Identify the lies. Mock them and make them the butt of jokes. Alex Jones is a joke. The funniest gifs online are of him and the evil conspiracy of pickle jars.
Then why is it only recently we have seen so many and such violence?
Yes, they can speak their views publicly in the street and we as a free society must allow it.
You are taking them seriously and they want to be taken seriously. You are legitimizing them. You are giving them purpose. You are becoming the monster you hate and hunt.
The nazi's were not your fellow citizens that you can arbitrary take away their rights. The rhetoric isn't "i'm goin to kill you" or else we would see criminal charges because threats of violence.
You are redefining what is a legal right and what isn't. Threats of violence and such are already illegal yet no one has been prosecuted because what they are saying isn't threats of violence. Do you have the same complaint when people advocate white genocide? Because it's there, it's fashionable, and it's accepted.
I'm a nazi apologist? Do I get the bullet too? FFS, you have no self awareness.
You are right. We need a solution to all these racists, sexists, homophobic, and transphobic sub human garbage... A final solution to put the issue to an end once and for all for the preservation of the society. I think we first should force them to wear some sort of symbol as to be easily identified to be punched on sight.
Can AT&T deny an actual neo-nazi access to a phone line? Either the internet is necessary for modern convenience and must be protected as such or it isn't which makes the arguments for net neutrality very weak.
No. You do not take away someones rights because you don't like their message. Anyone can stand on the street corner advocating for any bullshit they want. No one has the right to take away their right to advocate for such bullshit.
In short, you are the problem because you want to take away someones rights with violence. You are becoming the monster you hated and hunted.
They also complain about anti white rhetoric that is fashionable and accepted today.
There is a video of them marching chanting "You will not replace us." while the other side chanted "anti-white". You get cheers when people state the fact that the US will be majority non white. When you have politicians like Sally Brown saying her job is to shut white people down. When you have Twitter allow calls for white genocide. It's easy to see why there are so many white supremacists coming out of the wood work. Because it's accepted to be racist against white and it looks coordinated from politicians, media, and activists.
I honestly don't give a shit but the hypocrisy is palpable. All forms of hatred should not be encouraged.
It doesn't matter if they were nazi's or not. They have every right to assemble and protest peacefully. The government illegally revoked their right to protest. The mayor ordered the police to stand down and when the left counter protestors came violence was the result.
I don't agree with the ACLU all the time but I have more respect for them by filing the lawsuit on the groups behalf because of the actions taken by the government. Being a nazi doesn't mean you lose your rights. It doesn't mean that the government should allow others to take away your rights. And it certainly doesn't mean that others can use violence against you if you are peaceful*.
* I don't know who started the violence and honestly it doesn't matter at this point. I have heard it was started by both sides and when shit like this happens it's nearly impossible to know for certain. What does matter is that the police were ordered to stand down and allowed the violence to occur in the first place.
Actually, you can discriminate based on religion in Colorado because the state ignores the federal law. Hopefully, the civil suits bring fairness back and forces the courts to uphold the law.
You do refute them. You let them speak. You make fun of them and their position. You make them a joke. You don't legitimize them with no-platform, censorship, and violence.
He condemned hatred on both sides because there is racism and hatred on both sides. The only reason why there has been this reassurance of white supremacy is because white racism is fashionable and the left have been "feeding the trolls" so to speak.
Censoring, no platforming, and violently protesting legitimizes anyone.
Yet, AT&T can't deny a phone line to a nazi. I keep hearing in the net neutrality threads that the internet is necessary for modern participation. If that is true then you have to have the same protections.
Hate speech is not illegal. There is no such thing as hate speech. The nazi's and racists have ever right to voice their dumb opinion. When you actively silence them you legitimize them.
The only (slight) worry I have over this is that such sites will start burrowing into the Dark Web, where the general public cannot see and ridicule them for what they are
This. What ever happened to allowing racists to speak openly and mock them for it and prove their points wrong with facts and evidence? They are taken seriously now which is what they want. To be taken seriously.
Because we have idiot politicians that tell the police to not intervene. Both in Berkeley and in Charlotesville. If the cops were allowed to keep the two groups separate and put down any violence before it erupts into a mob scene we wouldn't have this shit so common.
