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SPL wrote in with a link to E! Online's Episode II rumours Interesting ideas; it seems almost certain
that Obi-wan and Mace Windu will have larger parts. DiCaprio as Anakin? Darth Maul's clone? I think I'll be happy as long as Jar Jar doesn't return.
I thought he was very good in:
What's eating Gilbert grape
Total Eclipse
Romeo & Juliet
Although he's been in his fair share of duff films as well
I think he would be an interesting (if not neccesarily the best) actor for the role.
Much of The Force seems to be a power culminating in and directed by the mind. Any connection between a high concentration of any type of cell and a supernatural mental ability seems small and possibly negligent.
The high-concentration of 'Jedi-Cells' may explain how a Jedi is able to manipulate his power to effect the physical world around him, but it does not address where the power itself truly originates from. An example (though perhaps not the most illustriative) is that you may have strong and powerful legs, but that does not make you an effective full-back, sprinter, or basket-ball player. If you are a basket-ball player though, those strong-legs will be very useful.
It's difficult to imagine how a bunch of plasma-cells can enable one to defy gravity on a whim and sense events far away. It also does not explain the appearence of Obi-Wan Kenobi and Anakin in ghostly silhouttes in the last installments of the trilogy. Seemingly supernatural events.
In essence, the entire explanation lacks credability because it explains how the power can be directed from the body to the world, but does nothing to explain how the power itself manifests and why. And to completely avoid any correlation to the mind and it's incredibly un-tapped potential serves only to relegate The Force to the same importance and awe of any element in the Periodic Table.
Star Wars would have kept it's thrilling grasp without the explanation and nobody would ever have questioned its lack. Like Jar-Jar Binks, this was another example of why keeping a script as trim and uncluttered as possible is essential to exceptional writing.
Why use a thousand pages to convey what you can in five and why accomplish with ten characters what you can accomplish in four?
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Just don't let Lucas direct. I don't care if Leo plays Anakin as long as he does a good job. I don't care if JarJar is back, as long as they make him a bit more serious.
Just bring back Ivan Rietman (I'm probably spelling that very wrong) and put some darkness into it.
its just Q--not Que, or Queue
I can not imagine Lucas thinking in D'Caprio.
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Drone= articifical mechanical objects replicated in huge amounts that cant think.
Lucas loves drones, but he hasn't dealt with a clone yet. You guys are in wishful thinking mode if you think Lucas is going to suddenly grasp this concept. Sure, the rest of sci-fi world knows it and believes in it, but Lucas has this need to keep each character as one whole being and doesn't like to complicate his scripts with sophisticated story lines. afterall, the idiots who like Jar Jar wouldn't be able to cope if things got a little interesting"Why do you eat meat? Because I love the thought that some animal died and that its blood feeds my soul. Bwaaahahahahahaahahahahaah"
Love from Ms Jute.
"I only tell the truth, that way I dont have to recall what I said"
They better film it now, Harrison Ford ain't no spring chicken.
Setting his threshold to 5, Sparky eliminated most of the trolls on /.
My vote is for Adam Sandler. I can just immagine him wielding a light saber with that goofy look on his face.
JET Program: see Japan, meet intere
Obi Wan: "oops"
Mace: "Yousa does a bombad ting, Obi Wan Jedi!"
Setting his threshold to 5, Sparky eliminated most of the trolls on /.
Maybe its just me, but it seems like you guys wheren't really paying attention when they started talking abouth those microorganism things. IIRC, they don't /cause/ the Force, they just are an /interface/ to the Force. If they caused the force, how could Jedi manipulate inanimate objects? I don't recall the lines exactly, but it was implied on several occations that they act on /behalf/ of the Force; they tell you whats up about the Force, etc. they concieved Anikan at the behest of the Force.
:)
Maybe I'm just smokin it, or maybe you need to pay more attention to things.
-Nick
"Woaa Ted, that's your Mom dude, I mean,
I am your father, Luke".
Rufus from Bill and Ted's shows up, schools Palpatine on the guitar...
Troll Like a Champion Today
Hmhh - thats not correct. They shot the scenes with a stand-in actor (Ahmed Best, also providing the voice) mainly to give the real actors hints where to look and also as (lighting etc.-) assistance to the CGI-Teams. But finally they totally replaced him with CGI (they did that before in Special Edition Ep. IV, where some guy played Jabba and was replaced by a digital image).
I remember reading something(can't remember where I read it though) about George Lucas having a commitee that would read through any books about Star Wars to make sure they continued the continuity of the Star Wars Universe.
A perfect example is in Timothy Zahn's Thrawn trilogy, the Norghri were initially the Sith but Zahn was told he couldn't use the Sith because it might contradict some things in the SWU.
It is a mistake to think you can solve any major problems just with potatoes -- Douglas Adam -- Life, The Universe and E
Yeah...but more interesting and fun to think/talk about
Agreed on the DiCaprio point. Jar-Jar can be in it, just not as much. I just want to see Yoda and Mace Windu get into it with some one. And the thing about Qui-Gon coming back...I think it'd be neat, just so that they don't make it too far-fetched.
I think we should all send lucas a screaming ripping loud message, "The people who paid to see your film 5 or 6 times are not gonna be scammed again!" Boycott the next film if Jar Jar is in the film for longer then 10 minutes. Of course we could offer an alternative to the 10 minutes. He can be in 90% of the film again as long as he dies an excrutiating horrible death that'll make all the children in the theater cry. BTW: check out h ttp://www.jarjarsucks.com
:)
Generati
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(not so anonymous coward!)
I didnt say that SW-Fans dont like humor but that (some) dont like the JarJarBinks-Form of Humor.
And dont you mean "I dont like" when you say "We true SW-Fans dont like"? Iam certainly a true SW fan but I actually like _some_ of Jar Jars scenes. Not all of them, but some. Then you speak about intelligence - but I cant find find much intelligence in feeling insulted by George Lucas with a character you dont like.
You have some (very good) point when you talk about the lack of relevance Jar Jar has to the plot - but the whole plot lacks a little bit of relevance to me.
I think the problem is that Lucas totally get lost in the possibilities of what ILM can do - while they are very amazing I would have preferred less SFX-shots in trade to some mory story-elements.
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In New Hope (the name of Episode IV), Darth Vader on the Death Star says something along thhe lines of sensing a familiar presence, but he says nothing about it being necessarliy a Jedi. He eventualluy recognizes the presence as that of Obi-Wan, his former master & friend. If he were just sensing Jedi, he should have detected two presences, Luke and Obi-Wan. It's just recognizing the aura of someone you've had a close relationship (master to apprentice) with for many years.
