My thoughts exactly.
If I had any issue with modern Microsoft, It was the period in which they sat on XP and IE 6 and said "that's good enough". Their new stuff is solid.
What people never seem to mention, during his developer developers developers speech, the audience was really really into it. They were cheering for him. Sure it doesn't look good on YouTube, but I think he made his intended impact on the audience.
We actually have evidence of that in the case of j allard and the development of the Microsoft courier. Apparently the head of windows development was worried the device would compete with windows so he went to ballmer to have it torpedoed. Balmier wasn't sure, so he brought Billy gates in to mediate and he decided to play it safe. Which is a massive shame as the courier looked awesome.
It is becoming a classic way of insulting Australians who want their higher wages to mean something. Making twice as much money is meaningless when our retailers triple the cost of overseas. People, often people who work for companies that make a mint off of this price gouging, like to tell us to suck it up as we earn more. Which is a false equivalence as our dollar is near parity with the USA, we should be paying near the same cost for goods and services as Americans.
Have you used windows powershell? Lots of fun, very powerful. Will take bash style commands as well as windows style, supports a whole host of add ons. I got very pissed off when i read up on it, as this is the sort of crap Microsoft should be promoting about themselves.
No one answered my question, so I wiki'd you.
It seems like you have been pretty influential over the years, and I don't dislike user Linux. At the same time you seem to be much more of a moderate than RMS. So while I am sure your illness or passing would definitely be newsworthy I doubt people would have as much to say about you that wasn't positive.
And in another post on this very article I said that while I do not see eye to eye with the man, I do respect him as one of a pantheon of heroes who brought computing to where it is today. That of course does not mean that true negative points are removed from the discussion. Arguments can only be countered with fact, it is useless to say "but I don't like it therefore it shouldn't be discussed". And RMS himself would agree.
Civility is one thing, but as much as I may disagree with him, I choose to respect the man by respecting his ideals.
Also by turning my fingers into horns and yelling gnu across the warehouse.
That's all exciting, and yes I am totally jelly as my own coding abilities are less than what they should be.
But none of that addresses my point.
Non of what he says ever strikes me as logical, it always comes off as simple emotion. Like what a politician would say if they didn't have someone moderating every word. Also, a great deal of hubris. But I don't buy the argument that any of his views cone from pure logic. I am not bashing the guy, it just doesn't click together.
And yet you advocate for censorship, the opposite ideal of the man you wish to respect. As gandhi once said, I wish you stallmanites were more like your stallman.
I disagree. The illness/death of a celebrity should provoke a thoughtful discussion of that person. When Pavarotti died, I was part of a discussion about his life. I should have been tipped off that one of the other posters was all over him, but when I expressed my view (that while his music was beyond comparison, he was a pretty massive dick to everyone in his personal life, often publicly and that made him a bad person) and naturally I was yelled at for having no respect for the dead, which I don't believe should be relevant for the discussion of someones life. I think it is the same in this discussion, except it started off on a negative footing. People are here expressing their views and that is good. We shouldn't indulge in censorship just because of an illness, RMS wasn't a big fan of censorship.
As for me, while I don't see eye to eye with him on many issues I still respect him as part of the massive pantheon of heroes who got us to where we are today.
Really? Because a whole lot of what he says sounds very emotional. My guess would be that his early experiences with closed source code scarred him in some way that non aspergers people cannot understand. This is of course just my opinion.
Actually I am the opposite. I used to rage hard at them during the IE6/windows xp era that was fucking ridiculous. But I now acknowledge that their new products are steps in a direction away from that dinosaur.
Truly I think that some people around here only hate on vista/7 because their favorite operating systems could compete against xp, but are having a tougher time with their new gear.
Well there we go. You did it. You personally found the evidence that Microsoft wants money and market share. Fantastic, now we can prosecute them, because making profit is a crime. Now we can get on with our lives, using products from apple, oracle and google. None of whom even like money. Apple didn't have any for years. And google freely gives out market share to any small business that asks. Thank you Internet super hero, for without you none of this was possible.
Let me explain, I think we should let them because the precedent would allow meta search firms to copyright stuff they stole off of google as long as it is fair use. Which would probably sound a wakeup call to all of these companies copyrighting everything possible that if they change the rules to suit themselves, they also have to play by those rules.
I think we should let them. We have precedent in regards to look and feel, so that isn't an issues. So what are they trying to copyright? If someone was to sue google for taking content off of their website and using it in a search results page, google would claim fair use. So google wants to claim the order of a list of fair use snippets and links as intellectual property. That does not bode well.
What has become of the humble glossary?
The Nazi child pornographers must be having a tough time picking a side in this debate.
Only sith deal in absolutes.
C# and XNA are fabulous tools. They do their platform a great service by making development easier. Wish I could say the same for apple.