If I'm flying over an Amazonian tribe you better believe I can convey a message to them regardless of any differences in our technology levels. Surely they can send out a communications blast that would be picked up on radio.
Let me give you a better analogy.
You have two ants on the beach, one in California and one in China. Each threw a small piece of Styrofoam (or other floating material) into the Pacific ocean and waited a year( long time for average ant lifespans). The chances of not only seeing the message and understanding it but also able to distinguish it from the background noise (Pacific garbage patch and all) are infinitesimally small as it is with space.
War is a pressure. If you don't have pressure you stagnate. War creates a necessity for an arms race that mimics evolutionary arms race. If there is no pressure for a species to evolve it won't as we see with many "living fossil's".
There are artificial pressures but that hasn't always been the case in human history. Would a hunter gatherer have any need for metallurgy?
The dinosaurs were evolutionary successful and lived for millions of years. Evolution doesn't favor intelligence but rather reproduction.
I think the Fermi Paradox is a thought experiment for humans to understand the odds of how we came about. Even if we aren't alone, we will most likely live out our existence without knowing becuase of the odds required for not only life but intelligent life able to traverse the cosmos.
Not only need a few generation of stars for heavy metals, not only int he right place of the galaxy, not only for the right planetary system to form, not only the right orbit for the planet, not only the right conditions for life, not only the right evolutionary pressure for intelligent life, and finally not only the time and technology required to understand how big the universe is and how fragile life is in the cosmos. This is just the few parameters to figuring the odds for intelligent life. The odds get better with more science but it's like saying 0.000000000000001 is better than 0.00000000000001.
It is a relevant point when you are talking about gender, sex and transgender. Are you saying that those topics should not be discussed in a corporate environment? I would agree (keep politics and religion out of work) but then it becomes an issue when those topics inform corporate policy.
If you cannot talk about what influences corporate policy, how can you honestly and accurately talk about changing corporate policy?
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Identify the lies. Mock them and make them the butt of jokes. Alex Jones is a joke. The funniest gifs online are of him and the evil conspiracy of pickle jars.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
How can anyone take someone like that seriously?
Then why is it only recently we have seen so many and such violence?
Yes, they can speak their views publicly in the street and we as a free society must allow it.
You are taking them seriously and they want to be taken seriously. You are legitimizing them. You are giving them purpose. You are becoming the monster you hate and hunt.
The nazi's were not your fellow citizens that you can arbitrary take away their rights. The rhetoric isn't "i'm goin to kill you" or else we would see criminal charges because threats of violence.
You are redefining what is a legal right and what isn't. Threats of violence and such are already illegal yet no one has been prosecuted because what they are saying isn't threats of violence. Do you have the same complaint when people advocate white genocide? Because it's there, it's fashionable, and it's accepted.
I'm a nazi apologist? Do I get the bullet too? FFS, you have no self awareness.
lynching citizens == war with foreign government.
You are right. We need a solution to all these racists, sexists, homophobic, and transphobic sub human garbage... A final solution to put the issue to an end once and for all for the preservation of the society. I think we first should force them to wear some sort of symbol as to be easily identified to be punched on sight.
Can AT&T deny an actual neo-nazi access to a phone line? Either the internet is necessary for modern convenience and must be protected as such or it isn't which makes the arguments for net neutrality very weak.
regalia of Nazism is not peaceful by default
No. You do not take away someones rights because you don't like their message. Anyone can stand on the street corner advocating for any bullshit they want. No one has the right to take away their right to advocate for such bullshit.
In short, you are the problem because you want to take away someones rights with violence. You are becoming the monster you hated and hunted.
They also complain about anti white rhetoric that is fashionable and accepted today.
There is a video of them marching chanting "You will not replace us." while the other side chanted "anti-white". You get cheers when people state the fact that the US will be majority non white. When you have politicians like Sally Brown saying her job is to shut white people down. When you have Twitter allow calls for white genocide. It's easy to see why there are so many white supremacists coming out of the wood work. Because it's accepted to be racist against white and it looks coordinated from politicians, media, and activists.
I honestly don't give a shit but the hypocrisy is palpable. All forms of hatred should not be encouraged.
It doesn't matter if they were nazi's or not. They have every right to assemble and protest peacefully. The government illegally revoked their right to protest. The mayor ordered the police to stand down and when the left counter protestors came violence was the result.