He should have been MUTE from the start! Yes! Change nothing about him except take away all vocal capability! Lucas still would have caught flak for the rest of the Gungans, but the character could have still pleased the kiddies and been MUCH less annoying. Anyone to second? It'd be a lot easier to achieve than completely digitally editing the character out...
Fuck Slashdot
Does anyone know of a tentitive release date for II?
I was extremely surprised to find out that 1/2 the people who saw the movie that I talked to _did not see a connection between Palpatine and Sideous_!!! Furthermore, I'd say maybe 1/4 did not see the Amidala/Panamede connection until it was revealed...
Pretty strange eh?
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I am ODiV, hear me type.
Aye agree.
However, if the rumors at the linked site are even ballpark close, he may have introduced the bogosplanation as a prop necessary to the plot for the "clone wars" spin in ep II.
Just a guess; still don't like it.
Sheesh, evil *and* a jerk. -- Jade
Could you not draw plasma from a Jedi and inject it into, say, a Wookie? And if The Force is tangible, could you not synthetically reproduce it as modern scientists are capable of doing with the human-growth hormone?
Theoretically, The Empire could use their funding to easily replicate the biological properties needed for the Jedi ability and produce a massive army of enhanced troops.
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There is a world outside of the US. Some of us havn't seen this movie yet, and the comments about Darth Maul's clone seems to give the game away a little. Could you please be a little more careful in future Rob?
>Excuse my ignorance, but what, who or where is Jar Jar?
He's Wesley Crusher's twin brother.....
HaHA! Lucas' subtle machinations are revealed. MORE JarJar. Leonardo DiCapprio. Darth Vader IS Jesus Christ. After blatantly slandering the Japanese in Episode I, he'd like to "use them" in the sequel. Lucas is obviously just trying to (at this point) piss off everyone who obsesses over Star Wars. Millions of dollars in merchandising alone just to tell people "it's just a movie, for Vader's sake."
He must be a templar.
Bad things often happen to good people,
It is up to them to see that they remain good.
good call. They do seem so much alike. Both are annoying and both were pointless to the plot of the movie/series.(At least Wesley hasn't been in and Star Trek movies, yet)
It is a mistake to think you can solve any major problems just with potatoes -- Douglas Adam -- Life, The Universe and E
"Troops". :-) I want 2 hours of Stormtrooper police enforcement baby!
I curious about one thing, in the Old Republic it seems to be a requirement to have martial art skills to be a Jedi. Yet in the original trilogy( which granted there were only a few Jedi in it)Luke's training involves almost no Martial Art techniques(I doubt the somesault in the air qualifies as a MA technique),I'm wondering if this has anything to do with the sudden popularity of Martial Arts today(Tai Chi, Tai-Bo, Tai-"insert anything here as long as it sounds good"), or if it is just an amazing coincidence.
I don't want to start a flame war and I am a big fan of George Lucas, but he seems to put things in this movies that sell, almost as if it was money and not his love of making movies driving this.
end ranting mode
It is a mistake to think you can solve any major problems just with potatoes -- Douglas Adam -- Life, The Universe and E
It seems to me that much of the 'problem' with TPM is that a bunch of little kids who went to see the original movies, or saw them on video, have now grown up loving Star Wars, and now expect TPM to appeal to them in the same way the other Star Wars films did when they were seven.
This is not going to happen.
-- I'm drinking myself to sleep again...
Maybe Darth Maul will come back with a prosthetic bottom-half, like Luke's prosthetic hand?
Plus, he used a two-ended light saber, which cut in half still works, signifying that he has one more life left in him.
And the clincher...
If you play the Star Wars theme backwards, you can hear Lucas say "Turn me on, dead man"
No, he's not.
Ha ha! I have crushed your puny argument with my witty retort! Ha ha!
Ha ha.
You "hated" this movie and felt "scammed" yet you saw it more than once. If you didn't like the movie the first time, why see it again? Did you think it might get better? HA!
"Duh, officer, I was scammed! This guy asked if I wanted to buy the Brooklyn Bridge, and after I bought it for the fifth or sixth time, I got suspicious!"
By the way, I liked Jar Jar.
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! (Falls over on floor)*THUD* HEHEHEHEHEHEHEHHE. Oh, gods; if I were Lucas I don't know if I'd be able to resist. And it's a natural for the inevitable Mad Magazine parody. . .
I'm actually looking forward to it, i think lucas can learn from his mistakes. More mace windu!
Nic
I only saw it one time. I learned my lesson the first time.
Generati
So.. I think it's quite obvios why Luke wasn't trained in the martial arts portion of the Jedi training.
;) Or the pod races for that matter.
1) Yoda isn't about to do some kickin' nad flippin' through the air anytime soon. And Yoda is the only Jedi Master around.
2) there wasn't much time.. let's concentrate on the important stuff, mind control, levitating rocks and such.
3) Vader isn't a martial guy since he went cyborg, but he _is_ the chosen one, so lets's concentrate on mind control.
By the way.. martial arts.. The word originates from the Roman God Mars, the god of War. Alas.. Martial arts are the arts of war. By hand, by weapon, by diplomacy or by tactic.
Martial arts should therefor be a natural part of a Jedi's training. but.. Masters like Yoda probaply arn't as good in the traditional martial arts, than for example Obi-Wan Kenobi, or Darth Maul for that matter.. But.. I wouldn't want to meet him in a game of StarCraft
- Henrik
- Henrik
- when the Shadows descend -
I'm afraid Lucas has already commented on a Fox special (ILM from Star Wars to Star Wars) that Jar Jar will most likely return.
:)
But, persuading him to change his mind is certainly a worthwhile goal
He's totemo kawaii, and no matter what some of the fanboys on this page say, he can act the ass off of almost any reasonable contenders for the part out there! See "The Basketball Diaries" if you don't believe me. And he *does* look like an older version of the boy in Ep. 1 (name escapes me at the moment). And as for "more Mace Windu," all I've got to say is YEAH, BABY, YEAH!! I hope if Darth Maul comes back (or this rumored new Sith) Mace-sama will whip it out and put the light saber *smack* down on him once and for all.
Ja ne! ^_^
Face it, if you haven't already watched a pirate copy of the movie, followed all the trailers, and bought the books from Amazon.com, you are really living in the boonies.
...
Don't you just love this new digital age? We elect Presidents early (including Shrub, the war wimp), work on version 2.0 before you even get version 1.0, and generally are bored with something (last century's fad) by the time you get excited by it.
So, just steal\\\\\make a million dollars and move to the US.
Or stop complaining when you go to a US-based web site that talks about something that's been out for two months.
Will in Seattle
who turned down the press screening cause I like the big screen at the Cinerama
Will in Seattle
Unfortunately Lucas certainly has commented that Jar-Jar will appear in at least the next sequel. Unlike many of my friends who have seen Episode I two dozen times, I found my ass sore and waiting for the movie to end before it was even half-way through. I'm not sure I'm even eager to see Episode II if Jar-Jar is in it. And I'm definitely going to be disappointed if DiCaprio is in it.
