues were the same issues that plagued my prior attempts at installing Linux in late 90's early 2000's - I have my doubts.
- The Saj
Inaccurate representation:
Mac OS X = Toyota/Lexus (fair enough, it's nice, reliable, full featured but sometimes you realize it's just not made for Americans by it's odd nuances. And is a bit pricey.)
Linux = Ford Mustang (classic), can be a really sweet ride with lots of performance when modified right. Rather uncomfortable in many regards. It requires a lot to get it into good shape. Really needs to move from Mustang (classic) to new Mustang.
Windows = Chevy Van, cumbersome and a bit clunky. Breaks down a fair amount. But provides a lot of functionality. Fully featured.