I've always found that putting a few pebbles in a metal dustbin, rolling it down some stone steps, record it then loop it back on itself for 40 minutes creates a very close approximation to the "Mastered as Puppets" or just about any Metallicock album.
Agreed. And I've never had a single occasion where I've done a Windows installation where I've not had to go off and download drivers from somewhere else to get all the hardware working.
That doesn't mean it's a problem because when you've done it, everything works fine and everyone is happy - but the Windows people seem to conveniently forget these things when they accuse Linux of being difficult to install.
In other words all those people using Starbucks' free wifi are broadcasting their Apple ID and password to everyone else in range.
I've never owned an Apple device in my life and have no intention of ever doing so - but wrong is wrong and I have to correct you.
The passwords are encrypted over SSL and therefore anyone snooping a connection will only see gobbledigook - in no way are they broadcast in clear text.
The actual vulnerability here is that someone can, using their own constructed SSL keys, perform a man-in-the-middle attack to step into the middle of a communication - at which point they could no doubt request the password and be sent it in what would be a decryptable and readable format.
So, yes, it's a vulnerability, but whereas anyone can run sniffer traces to read packets on the wire or in the air, a man-in-the-middle attack takes a considerably higher amount of technical expertise to carry out.
Encryption (e.g. in SSL) actually serves two important purposes - it encrypts clear text such that it appears like rubbish to anyone taking a look, but it also acts as authentication security because it allows you to validate that the endpoint you are communicating with is who they say they are.
In SSH, for example, you can do away with passwords entirely by using private and public keys - the idea being that you encrypt with the private key and give the public key to the other endpoint, the algorithm used for both keys being such that when you decrypt with one you can only decrypt with the other. If you control the keys properly, then by virtue of being able to communicate with each other, you can pretty much confirm both endpoints are who they say they are.
In the case of this iMessage issue, yes the passwords are encrypted but the keys are not properly "pinned" (i.e. controlled) meaning that a third party can potentially intrude using their own keys - and because you have a valid communication with that third party, you've no reason to assume it's not Apple you are talking to, which probably makes it that much worse as a form of exploit.
The point is that encryption is only half the story, authentication is the other half...
Not at all. I hardly ever recommend Linux to non-techies because I've seen the issues it often causes.
I have absolutely no problem with intelligent discussion with anyone on the pros and cons of Linux, but why do so many of the anti-Linux people make these generalised, sweeping statements about Linux without putting any meat into their points?
Precisely what issues have you seen Linux cause?
I've given a number of friends and family the opportunity to try Linux out, mainly because they themselves tell me they don't want to end up having to use Windows 8. All of them still have Windows to use, I've either done them a dual boot on their hard disk, or made them up a bootable CD or USB stick to use when they feel like it.
I get questions asking me how to do certain things or find certain things in Linux, in which case I tell them the answer or give them a bit of help to get something to work right - but none of it's an "issue" because I help them fix it.
It's just strikes me as very selfish to say "I can't recommend it to you because I haven't got the time to help you out when there's a problem" and, to be honest, you probably are best off staying away from Linux completely if that is your attitude to helping others with it.
With all respect, I agree with him. I am both Linux and Windows person with no requirement to spend valuable CPU cycles on unnecessary eye-candy simply to impress someone who happens to look over my shoulder.
GUI interfaces need to be slick, clean and uncluttered, they need to get you to where you need to be in as few mouse-clicks and key presses as possible, whilst at the same time allowing usage of both of them for navigation.
Rotating cubes, melting windows and icons that animate other than to tell you your mouse pointer is over them have no place on any computer outside of a kindergarten classroom - Windows, OS X, or Linux, I don't care, I'm not biased.
I don't think gaming is anywhere near the big sticking point that it used to be when it comes to choosing Linux over Windows.
Microsoft essentially killed big commercial PC gaming on Windows when they took the decision to split DirectX 9 and 10 across XP and Vista respectively. Making that decision when they did hurt the Windows games development community considerably because it fragmented game development when most people were still on XP, and was precisely the scenario DirectX was designed to avoid. It wouldn't surprise me if it was a deliberate tactic by Microsoft to drive people to X-Box for their gaming needs, but it undoubtedly had a huge negative impact on commercial PC gaming releases.
In the longer term, it's actually an extremely good thing to have happened because it's killed the stranglehold big PC games companies had on Windows games and opened the floodgates for indie developers to start making games again - not to mention the impact of Kickstarter in getting games released that, under big corporate control, would never have seen the light of day.