Besides, don't you want an actor who looks at least ten years-old to play Anakin?
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I'm so sick of little idiots like this protesting innocent characters like this...or try to make everything politically correct.
Do you really believe that George Lucas would put something blatently racist in one of his movies on purpose? Give me a break!!!!
--- "It's not enough that I succeed...everyone else must fail."
That is very www.boondocks.com if you think about it.
Why not have Jar-Jar learn makeup skills from Queen Amidala and start a TV show? We can call it:
"Amidala and Andy"
no, I'm not laughing.
Will in Seattle
wish I had a light saber that really worked too...
Will in Seattle
Ugh! please oh please oh PLEASE dont let Leonardo DeCrappio be in it! Call it "Episode II: JarJar's Tale" for all I care. As long as DiCaprio's not in it, it won't be totally ruined. Somebody go beat some sense into George Lucas before its too late, it was bad enough sitting through the horrible kid they casted for anakin in the first one.
Clone = flesh and blood exact animal replica of the original.
;)
Drone= articifical mechanical objects replicated in huge amounts that cant think.
Lucas loves drones, but he hasn't dealt with a clone yet. You guys are in wishful thinking mode if you think Lucas is going to suddenly grasp this concept. Sure, the rest of sci-fi world knows it and believes in it, but Lucas has this need to keep each character as one whole being and doesn't like to complicate his scripts with sophisticated story lines. afterall, the idiots who like Jar Jar wouldn't be able to cope if things got a little interesting
"Why do you eat meat? Because I love the thought that some animal died and that its blood feeds my soul. Bwaaahahahahahaahahahahaah"
Love from Ms Jute.
"I only tell the truth, that way I dont have to recall what I said"
HELL YEAH!!!
:)
and then, when it's time to choose the dark side (to become vader)
"stop making fun of me!!!!!!!"
EXCELLENT
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Come'on people, I just can't get what the matter
is with Jar Jar. I couldn't care less about him, this is just
a CGI-for-kids-and-action-figure character, no more anoying that
the robots in the sequels. Given the performance
of the real actors in TPM, I would say that it is one of the best characters of the film.
I would be more than happy of seeing him in the fothcoming episodies, but praise God for no DiCaprio.
The reason the for the linked droid mother ship is the reason that the empire later pursued other more reliable soldiers. Not robots, but clones, an aberration of the force.
Posted by Albert Einstein:
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I wouldn't watch another SW movie if you paid me. Check out the review by my favorite reviewer: http://www.sdreader.com/ed/mv/caps/curr/STARWRSI.
I did, however, find it disappointing that they had to develop a scientific explanation for The Force. Couldn't The Force simply remain something spiritual? Sure, I'm an agnostic, but I found it more insulting that they had to create a ridiculous explanation based on a cell-count to satisfy this techno-saturated culture of ours than I would have if they had attributed The Force to Christianity and Jesus!
Star Wars lost some of it's wonder as a result, and The Force may as well be The Farce.
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Excuse my ignorance, but what, who or where is Jar Jar?
I'm sorry for not being a SW fan, but it looks like everybody talks about him/her/it, so I felt I finally had to ask.
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Actually, I would like to see an Episode II that features Star Trek NG coming through a time warp and ending up in the Star Wars realm.
Then the mighty Que could make himself up to be a Sith and in a painfully heart wrenching moment tell Picard "Jean-Luke, I am your father"
I tell you, there can be only one Dark Helmet, and that is and always will be Rick Moranis
Yes, the explanation of the force didn't make much sense (symbiotic creatures living in your cells that "talk to you") and was not necessary to advance the plot. Exactly how do tiny creatures living in people produce action at a distance anyway? I thought the mystery of the power of the force and its origin was played up very well in the other three episodes when it was an energy field with a spiritual influence.
That certainly wasn't the only problem with the film. Here is just a subset of the things that bothered me:
1. The gungans are portrayed as simple minded fools yet they live in a sophisticated underwater civilization. What purpose did having the gungans serve? The planet's other civilization could have easily done the final battle scene. I think the gungans were supposed to be comic relief but instead they were just annoying. It is hard not to compare the gungans to the Ewoks, who actually did provide comic relief and were all around better integrated into the story.
2. Anakin is supposedly too old for Jedi training? Come on. Luke (15 years or so older) was supposed to be too old, but Anakin?
3. In the other films, Yoda was the master trainer of all Jedis. Obi Wan said that he thought he could train Anakin as well as Yoda but was wrong. Now in TPM, we have a training system of masters and apprentices. Seems inconsistent.
4. The dialouge about Anakin being "the one" seemed to be a total ripoff of Dune.
5. As evidence of the force, the film strongly emphasizes Anakin's engineering prowess. This doesn't agree well with the other episodes where the force manifests itself in other ways. Why not have Anakin display a 6th sense about the people he meets or the situations he is in, or have premonitions, or at least play up the force helping him in the pod race.
6. Why did TPM use an army of droids, while the other movies use armies of soldiers? Overall, Lucas made the droids in TPM more advanced than the other movies that supposedly occur later in time. Having all the droids controlled by the master ship (so that they all stop working when you kill the one target) seemed stupid to me too.
7. The plot line where Anakin _accidentally_ flies to the mother ship, then _accidentally_ shoots its power source, and then somehow flies out and back down to the surface, is way too over the top for me.
8. If in the other three episodes, Jedi's could detect the presence of other Jedi's, why couldn't the Jedi's in TPM feel anything around the senator who becomes the emperor?
9. The direction of the human actors was terrible. Most of the dialogue was read as if from a telestrator. I think only Anakin's mother and the Senator were well acted.
10. Where were the frequent tidbits of wisdom from the Jedi masters we've come to expect from SW episodes? In those episodes, the Jedi masters displayed a strong presence through their wisdom, patience, and self control. You could tell they were Jedi masters by the way acted. Unfortunately, the Jedi masters in TPM (even Yoda) just read their boring lines practically deadpan.
I could go on and on. I did enjoy the special effects, and there were a few (very few) characters and sub plots that were well written and directed, but overall the film was a huge dissapointment. I thought I had already lowered my expectations considerably before I went to see it, but I wasn't prepared for just how bad it could get. I was a HUGE SW fan before this film. Now, not only has Lucas put out a total turd, he has even succeeded in spoiling some of the appeal of the original trilogy for me.
As many times as Austin Powers: The Spy Who Shagged Me referenced Star Wars, it'd be great if Darth Maul had an exact clone, one-eighth his size.
