Jamendo is hunderds of Creative Commons licensed music albums available on BitTorrent and eMule/kad/ed2k networks, OGG and MP3 no DRM. The system is free for artists, free for music fans and ad supported. Very popular in french speaking countries.
How many people around you are iTunes customers, how many are P2P users... In the 15-25 age rank, I see a 0% market share for iTunes, nearly 100% eMule. in the range 25-35, I have a 10% market share for iTunes. And the ones that are iTunes users are also downloading content using a P2P client like Limewire.
So I don't buy this study, they compare iTunes trafic with web site that allow the download of a software, not the content.
Try indy music, using your favorite BitTorrent client to download legal content. It will be harder for the trafic police to stop BitTorrent as a general infriging technology.
Thanks for the reference, but uuh no, there's nothing formal, no strict guarantee that for instance a polish band that uploads its CD on jamendo hasn't copied the music from the latest bresilian hit. How could we guarantee ? Moderation is a mean to reduce this kind of problem, to avoid obvious cases. Like other website (eBay) we may always exclude bands when there is a problem.
*** Disclaimer : I'm one of the founder of Jamendo ***
Reading this/. thread, sorry about this, I can't resist explaining what we're doing here in Luxembourg.
We started jamendo beginning of 2005. The aim of Jamendo is to help artists use P2P technologies and particulary BitTorrent to get to a larger audience. We combine Creative Commons Licence with BitTorrent to have artists publish their work, and promote a legal use of BitTorrent or eMule or Shareaza or...
Thanks to our jamloader , artists put their demo CD in their PC/Mac/Linux and automagically their work get published as a torrent on jamendo and accessible with eMule. The software rips the CD to FLAC, ask to choose one of the 6 creative commons licenses and uploads the datas to our servers. On our servers we do the rip in other various formats, Ogg, MP3, AAC, and do the creative commons watermarking. We also do some kind of community moderation, in order to avoid the ones that upload the latest Britney Spears or the ones that upload the latest neo-nazy band. Bands have to link back to our website from their official website as a control ( see godon for exemple )
Finally we use iRate as our core technology to do the rating of the music, and do intelligent propositions to our audience. Our XMLRPC-iRate server ( http://irate.jamendo.com/ ) supports the latest features of the iRate protocol but today, there's not enough client software, but we have the project to write our jamplayer that will combine iRate and BitTorrent and foxytunes.
What about the money ? Our business model differs from the one of magnatune for instance ( I quote magnatune because John Buckman made a very nice and cool entry in his blog, thanks again to him). We have a more ad-centric model were the service is free for the artists, is free for the audience, but the web pages are ad supported (no popup), the streamed music may be ad-supported up to 1 audio ad every 3 songs, the published archive in P2P networks are high quality archives with no ads. The idea is : bandwidth heavy is ad-supported, bandwidth friendly (i.e. BitTorrent) is ad-free ! We are not a label but rather a "community driven music hosting company" , we allow the bands to put their paypal button to receive donation on their jamendo page, jamendo takes no margin.
Sorry again/. crowd to present our project in this thread, but I really felt it was on topic ! So if you want to listen to indy music coming from Luxembourg, Belgium and North of France point your favorite BitTorrent client to jamendo.
With these frameworks, you begin to reach the productivity of RAD tools "à la" MS-Access PowerBuilder, FrameBuilder, and co . But still keeping the advantages of a web deploiement and the avantage of OSS.
There will be less trafic jams because this bridge has been built to avoid a bottleneck on the highway from Clermond-Ferrand to Béziers. So Millau will no more be considered as a driver nightmare.
It will generate tourism. Like other recent constructions, it will generate a lot of tourism for Millau. At least before it becomes the second highest bridge in the world;)
I was present at a JDS show here in europe. And I had a chat with some of their sales representatives.
Their sales guy are in a real channel conflict, they can't chat on their new JDS without at least saying once solaris ! They see JDS as a short term answer, before having their customer "upgrading" their JDS on Linux to a JDS on solaris. That's the strategy ! That's why they do not market the words GNU, Linux or GPL.
The other issue is the Java brand ! The slide show (staroffice on jds hopefully !) represents layers of software. from bottom to top, you have: hardware : either sparc, intel, or amd os : either solaris or linux a full length layer : java a full length layer : gnome But in the show room, nearly everybody knew that the demo of JDS has nearly nothing to do with Java ! just a little demo of their java player ( which is ugly ). Once again they "über market" the java brand ! Java has nearly disappeared from the internet as an applet technology ! Even if java has a hudge market share in the enterprise, I know several case, where the IT department face big problems, due to unmanaged deploiement of complex J2EE applications (usines à gaz in french) (I'm not flaming java here, the problem is "unmanaged" not java) . So the Java brand is not that good, and the good reference with respect to the Java brand are shifting from Sun to IBM. For instance, nearly every business developing stuff in Java are now using eclipse. The sales guy of Sun are still marketing NetBeans, I had to give him the reference of Eclipse.
Finally, my experience with respect to this roadshow and the chat with sales rep, is that they are frightened. JDS is a kind of cloud of smoke that tries to hide businesses migrating their oracle on solaris to oracle on a redhat cluster.
