Will you respect my right to want no part of this?
Of course you have the right to want no part of it, but you'll only get my respect when you voluntarily pass up all of the other benefits you might receive under "socialized" ideas.
Stay out of public libraries, stay off the public highways, don't take any unemployment insurance, don't ever enroll your young children in WIC, don't go to a state university (or if you already have, donate the state-supported portion of your tuition back to the school), don't use federal loan guarantees to get through school or purchase a house, don't deduct your house or school loan interest payments on your income tax, and lobby any church you my go to to pay full income taxes like all other businesses do.
Do all of that, and you'll have a lot of my respect.
Stay out of public libraries, stay off the public highways, don't take any unemployment insurance, don't ever enroll your young children in WIC, don't go to a state university (or if you already have, donate the state-supported portion of your tuition back to the school), don't use federal loan guarantees to get through school or purchase a house, don't deduct your house or school loan interest payments on your income tax, and lobby any church you my go to to pay full income taxes like all other businesses do.
Do all of that, and you'll have a lot of my respect.
You've lumped a variety of local, state, and federal taxes together here.
Mine was not a libertarian argument.
I don't mind paying taxes, e.g. for roads and libraries, where I choose and receive benefit.
I'm also not averse to, say, Massachuesetts implementing a state-wide health care mandate. Good on 'em.
The problem is that the further up the political org chart you go with a program, the harder it is to affect it with your political will.
Not to mention the fact that the 10th Amendment would seem a barrier to implementing something like Social Security.
Sure, I went to a service academy as an undergraduate, took a VA loan for some school, and another for a home loan (since converted to a standard mortgage).
You might even argue that my obligated service and continued servive to my country doesn't count, and I'm just skimming like everyone else.
Ultimately, I can't command even the tiniest shred of your respect.
I respect your right to this opinion.
Will you respect my right to want no part of this?
Those who want to embed this concept at the federal government level are respectfully encouraged to get it passed as a Constitutional Amendment.
With a Constitutional Amendment in place, Constitution-lovers like me can shut up about what a corruption of the ideas present in that document these socialized ideas appear to be.
http://www.mda.mil/mdalink/html/aboutus.html MDA Mission
To develop and field an integrated, layered, ballistic missile defense system to defend the United States, its deployed forces, allies, and friends against all ranges of enemy ballistic missiles in all phases of flight.
1. Retain, recruit, and develop a high-performing and accountable workforce.
2. Deliver near-term additional defensive capability in a structured Block approach to close gaps and improve the BMDS.
3. Establish partnerships with the Services to enable their operations and support of the BMDS components for the Combatant Commanders.
4. Substantially improve and demonstrate the military utility of the BMDS through increased system integration and testing.
5. Execute a robust BMDS technology and development program to address the challenges of the evolving threat through the use of key knowledge points.
6. Expand international cooperation through a comprehensive strategy to support our mutual security interests in missile defense.
7. Maximize mission assurance and cost effectiveness of MDA's management and operations through continuous process improvement.
Because, when an organization is going to burn through more cash than you or I will see in several lifetimes, you can bet your bippy they'll have some fancy words out front.;)
ProtoCons? Oh, what a bunch of pikers!
The whole ProtoCon movement was really a distractor to draw attention away from the PaleoCon agenda.
Those PaleoCons won't rest until they've restored the monarchy.
("you" in the following refers to a generic sales weenie)
No, lie to us and tell us that vendor X can fix that for us real easy.
We'll pay too much for system Y, which you will have about 80% of the functionality of the existing crap-heap.
Then you'll gradually sell piecemeal upgrades to system Y, eventually reaching 95% of the functionality of the now-fondly-remembered crap-heap that Y replaced.
Then you'll switch to vendor Z, excrement the loop counter, and the whole scatalogical cycle repeats.
I'm simply not in the primary target demographic to be used and abused.
You are asserting that an organization, presumably the government, (or some subset of it) exists, which has "target demographics" it is consciously abusing?
I suppose you could correlate the locations of Planned Parenthood clinics (which reveals a politically incorrect result) and conclude that eugenics is alive and well.
no one is free while others are oppressed
Yeah, I think that Tibetans and Palestinians are in a suck spot. Two points:
- I don't see those holding the Absolute Moral Authority Cards taking on any personal pain in the matter. The leadership, e.g. Jimmy Carter, excels at telling me how to feel, but rarely, as a group, sets much of a personal example.