"I shall call him....MiniMaul"
I just felt a disturbance as if thousands of voices suddenly screamed in terror and then were silenced.
Edu. sig-line: Choose rhymes with lose. Chose rhymes with goes. Loose rhymes with goose.
Comparing? THEN use THAN.
> "Whooooooaaa!" - Darth Vader
... shoot the producer. Takes the dumb decisions out of the equation"
"You're faced with a choice between joining the Dark Side and becoming tremendously powerful, eventually getting killed by your own son and living on a desert planet. What do you do?"
"That's easy
This is a dialogue by Luke "Starkiller" on page 30 of the old George Lucas Jan 28, 1975 script for Star Wars.
Luke Starkiller
"As the Republic spread throughout the galaxy, emcompassing over a million worlds, the GREAT SENATE grew to such overwhelming proportions that it no longer responded to the needs of it's citizens. After a series of assassinations and elaborately rigged elections, the Great Senate became secretly controlled by the Power and Transport guilds. When the Jedi discovered the conspiracy and attempted to purge the Senate, they were denounced as traitors. Several Jedi allowed themselves to be tried and executed, but most of them fled into the Outland systems and tried to tell people of the conspiracy. But the elders chose to remain behind, and the great Senate diverted them by creating civil disorder. The Senate secretly instigated race wars, and aided anti-government terrorists. They slowed down the system of justice, which caused the crime rate to rise to the point where a totally controlled and oppresive police state was welcomed by the systems. The Empire was born. The systems were exploited by a new economic policy which raised the cost of power and transport to unbelievable heights........................During one of his lessons a young PADAWAN-JEDI, a boy named Darklighter,(Anakin??) came to know the evil half of the force, and fell victim to the spell of the dreaded Bogan(Sith??). He ran away from his instructor and taught the evil ways of the Bogan force to a clan of Sith Pirates, who then spread untold misery throughout the systems. They became the personal bodyguards of the Emperor. ( Mandalorian red guards???) The Jedi were hunted down by these deadly Sith Knights. With every Jedi death, contact with Ashla grows weaker........."
Looks pretty clear about what he intended to happen in Episodes 2 and 3. This is located at Starwarz.com
It's a thankless job, but I've got a lot of Karma to burn off
I know the perfect guy for the part of Anakin for episodes 2 and 3, his name is Jeremy O'Ferral, relatively new actor, 21, cute, but not cutsie, definetly a winner, if only he'd get an audition before its decided.
i agree. the books are a punishment to those of us who are functionally illiterate.
1.) Lucas himself has said he's only just started on the script; at most he's just finishing off the first draft. I doubt DiCaprio has seen any script yet.
2.) Leo is by all accounts a huge Star Wars fan and is willing to work for much less then his usual multi-million dollar paycheck to be in this film.
3.) This "story" came from some sort of on-line gossip columnist, the net equivalent of the National Enquirer.
I'm sorry, but I think that all the "Leo won't be in Ep. II" rumors are nothing but the wishful thinking of fanboys. Go Leo-chan! ^_^
lets have Space Balls Episode 1
now that would be awesome
Yes, Jonny Lee would be good. I think that this
is a much better suggestion than having Ray Park,
the martial artist who played Darth Maul, play
Anakin. While Mr. Park is about the correct
age, he's 22, he's neither tall nor handsome enough (IMO).
This is it. I finally can't take it anymore. I have to defend Binks, DiCaprio, and all the other unjustly bashed beings who are unlucky enough not to appeal to 15-yr-old-pimply-hacker-types and their brethen. You see, Star Wars is a movie, which means that it has to appeal to a general audience, which most likely contains children, parents, and females, as well as genuine sci-fi freaks. There are a lot of really kick-ass sf books that, unfortunately, wouldn't appeal to a general audience, and consequently haven't been made into movies. I predict that sometime soon, we'll all be able to animate our favorite plots and characters and trade them online. Until then, well just shaddup and watch.
a prophet on the burning shore
Check www.episode2.com for the details...
Some highlights:
1) Anakin will be played by DiCrapio
2) DiCrapio already turned down the role because he thought that "the script is terrible".
3) Anakin will be a completely CGI character (we can only hope not...)
4) Jar Jar will be back with a vengeance (argh...oh wait, it's for the kiddies in the audience...)
5) Some of Lucas' subordinates were very much against Jar Jar, but had to tow the Lucas line.
6) Darth Maul will return in some way (ugh...just train another apprentice, okay??)
7) Anti-DiCaprio sites are already springing up to protest casting DiCaprio as Anakin.
8) There is a 'concept drawing' of dubious origin floating around depicting DiCaprio as Anakin.
9) There is a faux Episode 2 movie poster flying around with a bearded Obi-Wan (because we all know that beards==older), and DiCaprio as Anakin with Portman in his arms (Ugh..why not replace Portman with Claire Danes if they're going this far?? "I am Lucas' fool!").
10) DiCaprio has been seen on the Skywalker Ranch.
There are some pretty strange rumours flying around. Unfortunately, the most persistant one is of DiCrapio being Anakin. What ever happened to Lucas using unknowns? Using DiCrapio (this year's flavour of the month) would only ruin it. While he's ruining the movie with big names, why not throw Travolta or Bruce Willis in the mix as well?
(Personally, I will not see Episode 2 if DiCrapio is cast as Anakin. Episode 1: The JarJar Experience was painful enough.)
According to several Lucasfilm sources, Episode II will also finally unravel the mystery of the Clone Wars. Why are there all these war droids in the first movie, but all these storm troopers in the latter ones? (You could also ask it like "Why are all the storm troopers the same height and have the same voice?") I thought this one was a no-brainer... but all my non-geek friends don't seem to have gotten it. A farfetched (or is it?) fan theory about Episode II plot twists: The Anakin Skywalker we know from I does not become Darth Vader. Instead, an evil individual takes over Anakin's identity during Episode II and later becomes Vader. This is hard to believe. If his identity is replaced, it's via a clone. He appears at the end of ROTJ... This hardly seems appropriate for an evil jedi who recanted at the last moments... but might be reasonable for a evil clone of a good jedi. Undoubtedly there's a plot twist on the same order of magnitude as Vader being Luke's father... Although Qui-Gon Jinn was struck down by Darth Maul in Episode I, Lucas hints that we may not have seen the last of the Jedi Knight. Many fans have wondered why Qui-Gon does not disappear when Maul stabs him (as Ben Kenobi did in the original), and to that query Lucas replies: "You will discover in the next film why he doesn't disappear. The key line that serves as a clue is from Ben Kenobi to Darth Vader in the original: 'If you strike me down, I will become more powerful than you can possibly imagine.' " If you watch the original trilogy carefully, ObiWan dissappears BEFORE vader's light saber makes contact. Draw your own conclusions...
