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I've always supported the Labor part becuase I've never thought the Librals had what it takes to govern in the second half of the 20th century, let alone the next. As for the Nationals!! Wow!! Lets ride our way out of this on the sheep's back again.
ANYWAY....
Having said that, apparently the government is putting a bill foward that will give us opt out rights for databases like this.
As an Australian, I think I have some right to request this.
Please, please, please write articles that portray us as idiots, not only on this issue, but especially on the who internet censorship thing.
Usually, Austrlians like to think of ourselves as pretty practical people, who don't put up with bullshit, and are honest enough with ourselves to admit we listen to what others have to say.
If people start writing stories saying how dumb some of our recent technical decisions have been, the media here will pick up on it.
Just buying Sendmail & Cygnus does not give Redhat the copyright to the work, becuase it has contributions from other (non-employee) people. If the don't own the work, they can't change the copyright.
Microsoft is a very successful software company. They have a significant lead in the production of commercial software, and believe that any increase in the size of any computer driven market can only be good for Microsoft.
MS wants to sell its software in non-US countries as cheaply as possible, and having no tariffs helps that.
To take a real-world example: Australian (and NZ) farmers produce cheap, high quality lambs which are exported to the US and are still cheaper than (subsidised) US farmers can produce lambs. The US farmers argue for a tariff on lambs (which they get), while the Australians are trying to get the WTO to declare the tariff illegal.
I bet the Americans among us are saying "Great work by the govenment - saving US jobs", but stop and consider - it is also making lamb meat more expensive for you. Shouldn't we let market forces decide it?
Yesterday, in the story about John Carmack there was someone pretending to be John Carmack & getting moderated up.
The otherday, (The sourceforge story) someone said something bad about Chris DiBone (sp?) from VA, and someone called Chris DiBone replied in a very inflamatory manner, and got moderated up.
I do blame the moderators for this, but there is not way of checking if these people are for real - maybe IP addresses should be posted with logged in users, unless they check a box that says "Do not post IP address"....
Your point is that Intel wants to sell more Intel chips, right? Duh!
The don't really care if Windows or anything else runs on it.
They fact is that Linux on Intel runs very well, thankyou very much!
Sure, AMD is making big improvements, but they don't have a great choice in motherboards yet, and they aren't that much cheaper than Intel at the same performace level - and Intel can do better multiprocessing (because of the motherboard situation) at the moment.
Maybe one day that IBM PowerPC standard will make an impact, but until then for Price/Performance Intel kicks butt.
Mercard will be nice, too - when it arrives. It will be cheap because of the huge number that will be produced, and Intel needs Linux to run on it quickly so they can get a lot of early adopters to use (and test!) it.
Even Colbolt is leaving MIPS to move to Intel because of the better performance for the money.
Sure, we want hardware choice, but don't get mad at Intel for making pretty good products and trying to sell them. (PIII serial number excluded, of course)
Why are there different laws for foreign Govenments and foreign private use?
That has got to be one of the most stupid things I've ever heard of, even compared to the stupidity of the laws at the moment.
A (non-US) country's citizens are allowed to buy strong crypto, but that govenment isn't???
Maybe (and this maybe wayyyyy wrong) foreign govenments might not like that much?
If anything, this is going to encourage non-US software companies to enter the crypto market.
Imagine this: Network Associates spends millions of $'s on a big advertising campaign in Europe, so some govenment department decides they need strong crypto.
They head down to the local computer shop with a nice $10 Mil to equip all their offices only to be told "Sorry - you are govenment, we can't sell this to you, because it made in the US"
"Oh no! I've got this $10 Mil for strong crypto software. How can I use it?"
"Well... there is this local company.. it is crappy bit of software, but we can sell it to you"
So the govenment buys CrappySoft Encrypter, and CrappySoft then enters the US market, with a nice claim "We are the official supplier to a million European govenment workers" - what US company can boast that?
If you send something via FedEx, do you expect to have it read?
Of course, that is slightly different, because in that case, your parcel is sealed, and FedEx would have top breck that seal. Now, at least, it is obvious that an email has the same protection - this decision (it seems to me) means that your ISP must get your permission to read it, even to diagnose network faults.