Steam is going to be an interesting turning point for gaming on Linux, but as some analysts are already saying, the actual turning point will likely only be if and when there's a killer game on Steam for Linux (or SteamBox or whatever it's name is) that gets people buying it in their droves.
I would argue that big applications like MS Office and Photoshop are bigger obstacles to the adoption of Linux. In reality, most MS Office and Photoshop users (who are, let's face it, probably using pirated copies anyway) would find that LibreOffice and The GIMP do everything that they need to do anyway but are just too lazy and/or scared to try something new. Sure, there are a minority of "professional" users who need the specific features in MS Office, Photoshop and other big commercial Windows applications, but they really are a tiny proportion compared to the overall userbases of them.
Well that and the fact that Apple made a better Unix desktop.
I would not for one minute argue that Apple made a desktop that a lot of people like as an alternative to Windows. But you're actually arguing against the whole design ethos of OS X in that's it's designed to be simple to use for people that don't know a lot about computers. Put UNIX in front of those people and they wouldn't know where to begin - so whilst I accept it has a BSD core, OS X is not UNIX, merely a derivative of UNIX, since the command-line power tools that make people use UNIX are hidden from OS X users by default.
The people I know who switched to OSX circa 2002 were Linux users, not windows.
I don't know where you get the facts to make this statement from but it's not my experience. In 2002, the penetration of Windows XP was still very low, Microsoft was still suffering with negative backlash from Windows ME and if you wanted a reasonably good desktop Linux for the time then you had a choice of Red Hat, SuSE, Debian and Slackware (with maybe one or two others). None of these had much of the slickness and ease of installation that Linux distros do now, therefore if (like me) you were using them then, then you were probably a die-hard Linux geek anyway who was still using Windows for some stuff.
I therefore believe your statement to be false - people switching to OSX in 2002 were disillusioned Windows people, not Linux people.
Okay I know that last part has gotten better, but still every time in the past decade when I've gone to try Linux on the desktop again something hasn't worked without a workaround
Again, you're contradicting yourself. I accept you like OS X more than any other OS but OS X is specifically designed to run on a very small and specific subset of hardware which is why you can only run it on Apple machines. But then you complain that you find Linux difficult to install on a laptop that contains one of possibly thousands of possible combinations of hardware?
For your information, I recently bought a Lenovo laptop on which to run Linux and all the hardware on it ran pretty much first time with little or no difficulty. In actuality, I did a lot of research first, looked at countless laptop model specs and after a couple of weeks decided that was the model that would be the best one to work out of the box with Linux, in my price range and with the power and features that I needed. And that, incidentally, is basically the same process Apple do when they choose hardware to go in their Macs - so if you had problems with your Linux laptop then, sorry, that's your fault for not doing your research and going to ask questions from people in the know, and that's why you as a consumer have a choice of going to Apple who have done that research for you up front.
When Apple moved to Intel chips, well then we could run Windows via virtualization or bootcamp allowing people like me to have 1 machine, work, and test on both OSX & Windows.
But earlier on in your posting you said "OSX is the best of all worlds" - in which case you've again contradicted yourself by stating you need the capability to run Windows on your Mac. So which is it to be then?
No, I'm not an idiot - and the fact that you've had to resort to personal abuse just tells me I've already won this argument with you.
I'm an IT security professional who understands what makes a system insecure by virtue of what attack vectors can be used to gain access to a system, and you would be very surprised to learn that fixing vulnerabilities within an OS are only a small part of securing against those vectors being exploited - this is why good security takes a layered approach, this is why you deploy firewalls and Access Control Lists that all help to stop the wrong people getting to those vulnerabilities in the first place. It's a fact, deal with it.
Lack of common sense in a user is also an attack vector and therefore education of the user serves as mitigation to that vector - how that is or is not dealt with in the real world is irrelevant to this discussion, it exists. Period.
It borders on computer archeology.
That borders on nonsense - "computer archeology"???
Viruses and worms spread because they can blindly copy themselves across large populations of machines running similar operating environments at high-level access privileges. Two reasons why Windows is prone to viruses is because there's a lot of backwards compatibility built into it (meaning that, in theory, you can run a Windows 3.1 program on the latest Windows 8 machine) and because most users grant log themselves in with administrator level privileges so they can automatically do what they want on their machines. Both of these are conditions allowing viruses to spread.
