I got the same impression. The entire review sounded like it was coming from someone who didn't want to change browsers. Any time there was a good point for Mozilla there was a counter-point stating why it could be a down side. Just seemed like the reviewer was searching for every reason for people *not* to use Mozilla.
Did you completely miss the entire Gecko portion?
My dad had similar arguements about Mozilla, he was saying it was bad because of how it rendered his FrontPage site. Then I talked him into trying it for at least five minutes, showing him why his FrontPage produced pages were rendering wrong, and taught him how to use Mozilla.
I'm not sure how FrontPage site rendering is anything like UI complaints. Mozilla does a remarkably good job dealing with crappy markup, and I mentioned that several times. Its UI is horrible, and I also mentioned that several times.
You mean incompatiblities between lazy web designers and the web standards?.. Why should the web browser pretend to be something else and bend the standards and allow those designers to continue with the non-compliant code?
Why implement a compatibility mode at all? Browsers need to handle the web as it is right now, shoddy markup and all. The rendering engine does this (purposely breaking standards to render things as they were in older IE's and Netscapes), what's so bad about user agent spoofing? CTRL + click !
You missed the point. Popups (even requested ones) will not open in another tab, and there's no way to force them to.
reasonably functional - eh... way more functional than your normal browser out there. completely inflexible - hmm, no?
The interface is completely inflexible, from the users' perspective. Users are stuck with what skin designers provided.
You are contradicting yourself! see previous point.
Not at all. Developers have a large amount of control over how things look, users do not. Most people have no interest in changing a theme in order to resize or rearrange buttons, or any other normal tweak that people are used to.
If you don't like a skin, dont use it..period. Is that not control?
That's not granular control. Sure I can swap skins, but I'm ultimately stuck with what the skin developer gave me.
- pop-ups blocking
There are plenty of pop-up blocking tools available for other browsers. The fact that one is built into Mozilla doesn't really make it a compelling choice since it doesn't offer any ground breaking options.
- tabbed browsing
As the review said, I don't like tabbed browsing. If I did like tabbed browsing, there's always Crazy Browser.
- Web standards compliant (Gecko)
I went into great detail about the web standards compliance, and even gave Gecko a great rating. Unfortunately, Gecko isn't the UI and won't improve the web browsing experience significantly over IE. Gecko's standards implementation is more complete than IE's, but it really doesn't make a whole lot of difference right now.
- Very useful plug-ins support: ie: Mouse Gestures
The same functionality is available in Opera an IE, with add ins.
- Mozilla actually prints pages on paper better than IE.
That's something I didn't even think to test. I'll have to take a look into that.
Although he makes some valuable points, you could tell right from the start, he was always defending IE. Now, thats personal taste(interest?)
@_@ It's easy to tell from the review that I prefer IE. Where exactly did you get the impression I was defending it? This wasn't an IE review, and I would have preferred not to mention IE at all, but it's impossible to rate a browser without comparing it to IE.
I realize that many professors are idiots, and most won't be able to speak in a manner that is relevant to the users' group, but there are people on campuses who can at least spark more of a discussion. Plus, many of the knowledgeable professors will point you towards the "Celebrities" and provide schedules of when they might show up.
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I got the same impression. The entire review sounded like it was coming from someone who didn't want to change browsers. Any time there was a good point for Mozilla there was a counter-point stating why it could be a down side. Just seemed like the reviewer was searching for every reason for people *not* to use Mozilla.
Did you completely miss the entire Gecko portion?
My dad had similar arguements about Mozilla, he was saying it was bad because of how it rendered his FrontPage site. Then I talked him into trying it for at least five minutes, showing him why his FrontPage produced pages were rendering wrong, and taught him how to use Mozilla.
I'm not sure how FrontPage site rendering is anything like UI complaints. Mozilla does a remarkably good job dealing with crappy markup, and I mentioned that several times. Its UI is horrible, and I also mentioned that several times.
You mean incompatiblities between lazy web designers and the web standards? .. Why should the web browser pretend
..period. Is that not control?
to be something else and bend the standards and allow those designers to continue with the non-compliant code?
Why implement a compatibility mode at all? Browsers need to handle the web as it is right now, shoddy markup and all. The rendering engine does this (purposely breaking standards to render things as they were in older IE's and Netscapes), what's so bad about user agent spoofing?
CTRL + click !
You missed the point. Popups (even requested ones) will not open in another tab, and there's no way to force them to.
reasonably functional - eh... way more functional than your normal browser out there.
completely inflexible - hmm, no?
The interface is completely inflexible, from the users' perspective. Users are stuck with what skin designers provided.
You are contradicting yourself! see previous point.
Not at all. Developers have a large amount of control over how things look, users do not. Most people have no interest in changing a theme in order to resize or rearrange buttons, or any other normal tweak that people are used to.
If you don't like a skin, dont use it
That's not granular control. Sure I can swap skins, but I'm ultimately stuck with what the skin developer gave me.
- pop-ups blocking
There are plenty of pop-up blocking tools available for other browsers. The fact that one is built into Mozilla doesn't really make it a compelling choice since it doesn't offer any ground breaking options.
- tabbed browsing
As the review said, I don't like tabbed browsing. If I did like tabbed browsing, there's always Crazy Browser.
- Web standards compliant (Gecko)
I went into great detail about the web standards compliance, and even gave Gecko a great rating. Unfortunately, Gecko isn't the UI and won't improve the web browsing experience significantly over IE. Gecko's standards implementation is more complete than IE's, but it really doesn't make a whole lot of difference right now.
- Very useful plug-ins support: ie: Mouse Gestures
The same functionality is available in Opera an IE, with add ins.
- Mozilla actually prints pages on paper better than IE.
That's something I didn't even think to test. I'll have to take a look into that.
Although he makes some valuable points, you could tell right from the start, he was always defending IE. Now, thats personal taste(interest?)
@_@ It's easy to tell from the review that I prefer IE. Where exactly did you get the impression I was defending it? This wasn't an IE review, and I would have preferred not to mention IE at all, but it's impossible to rate a browser without comparing it to IE.
I realize that many professors are idiots, and most won't be able to speak in a manner that is relevant to the users' group, but there are people on campuses who can at least spark more of a discussion. Plus, many of the knowledgeable professors will point you towards the "Celebrities" and provide schedules of when they might show up.
Don't discount the resources you already have!
That's pretty close.
Did anyone read about the Plutino rock they found between Neptune and Pluto? I love space.
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