Yes, this is slightly unrealistic for plaintext emails, but the point is that now you have a degree of protection against unauthorised reading of emails.
When you send email from work, that is different - by using the work facilities, you are acting as an agent of your company, and which means that all access to your emails is handled by company policy - in the same way a company can make a rule about its employees not reading thing in other peoples offices.
PS: I'm not a lawyer, so basically I made all this up. It might be somewhat correct, though.
Unfortunatly, the Delphi compiler is not Open-Sourced, and is to be released under a commercial licence - neither BSD or (L)GPL or any other Open Source licence,
Borland (Inprise) can release their product under any licence they like (provided it is under legal terms) and for any platform - provided they don't violate the terms of anything on that platform.
The BSD/GPL non-compatitbility only come into play whe the non-original authors want to change the licence, anyway. If Diga wanted to release their drivers under the BSD licence they could, because they own the code - but if anyone else tried it they would be in breach of the GPL.
I remember reading a Wired interview with the PG founder back in '96 or '97.
They were talking about how movies were begining to come out of their copyright period, and how he wanted to make a public domain MPG of "Gone with the Wind" before he died.
I'm not quite sure what the copyright status of early (say, pre-WW2) movies is, now. Anyone?
I've been reading PG books since I've been on the net ('94) and I think they have got to be one of the most important resources available.
People discount PG by saying thing like "Oh, you can get free texts anywhere" and "Books are outdated, anyway".
Well, imagine happening without PG: Copyright laws are changed so that copyright does not run out after 30 years (or whatever it is) - and this is what the film lobby wants.
Then, in 10 years or so, a law is made giving ownership of texts that have become public domain back to the decendents of their owners, who then seel them to film companies or amazon.com
These companies decide that they only want to sell paper-books, and the demand for some titles is so low that you have to get a special publishing run for them.
Then a some books get banned for being sexist/sexy/racist/communist or whatever, and you can no longer get them - period!
Books - or at least the text of then is the life blood of civilisation - and PG is something that is making this freely (as in speach) available to all.
Support it!
PS:yes, I know the scenerio above wasn't real, and I know "the internet changes everything", but in 5 years, when you are reading "Sherlock Holmes" on your Palm XX, you can thank Project Gutenburg for keeping it free.
It appears this cluster is for development of open-source software. That is amazing - I doubt there are many computers in the world that are more powerful than this and used for software development.
Almost all the super-clusters like this one are used for energy research, weather forcasting, and other scientific research (and of course "classified purposes").
I guess they will be developing super powerful scientific anaylasis applications, but I do wonder what exactly. I mean, isn't half the problem with this type of application developing the algorithms for weather forecasting (or whatever) in the first place?
I suppose they can develop some kind of supercomputer infrastrucure that would be useful in all type of supercomputer applications. (PVM?)
A highly scalable image rendering package would be pretty cool, too.
Kim Stanley Robinson, Larry Niven, Orson Scott Card, and Poul Anderson all write SF that has it's roots in the 50's work, and already have the depth of work that means they will be read for a long time yet.
Stephenson and Gibson take SF places it never went before, even in the weirdest writing of Dick.
Don't worry, there are plenty of great authors out there. Crime fiction didn't die with Agatha Christie, and SF has got a lot more potential than that.
The 50's authors will always be read, but in 30 years, we'll look back on the Golden Age of '90's SF and wonder who could ever replace them.
I'm sorry, but that post is just so wrong it is laughable. If you had found some site that ran NT and was faster than Slashdot (not hard to do) you would be flamed out of existance.
Where to start?
Slashdot does use multiple webserver - it caches static pages, and
Slashdot does not use Oracle it uses MySQL. Big difference in websites.
"The response time is always good" ????? Not from where I am (Australia) it isn't. Subjectivly, dvdexpress seemed faster to me. Anyway, what does that prove? You are closer to Slashdot than dvdexpress? Slashdot has more bandwidth?
Dvd is graphic intensive, and takes longer to render in Netscape, too.
You can't compare two totally dissimilar sites, on totally different hardware.
I bet I can find apache sites that seem slower than NT/IIS sites. EG: www.Apache.org always seems very slow to me. What does that prove? NOTHING!!!!