Let me repeat that...TAI BO IS NOT A MARTIAL ART. What it is is a very high impact aerobic workout that teaches extremely bad martial art forms and convinces people that they are learning a self-defense of some kind.
Tai-bo is like Scientology...they use celebrities to push it, and it teaches you zilch while emptying your pocketbook.
Drew Cary as Anakin:
"Screw this Jedi crap, Palpatine.
Let's go grab a beer."
heehee!
-The nice thing about cheap jokes is that you can afford so many of them....
It's a thankless job, but I've got a lot of Karma to burn off
The idea that one of the two is a clone is a good theory. Its almost impossible that the two are actually the same person, because the good jedi would have felt SOMETHING while Palpatine was in their presense.
My theory is that Sideous cloned himself and his clone (with or without the knowledge of Sideous's existance) is being guided to take over the senate. At some point in the future, Sideous will kill off Palpatine and take his place.
Of course, its also possible that the two characters' similarites is just a ruse to confuse us.
-Restil
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Jar Jar was only partial CGI - an actor did a majority of the body movement and such, with CGI placed over the top of him.. Saw the actor on the Today show.. but can't think of his name right now...
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Posted by Ydeologi:
Confirmed:
- Leonardo won't be in the movie; he reportedly didn't like the script, but was absolutely offered the part.
- Jar Jar Binks will be back with a larger role; Lucas is apparently sensitive to the criticism of the masses, though, and will make some adjustments.
- Mace Windu (Samuel L. Jackson) will be back, and in -action-.
Rumors:
- Earliest reports describe II/III as "Braveheart with lightsabers" -- both will be filmed principally in Australia.
- Darth Maul, who we did not see die, will play an important role in II/III...
Check out Episodeii.com for heaps more E2 fan related info.
Cheers,
Bullfrog
PS. Palpatine becomes the Emperor. Just go read the forward of an original Star Wars novel, which also mentions that Leia's mother was called Padme, if I remember correctly.
thx-1138 was Lucas's first script and directing role, in which society is force fed drugs by the government to keep them in a state of emotional sedation. Once sedated society is used as drones by the government for their will.
While not about cloning, specifically, the concept is very similair and Lucas has proven himself. Lucas just needs to get back into darker imagery and themes.
It's obvious that Lucas's vision of the evil, cloned empire comes from his vision of our future from thx-1138.
This isn't all that complicated. Really.
II opens with a strenous training scene with a 20 something year old Anakin atacking a hard pressed Obi-Wan.
After thier excercise, Obi-wan sends Anakin off to ponder his transgressions. Yoda stops by to say, 'I told you so, the kid is bad news'. Obi-Wan insists that he can handle it.
meanwhile, Anakin is cheking in on his little hottie, the Queen. We see his tender side, after seeing the developing dark side.
Cut to a scene of Sidideous/Palpatine (they are the same, honest). He is looking at a playback of Anakin & Obi-Wan, and chuckles ominously. "Excellent, all is procedeing as I have forseen"
Chancellor Palpatine is then breifed on the new Spathi Cloneing technology, recently discovered on the far side of the Republic. He makes arangments for it to be secreted away some place 'safe'."For the good of the Republic, this technology can not be allowed to fall into the wrong hands."
Anakin & Padme are married (they elope, okay). They take a trip to Tantoneie (Whatever) to visit Anakin's Mom. Sidieous, still observing Anakin closely, aranges for his 'temptation' to the dark side to happen here. At some point, we get the honeymoon scene where Anakin knocks the Queen up. (we find out at the end of the movie, and in the III we find out it's twins).
Meanwhile, Obi-Wan relizes the huge mistake he has made letting Anakin out of his site, and tracks him down. But, alas, it is too late. Palapatine has already brought him over to the dark side. While defending him self from the enraged Anakin, Obi-Wan causes him to get into a serious, crippling accident. Obi-Wan escape with Padame, to an undisclosed hideout.
We end II with Anakin coming out of a bionics repair shop, with a buttload of 'mods'.
With his new protoge firmly under control, Palpatine gets a large part of the military to side with him, and declares himself emporer.
Episode III opens with the military forces of the republic aranged against each other, Jedi and the old republicans on one side, and The emperor, Darth Vader, and a horde of cheap clones on the other. As the clones have no midi-chlorians, the Jedi prove powerless against them. (they can't sense them at all)
As the emporor consolidates his power, he and vader have a number of kick-ass battles with a stray jedi here and there. Obi-Wan is a general, working with the old guard, but he is crippled by his relaztion that Anakin (now vader) is far stronger than the rest of the Jedi.
vader goes agains the laws of the Sith, and begins training his own protoge, to help him over throw his old Master.
As the movie draws to a close, Yoda and Mace disperse the Jedi. "Live to fight another day."
Yoda retires to dagoba, and kills Vader's Protoge there.
Padme finds a battle weary obi-wan, and extorts a promisses to do all he can to insure the saftey of her son, Luke. Obi-Wan promises to keep him safe from the emporor.
Cut to a scene of Mace Windu standing before the new emporer. "YOU! How could we have been so BLIND" Just as Darth Vader steps from the shadows and cuts him down.
"My master, only a few have escaped us, but they are scattered and weak." says Vadar.
Cut to a scene of Padme being interogated by Vader and Moff Tarkin. "Where are you children!" Padme replies, "I have no children, they were killed by the Empire!". "Oh Anakin, what have you become!" Says Vader, "That name no longer has any meaning for me. Anakin Skywalker died the day you left him to his own devices... TAKE HER AWAY"
III ends with a young luke playing in the sands of tantonee...
Well, thats how I think the story should go!
BB
I didnt like the fact that Anakin had no dad. Didnt like the messiah, prophet thing. Would rather his dad have died in some sinister way. Maybe by a jedi? and have Anakins anger stem from that not from him missing his mommy.
Microsoft aggravates my tourettes syndrome.
Check out the StarWars website at:
http://www.starwars.com/characters/palpatine/
where they outline the history of the Emperor,
including his history as Senator Palpatine.
CAN"T ACT, CAN"T FRICKIN DO ANYTHING. THEY BETTER NOT CAST HIM OR I WILL BOYCOTT STARWARS ALL TOGETHER, AND I CALL FOR A WOAH BUNDY ON THIS ONE!
JediLuke
-Do or Do Not, There is no Try
Generally speaking, digital is vastly more expensive (short-term) than standard film. Yes, digital effects are cheaper than filming stop-motion shots, but those are done completely in a computer. The cameras and associated electronic equipment for filming the real world digitally are absurdly expensive, and not getting any cheaper. Furthermore, they are basically untested- Lucas would be the first to shoot an entire film digitally, and so he would also be the first to discover (and be forced to deal with) any serious shortcomings in the technique.