On Linux, it is more difficult to find a common exploit existing across large populations of Linux machines to create an environment for a virus or worm to propagate in the first place - just because a machine run Linux does not mean it has the capability to run every executable placed on it. In addition to that, Linux users don't normally log in with administrator privileges all of the time so even if a virus or worm gets onto the system, it won't have the privileges it needs to do much harm to the system or to get out onto the network to other Linux machines. In other words, a Linux virus or worm could be created but it would be pointless because it wouldn't propagate very far.
Incidentally, Linux is more prone to attacks on network services that it might be running such that someone could buffer overflow a network service and cause it to drop to a shell prompt to gain access that way. On older UNIX-like systems, that can be a problem because if the service is running with root privileges then a buffer overflow drops it to a root shell prompt where a hacker can do anything he/she wants. However, much of this risk has been mitigated in recent years because Linux distro creators have done things like installing sudo (that only gives root access to users to run commands that need it when they need it), not running network services with root privileges unless they really MUST do so, and simply turning off any services that the user isn't likely to need within a default installation.
I just wanted to clarify that - yes, Linux is not immune to being exploited, it is just very unlikely to be through viruses or worms.
Eh, my webcam works fine in Windows 8 without extra support. I assume Android has SIM card drivers because of u no it's used for 'phones a lot.
About three months ago I bought a new Lenovo Ideapad laptop - it had Windows 8 installed, I couldn't buy it without it.
I installed Windows 7 on it, W7 didn't recognise either the Ethernet controller or WLAN controller out of the box, I plugged in an old Belkin USB Wireless dongle but it didn't recognise that either, and there were no Windows 7 drivers for the old USB dongle. So instead I downloaded the laptop drivers onto a USB stick on another PC and got them installed that way.
I finished the Windows 7 install then started the Gentoo Linux dual boot installation on it. The Gentoo installation CD didn't recognise either built in network interface either, but it did immediately recognise the old Belkin Wireless USB dongle - at which point I did the installation, booted it up with a recent Linux 3.10 kernel and it recognised all the network interfaces.
So all-in-all that's a win for Linux supporting older hardware and note that I didn't have to go off and download all the drivers for it - with the latest kernel it picked up everything.
Speaking as an IT person with 30+ years experience who is mainly a Linux guy but likes XP and Windows 7, I only ditched my last copy of XP (excluding virtualised ones) about 6 months ago and moved to Windows 7.
Ultimately, I like Windows 7, it's as reliable as XP (mainly because I never found XP to be unreliable) and a lot slicker on newer hardware, but then XP was starting to get clunky with newer machines.
But I hated Windows 7 when I first started with it, it seemed that stuff (especially in Control Panel) had been moved around for no readily apparent reason and a couple of months to comfortably find everything I wanted to as quickly as I could in XP.
My point is that it took even an IT geek a couple of months to get used to a new OS, so why is this any different for "Joe Sixpack" ditching XP and moving to, say, Linux Mint with it's Cinnamon interface that is very similar to the XP layout.
It's all just about familiarity and I am sure every Microsoft-focused person out there suffered some initial infuriation when they fired up Windows 7 for the first time and saw how different a lot of it is from XP. Yes, we all got used to it and like it now, but that time to familiarise was still there, even if you choose not to acknowledge it.
Yea! Except thats the MOST COMMON ATTACK VECTOR out there. Most viruses are coming from "legitimate" websites which either have ads or have been hacked and are serving up infected PDF, Java, or flash objects.
With all respect, much of that still comes down to common sense of the user. Why would someone like me, with years of experience in IT and IT security, blindly open every PDF, Flash Object or Java app that is fired at me? And much of this comes down to keeping the appropriate executables updated - it's the PDF, Flash Object or Java program exploiting a vulnerability in the unpatched executable dealing with that format that's the problem - if you keep those updated regularly and avoid dodgy sites serving them, you've mitigated against most of those attack vectors full stop.
As for ads, yes, it can happen that malware is served up within those - but again, highly unlikely in legitimate sites and mostly mitigated with a good ad-blocker.
Your experience is wrong, and Id suspect is the result of confirmation bias.
I've no idea what "confirmation bias" means, I've never come across that term before. I can only go by my experience in the industry and what I've seen with my own eyes. I've used XP since around 2003, in all that time I've had one piece of malware on any one of my PCs and I believe that came from downloading a dodgy zip file of an ancient DOS game I was after that I couldn't find anywhere else. I've never used anything more than a basic free virus checker, most recently Microsoft Security Essentials. Don't believe me, I don't care.
