Seriously, this is what you answer with when I criticize product honestly and constructively? You honestly think that for example Microsoft would response to my suggestions with a "fuck you"? They would thank me for my input.
It's no wonder open source isn't going anywhere if the answer to any criticism is "fuck you".
LibreOffice and OpenOffice both still seem really heavy. Java probably has something to do with it, but they just aren't nice to use. On top of that the UI starts to get kind of old.. I started using Office 2010 just lately and I have to say I love the Ribbon interface. It keeps useless stuff out of the screen and is fast and pleasant to use. It takes some time to get used to, but once you do there's no going back to the old clumsy interfaces.
Own phone if it works, of course. That's why I said if he needs one. They're so cheap at the markets that I usually buy one to take with me if I plan to get really drunk. That way I don't lose my actual phone:-)
It's the same like everywhere in Asia. You walk to mall, nearest street store or market and buy a sim card. Usually they also offer cheap unlimited plans for internet. If you need more time, you just buy refill card. If you need a phone, those can be bought from malls and markets really cheaply too.
I don't see why this is so usual bitching subject about it. So after all you people aren't happy that Linux gets to smartphones, even if it means it's on low end phones?
WP7 for high-end phones make a lot of sense because it's already done and is especially tailored towards those. It doesn't make sense to start again with Linux. Nokia has tried to get that done for the past few years. It even has MeeGo already. Why haven't you bought a MeeGo phone?
Sure, it might be used for blocking malicious links now.. but what about when competing social networks, like Diaspora, emerge? Looking at Facebook's history I'm sure they will use it to block users moving to Diaspora and reading about Diaspora. It will be used as an opinion suppression tool.
Sexting isn't "starving of attention". It's just a little sexual act, or to make others day a little bit more pleasureful, or for the any other reason adults too it. Teens, especially towards the adulthood, aren't as stupid as adult seem to think. People just usually draw that picture based on non-complete images, and things that stand out (the bad things).
We used to send nude pictures of ourselves with my gf when we were teen, and it was both for the little thrill, sexual pleasure but also for feeling love towards the other person. When we later broke up it never did cross my mind to spread them to internet. Things change, and while it hurts, you don't have to be an ass about it.
It's sometimes funny when you read about parents writings on the internet, especially slashdot, how it feels like they've completely forgotten how it was to be a teenager. Of course, you didn't have smartphones, but you had the equivalent stuff anyway.
And of course, I don't live in the US where showing a nipple on TV is a huge thing (but killing people and other violence is just fine), so maybe I'm more liberal because of that too, but you just have to accept that sexting is usual and is what teens do. Even if you didn't get to do that as a teen.
So I take it people are also granted freedom of speech as long as they say what you agree with? Likewise, people should be free to use and share software and code as long as they don't share it to someone you disagree with.
Microsoft has full right to charge licensing fees for the technology they did R&D for and invested in, especially when other companies are profiting from said investment.
They all play by the Open Source License rules. You make a change to FOSS code, AND RE-RELEASE THE PROGRAM, you must provide the source code when requested.
I hate it when people always seem to take the phrase out of context and apply it to mean any kind of security, like network security or the old Windows/Linux battle. It's a completely different kind of situation, and in the former it's especially true that security by obscurity is a hardener layer. It's also why Linux has managed to stay as (consumer) malware free to day, even though it still has a fair share of its own worms and other security problems.
Their CEO did nothing visible? Things take time you know. And what's the line about shareholders. Usually in Slashdot people hate companies because they only do something that pleasures their shareholders. Now you're crying that they made a decision that didn't.
- MS will keep building up ways to make money off Linux. They'll spin two ways; they'll claim that their work exploiting^H^H^H^H extending Linux legitimizes their right to claim license fees for the rest of it, and they'll slowly solidify their position of "ownership" due to some bullshit patents they have.
So wait, Red Hat, Canonical, Google and other companies are all warmly welcome to contribute and make improvements, but when it's Microsoft we should go "noo, we don't play with guys like that. go away."
They're all profiting (or as you say, exploiting) Linux just the way you describe.