Look, I want Linux to be faster than NT as much as anyone, but we can't even be seen trying to spread FUD like MS does. Imagine if MS stuck that up at Comdex as by "a Linux Hacker, posting on the Linux nerd site slashdot.org".
People, please think for a moment before you post, and before you moderate comments like that up. Ask yourself this:
If this was posted on www.microsoft.com, and it was an arguement for NT rather than Linux, would we have trouble disputing it?
Reader of Slashdot don't need to see arguments for Linux like this, we need to see the opposing view, so we can learn what we need to improve.
Damn.. I just know this will kill my karma, but that is crazy!
Ray Bradbury is one of the original band of SciFi authors who defined the genre in the late '40s and early '50s.
Along with Asimov, Heinlem (sp?), Clark, and maybe Philip K. Dick (who am I missing here?), Bradbury pushed story telling to placed it had never been before.
He was probabably never as optimistic as Asimov or Clark, - he always seemed a little dark, especially compared to other 1950s stories (except, of course for PK Dicks work).
For instance (from the Amazon review of his best known work Fahrenheit 451):
First published in 1953, Fahrenheit 451 is a classic novel set in the future when books forbidden by a totalitarian regime are burned. The hero, a book burner, suddenly discovers that books are flesh and blood ideas that cry out silently when put to the torch.
For those of you who think SciFi that makes you scared of humanity began with Gibson, go an read something like The Martian Chronicles. These were written in the 1940's and yet talk about things that no one else was talking about until the 1960s - things like the potential negative impact of human civilisation.
I'll never, ever forget the haunting story (I think it was from this book) about the last surviving martian, hunted over his planet by a man with a big gun, having seen his civiliastion wiped out in his lifetime.
Get well soon, Mr Bradbury - you deserve to live to see Mars.
First, to CNN: Pretty good article - you gave a very balanced view of the issues.
However:
Why does everyone persist in calling this "hacking". Sure, it was hacking in the traditional (computer) sense of the word, but surely, now days, that word has bad overtones.
Perhaps it wouls be more appropriate to play up the reverse engineering aspect of this. Is it illegal for a non licenced manufacturer to design and sell replacement door panels for your car? Of course not! What the manufactures of those door panels do is exactly the same as what these people did.
Yes, they had to break some (pretty weak, and bungled) encryption, but is that any different from the door manufacture not releasing the specifications of a special bolt needed to attach the door to the car? Not really - and it was perfectly legal to do.
These people weren't trying to pirate movies, they weren't trying to steal national secrets, all they were trying to do was allow people to watch the movies they had legally bought, on a player they had legally bought.
This is no different from trying to get one of those programmable remotes to work with your VCR. Do you think the manufactures (originally, at least) gave out the codes for those remotes? People had to work them out by taking them to bits, checking the chip types and reverse engineering them. Does anyone complain about that? No! They just think is is stupid the manufactures didn't make it easier to do in the first place.
Netscape (the company) is dying - not just because of the corporate clash with AOL, but because they just don't have the technology.
The shipping Navigator is second rate compared to IE5, and who uses a Netscape server these days? For webservers, it's IIS vs Apache, and for application servers, the Netscape one has such a bad reputation that people are dumping it for anything else.
There is still the Netscape name, though, and that is worth a huge amount. Everybody has heard of Netscape, if only they could find a way to use that!
AOL should spin an E-Technology company off and give it the Netscape name - they would make billions! The value of AOL stock has nothing to do with Netscape, but if there was a relaunch of Netscape, with some valid technology it would rock - hell, they could sell support for Apache or something.
Forget this stuipid I-Planet thing. When did you ever hear anyone from Sun talking about that?
The game isn't over for Netscape, not by a long way, but I think it's future lies in technology, not services & portals.
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I've always supported the Labor part becuase I've never thought the Librals had what it takes to govern in the second half of the 20th century, let alone the next. As for the Nationals!! Wow!! Lets ride our way out of this on the sheep's back again.
ANYWAY....
Having said that, apparently the government is putting a bill foward that will give us opt out rights for databases like this.
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As an Australian, I think I have some right to request this.
Please, please, please write articles that portray us as idiots, not only on this issue, but especially on the who internet censorship thing.