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Though Jar-Jar had few redeeming qualities, I can't say that I have a particular need for him to not show up in future movies. One thing that I hope Lucus doesn't do is distract too much from the meat of the possible plots with useless drivel from Jar-Jar's race like happened with the Ewoks.
With the rumer that everything takes place on their home world though, it would be hard not to have the bumbling idiot brigade interfering with some very interesting other plot lines. Such as what happens to a Jedi when they are struck down, explanations for the clone wars, and of course the whole corruption of Anakin.
Though I'd gladly give up a serious movie for one simply spin off... Jar-Jar's Trek to the Dark Side.
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You could have already figured out the entire movie from data easily available on the web.
No one is making you read it.
You didn't see him die? It seemed pretty obvious when his upper torso became separated from his lower.
.. what do you people have against Jar Jar? I mean.. I thought Yoda was annoying as HELL, in any movie I saw him in, but I don't complain that they keep him around movie after movie. If you want my pick for character removal, why don't we re-cast Mace windu. Who in their right mind cast Jackson as that role. I mean, honestly.. Flames to /dev/null, and as this will no doubt be moderated down, read up folks: LEAVE JAR JAR BE.
I don't understand why everyone is so big on Mace Windu. Samuel L. Jackson was just plain -distracting- in this role.
He reminded me more of Sisko from Deep Space 9 than a Jedi.
ROTF!
Light Cabers! Now THERE'S a concept!
Anonymous Kev
Phantom Menace was a huge festering pile of crap! Like you I really liked the first three movies and found this one to be a total letdown.
I saw Phantom Menace once, only once and do not plan on seeing it gain. Contrast this with the fact that I saw Star Wars (Episode IV for the nitwits in the audiance) 30 (thirty) times in the theatres between 1977 and 1978 and un unknown number of times on HBO and video.
If the reviews of the next movie (from sources whose judgement and taste I can trust) are not INCREDABLY better than Phantom Turd I am not even going to bother to see it.
Lucas really screwed the pooch on this one. Blech!
Boobies never hurt anyone. - Sherry Glaser.
The books don't count. The ONLY thing that counts as far as Star Wars "gospell" is the movies. If you need to read the book (or books based on the movie) to understand the movie or fill in the holes left by the movie then the director of the movie has FAILED.
It either stand up on its own or it falls down. Bringing in outside material to make it work is cheating.
Boobies never hurt anyone. - Sherry Glaser.
I take it you didn't see "Trainspotting" before "The Phantom Menace".
It is obvious to me that Qui-Jon left Obi-Wan back at the ship at Tattoine because he was afraid that Obi-Wan would try to score if he made it to Mos Eisley.
The cake is a pie
i think it is rather humerous that DiCrapio has enough gall to even act like he knows what a good script is. i think he takes whatever is offered to him... ever see "Total Eclipse"? ughhh....
Large print giveth, and the small print taketh away
Why does everyone think that Anikin is going to hook up with Amidala? Luke & Leia's mom was the Queen of Aldaran not Naboo? How can Lucas explain that?
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Let's face it, Lucas wanted to remake Akira Kurosawa's "The Hidden Fortress". Luke wore a Karate Gi, carried a futuristic samurai sword, and flipped through the air like he was in a low budget kung-fu flick. All the mental training and "feeling the force" has parallels in the martial arts--meditation, cultivation chi, learning to sense motion even with eyes closed.
Anyhow, T'ai Chi is an thousands-years old martial art, Thai boxing is probably hundreds of years old, and Tae-bo is a mish-mash of Tae Kwon Do and Boxing and not considered a martial art at all.
If you want to learn to be a jedi, or as close as one can get in the real world, I'd suggest you find a good kung-fu teacher.
"Let me guess, you're Jar Jar, right?"
"Oh, I'm sorry, did I *break* your concentration? Then allow me to retort! What does Anakin Skywalker look like?"
"Meesa what?"
"'Meesa What' ain't no planet I ever heard of, do they speak Basic on 'Meesa What'?"
"Meesa what?"
"BASIC, MUTHAFUCKA, DO YOU SPEAK IT?!?"
"Meesa what?"
"Say 'meesa' again, I dare you, I double-dare you muthafucka, say 'meesa' one more goddamn time! WHAT DOES ANAKIN SKYWALKER LOOK LIKE?"
"Heesa white!"
"Go on!"
"Heesa Jedi!"
"Does he look like a Wookiee?"
"Meesa what?"
(Jar Jar's arm falls to the floor)
"DOES HE LOOK... LIKE A WOOKIEE?"
"NOO!"
"Then why'd you try to fuck him like a Wookiee, Jar Jar? Yes you did! Yes you did, Jar Jar! And Anakin Skywalker don't like to be fucked by anybody but Queen Amidala."
Now _THAT_ would be cool.
After years and years of ridicule about his antics and speaking voice....Jar Jar will snap and transform himself into the ruthless bounty hunter, Boba Fett.
It's all so clear to me now...
--- "It's not enough that I succeed...everyone else must fail."
He is no where near sophisticated enough to use the cloning theory. Heck he didn't even understand the Blake cloning theory in Blake's 7 ;) Palpatine and Sideous are not the same person, Palpatine WILL become Sideous' puppet later on though. Jute has spoken!
"I only tell the truth, that way I dont have to recall what I said"
Troops is GREAT! Much better than Phantom Turd could ever be.
Boobies never hurt anyone. - Sherry Glaser.
FWIW, theforce.net said that `In the script we stole^H^H^H^H^Hacquired in September, Bail Organa of Aldeeran was also running for Supreme Chancellor. But that was changed to Bail Antilles of Aldeeran. Perhaps Lucas sees a larger role for Organa in Episode 2?" Haven't heard anything about anybody else new or returning ...
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How in the world could Jar Jar get a larger role? He was in just about every scene in Episode I (even doing nothing but SLEEPING in one scene).
:P
Maybe they should just put a special "Jar Jar Box" in the upper right corner of the screen -- like a TV picture-in-picture. That way, we could watch him through 100% of the film.
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Funny! I guess every time the Emperor says "Death Star", Mini Maul has to make the little "quote" signs with his fingers. :)
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I just saw the movie yesterday. I heard the stories and couldn't believe them. However, after seeing the movie I am appalled. How could Lucas do this? I'm a generally a geek who has dark skin. I never expected this to come from the sci-fi community. Not from Star-Wars for sure! I really wanted to believe that the rumors were false. However, I saw it with my own two eyes. I have been to Jamaica several times. I swear the Gun guns, whatever, were speaking Patois. Right down to the th's that sound like t's and the use of "me" I know Jar Jar's walk is what alot of blacks would call "pimping". Lastly, alot of the facial features and expressions seemed black. Totally disgusted with this type of bullshit! Mad as hell in Champaign, the birthplace of HAL 9000.--Irie Brother
"To deny our own impulses, is to deny the very thing that makes us human." - Mouse
Posted by skilfin:
after seeing ewan play obi-wan, i thought that the next anakin should be played by Jonny Lee. think about it.
