Why was the comment below moderated down to -1 ? This isn't 'flamebait' it's a perfectly valid point. Before the mindcraft tests all the mouthy linux 'advocates' would bang on about speed. Now that's been shown to be a moot point they bang on about stability - many of them I suspect running Linux on a PC in their bedroom where neither is really that important.
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Before any benchmarks were done, linux people wouldn't shut up about how well it performed.
Now of stability means everything and speed all of a sudden means nothing.
Yes, I realize stability is a key asset of a web server.
Yes, I realize that all systems could saturate most leased-lines anyway...
BUT, for once I'd like to see linux advocates just take on the chin like men. Even Microsoft would be hard pressed to generate this much FUD. Yes, that's right - the linux community is the _overwhelming_ source of FUD online these days.
Actually, I can perfectly well envision a Windows based OS in ATM.
The NatWest bank in the UK has NT running in all over its ATMs. They don't seem to crash any more than other ATMs ( often OS/2 based I believe ) and they look prettier/better as well.
The 'copper wires', ie the Local Loop, which is currently owned by BT, won't be much longer. OFTEL has also decreed that the Local Loop is to be opened up for competition.
It seems to me that much of the 'problem' with TPM is that a bunch of little kids who went to see the original movies, or saw them on video, have now grown up loving Star Wars, and now expect TPM to appeal to them in the same way the other Star Wars films did when they were seven.
Has it ever occurred to you that the fact that Harrison Ford is ever so slightly older than Leonardo DiCaprio gives Ford something of an advantage here ?
Netscape 'extends' a standard and this is a 'good thing'
Microsoft 'extends' a standard and this is a 'bad thing'
You wouldn't care to explain that to me, would you ?
Also, where do you draw the line ? Imagine there is a standard - RFC XXX - which is widely implemented. Company A releases a product that implements RFC XXX but also some 'proprietary' extensions, which it releases as a new RFC. Is this good or bad ?
Haven't you got more important things to get worked up about ?
They messed up for a few days with the data blocks. Big deal. As for the 'UNIX/Linux' comment, it was hardly up there with 'Your mother is a pig', let it go.
Shipping beta quality code is against the spirit of open source software ?
Where did you get that bizarre idea from ? A huge proportion of GPL'd software is what you'd call beta quality. The idea being that it being open source means you too can contribute to making it better.
I don't suppose you've ever seen seen the phrase 'release early, release often' ever mentioned ?
MFC also uses a preprocessor heavily, though in this case it's the C pre-processor - witness the very heavy use of macros in areas such as the UI binding code.
Also, whilst parts of the MFX are simply a C++ veneer, other parts really are quite abstract from the underlying Win32 API, or in other cases totally unrelated.
The 'bizarre reason' being that they don't exist, bar the Post Office which *is* exempt. There is no 'common carrier' status for ISP's in English Law, as nice as it would be.
Fair point - except for Churchill. He was complete scum who once wanted to order the Army to fire upon hundreds of Welsh coal miners because the had the gall to strike.
Have you ever considered acquiring some facts before making up some opinions ?
One *root* name server in particular ( ie, authoritative for . ) is a P133, not overly loaded and serves in excess of 1 million requests per hour. This is not a machine I would class as "the fastest thing you can get"
Also, a root name server wouldn't be queried for the 'printer.robshouse' part of the domain, and, depending on which root server you hit, might not be asked to resolve the 'slashdot'
As a point of internet, 95% of the queries to the DNS server mentioned above are Windows machines trying to resolve 'DOMAIN', 'WORKGROUP' and such like...
Slashdot Mirror
Sort of like the Microsoft Direct Access Pack ?
This allows you to order 13 MS products ( Visual Studio Enterprise, Site Server, Exchange Server etc, etc ) for about £199 in total.
Not free, but hardly expensive compared to retail prices.
Your point being ? ( bar some pedantic machine code/assembler distinction... )
Why was the comment below moderated down to -1 ? This isn't 'flamebait' it's a perfectly valid point. Before the mindcraft tests all the mouthy linux 'advocates' would bang on about speed. Now that's been shown to be a moot point they bang on about stability - many of them I suspect running Linux on a PC in their bedroom where neither is really that important.
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Before any benchmarks were done, linux people wouldn't shut up about how well it performed.
Now of stability means everything and speed all of a sudden means nothing.
Yes, I realize stability is a key asset of a web server.
Yes, I realize that all systems could saturate most leased-lines anyway...
BUT, for once I'd like to see linux advocates just take on the chin like men. Even Microsoft would be hard pressed to generate this much FUD. Yes, that's right - the linux community is the _overwhelming_ source of FUD online these days.
Actually, I can perfectly well envision a Windows based OS in ATM.
The NatWest bank in the UK has NT running in all over its ATMs. They don't seem to crash any more than other ATMs ( often OS/2 based I believe ) and they look prettier/better as well.
The 'copper wires', ie the Local Loop, which is currently owned by BT, won't be much longer. OFTEL has also decreed that the Local Loop is to be opened up for competition.
Didn't NeWS implement something like this - the idea of an extensible server ?
It seems to me that much of the 'problem' with TPM is that a bunch of little kids who went to see the original movies, or saw them on video, have now grown up loving Star Wars, and now expect TPM to appeal to them in the same way the other Star Wars films did when they were seven.
This is not going to happen.
Has it ever occurred to you that the fact that Harrison Ford is ever so slightly older than Leonardo DiCaprio gives Ford something of an advantage here ?
Netscape 'extends' a standard and this is a 'good thing'
Microsoft 'extends' a standard and this is a 'bad thing'
You wouldn't care to explain that to me, would you ?
Also, where do you draw the line ? Imagine there is a standard - RFC XXX - which is widely implemented. Company A releases a product that implements RFC XXX but also some 'proprietary' extensions, which it releases as a new RFC. Is this good or bad ?
Or does it depend on who does the 'extending' ?
Haven't you got more important things to get worked up about ?
They messed up for a few days with the data blocks. Big deal. As for the 'UNIX/Linux' comment, it was hardly up there with 'Your mother is a pig', let it go.
Shipping beta quality code is against the spirit of open source software ?
Where did you get that bizarre idea from ? A huge proportion of GPL'd software is what you'd call beta quality. The idea being that it being open source means you too can contribute to making it better.
I don't suppose you've ever seen seen the phrase 'release early, release often' ever mentioned ?
MFC also uses a preprocessor heavily, though in this case it's the C pre-processor - witness the very heavy use of macros in areas such as the UI binding code.
Also, whilst parts of the MFX are simply a C++ veneer, other parts really are quite abstract from the underlying Win32 API, or in other cases totally unrelated.
>Services make good money, but the huge profits
>aren't made there.
Perhaps you should try telling IBM, CSC, or EDS that...
The 'bizarre reason' being that they don't exist, bar the Post Office which *is* exempt. There is no 'common carrier' status for ISP's in English Law, as nice as it would be.
Fair point - except for Churchill. He was complete scum who once wanted to order the Army to fire upon hundreds of Welsh coal miners because the had the gall to strike.
Have you ever considered acquiring some facts before making up some opinions ?
One *root* name server in particular ( ie, authoritative for . ) is a P133, not overly loaded and serves in excess of 1 million requests per hour. This is not a machine I would class as "the fastest thing you can get"
Also, a root name server wouldn't be queried for the 'printer.robshouse' part of the domain, and, depending on which root server you hit, might not be asked to resolve the 'slashdot'
As a point of internet, 95% of the queries to the DNS server mentioned above are Windows machines trying to resolve 'DOMAIN', 'WORKGROUP' and such like...