Usually, Austrlians like to think of ourselves as pretty practical people, who don't put up with bullshit, and are honest enough with ourselves to admit we listen to what others have to say.
If people start writing stories saying how dumb some of our recent technical decisions have been, the media here will pick up on it.
Please help.. if you need ideas, email me.
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Moderate this down!
Just buying Sendmail & Cygnus does not give Redhat the copyright to the work, becuase it has contributions from other (non-employee) people. If the don't own the work, they can't change the copyright.
It's as simple as that.
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Microsoft is a very successful software company. They have a significant lead in the production of commercial software, and believe that any increase in the size of any computer driven market can only be good for Microsoft.
MS wants to sell its software in non-US countries as cheaply as possible, and having no tariffs helps that.
To take a real-world example: Australian (and NZ) farmers produce cheap, high quality lambs which are exported to the US and are still cheaper than (subsidised) US farmers can produce lambs. The US farmers argue for a tariff on lambs (which they get), while the Australians are trying to get the WTO to declare the tariff illegal.
I bet the Americans among us are saying "Great work by the govenment - saving US jobs", but stop and consider - it is also making lamb meat more expensive for you. Shouldn't we let market forces decide it?
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Sorry for the spelling error.. It was a mistype.
Your point about running IA32 code is good, but invalid here - we have the code, don't forget!
As for Mercad being only for servers - maybe for the first year, but not much after that.
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That is exactly what I mean - and if Netowrk Associates can't sell their stuff anyway, that helps even more.
I'm not from the US, BTW
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Unless you already know their PGP signature, what is the use of them posting one?
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Maybe you are right, but I'd like to see the source - otherwise I might suspect you are just making this up.
Anyway, Intel sued MB manufactures for making multiprocessing MB? One word Why? You can't just sue someone, you know - you do need a reason.
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Yesterday, in the story about John Carmack there was someone pretending to be John Carmack & getting moderated up.
The otherday, (The sourceforge story) someone said something bad about Chris DiBone (sp?) from VA, and someone called Chris DiBone replied in a very inflamatory manner, and got moderated up.
I do blame the moderators for this, but there is not way of checking if these people are for real - maybe IP addresses should be posted with logged in users, unless they check a box that says "Do not post IP address"....
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Your point is that Intel wants to sell more Intel chips, right? Duh!
The don't really care if Windows or anything else runs on it.
They fact is that Linux on Intel runs very well, thankyou very much!
Sure, AMD is making big improvements, but they don't have a great choice in motherboards yet, and they aren't that much cheaper than Intel at the same performace level - and Intel can do better multiprocessing (because of the motherboard situation) at the moment.
Maybe one day that IBM PowerPC standard will make an impact, but until then for Price/Performance Intel kicks butt.
Mercard will be nice, too - when it arrives. It will be cheap because of the huge number that will be produced, and Intel needs Linux to run on it quickly so they can get a lot of early adopters to use (and test!) it.
Even Colbolt is leaving MIPS to move to Intel because of the better performance for the money.
Sure, we want hardware choice, but don't get mad at Intel for making pretty good products and trying to sell them. (PIII serial number excluded, of course)
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Why are there different laws for foreign Govenments and foreign private use?
That has got to be one of the most stupid things I've ever heard of, even compared to the stupidity of the laws at the moment.
A (non-US) country's citizens are allowed to buy strong crypto, but that govenment isn't???
Maybe (and this maybe wayyyyy wrong) foreign govenments might not like that much?
If anything, this is going to encourage non-US software companies to enter the crypto market.
Imagine this: Network Associates spends millions of $'s on a big advertising campaign in Europe, so some govenment department decides they need strong crypto.
They head down to the local computer shop with a nice $10 Mil to equip all their offices only to be told "Sorry - you are govenment, we can't sell this to you, because it made in the US"
"Oh no! I've got this $10 Mil for strong crypto software. How can I use it?"
"Well... there is this local company.. it is crappy bit of software, but we can sell it to you"
So the govenment buys CrappySoft Encrypter, and CrappySoft then enters the US market, with a nice claim "We are the official supplier to a million European govenment workers" - what US company can boast that?
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If you send something via FedEx, do you expect to have it read?