I think you're under assuming recent generation low-end phones. They're perfectly capable of multitasking, surfing the internet, many even have cameras. They might not have so many features, the camera quality isn't really that good, but even the cheap phones now a day can do lots of stuffs. And I actually just looked from Nokia's site. Since hardware is the most cost, I think they can do it with their Linux solution since now they're using Symbian.
Uh no, they should really drop Symbian already. It's just pain in the ass. Both to use and develop for. Best would be to only have Win7 for high-end phones and Linux for the low-end.
You know, Microsoft hasn't been with war with Open Source or Linux for years. They contribute to open source themselves, they ask for slashdotters opinion to their open source Python IDE (where 95% of you acted like dicks btw) and is in every other way come forward. The rest of the world has let it go years ago. Maybe you should too.
Just a slight correction, $400 million an year of course. And so this isn't just self-reply... Nokia has always needed help with their UI and consumer friendly part in their smartphones. I think Windows 7 is a really good choice for that, as it's actually a really user friendly OS and it already as the marketplace and other stuff ready that Nokia never got off alone. But Nokia has also done good low-end phones and they're still selling really great in Asia and in Europe too. Linux is a good choice for those, as it can run on more low-end machine and Nokia already has knowledge about it gained from MeeGo.
This means the three friends Linux-Nokia-Microsoft will be in bed together. It's not surprising considering Nokia already developed Qt and they were developing MeeGo which is based on Linux. Their Nokia N9 phone is quite awesome, actually.
Now what's great about this is the fact that with Nokia's history they have proven to put out quality hardware. They can also really use this to fight against both iPhone and what's worrisome for some, Android. Android has lots of fragmentation and patent related problems. Just yesterday it was revealed that Microsoft alone gets $400 million a day from Android.
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Seriously, this is what you answer with when I criticize product honestly and constructively? You honestly think that for example Microsoft would response to my suggestions with a "fuck you"? They would thank me for my input.
It's no wonder open source isn't going anywhere if the answer to any criticism is "fuck you".
LibreOffice and OpenOffice both still seem really heavy. Java probably has something to do with it, but they just aren't nice to use. On top of that the UI starts to get kind of old.. I started using Office 2010 just lately and I have to say I love the Ribbon interface. It keeps useless stuff out of the screen and is fast and pleasant to use. It takes some time to get used to, but once you do there's no going back to the old clumsy interfaces.
so you wouldn't mind outsourcing your girlfriend to me for a warmup, as long as you get her back wet and ready for you to focus on important stuff?
Sure, you can take her shopping.
Own phone if it works, of course. That's why I said if he needs one. They're so cheap at the markets that I usually buy one to take with me if I plan to get really drunk. That way I don't lose my actual phone :-)
It's the same like everywhere in Asia. You walk to mall, nearest street store or market and buy a sim card. Usually they also offer cheap unlimited plans for internet. If you need more time, you just buy refill card. If you need a phone, those can be bought from malls and markets really cheaply too.
Because it's legit and the moral thing to do?
No. Just because they patented it doesn't mean they're actually using it. Companies patent lots of things all the time.
Nokia has several phones with Linux, already.
I don't see why this is so usual bitching subject about it. So after all you people aren't happy that Linux gets to smartphones, even if it means it's on low end phones?
WP7 for high-end phones make a lot of sense because it's already done and is especially tailored towards those. It doesn't make sense to start again with Linux. Nokia has tried to get that done for the past few years. It even has MeeGo already. Why haven't you bought a MeeGo phone?
Sure, it might be used for blocking malicious links now.. but what about when competing social networks, like Diaspora, emerge? Looking at Facebook's history I'm sure they will use it to block users moving to Diaspora and reading about Diaspora. It will be used as an opinion suppression tool.
It's not really surprising. Almost always anti-piracy groups start making noise when summer is starting. Feels like they're trying to scare off kids.
I just hope someone at FBI and NSA remembered to notify FTC that it is their operation.
Yep, other browsers like Opera have had this feature for a long time. How does it even close internet? It just speeds up your browsing.