In business settings ive been in, ive seen countless viruses appear in the morning (8-9AM) on receptionist PCs where the user visiting a "dodgy site" is incredibly unlikely, and their browser history has tended to prove that.
In my experience, receptionists tend to be the brunt of practical jokes within their own organisations and IT people frequently work overnight - put the two together and I'd definitely want to rule out internal (to the organisation) tampering as a possible cause. I'd also consider the possibility of the receptionist herself unknowingly installing a trojan program which, over a longer of period of time, installed other malware on her machine. Just because it's there in the morning doesn't mean that what installed it only appeared during that previous night.
But I would argue that given that I personally don't do professional-level graphics editing, I cannot justify the expense of a fully licensed copy of Photoshop. Therefore I have a choice of either using a free alternative like GIMP (which is what I do in reality) or downloading a free warez-d copy of Photoshop.
Given that warez-d copy would be extremely likely to contain malware which will, at some point, do some damage to my PC that I would inevitably have to investigate and fix, then I would argue that investing time in learning GIMP without any risk of malware is the better option of the two.
I don't claim to be as much an expert on Windows 7 as I am on Linux and perhaps XP, but the only additional security that I understand Windows 7 has but XP doesn't is the UAC stuff - and that's primarily there to stop idiots who are logged in with administrator privileges not allowing everything to run that asks to run.
If you are the average clueless user that used to use XP that has migrated to Windows 7, are you suddenly going to start paying attention to UAC prompts asking you questions?
And please define what you mean by "EOL'd" when applied to Linux 2.4? Yes, development has stopped on the 2.4 branch but I am sure there are still many individuals and organisations using it, and any vulnerabilities in it can be mitigated through backporting of existing patches or other external mitigation. Either of those two might be easier solutions for certain organisations than upgrading to a later kernel.
With closed source software that has some Internet functionality, there's a strong case for buying the latest upgrades in order to avoid security issues - but there are, as I've shown, other alternatives open to you with Open Source software, not least to fix the vulnerability yourself.
Agreed. But unless you've got someone there ready to do a man-in-the-middle attack at that moment in time, it's extremely unlikely.
Again, it comes down to how important and big a target you are for hackers - the vast majority of home user machines are owned through automated scripts and bots in drive-by attacks, not because some seasoned hacker is sat there physically waiting for you to do something that he/she can exploit.
I do wish people would remove from their minds the notion that "newer always is better".
There is absolutely NO reason to not be running a Linux kernel 2.0 with fvwm95 if it delivers what is required on the system on which it is running - why would you upgrade a system which is perfectly happy running this set up?
Sorry, you do not know what you are talking about.
In the *MAJORITY* of home installations, people access the Internet via a NAT router that "translates" the internal *NON-ROUTABLE* IP address of the user's PC to the *ROUTABLE* IP address of the router's Internet interface, as assigned by the user's ISP. Note that the router's IP address is not usually a static one and will change as a result of DHCP on a reasonably regular basis anyway.
A hacker will therefore only ever see the IP address of the router, not the IP address of the user's PC. Yes, the hacker *COULD* attack the router and *IF* the router has a security hole he/she could exploit then an attack is possible. However, unless the router has crappy firmware, has an administration interface with a crackable password exposed to the Internet, and/or an open incoming port that routes into the internal network, then any attack is extremely unlikely.
If you get a piece of malware on your computer then, yes, it can have the ability to open a connection to a hacker and allow him/her to do what he/she wants. But in a home environment, that malware will exist because the user has done something stupid - either gone to a dodgy web site and dowloaded it or installed it as part of some warez the user has got hold of.
Hackers are not particularly interested in wasting their time on "small fry" home users. They prefer to attack bigger targets like corporations and usually leave it to bots and scripts to find ways of owning user PCs that can then be used as owned machines in mass attacks on those bigger targets.
There are millions and millions of devices on the Internet, scripts and bots have limited intelligence and therefore if you know some of the basics about Internet security (essentially not opening unnecessary ports on your router, turning off Internet-exposed router admin interfaces, not installing dodgy software, not visiting dodgy sites, not opening dodgy emails) then you are reasonably secure no matter what OS you run.
Only a Linux hater would reply so stupidly also...
Someone who is still running XP probably isn't that interested in modern games or modern leading-edge applications. Maybe they still run XP because they don't like paying for software upgrades that they consider pointless for their own use. Maybe they even run a hacked copy of Microsoft Office, for example.
Very few people actually need the majority of features in big heavy applications like Microsoft Office or Photoshop, for most of them it's just a case of getting accustomed to a new UI, LibreOffice or The GIMP.