Of course, that is slightly different, because in that case, your parcel is sealed, and FedEx would have top breck that seal. Now, at least, it is obvious that an email has the same protection - this decision (it seems to me) means that your ISP must get your permission to read it, even to diagnose network faults.
Yes, this is slightly unrealistic for plaintext emails, but the point is that now you have a degree of protection against unauthorised reading of emails.
When you send email from work, that is different - by using the work facilities, you are acting as an agent of your company, and which means that all access to your emails is handled by company policy - in the same way a company can make a rule about its employees not reading thing in other peoples offices.
PS: I'm not a lawyer, so basically I made all this up. It might be somewhat correct, though.
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Unfortunatly, the Delphi compiler is not Open-Sourced, and is to be released under a commercial licence - neither BSD or (L)GPL or any other Open Source licence,
Borland (Inprise) can release their product under any licence they like (provided it is under legal terms) and for any platform - provided they don't violate the terms of anything on that platform.
The BSD/GPL non-compatitbility only come into play whe the non-original authors want to change the licence, anyway. If Diga wanted to release their drivers under the BSD licence they could, because they own the code - but if anyone else tried it they would be in breach of the GPL.
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Oh... wait a sec.. yeah, I guess that isn't actually that off topic for this story... Sorry All!!
Oh well... First Post, then? :-)
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I remember reading a Wired interview with the PG founder back in '96 or '97.
They were talking about how movies were begining to come out of their copyright period, and how he wanted to make a public domain MPG of "Gone with the Wind" before he died.
I'm not quite sure what the copyright status of early (say, pre-WW2) movies is, now. Anyone?
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I've been reading PG books since I've been on the net ('94) and I think they have got to be one of the most important resources available.
People discount PG by saying thing like "Oh, you can get free texts anywhere" and "Books are outdated, anyway".
Well, imagine happening without PG: Copyright laws are changed so that copyright does not run out after 30 years (or whatever it is) - and this is what the film lobby wants.
Then, in 10 years or so, a law is made giving ownership of texts that have become public domain back to the decendents of their owners, who then seel them to film companies or amazon.com
These companies decide that they only want to sell paper-books, and the demand for some titles is so low that you have to get a special publishing run for them.
Then a some books get banned for being sexist/sexy/racist/communist or whatever, and you can no longer get them - period!
Books - or at least the text of then is the life blood of civilisation - and PG is something that is making this freely (as in speach) available to all.
Support it!
PS:yes, I know the scenerio above wasn't real, and I know "the internet changes everything", but in 5 years, when you are reading "Sherlock Holmes" on your Palm XX, you can thank Project Gutenburg for keeping it free.
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The first person to find out anything about Transmeta that they didn't want everyone to know
At least I don't feel so stupid any more.
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Sorry - I know they are shown on the screen. Stupid IE4 wasn't showing the filenames up in the "have been viewed" color.
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Contents are (Unformatted, sorry!):
Rethought.gif = "We rethought the microprocessor to create a whole new world of mobility"
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It appears this cluster is for development of open-source software. That is amazing - I doubt there are many computers in the world that are more powerful than this and used for software development.
Almost all the super-clusters like this one are used for energy research, weather forcasting, and other scientific research (and of course "classified purposes").
I guess they will be developing super powerful scientific anaylasis applications, but I do wonder what exactly. I mean, isn't half the problem with this type of application developing the algorithms for weather forecasting (or whatever) in the first place?
I suppose they can develop some kind of supercomputer infrastrucure that would be useful in all type of supercomputer applications. (PVM?)
A highly scalable image rendering package would be pretty cool, too.
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Kim Stanley Robinson, Larry Niven, Orson Scott Card, and Poul Anderson all write SF that has it's roots in the 50's work, and already have the depth of work that means they will be read for a long time yet.
Stephenson and Gibson take SF places it never went before, even in the weirdest writing of Dick.
Don't worry, there are plenty of great authors out there. Crime fiction didn't die with Agatha Christie, and SF has got a lot more potential than that.
The 50's authors will always be read, but in 30 years, we'll look back on the Golden Age of '90's SF and wonder who could ever replace them.