My thoughts exactly. If I had any issue with modern Microsoft, It was the period in which they sat on XP and IE 6 and said "that's good enough". Their new stuff is solid.
What people never seem to mention, during his developer developers developers speech, the audience was really really into it. They were cheering for him. Sure it doesn't look good on YouTube, but I think he made his intended impact on the audience.
We actually have evidence of that in the case of j allard and the development of the Microsoft courier. Apparently the head of windows development was worried the device would compete with windows so he went to ballmer to have it torpedoed. Balmier wasn't sure, so he brought Billy gates in to mediate and he decided to play it safe. Which is a massive shame as the courier looked awesome.
It is becoming a classic way of insulting Australians who want their higher wages to mean something. Making twice as much money is meaningless when our retailers triple the cost of overseas. People, often people who work for companies that make a mint off of this price gouging, like to tell us to suck it up as we earn more. Which is a false equivalence as our dollar is near parity with the USA, we should be paying near the same cost for goods and services as Americans.
Have you used windows powershell? Lots of fun, very powerful. Will take bash style commands as well as windows style, supports a whole host of add ons. I got very pissed off when i read up on it, as this is the sort of crap Microsoft should be promoting about themselves.
No one answered my question, so I wiki'd you. It seems like you have been pretty influential over the years, and I don't dislike user Linux. At the same time you seem to be much more of a moderate than RMS. So while I am sure your illness or passing would definitely be newsworthy I doubt people would have as much to say about you that wasn't positive.
And in another post on this very article I said that while I do not see eye to eye with the man, I do respect him as one of a pantheon of heroes who brought computing to where it is today. That of course does not mean that true negative points are removed from the discussion. Arguments can only be countered with fact, it is useless to say "but I don't like it therefore it shouldn't be discussed". And RMS himself would agree.
Civility is one thing, but as much as I may disagree with him, I choose to respect the man by respecting his ideals. Also by turning my fingers into horns and yelling gnu across the warehouse.
That's all exciting, and yes I am totally jelly as my own coding abilities are less than what they should be. But none of that addresses my point. Non of what he says ever strikes me as logical, it always comes off as simple emotion. Like what a politician would say if they didn't have someone moderating every word. Also, a great deal of hubris. But I don't buy the argument that any of his views cone from pure logic. I am not bashing the guy, it just doesn't click together.
Nope nobody will be talking about me if I had a heart attack, and I assume that extends to anyone posting on slashdot.
And yet you advocate for censorship, the opposite ideal of the man you wish to respect. As gandhi once said, I wish you stallmanites were more like your stallman.
Why? Did you do something noteworthy?
Why censor truth? A whole lot of slashdotters have pointed out his reasoning in those cases, no harm done. Yet somehow it still offends you?
I disagree. The illness/death of a celebrity should provoke a thoughtful discussion of that person. When Pavarotti died, I was part of a discussion about his life. I should have been tipped off that one of the other posters was all over him, but when I expressed my view (that while his music was beyond comparison, he was a pretty massive dick to everyone in his personal life, often publicly and that made him a bad person) and naturally I was yelled at for having no respect for the dead, which I don't believe should be relevant for the discussion of someones life. I think it is the same in this discussion, except it started off on a negative footing. People are here expressing their views and that is good. We shouldn't indulge in censorship just because of an illness, RMS wasn't a big fan of censorship. As for me, while I don't see eye to eye with him on many issues I still respect him as part of the massive pantheon of heroes who got us to where we are today.
Really? Because a whole lot of what he says sounds very emotional. My guess would be that his early experiences with closed source code scarred him in some way that non aspergers people cannot understand. This is of course just my opinion.
I hope no one gave him a parrot.
Actually I am the opposite. I used to rage hard at them during the IE6 /windows xp era that was fucking ridiculous. But I now acknowledge that their new products are steps in a direction away from that dinosaur.
Truly I think that some people around here only hate on vista/7 because their favorite operating systems could compete against xp, but are having a tougher time with their new gear.
Someone posts a Microsoft article and all the GNU/Linux astroturfers come out.
Well there we go. You did it. You personally found the evidence that Microsoft wants money and market share. Fantastic, now we can prosecute them, because making profit is a crime. Now we can get on with our lives, using products from apple, oracle and google. None of whom even like money. Apple didn't have any for years. And google freely gives out market share to any small business that asks. Thank you Internet super hero, for without you none of this was possible.
Let me explain, I think we should let them because the precedent would allow meta search firms to copyright stuff they stole off of google as long as it is fair use. Which would probably sound a wakeup call to all of these companies copyrighting everything possible that if they change the rules to suit themselves, they also have to play by those rules.
I think we should let them. We have precedent in regards to look and feel, so that isn't an issues. So what are they trying to copyright? If someone was to sue google for taking content off of their website and using it in a search results page, google would claim fair use. So google wants to claim the order of a list of fair use snippets and links as intellectual property. That does not bode well.