Sexting isn't "starving of attention". It's just a little sexual act, or to make others day a little bit more pleasureful, or for the any other reason adults too it. Teens, especially towards the adulthood, aren't as stupid as adult seem to think. People just usually draw that picture based on non-complete images, and things that stand out (the bad things).
We used to send nude pictures of ourselves with my gf when we were teen, and it was both for the little thrill, sexual pleasure but also for feeling love towards the other person. When we later broke up it never did cross my mind to spread them to internet. Things change, and while it hurts, you don't have to be an ass about it.
It's sometimes funny when you read about parents writings on the internet, especially slashdot, how it feels like they've completely forgotten how it was to be a teenager. Of course, you didn't have smartphones, but you had the equivalent stuff anyway.
And of course, I don't live in the US where showing a nipple on TV is a huge thing (but killing people and other violence is just fine), so maybe I'm more liberal because of that too, but you just have to accept that sexting is usual and is what teens do. Even if you didn't get to do that as a teen.
So I take it people are also granted freedom of speech as long as they say what you agree with? Likewise, people should be free to use and share software and code as long as they don't share it to someone you disagree with.
Microsoft has full right to charge licensing fees for the technology they did R&D for and invested in, especially when other companies are profiting from said investment.
They all play by the Open Source License rules. You make a change to FOSS code, AND RE-RELEASE THE PROGRAM, you must provide the source code when requested.
Like Google with Android?
I hate it when people always seem to take the phrase out of context and apply it to mean any kind of security, like network security or the old Windows/Linux battle. It's a completely different kind of situation, and in the former it's especially true that security by obscurity is a hardener layer. It's also why Linux has managed to stay as (consumer) malware free to day, even though it still has a fair share of its own worms and other security problems.
Their CEO did nothing visible? Things take time you know. And what's the line about shareholders. Usually in Slashdot people hate companies because they only do something that pleasures their shareholders. Now you're crying that they made a decision that didn't.
Linux-friendly and developing companies defend their patents too.
- MS will keep building up ways to make money off Linux. They'll spin two ways; they'll claim that their work exploiting^H^H^H^H extending Linux legitimizes their right to claim license fees for the rest of it, and they'll slowly solidify their position of "ownership" due to some bullshit patents they have.
So wait, Red Hat, Canonical, Google and other companies are all warmly welcome to contribute and make improvements, but when it's Microsoft we should go "noo, we don't play with guys like that. go away."
They're all profiting (or as you say, exploiting) Linux just the way you describe.
I think you're under assuming recent generation low-end phones. They're perfectly capable of multitasking, surfing the internet, many even have cameras. They might not have so many features, the camera quality isn't really that good, but even the cheap phones now a day can do lots of stuffs. And I actually just looked from Nokia's site. Since hardware is the most cost, I think they can do it with their Linux solution since now they're using Symbian.
Uh no, they should really drop Symbian already. It's just pain in the ass. Both to use and develop for. Best would be to only have Win7 for high-end phones and Linux for the low-end.
You know, Microsoft hasn't been with war with Open Source or Linux for years. They contribute to open source themselves, they ask for slashdotters opinion to their open source Python IDE (where 95% of you acted like dicks btw) and is in every other way come forward. The rest of the world has let it go years ago. Maybe you should too.
Just a slight correction, $400 million an year of course. And so this isn't just self-reply... Nokia has always needed help with their UI and consumer friendly part in their smartphones. I think Windows 7 is a really good choice for that, as it's actually a really user friendly OS and it already as the marketplace and other stuff ready that Nokia never got off alone. But Nokia has also done good low-end phones and they're still selling really great in Asia and in Europe too. Linux is a good choice for those, as it can run on more low-end machine and Nokia already has knowledge about it gained from MeeGo.
This means the three friends Linux-Nokia-Microsoft will be in bed together. It's not surprising considering Nokia already developed Qt and they were developing MeeGo which is based on Linux. Their Nokia N9 phone is quite awesome, actually.
Now what's great about this is the fact that with Nokia's history they have proven to put out quality hardware. They can also really use this to fight against both iPhone and what's worrisome for some, Android. Android has lots of fragmentation and patent related problems. Just yesterday it was revealed that Microsoft alone gets $400 million a day from Android.