A vague rumor I heard: In Episode II, Anakin returns to Tatooine to free his mother, but this is strongly against Obi-Wan's wishes.
Now for my two-cent analysis of it: I can envision a headstrong/overconfident Anakin fearing for his mother, seeing a vision of her in pain, and rushing back to Tattoine to save her, under the protest of Obi-Wan and Yoda. This would echo part of Return of the Jedi, and Lucas likes that sort of thing. I can even see Obi-Wan's attempts to stop him causing a rift between Obi-Wan and Anakin, and I'd say it's likely that someone would be eager to use Anakin's weakness -- his love for his mother -- to gain the young Jedi's trust.
Time will tell.
Many people have also complained that Jar Jar has a Jamacan accent is a complete screw up and therefor is a racist statement by Lucas.
I agree Jar Jar is a complete screw-up. I agree he has somewhat of an island accent and Gullah-like speech patterns. But to claim that it's a racist portrayal just doesn't make sense to me. One character out of an entire fictitious alien race is a screw-up so it stands to reason that the Gungans are a racist stereotype of Jamaicans/islanders? A fellow can be a screw-up regardless of his ethnicity, and his screw-upedness doesn't necessarily reflect on his race. The Gungans seemed to have been a noble, if slightly arrogant group -- remember, they kicked Jar Jar out for being a screw-up.
I saw more of a narsty racial stereotype in the slanty-eyed "Ah So" monopolistic Trade Federation aliens than I did in a simple bumbling idiot. Bash Jar Jar for the character's true faults -- lame unnecessary slapstick humor, incomprehensible speak, and the idiocy of saying "How wude!" every 5 minutes or so. Just don't assume the Gungans are the biggest racial stereotypes in the movie based on the stupid actions of one dumb character.
(that said, I sure would shed no tears if Jar Jar didn't show up in Episode 2.)
At present, filmakers seem to choose digital for budgetary reasons only. I haven't heard of big movies choosing digital for its quality.
No also about it, Lucas said on his recent ILM special that episode II was essentially a love story, or something to that effect. Hopefully that will give Portman more of a chance to shine.
Was this obvious? He didn't direct V and VI after all. I'm more of a Lucas fan than most, but I wouldn't mind if someone like Irvin Kershner directed. I could probably tolerate a Spielberg / Lucas collaboration too.
Remember how clumsy Jar Jar was in that final battle, yet he always managed to do the right things? Think that's coincidence? Ha!
We can expect Jar Jar to visit Yoda and spend much of the episode receiving training. It'll be so damn cool...
What about using the guy who played darth maul for the older anakin? Rumor has it he's especially skilled in the martial arts...
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With any luck, Mace Windu will assist in his training.
"Meesa gonna tear yousa up! Meesa one bad mudda fucka!
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How about Darth Binks the super ninja sith lord. IMO Jar Jar is an attempt at creating a loveable comedy personality that back fired terribly.
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Jar-jar is Lucas' revenge for the poor reception
of "Howard the Duck". Remember that jewel?
Lucas' ego won't let him admit he is wrong. He's
become the emporer himself.
This is more like the pyschic friends network than anythings tangible. I mean some of the things in there contridicted eachother. Besides, I would rather just see the damned movie than have to listen to some crap that some guy at E! came up with on the top of his head (or her). Anyone else see what I am saying here?
Beau C
Got this before the movie came out.
The TOP 10 Things We Want To Hear Samuel L. Jackson, "Jedi Master Mace Windu," say in Star Wars Episode 1:
10. You don't need to see my goddamn identification, 'cause
these ain't the motherfuckin' droids you're looking for.
9. Womp rat may taste like pumpkin pie, but I'll never know, cause even
if it did I wouldn't eat the filthy motherfucker.
8. This is your father's lightsaber. When you absolutely,
positively, have to kill every motherfuckin' Stormtrooper in the room...
accept no substitutes.
7. If Obi-wan ain't home then I don't know what the fuck we're
gonna do. I ain't got no other connections on Tattooine.
6. Feel the Force, motherfucker.
5. What ain't no planet I've ever heard of! Do they speak Bocce on What?
4. You sendin' the Fett? Shit, Hutt, that's all you had to say!
3. Yeah Chewie Rocky Horror's got a hair problem. What the
brother gonna do? He's a wookie.
2. Does Jabba the Hutt look like a bitch?
1. Hand me my lightsaber... it's the one that says, "Bad Mother Fucker."
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Hrm, I wasn't a Blossom fan, but I find this somehow arousing... Who was bi on Blossom?
"McCallum also indicated that Darth Maul, easily the most popular character in The Phantom Menace, will most likely not return. Internet talk, however, is that Maul will return--as a clone of his bad self."
BUT 1/8TH HIS SIZE!!!!
...is the latest rumour. Little Ricky will set aside his NYPD Blue badge to whoop some Sith and get it on with the comely queen.
May the force be with him.
-- What you do today will cost you a day of your life.
Good news guys. Leo will NOT be in Episode II. I think I saw the article on wildweb.com . Leo really was offered a spot on the movie but Leo, being the self-centered "I'm all that" kinda guy he is, DECLINED because he said that he didn't like the script (what script?!). More details at My Site . No? Ok. I lied. Check out Wild Web for more details.
I am your father...
Really?!
Not really. I can't back that up.
Either as:
1) The love child of Jar Jar Binks and Palpatine;
or
2) The young Princess Leia
Anything behind this?
Look, its unanamous, we all hate Jar Jar Binks, I could list reasons but you guys have covered em all.
As for plot twists etc. I'm gonna anticipate, and wait.
As for the Leo DiCaprio thing... well, I'm glad rumor sez he declined the script. If Leo was cast in the movie, I would be there on opening night man!! With a sachel bomb full of plastique and bits of scrap metal. I would snap and kill as many people as i could. (I figure if you went to E2 knowing Leo was Anakin, you kinda deserve to die...)
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"If you can crush a mans neck, simply by looking at him -- you might be a Jedi!"
==Television Pilots==
And perhaps we can begin to see Star Wars explore some more pressing issues with the central characters being so young.
In the vein of 90210, Anakin could knock Queen Amidala up while they're both underage and deal with a pending abortion, adoption, or birth. Amidala will be forced to relinquish control of Naboo to become a stay-at-home mom. And, in typical male fashion (according to Hollywood), Anakin will dump her for Brittany -- the local slut.