- We really need not be so species-centric in our aims. We can, for example, include plants in the calculus: http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20080414/od_afp/switzerlandenvironmentplantsoffbeat_080414190243
There seems, to me, a near-contradiction in the simultaneous desire for individual liberty on the one hand, and the earnest desire of some to consolidate power in the name of "fixing" stuff on the other. Most of the time, government "fixes" are cures worse than the disease, particularly where things like health and retirement are concerned.
This approach moral equivalency approach takes you down the road of all governments being tyrannies. No "perfect" government is possible, so there will be a non-zero count of people unjustly imprisoned.
Clearly, this must be minimized.
The link is to a t-shirt offer with the words:
"Caesari si viveret, ad remum dareris" If Caesar were alive, you'd be chained to an oar
By which I mean to say, if the US (presuming that your are in fact sitting in the US) really were a tyranny, there would be some actual tyrannical stuff going on. I wouldn't wish such, and I tend to think I'd be among those organizing a return to better times, were such a hypothetical to materialize.
And the probability is a non-zero one. While I dispute the charge that the US is a tyranny at present, the drift of history since, say, Woodrow Wilson is in the direction of greater concentrated power in DC. Things like Social Security and the War Powers Resolution are the main threats, binding people to the Fed and giving too much latitude to the Executive.
http://www.indoctrinate-u.com/intro/
Great flick.
Political Correctness is about doing the wrong thing for seemingly proper reasons.
Or, it's passive aggression writ large.
Shit, you can potentially get sent to jail for years for copying a DVD for personal use!
I could also be potentially hit by a jet aircraft.
Is my government, in addition to being tyrannical, negligent concerning overall safety, by permitting, in its despotic abuse of authority by an absolute ruler, this obviously dangerous air travel above my head?
You sig nearly causes me to dump this thread, but let me leave you with a link to a rather fashionable refutation of your charge of tyranny: http://www.zazzle.com/zortmeister/product/235250760192832758
I'm generally of the opinion that code generation is an indicator of weaknesses that would be better fixed in the language.
Strong disagreement.
Stroustrup is one "head" who spends a lot of time discussing "where to put stuff", and his ideas are rather generally applicable.
The core language is best kept small and simple, so that it is fast and tractable for the n00b.
Swell stuff like code generation is better shunted into a library, so that you
aren't paying for stuff you don't use (scalability),
aren't wiping out the n00b with TMI on the first day, and
aren't churning out stuff you can't verify is secure.
IOW, less is more.
My chief complaint about any of these IDEs, and he nails it in this Generated Code section, is that there are so many of these fscking "magic files" keeping state. Keeping lock-in is more closer to the truth.
The problem isn't as obvious in Windows circles, as VS has such an overwhelming market share.
Try to get an Eclipse weenie to work with a NetBeans project--a non-trivial challenge. Yet, it's all Java, no?
Here is the acid test. Take someone who is competent with VS and see if they can actually produce something above the "Hello, World" level using another tool.
Let them get comfortable with some COM programming, say, ADODB to query something, and then laying out data on an Excel sheet.
Then see if they can accomplish the same task using ActiveState's Python implementation in a reasonable amount of time.
Then, for sheer sadism, force them to SSH into a Unix box and accomplish a similar task using vi and Perl. Mwahahahhahahaha
Consider a reasonable definition of "tyranny": http://dictionary.reference.com/search?r=2&q=Tyranny
China, though I haven't researched the matter thoroughly, might qualify.
If you think the US a tyranny, then I wish you could go live in an actual tyranny, briefly, for comparison.
Let me agree and disagree with you.
I don't mind at all an individual altruistic desire to share with "humanity as a whole".
What worries me is the idea that "Intellectual property is a very egoist concept nowadays, in a time in which technological innovation can help so many people."
This smacks of a pretext for privileging a small, elite group of people who get to define "innovation" and "help" in ways that may or may not be to the liking of the "many", much less the "egoist" in question.
That whole "From each according to his ability, to each according to his need", in reality, frequently means "If I can't have it, you can't have it."