I don't know what are the job laws in South-Korea. But in most of European countries, theses SMS have probably no legal binding between employer and employees. The company still have to send some kind of registered letter "snail mail". Even if people are in strike and difficult to reach, I see no company advantage to send SMS to warn employees they are fired, they still need to send letters. And there effective dismissal starts when they receive there registered letter.
There's also an issue about SMS authentication, do you think these 161 recipients know their HR manager GSM number and are able to verify the author of the message ? Could be anyone sending you that message : "you are fired. signed J.M. KEB Credit Service HR Manager"
I spent some time looking for an opensource CRM and had a look to compiere. Being on Oracle was an issue, but being on java was another issue for my customer.
We are now looking to some more light weight alternatives like http://www.anteil.com/ . It's already based on free/open source databases and written in PHP.
Does anyone know other open sourced "light" CRM. Or a real experience on Anteil ?
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Too old to Rock 'n' Roll, too Young to give up royalties!
Give me something that's better than the (illegal) p2p-nets out there and I'll use it.
Go jamendo.
Jamendo is hunderds of Creative Commons licensed music albums available on BitTorrent and eMule/kad/ed2k networks, OGG and MP3 no DRM. The system is free for artists, free for music fans and ad supported. Very popular in french speaking countries.
Download, listen, share legally, pay if you wish.
Que veux-tu de plus ?
Give a try to jamendo.
jamendo is cool !
/. crowd is not aware.
it's more than 1100 complete albums : CC licenced, BitTorrent distributed, MP3 and OGG encoded, you pay if you want to thank great artists.
It's growing by 10 new albums per day, mainly european music, sad to see that
P2P + CC + donations ?
Well that's Jamendo !
There are 270+ complete albums on Jamendo ! All delivered under a Creative Commons Licence using BitTorrent.
http://www.jamendo.com/
Do they have applied a discount for all the P2P users getting legit content from :
c tion=opensource_audio ....
http://www.jamendo.com/
or
http://www.archive.org/audio/collection.php?colle
or
http://www.legaltorrents.com/
or
http://bt.etree.org/
or
http://torrents.gentoo.org/
or
http://www.debian.org/CD/torrent-cd/
or
See a list of legitimate content at the end of this page :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BitTorrent
Jamendo distributes music under Creative Commons Licence using BitTorrent.
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It's legal, it's Peer2peer, it's BitTorrent, and most important, it's good music !
Today most of the content is french speaking pop/rock, the system is free, is open to other artists.
http://www.jamendo.com/index.php?langs=en
some english speaking content
http://www.jamendo.com/index.php?p=music&g=all&l=
Do your own survey !
...
... In the 15-25 age rank, I see a 0% market share for iTunes, nearly 100% eMule. in the range 25-35, I have a 10% market share for iTunes. And the ones that are iTunes users are also downloading content using a P2P client like Limewire.
Do a sample pool around you
How many people around you are iTunes customers, how many are P2P users
So I don't buy this study, they compare iTunes trafic with web site that allow the download of a software, not the content.
LegalTorrents, Torrentocracy, Prodigem, bt.etree ...
See previous story
Try indy music, using your favorite BitTorrent client to download legal content. It will be harder for the trafic police to stop BitTorrent as a general infriging technology.
You mean this case for instance ?
Thanks for the reference, but uuh no, there's nothing formal, no strict guarantee that for instance a polish band that uploads its CD on jamendo hasn't copied the music from the latest bresilian hit. How could we guarantee ? Moderation is a mean to reduce this kind of problem, to avoid obvious cases. Like other website (eBay) we may always exclude bands when there is a problem.
*** Disclaimer : I'm one of the founder of Jamendo ***
/. thread, sorry about this, I can't resist explaining what we're doing here in Luxembourg.
...
/. crowd to present our project in this thread, but I really felt it was on topic ! So if you want to listen to indy music coming from Luxembourg, Belgium and North of France point your favorite BitTorrent client to jamendo.
Reading this
We started jamendo beginning of 2005. The aim of Jamendo is to help artists use P2P technologies and particulary BitTorrent to get to a larger audience. We combine Creative Commons Licence with BitTorrent to have artists publish their work, and promote a legal use of BitTorrent or eMule or Shareaza or
Thanks to our jamloader , artists put their demo CD in their PC/Mac/Linux and automagically their work get published as a torrent on jamendo and accessible with eMule. The software rips the CD to FLAC, ask to choose one of the 6 creative commons licenses and uploads the datas to our servers. On our servers we do the rip in other various formats, Ogg, MP3, AAC, and do the creative commons watermarking. We also do some kind of community moderation, in order to avoid the ones that upload the latest Britney Spears or the ones that upload the latest neo-nazy band. Bands have to link back to our website from their official website as a control ( see godon for exemple )
Finally we use iRate as our core technology to do the rating of the music, and do intelligent propositions to our audience. Our XMLRPC-iRate server ( http://irate.jamendo.com/ ) supports the latest features of the iRate protocol but today, there's not enough client software, but we have the project to write our jamplayer that will combine iRate and BitTorrent and foxytunes.