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I'm sorry, but that post is just so wrong it is laughable. If you had found some site that ran NT and was faster than Slashdot (not hard to do) you would be flamed out of existance.
Where to start?
Slashdot does use multiple webserver - it caches static pages, and
Slashdot does not use Oracle it uses MySQL. Big difference in websites.
"The response time is always good" ????? Not from where I am (Australia) it isn't. Subjectivly, dvdexpress seemed faster to me. Anyway, what does that prove? You are closer to Slashdot than dvdexpress? Slashdot has more bandwidth?
Dvd is graphic intensive, and takes longer to render in Netscape, too.
You can't compare two totally dissimilar sites, on totally different hardware.
I bet I can find apache sites that seem slower than NT/IIS sites. EG: www.Apache.org always seems very slow to me. What does that prove? NOTHING!!!!
Look, I want Linux to be faster than NT as much as anyone, but we can't even be seen trying to spread FUD like MS does. Imagine if MS stuck that up at Comdex as by "a Linux Hacker, posting on the Linux nerd site slashdot.org".
People, please think for a moment before you post, and before you moderate comments like that up. Ask yourself this:
Reader of Slashdot don't need to see arguments for Linux like this, we need to see the opposing view, so we can learn what we need to improve.
Damn.. I just know this will kill my karma, but that is crazy!
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Ray Bradbury is one of the original band of SciFi authors who defined the genre in the late '40s and early '50s.
Along with Asimov, Heinlem (sp?), Clark, and maybe Philip K. Dick (who am I missing here?), Bradbury pushed story telling to placed it had never been before.
He was probabably never as optimistic as Asimov or Clark, - he always seemed a little dark, especially compared to other 1950s stories (except, of course for PK Dicks work).
For instance (from the Amazon review of his best known work Fahrenheit 451):
For those of you who think SciFi that makes you scared of humanity began with Gibson, go an read something like The Martian Chronicles. These were written in the 1940's and yet talk about things that no one else was talking about until the 1960s - things like the potential negative impact of human civilisation.
I'll never, ever forget the haunting story (I think it was from this book) about the last surviving martian, hunted over his planet by a man with a big gun, having seen his civiliastion wiped out in his lifetime.
Get well soon, Mr Bradbury - you deserve to live to see Mars.
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First, to CNN: Pretty good article - you gave a very balanced view of the issues.
However:
Why does everyone persist in calling this "hacking". Sure, it was hacking in the traditional (computer) sense of the word, but surely, now days, that word has bad overtones.
Perhaps it wouls be more appropriate to play up the reverse engineering aspect of this. Is it illegal for a non licenced manufacturer to design and sell replacement door panels for your car? Of course not! What the manufactures of those door panels do is exactly the same as what these people did.
Yes, they had to break some (pretty weak, and bungled) encryption, but is that any different from the door manufacture not releasing the specifications of a special bolt needed to attach the door to the car? Not really - and it was perfectly legal to do.
These people weren't trying to pirate movies, they weren't trying to steal national secrets, all they were trying to do was allow people to watch the movies they had legally bought, on a player they had legally bought.
This is no different from trying to get one of those programmable remotes to work with your VCR. Do you think the manufactures (originally, at least) gave out the codes for those remotes? People had to work them out by taking them to bits, checking the chip types and reverse engineering them. Does anyone complain about that? No! They just think is is stupid the manufactures didn't make it easier to do in the first place.
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Netscape (the company) is dying - not just because of the corporate clash with AOL, but because they just don't have the technology.
The shipping Navigator is second rate compared to IE5, and who uses a Netscape server these days? For webservers, it's IIS vs Apache, and for application servers, the Netscape one has such a bad reputation that people are dumping it for anything else.
There is still the Netscape name, though, and that is worth a huge amount. Everybody has heard of Netscape, if only they could find a way to use that!
AOL should spin an E-Technology company off and give it the Netscape name - they would make billions! The value of AOL stock has nothing to do with Netscape, but if there was a relaunch of Netscape, with some valid technology it would rock - hell, they could sell support for Apache or something.
Forget this stuipid I-Planet thing. When did you ever hear anyone from Sun talking about that?
The game isn't over for Netscape, not by a long way, but I think it's future lies in technology, not services & portals.
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