I'm the tech geek for a large circle of friends and family and have moved a number of them over to Linux Mint after they came to me wanting something better than XP now that it's going out of support. I've had a few calls and done a few house visits but all of them are pleased with what it does, none of them needed to do heavy macro work in documents or heavy graphics editing.
If you're going to hate then at least do so from a position of knowledge and experience rather than one based on FUD. I myself run XP and Windows 7, I like both of them and use them for stuff that is more difficult to do than it is Linux. Yes, I'm mostly Linux user but a computer is merely a collection of tools to get jobs done and I don't believe in "cutting my nose off to spite my face" - I just use the best tool for the job and really couldn't give a toss what OS it ultimately runs on.
For any PC to get owned that is tucked behind a NAT router, it's the user that has to do something stupid first.
If all you ever do is use a web browser to go to well-known sites and you know how to read and interpret a URL, then unless one of those sites has been hacked and some malware has been injected into it, nothing will happen to you. In my experience in computer and Internet security, it's going to dodgy sites for pr0n or warez that opens the doors to something nasty.
Likewise for email - don't use a client like Outlook that has deep hooks into the OS, use a lighter client and always delete emails that are from sources you don't trust.
Security has very little to do with what's built into the OS, it is far more about educating users to understand what the likely attack vectors are and to moderate their own behaviours to mitigate their risk of being exposed to those vectors.
Attacks that aren't coming from the router could only be on the local network by implication, so that possibly means locking down wi-fi and making sure any devices on the local network are locked down with secure passwords on all accounts.
But the above would apply to computers running *ANY* OS, not just XP...
Sorry, where are the figures that prove your sweeping statement?
I know of nobody who has ditched a PC for a tablet and can count on one hand the number of people who have swapped their PC for a Mac - I can probably count on two hands the number of people who are trying Linux alongside Windows or have ditched Windows for Linux. Still not a lot but more than those converted to Mac.
Only an elite few spend top dollar on desktop PCs or Macs - for most people "cheap and cheerful" is good enough, and they're never going to go out and spend as much as twice as much on a Mac.
Tablets have found a niche in the market - they're entertainment devices for those who both do and don't use PCs, but bugger all use if you need to write big documents, do spreadsheets or stuff like serious video editing.
Incidentally, I am and have been in the IT industry as a technical person for 30+ years now, so I see with my own eyes the new trends in computing as they happen - and I certainly do not see what you describe although, admittedly, I'm outside of the USA where Mac usage is much much lower anyway.
I think you are confusing "care about Open Source software" with "care about getting stuff for free".
Don't get me wrong, I've been a big Linux and UNIX guy for a couple of decades now, I'm also the "IT bloke" that gets everyone else's PCs to fix and repair. I've turned a lot of friends and family into using Open Source applications (mostly on Windows), especially when I have found illegally installed commercial software on their PCs and told them I won't do a thing to repair their PCs unless they un-install all hooky software or go pay for registered versions of it. I'm not wasting my time killing malware that they let in through the back door with copied software/
I explain Open Source to them when I'm showing them the basics of GIMP or LibreOffice, some of them get it, most just like the idea of free stuff that probably isn't plagued with malware and viruses.
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I do hope you're not one of those Windows people who refuses to try Linux "because there is no single standard desktop environment".
I've always found that putting a few pebbles in a metal dustbin, rolling it down some stone steps, record it then loop it back on itself for 40 minutes creates a very close approximation to the "Mastered as Puppets" or just about any Metallicock album.
It could just be that with the average Metallica fan being 5 years of age, they struggle to use the Internet anyway...
Agreed. And I've never had a single occasion where I've done a Windows installation where I've not had to go off and download drivers from somewhere else to get all the hardware working.
That doesn't mean it's a problem because when you've done it, everything works fine and everyone is happy - but the Windows people seem to conveniently forget these things when they accuse Linux of being difficult to install.
In other words all those people using Starbucks' free wifi are broadcasting their Apple ID and password to everyone else in range.
I've never owned an Apple device in my life and have no intention of ever doing so - but wrong is wrong and I have to correct you.
The passwords are encrypted over SSL and therefore anyone snooping a connection will only see gobbledigook - in no way are they broadcast in clear text.
The actual vulnerability here is that someone can, using their own constructed SSL keys, perform a man-in-the-middle attack to step into the middle of a communication - at which point they could no doubt request the password and be sent it in what would be a decryptable and readable format.