Coveting is a sin, actively in the traditional sense, or passively through Marxist means.
an irreparable infrastructure and horrific civil war. If that's not bad enough for you
Is the goal here to trade examples of hyperbole, or to engage in a thorough critical analysis of some arguably crappy policy decisions and tragedies that resulted therefrom?
I had subscribed to RMS's politcal RSS feed for a while, but the continuous stream of unhelpful thought along the lines of your quoted fragment became too much.
Clinton, Bush, et al. are just flexing the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_Powers_Act. If you want my attention, tell me how we're going to restore the separation of powers written within the United States Constitution, and require a President to get a proper declaration of war before galavanting. Short of that, what are you doing but setting yourself up for More Of Same, sir?
Slashdot Mirror
Bollocks. Should be:
Lake Xacuabs (with a wee vee atop the 's')
If only they had synchronized the distros.
Many miles away
Something crawls from the slime
At the bottom of the dark
Lake XacuabÅ
Even less connected: file format lock-in.
Sorry, man: saw you'd beaten me by six minutes on that link only after clicking Submit.
I usually say "jello uphill with a toothpick", myself.
Maybe Barbara Streisand can write a song about WikiLeaks.
This is government work. You expect otherwise? ;)
Mine was not a libertarian argument.
I don't mind paying taxes, e.g. for roads and libraries, where I choose and receive benefit.
I'm also not averse to, say, Massachuesetts implementing a state-wide health care mandate. Good on 'em.
The problem is that the further up the political org chart you go with a program, the harder it is to affect it with your political will.
Not to mention the fact that the 10th Amendment would seem a barrier to implementing something like Social Security.
Sure, I went to a service academy as an undergraduate, took a VA loan for some school, and another for a home loan (since converted to a standard mortgage).
You might even argue that my obligated service and continued servive to my country doesn't count, and I'm just skimming like everyone else.
Ultimately, I can't command even the tiniest shred of your respect.
Will you respect my right to want no part of this?
Those who want to embed this concept at the federal government level are respectfully encouraged to get it passed as a Constitutional Amendment.
With a Constitutional Amendment in place, Constitution-lovers like me can shut up about what a corruption of the ideas present in that document these socialized ideas appear to be.
Married. Yo' bippy not an interest item. Sorry.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Bippy
http://www.mda.mil/mdalink/html/aboutus.html
;)
MDA Mission
To develop and field an integrated, layered, ballistic missile defense system to defend the United States, its deployed forces, allies, and friends against all ranges of enemy ballistic missiles in all phases of flight.
1. Retain, recruit, and develop a high-performing and accountable workforce.
2. Deliver near-term additional defensive capability in a structured Block approach to close gaps and improve the BMDS.
3. Establish partnerships with the Services to enable their operations and support of the BMDS components for the Combatant Commanders.
4. Substantially improve and demonstrate the military utility of the BMDS through increased system integration and testing.
5. Execute a robust BMDS technology and development program to address the challenges of the evolving threat through the use of key knowledge points.
6. Expand international cooperation through a comprehensive strategy to support our mutual security interests in missile defense.
7. Maximize mission assurance and cost effectiveness of MDA's management and operations through continuous process improvement.
Because, when an organization is going to burn through more cash than you or I will see in several lifetimes, you can bet your bippy they'll have some fancy words out front.
ProtoCons? Oh, what a bunch of pikers!
The whole ProtoCon movement was really a distractor to draw attention away from the PaleoCon agenda.
Those PaleoCons won't rest until they've restored the monarchy.
Cockroaches, politicians...
No, lie to us and tell us that vendor X can fix that for us real easy.
We'll pay too much for system Y, which you will have about 80% of the functionality of the existing crap-heap.
Then you'll gradually sell piecemeal upgrades to system Y, eventually reaching 95% of the functionality of the now-fondly-remembered crap-heap that Y replaced.
Then you'll switch to vendor Z, excrement the loop counter, and the whole scatalogical cycle repeats.
I suppose you could correlate the locations of Planned Parenthood clinics (which reveals a politically incorrect result) and conclude that eugenics is alive and well.
Yeah, I think that Tibetans and Palestinians are in a suck spot. Two points:
- I don't see those holding the Absolute Moral Authority Cards taking on any personal pain in the matter. The leadership, e.g. Jimmy Carter, excels at telling me how to feel, but rarely, as a group, sets much of a personal example.