I don't agree with the ACLU all the time but I have more respect for them by filing the lawsuit on the groups behalf because of the actions taken by the government. Being a nazi doesn't mean you lose your rights. It doesn't mean that the government should allow others to take away your rights. And it certainly doesn't mean that others can use violence against you if you are peaceful*.
* I don't know who started the violence and honestly it doesn't matter at this point. I have heard it was started by both sides and when shit like this happens it's nearly impossible to know for certain. What does matter is that the police were ordered to stand down and allowed the violence to occur in the first place.
Actually, you can discriminate based on religion in Colorado because the state ignores the federal law. Hopefully, the civil suits bring fairness back and forces the courts to uphold the law.
https://www.washingtonpost.com...
You do refute them. You let them speak. You make fun of them and their position. You make them a joke. You don't legitimize them with no-platform, censorship, and violence.
He condemned hatred on both sides because there is racism and hatred on both sides. The only reason why there has been this reassurance of white supremacy is because white racism is fashionable and the left have been "feeding the trolls" so to speak.
Censoring, no platforming, and violently protesting legitimizes anyone.
Yet, AT&T can't deny a phone line to a nazi. I keep hearing in the net neutrality threads that the internet is necessary for modern participation. If that is true then you have to have the same protections.
Hate speech is not illegal. There is no such thing as hate speech. The nazi's and racists have ever right to voice their dumb opinion. When you actively silence them you legitimize them.
You legitimize someone when you no platform them.
The only (slight) worry I have over this is that such sites will start burrowing into the Dark Web, where the general public cannot see and ridicule them for what they are
This. What ever happened to allowing racists to speak openly and mock them for it and prove their points wrong with facts and evidence? They are taken seriously now which is what they want. To be taken seriously.
Can AT&T deny nazi's a phone line? Why do we allow nazi's to have phone lines?
They have been beating people up,
Because we have idiot politicians that tell the police to not intervene. Both in Berkeley and in Charlotesville. If the cops were allowed to keep the two groups separate and put down any violence before it erupts into a mob scene we wouldn't have this shit so common.
You mean bike lock. You have your head in the sand if you think it's only name calling at this point.
If I'm flying over an Amazonian tribe you better believe I can convey a message to them regardless of any differences in our technology levels. Surely they can send out a communications blast that would be picked up on radio.
Let me give you a better analogy.
You have two ants on the beach, one in California and one in China. Each threw a small piece of Styrofoam (or other floating material) into the Pacific ocean and waited a year( long time for average ant lifespans). The chances of not only seeing the message and understanding it but also able to distinguish it from the background noise (Pacific garbage patch and all) are infinitesimally small as it is with space.
If things tend to form balls then why is the galaxy and universe flat? Check mate atheists.
War is a pressure. If you don't have pressure you stagnate. War creates a necessity for an arms race that mimics evolutionary arms race. If there is no pressure for a species to evolve it won't as we see with many "living fossil's".
There are artificial pressures but that hasn't always been the case in human history. Would a hunter gatherer have any need for metallurgy?
Why didn't the dinosaurs?
The dinosaurs were evolutionary successful and lived for millions of years. Evolution doesn't favor intelligence but rather reproduction.
I think the Fermi Paradox is a thought experiment for humans to understand the odds of how we came about. Even if we aren't alone, we will most likely live out our existence without knowing becuase of the odds required for not only life but intelligent life able to traverse the cosmos.
Not only need a few generation of stars for heavy metals, not only int he right place of the galaxy, not only for the right planetary system to form, not only the right orbit for the planet, not only the right conditions for life, not only the right evolutionary pressure for intelligent life, and finally not only the time and technology required to understand how big the universe is and how fragile life is in the cosmos. This is just the few parameters to figuring the odds for intelligent life. The odds get better with more science but it's like saying 0.000000000000001 is better than 0.00000000000001.
That's not the point..
It is a relevant point when you are talking about gender, sex and transgender. Are you saying that those topics should not be discussed in a corporate environment? I would agree (keep politics and religion out of work) but then it becomes an issue when those topics inform corporate policy.
If you cannot talk about what influences corporate policy, how can you honestly and accurately talk about changing corporate policy?
Even if he wins the lawsuit, he's not getting re-hired.