You're still not thinking. It's OTHER PEOPLE who have Cyber Patrol installed that are unable to view the site.
The Real Answer is to tell people not to use Cyber Patrol because it's lame. Hard to do when they're potential employers.
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And what about if you're talking to a card shark who likes to garden? J4, all I was trying to do was show that words don't mean just one thing. And even if RMS is wrong, it's not lies or propoganda unless it's a DELIBERATE untruth.
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I simply think that there are degrees of freedom. That freedom is not an absolute term. Disagree if you like.
As for Anarchy, I don't think there's anything wrong with being an Anarchist. It's a valid political stance, and I tried to present it that way, although I don't personally believe it. Ararchy implies a belief that people won't abuse freedom.
Next year, Microsoft could embrace and extend Apache, and no one could stop them. If the people coding Apache don't MIND Microsoft making money off their hard work, that's another story. . .
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What I cannot countenance is calling a heart a spade. Only spades are spades.
Tom, a spade is either a kind of playing card or a garden tool.
European=person from the continent of Europe. African=person from the continent of Africa. Australian=person from the continent of Australia American!=U.S. Citizen
Yet, for hysterical reasons, U.S. citizens refer to themselves, and only themselves, as "Americans". They know that there are other countries in North and South America, yet they insist on referring to the United States of America as "America"--as if there was nothing else.
It's doubletalk because people know it's false and say so anyway. It makes a mishmash of the phrase, "In 1792, Columbus discovered America", because what he discovered was a new continent, not the United States (How can you discover something that doesn't exist yet?).
OTOH, I think RMS truly believes GPL'ed software is as free as a U.S. citizen. And they're free, right? Calling something free when has what you believe freedom is--that's not doubletalk. You may be wrong, but you're not a liar.
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Gotta disagree with you about "free".
If, as you say, freedom can only mean absolute freedom, citizens of the US are not free. Neither are Canadians like me.
Tools like the US constitution or the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms are rules that promote freedom. They must, however, restrict other freedoms in doing so. For instance, your freedom of speech could reduce my freedom from persecution via hate literature. US law favours those who spread hate literature. The Charter of Rights and Freedoms subjects those freedoms to "such reasonable limits. . . as can be demonstrably justified in a free and democratic society". That way, we can still make hate literature illegal.
If limits on freedom to protect other freedoms aren't acceptable to you, then you are someone who believes that people don't need laws to live together in harmony--in other words, an anarchist.
FSF sees source code availability as key to freedom. The GPL is their "constitution". It restricts some freedoms, in order to strengthen others.
Besides, we already have a name for what you call "free software": public domain.
Loss of choice=loss of value, not necessarily loss of money. Everyone wins if some other, better suite is an option, even if the price is the same as MS office.
I don't think there's a way to embed, say, an image in an XML file. That's a major drawback. We want something we can e-mail as a single document. XML+ZIP/tar might cut it if properly automated. . .
Troll much? You've managed to take the point ARS was making and spin it 180. Ars was complaining that the vendors at Linux shows don't show their wares at the mainstream shows.
In other words, they were complaining about a LACK of promotion.
ESR invented the term. Therefore, he can own the term--as long as it doesn't become a generic, like Kleenex.
But it has.
It's not so evil to trademark "Open Source". Coke and Pepsi are nearly the same drink, but they have different trademarks. If OSI turned evil, we could always call it "source-available" or "code-included" or something.
First of all, you can trademark "Ford" or "GM" or whatever. Second, you can trademark "Dolby", even though it doesn't refer to an object, but a process or set of conventions. Like "Dolby", "Open Source" is a process and set of conventions. Like the software it describes, it needs protection, so that no one can claim to be OS when they aren't.
I rather like to remember that Deep Blue was the successor to Deep Thought, a chess-playing computer obviously named after Douglas Adams' creation. How often does science-fiction parody inpact the future?
Oh, I wasn't saying having ten times as many transformers isn't cost-effective. I don't know anything about that. But when that UK internet transmission first got press, the articles explained that the multitude of transformers in the US meant it wasn't practical there. So it can't be the same tech (unless this new company is amazingly stupid. ..) Wouldn't it be nice if these "General Interest" technology stories had a "Technical information" hyperlink that gave all the nitty gritty instead of making us guess?
The UK/Europe technology a. isn't in use because street lamps tend to transmit the data as radio signals b. isn't appliacable to the US because the US power network uses ten times as many transformers, and transformers must be routed around, which is not worth it in the US.
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I agree: You can't spell. The reason why it's a ritual is because people behave the same way every time it happens.
D&D and Ozzy Osbourne are different from New Media and movies. If you really mean this hasn't chaged in a long time, then you're saying journalists were scapegoating the Internet long before the web was invented!
It's generally acknowledged that crime is going down in almost every context. Can YOU cite research showing otherwise?
Keep in mind, folks, that written messages are not the only information transferred. A painting, for example, is at least 300 dpi at 24-bit colour. At 8.5x11, that's 25 megabytes. Even books and scrolls had illustration, often with decorative initial letters that must have been several megabytes big.
And remember that the transportation of a human who bears information is equivalent to a videoconference with perfect audio and video fidelity.
Finally, if you just want to know about Internet bandwidth, Jakob Nielsen's got a nice chart.
It's already been done. It's called RSACi.
http://www.rsac.org/homepage.asp
You're still not thinking. It's OTHER PEOPLE who have Cyber Patrol installed that are unable to view the site.