- We really need not be so species-centric in our aims. We can, for example, include plants in the calculus: http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20080414/od_afp/switzerlandenvironmentplantsoffbeat_080414190243
There seems, to me, a near-contradiction in the simultaneous desire for individual liberty on the one hand, and the earnest desire of some to consolidate power in the name of "fixing" stuff on the other. Most of the time, government "fixes" are cures worse than the disease, particularly where things like health and retirement are concerned.
This approach moral equivalency approach takes you down the road of all governments being tyrannies. No "perfect" government is possible, so there will be a non-zero count of people unjustly imprisoned.
Clearly, this must be minimized.
The link is to a t-shirt offer with the words:
"Caesari si viveret, ad remum dareris"
If Caesar were alive, you'd be chained to an oar
By which I mean to say, if the US (presuming that your are in fact sitting in the US) really were a tyranny, there would be some actual tyrannical stuff going on. I wouldn't wish such, and I tend to think I'd be among those organizing a return to better times, were such a hypothetical to materialize.
And the probability is a non-zero one. While I dispute the charge that the US is a tyranny at present, the drift of history since, say, Woodrow Wilson is in the direction of greater concentrated power in DC. Things like Social Security and the War Powers Resolution are the main threats, binding people to the Fed and giving too much latitude to the Executive.
http://www.indoctrinate-u.com/intro/
Great flick.
Political Correctness is about doing the wrong thing for seemingly proper reasons.
Or, it's passive aggression writ large.
Is my government, in addition to being tyrannical, negligent concerning overall safety, by permitting, in its despotic abuse of authority by an absolute ruler, this obviously dangerous air travel above my head?
You sig nearly causes me to dump this thread, but let me leave you with a link to a rather fashionable refutation of your charge of tyranny:
http://www.zazzle.com/zortmeister/product/235250760192832758
Stroustrup is one "head" who spends a lot of time discussing "where to put stuff", and his ideas are rather generally applicable.
The core language is best kept small and simple, so that it is fast and tractable for the n00b.
Swell stuff like code generation is better shunted into a library, so that you
aren't paying for stuff you don't use (scalability),
aren't wiping out the n00b with TMI on the first day, and
aren't churning out stuff you can't verify is secure.
IOW, less is more.
My chief complaint about any of these IDEs, and he nails it in this Generated Code section, is that there are so many of these fscking "magic files" keeping state. Keeping lock-in is more closer to the truth.
The problem isn't as obvious in Windows circles, as VS has such an overwhelming market share.
Try to get an Eclipse weenie to work with a NetBeans project--a non-trivial challenge. Yet, it's all Java, no?
Here is the acid test. Take someone who is competent with VS and see if they can actually produce something above the "Hello, World" level using another tool.
Let them get comfortable with some COM programming, say, ADODB to query something, and then laying out data on an Excel sheet.
Then see if they can accomplish the same task using ActiveState's Python implementation in a reasonable amount of time.
Then, for sheer sadism, force them to SSH into a Unix box and accomplish a similar task using vi and Perl. Mwahahahhahahaha
Consider a reasonable definition of "tyranny":
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?r=2&q=Tyranny
China, though I haven't researched the matter thoroughly, might qualify.
If you think the US a tyranny, then I wish you could go live in an actual tyranny, briefly, for comparison.
Yeah, but at least it doesn't Rot the Mind.
Let me agree and disagree with you.
I don't mind at all an individual altruistic desire to share with "humanity as a whole".
What worries me is the idea that "Intellectual property is a very egoist concept nowadays, in a time in which technological innovation can help so many people."
This smacks of a pretext for privileging a small, elite group of people who get to define "innovation" and "help" in ways that may or may not be to the liking of the "many", much less the "egoist" in question.
That whole "From each according to his ability, to each according to his need", in reality, frequently means "If I can't have it, you can't have it."
Coveting is a sin, actively in the traditional sense, or passively through Marxist means.
I had subscribed to RMS's politcal RSS feed for a while, but the continuous stream of unhelpful thought along the lines of your quoted fragment became too much.
Clinton, Bush, et al. are just flexing the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_Powers_Act. If you want my attention, tell me how we're going to restore the separation of powers written within the United States Constitution, and require a President to get a proper declaration of war before galavanting. Short of that, what are you doing but setting yourself up for More Of Same, sir?