In the style of Blossom and Party of Five, we could have Anakin explore his new-found bi-sexual desires with Obi-Wan Kenobi.
Meanwhile, Jar-Jar Binks finds himself seduced by the porn-world, producing Naboo's most impressive blue-market videos.Queen Amidala, having become an unemployed, single, teenage mother, will resort to prostitution and fight fruitlessly to fight off her rabid drug-habit. Of course, never able to kick the habit, she is knocked up again when Anakin returns while on the rebound and talks a drunken Amidala into a little nookie (for old-times sake, of course). Nine months later, she gives birth to a crack-baby named Luke. Not wanting to own up to his responsibilities again, Anakin applies to the Navy. Unfortunately, despite their don't-ask-don't-tell policy, his carnal desires are exposed and he is booted out of the service, only to join the Empire.
In the flavor of Moesha, we learn about the danger of gangs and peer-pressure as Anakin is jumped into The Empire and exposed to violence and hate.
And in a very touching scene, derived from many episodes of South Central, Anakin picks up his first light-saber. Of course, the weapon's owner had neglected to keep it in a safe place or install a saber-lock.
And in a heart-warming ending to Episode II, Amidala succumbs to a drug-induced coma and sees dancing wookies, in a rather obviousAlley McBeal-esque rip-off.
Yes, I speak blasphemy!
You must admit, though, that many of us would rather see such ideas as those previously mentioned than anything remotely similar to Episode I again.
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Man. That's just soooooooo evil.
--He looks enough like the young/old Anakins to pull it off, and already HAS that "dark side of the Force" aura about him.
--Of course, there's always Keanu Reeves instead...
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"Whooooooaaa!" - Darth Vader
Nothing special about his acting and he is a certified prick. I hear on the Titanic set, he threw a small fit because he wanted a certain male friend to be there with him and wanted them to pay for him to come down there.
And by the way.. I can get chicks. In fact, I have one right now.
"Aye! Enough of this pansy-arse flash-light fighten' -- let's you and me go toss us some cabers!"
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The problem is that most semi-hard-core Star Wars fans are fairly intelligent. In fact, I would not hesitate to suggest they are above average intelligence. We want to see the dry-wit of Harrison Ford or the humor of the befuddled C3PO and his anal personality.
We do not want to see Steve Urkel. We don't want to see Jerry Lewis. Slap-Stick is a cheap and thoughtless form of humor which belongs in cheap and light films (Ace Ventura, Austin Powers, etc.). When you make slap-stick a large part of a movie such as Star Wars, you are insulting your true fan-base for the sake of marketing a few million extra action figures and Happy Meals.
Star Wars fans do not find stepping in 'doo-doo' funny. It's a low-blow to the viewer and leaves you with this strange idea of super-imposing Bob Saget's (Funniest Home Videos) face and voice over Jar-Jar.
Not only did Lucas insult many of his fans with the sheer idiocy of Jar-Jar Binks, but he prevented the character from displaying any worth to the plot. A writer knows that characters who are not integral to the plot, or the procession of the plot should be written-out. Binks was left in and any investment you might make in the character through the film is not returned. By the end of the film, the only accomplishment Jar-Jar manages is to survive.
So what could have been changed, other than writing him out completely? If he had simply had a moment of bravery in the final moments of the film, his character would have been redeeming. But his character was as flat and undeveloped at the end as he was in the beginning.
Some people suggest that Jar-Jar's worth will be realized in the second installment, but that doesn't excuse the utter lack of progression in Episode I. And it certainly doesn't explain some 230 scenes (of the 2000) in the film.
All I can say is that meesa think Jar-Jar Binks was the biggest waste of cpu cycles in the history of man.
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why do people hate jar jar? he created the comic relief needed in the movie.
and if leo is too be in the second movie someone should make him have an *acident* so he cant ruin it.
I dont want to go to see EpisodeII, and think what the hell is a girl (Leo), doing with a light sabre, and oh jeeeeeezzzzzz this is the girl that becomes evil, is the chosen one, and is the one whom I had seen in that black dress with a mask.. when I was a kid..
Nooooooooo Pleaseeeeeeeeeeeee, No girly for the Anakin now, and the future Darth Wader..
Perhaps Jedi are only detectable if they let a little bit of the Force "get away from them." Palpatine was probably just holding it in.
I've noticed that everyone referred to as "Darth" at any point is rumored to be a clone or be replaced by one. Perhaps that's what Darth means?
If Anakin's a clone, that would certainly explain the odd circumstances of his birth... And I'd love to see another Darth Maul come back and actually have some effect on the plot this time rather than simply following other people around and getting into one decent fight at the end.
In no way do I want to convey the idea that I feel Lucas sold-out to some stereo-typical cut-out Hollywood standards to increase his revenue. Lucas, I believe, has all the money he could desire and would not intentionally sacrifice the one thing for which he will always hold legendary status for.
What I do believe is that he attempted to create a movie that tried to do everything for everyone. You cannot do that. This is why we have genres. There are romances, science-fiction, adventure, fantasy, drama, comedy, slap-stick, documentary, and so on. Any one or two -- even three of these elements playing a major role in a film can be done well, but there is a point where the soup becomes slop because the cook has used too many ingredients.
I believe Lucas used too many ingredients. George, if you happen to ever see this message -- what we want is less Jar-Jar. If Jar-Jar had accomplished nothing in the film, but occupied one tenth of the screen-time which he did, it may have been cute and acceptable. Either give him a purpose, tone his forced presence down, or limit his screen-time.
I have to admit, I did laugh at Jar-Jar. I was embarassed to admit it at the time, but I almost choked on my laughs when his head was zapped. However, Star Wars is not Mr. Bean or Saved By The Bell. Give your true-fans a little more credit and treat your prequel characters with the same dignity, respect and sincerity that you did in IV, V, and VI.
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How about casting Jackie Chan as a Jedi Knight.
You'd get some kick ass action, AND he could supply the comic relief negating the need for a return of the dreaded Jar-Jar.
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Maul was NOT bleeding in this scene. I believe that in the past, wounds were instantly cauterized (sp?) by a lightsaber slice.
:)
It is conceivable that if the major organs weren't sliced and diced, he could have lived long enough to get to an doc, and had some cybernetic legs and a schlong
DiCaprio ... Jar Jar ... Romance between ANNIE and Amidala ... This one is gonna rule even more than TPM !
No, I'm not sarcatic !!
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Yeah! Jar Jar escaped from 'Men in Black', so this could be interesting ...
"No one can be told how bad TPM is. You have to see it by yourself"
and was one of the main reasons why I disliked TPM.
Jar Jar has _no point_
Jar Jar is annoying
Jar Jar makes TPM look like a bad 'Men in Black' spinoff.
Actually, 'chicks' don't like me because of my bank account :)