The Real Answer is to tell people not to use Cyber Patrol because it's lame. Hard to do when they're potential employers.
And what about if you're talking to a card shark who likes to garden?
J4, all I was trying to do was show that words don't mean just one thing. And even if RMS is wrong, it's not lies or propoganda unless it's a DELIBERATE untruth.
I simply think that there are degrees of freedom. That freedom is not an absolute term. Disagree if you like.
As for Anarchy, I don't think there's anything wrong with being an Anarchist. It's a valid political stance, and I tried to present it that way, although I don't personally believe it. Ararchy implies a belief that people won't abuse freedom.
Next year, Microsoft could embrace and extend Apache, and no one could stop them. If the people coding Apache don't MIND Microsoft making money off their hard work, that's another story. . .
European=person from the continent of Europe.
African=person from the continent of Africa.
Australian=person from the continent of Australia
American!=U.S. Citizen
Yet, for hysterical reasons, U.S. citizens refer to themselves, and only themselves, as "Americans". They know that there are other countries in North and South America, yet they insist on referring to the United States of America as "America"--as if there was nothing else.
It's doubletalk because people know it's false and say so anyway. It makes a mishmash of the phrase, "In 1792, Columbus discovered America", because what he discovered was a new continent, not the United States (How can you discover something that doesn't exist yet?).
OTOH, I think RMS truly believes GPL'ed software is as free as a U.S. citizen. And they're free, right? Calling something free when has what you believe freedom is--that's not doubletalk. You may be wrong, but you're not a liar.
If, as you say, freedom can only mean absolute freedom, citizens of the US are not free. Neither are Canadians like me.
Tools like the US constitution or the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms are rules that promote freedom. They must, however, restrict other freedoms in doing so. For instance, your freedom of speech could reduce my freedom from persecution via hate literature. US law favours those who spread hate literature. The Charter of Rights and Freedoms subjects those freedoms to "such reasonable limits. . . as can be demonstrably justified in a free and democratic society". That way, we can still make hate literature illegal.
If limits on freedom to protect other freedoms aren't acceptable to you, then you are someone who believes that people don't need laws to live together in harmony--in other words, an anarchist.
FSF sees source code availability as key to freedom. The GPL is their "constitution". It restricts some freedoms, in order to strengthen others.
Besides, we already have a name for what you call "free software": public domain.
Loss of choice=loss of value, not necessarily loss of money. Everyone wins if some other, better suite is an option, even if the price is the same as MS office.
I don't think there's a way to embed, say, an image in an XML file. That's a major drawback. We want something we can e-mail as a single document.
XML+ZIP/tar might cut it if properly automated. . .
Troll much?
You've managed to take the point ARS was making and spin it 180. Ars was complaining that the vendors at Linux shows don't show their wares at the mainstream shows.
In other words, they were complaining about a LACK of promotion.
This sucker is a network computer. Maybe when they say the system runs beos/linux, they mean client runs BeOs, server runs (unmodified) linux.
Didn't Jean-Louis Gasee say anyone who wanted to could pre-load BeOs, as a way of making the point about MS dominance (e.g. no one would anyway)?
Articles I've read said it IS upgradeable to ethernet. More I don't know.
Don't wonder; use Netcraft. It's Microsoft-IIS
ESR invented the term. Therefore, he can own the term--as long as it doesn't become a generic, like Kleenex.
But it has.
It's not so evil to trademark "Open Source". Coke and Pepsi are nearly the same drink, but they have different trademarks. If OSI turned evil, we could always call it "source-available" or "code-included" or something.
If M$ puts `OSI Certified' on the W2K package without meeting the conditions, who sues them?
OSI.
First of all, you can trademark "Ford" or "GM" or whatever.
Second, you can trademark "Dolby", even though it doesn't refer to an object, but a process or set of conventions.
Like "Dolby", "Open Source" is a process and set of conventions. Like the software it describes, it needs protection, so that no one can claim to be OS when they aren't.
I rather like to remember that Deep Blue was the successor to Deep Thought, a chess-playing computer obviously named after Douglas Adams' creation.
How often does science-fiction parody inpact the future?
Oh, I wasn't saying having ten times as many transformers isn't cost-effective. I don't know anything about that. .)
But when that UK internet transmission first got press, the articles explained that the multitude of transformers in the US meant it wasn't practical there.
So it can't be the same tech (unless this new company is amazingly stupid. .
Wouldn't it be nice if these "General Interest" technology stories had a "Technical information" hyperlink that gave all the nitty gritty instead of making us guess?
Aaron
The UK/Europe technology
a. isn't in use because street lamps tend to transmit the data as radio signals
b. isn't appliacable to the US because the US power network uses ten times as many transformers, and transformers must be routed around, which is not worth it in the US.
What, Morpheus didn't go to High School?
I agree: You can't spell.
The reason why it's a ritual is because people behave the same way every time it happens.
D&D and Ozzy Osbourne are different from New Media and movies. If you really mean this hasn't chaged in a long time, then you're saying journalists were scapegoating the Internet long before the web was invented!
It's generally acknowledged that crime is going down in almost every context. Can YOU cite research showing otherwise?
And remember that the transportation of a human who bears information is equivalent to a videoconference with perfect audio and video fidelity.
Finally, if you just want to know about Internet bandwidth, Jakob Nielsen's got a nice chart.