What about the money ? Our business model differs from the one of magnatune for instance ( I quote magnatune because John Buckman made a very nice and cool entry in his blog, thanks again to him). We have a more ad-centric model were the service is free for the artists, is free for the audience, but the web pages are ad supported (no popup), the streamed music may be ad-supported up to 1 audio ad every 3 songs, the published archive in P2P networks are high quality archives with no ads. The idea is : bandwidth heavy is ad-supported, bandwidth friendly (i.e. BitTorrent) is ad-free ! We are not a label but rather a "community driven music hosting company" , we allow the bands to put their paypal button to receive donation on their jamendo page, jamendo takes no margin.
Sorry again
Laurent.
Mr. Krecke ... it's a man
Jeannot Krecké Luxembourg ministry of economy.
Pink Floyd - "Welcome to the machine"
To some extend they miss the point focusing on Linux only.
Firefox, OpenOffice on MS-Windows are very good mid term alternative on the road to the linux operating system.
Once a user is used to these FLOSS tools on MS-Windows, the cost of change towards Linux as the OS becomes marginal.
To easily generate web forms from any database, we are using PHP with the help of some powerful framework like Smarty and the ones coming from PEAR.
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In particular, have a look to QuickForm or to DB_DataObject_FormBuilder
You can find nice tutorials on these technologies
http://www.thelinuxconsultancy.co.uk/quickform.ht
http://www.sklar.com/talks/quickform-oscon2004
http://www.21st.de/downloads/rapidprototyping.pdf
With these frameworks, you begin to reach the productivity of RAD tools "à la" MS-Access PowerBuilder, FrameBuilder, and co . But still keeping the advantages of a web deploiement and the avantage of OSS.
Hope this helps.
or even better ?
c s&v:sources=Web&sourceid=Mozilla-search
http://vivisimo.com/search?query=browser+statisti
Why not use google ?
& sourceid=firefox&start=0&start=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8
http://www.google.com/search?q=browser+statistics
There will be less trafic jams because this bridge has been built to avoid a bottleneck on the highway from Clermond-Ferrand to Béziers. So Millau will no more be considered as a driver nightmare.
;)
It will generate tourism. Like other recent constructions, it will generate a lot of tourism for Millau. At least before it becomes the second highest bridge in the world
I was present at a JDS show here in europe. And I had a chat with some of their sales representatives.
:
Their sales guy are in a real channel conflict, they can't chat on their new JDS without at least saying once solaris ! They see JDS as a short term answer, before having their customer "upgrading" their JDS on Linux to a JDS on solaris. That's the strategy ! That's why they do not market the words GNU, Linux or GPL.
The other issue is the Java brand ! The slide show (staroffice on jds hopefully !) represents layers of software. from bottom to top, you have
hardware : either sparc, intel, or amd
os : either solaris or linux
a full length layer : java
a full length layer : gnome
But in the show room, nearly everybody knew that the demo of JDS has nearly nothing to do with Java ! just a little demo of their java player ( which is ugly ). Once again they "über market" the java brand ! Java has nearly disappeared from the internet as an applet technology ! Even if java has a hudge market share in the enterprise, I know several case, where the IT department face big problems, due to unmanaged deploiement of complex J2EE applications (usines à gaz in french) (I'm not flaming java here, the problem is "unmanaged" not java) . So the Java brand is not that good, and the good reference with respect to the Java brand are shifting from Sun to IBM. For instance, nearly every business developing stuff in Java are now using eclipse. The sales guy of Sun are still marketing NetBeans, I had to give him the reference of Eclipse.
Finally, my experience with respect to this roadshow and the chat with sales rep, is that they are frightened. JDS is a kind of cloud of smoke that tries to hide businesses migrating their oracle on solaris to oracle on a redhat cluster.
I don't know what are the job laws in South-Korea. But in most of European countries, theses SMS have probably no legal binding between employer and employees. The company still have to send some kind of registered letter "snail mail". Even if people are in strike and difficult to reach, I see no company advantage to send SMS to warn employees they are fired, they still need to send letters. And there effective dismissal starts when they receive there registered letter.
There's also an issue about SMS authentication, do you think these 161 recipients know their HR manager GSM number and are able to verify the author of the message ? Could be anyone sending you that message : "you are fired. signed J.M. KEB Credit Service HR Manager"
I spent some time looking for an opensource CRM and had a look to compiere. Being on Oracle was an issue, but being on java was another issue for my customer.
We are now looking to some more light weight alternatives like http://www.anteil.com/ . It's already based on free/open source databases and written in PHP.
Does anyone know other open sourced "light" CRM. Or a real experience on Anteil ?
I use Mozilla for the day to day browsing but I still have to use IE to access my online banking application.
I have been testing this software since a month with my colleague (that's 2 meters I know).
The other day, he received a "skype" call from a company specialized in ear headset.
VoIP unsollicited calls could probably become a major problem, since the telecom cost for tele-marketing company could be zero.
For sure, some solution will emerge. black lists, VoIPassassin ?