So, yes, it's a vulnerability, but whereas anyone can run sniffer traces to read packets on the wire or in the air, a man-in-the-middle attack takes a considerably higher amount of technical expertise to carry out.
Encryption (e.g. in SSL) actually serves two important purposes - it encrypts clear text such that it appears like rubbish to anyone taking a look, but it also acts as authentication security because it allows you to validate that the endpoint you are communicating with is who they say they are.
In SSH, for example, you can do away with passwords entirely by using private and public keys - the idea being that you encrypt with the private key and give the public key to the other endpoint, the algorithm used for both keys being such that when you decrypt with one you can only decrypt with the other. If you control the keys properly, then by virtue of being able to communicate with each other, you can pretty much confirm both endpoints are who they say they are.
In the case of this iMessage issue, yes the passwords are encrypted but the keys are not properly "pinned" (i.e. controlled) meaning that a third party can potentially intrude using their own keys - and because you have a valid communication with that third party, you've no reason to assume it's not Apple you are talking to, which probably makes it that much worse as a form of exploit.
The point is that encryption is only half the story, authentication is the other half...
Not at all. I hardly ever recommend Linux to non-techies because I've seen the issues it often causes.
I have absolutely no problem with intelligent discussion with anyone on the pros and cons of Linux, but why do so many of the anti-Linux people make these generalised, sweeping statements about Linux without putting any meat into their points?
Precisely what issues have you seen Linux cause?
I've given a number of friends and family the opportunity to try Linux out, mainly because they themselves tell me they don't want to end up having to use Windows 8. All of them still have Windows to use, I've either done them a dual boot on their hard disk, or made them up a bootable CD or USB stick to use when they feel like it.
I get questions asking me how to do certain things or find certain things in Linux, in which case I tell them the answer or give them a bit of help to get something to work right - but none of it's an "issue" because I help them fix it.
It's just strikes me as very selfish to say "I can't recommend it to you because I haven't got the time to help you out when there's a problem" and, to be honest, you probably are best off staying away from Linux completely if that is your attitude to helping others with it.
With all respect, I agree with him. I am both Linux and Windows person with no requirement to spend valuable CPU cycles on unnecessary eye-candy simply to impress someone who happens to look over my shoulder.
GUI interfaces need to be slick, clean and uncluttered, they need to get you to where you need to be in as few mouse-clicks and key presses as possible, whilst at the same time allowing usage of both of them for navigation.
Rotating cubes, melting windows and icons that animate other than to tell you your mouse pointer is over them have no place on any computer outside of a kindergarten classroom - Windows, OS X, or Linux, I don't care, I'm not biased.
I don't think gaming is anywhere near the big sticking point that it used to be when it comes to choosing Linux over Windows.
Microsoft essentially killed big commercial PC gaming on Windows when they took the decision to split DirectX 9 and 10 across XP and Vista respectively. Making that decision when they did hurt the Windows games development community considerably because it fragmented game development when most people were still on XP, and was precisely the scenario DirectX was designed to avoid. It wouldn't surprise me if it was a deliberate tactic by Microsoft to drive people to X-Box for their gaming needs, but it undoubtedly had a huge negative impact on commercial PC gaming releases.
In the longer term, it's actually an extremely good thing to have happened because it's killed the stranglehold big PC games companies had on Windows games and opened the floodgates for indie developers to start making games again - not to mention the impact of Kickstarter in getting games released that, under big corporate control, would never have seen the light of day.
Steam is going to be an interesting turning point for gaming on Linux, but as some analysts are already saying, the actual turning point will likely only be if and when there's a killer game on Steam for Linux (or SteamBox or whatever it's name is) that gets people buying it in their droves.
I would argue that big applications like MS Office and Photoshop are bigger obstacles to the adoption of Linux. In reality, most MS Office and Photoshop users (who are, let's face it, probably using pirated copies anyway) would find that LibreOffice and The GIMP do everything that they need to do anyway but are just too lazy and/or scared to try something new. Sure, there are a minority of "professional" users who need the specific features in MS Office, Photoshop and other big commercial Windows applications, but they really are a tiny proportion compared to the overall userbases of them.
Well that and the fact that Apple made a better Unix desktop.
I would not for one minute argue that Apple made a desktop that a lot of people like as an alternative to Windows. But you're actually arguing against the whole design ethos of OS X in that's it's designed to be simple to use for people that don't know a lot about computers. Put UNIX in front of those people and they wouldn't know where to begin - so whilst I accept it has a BSD core, OS X is not UNIX, merely a derivative of UNIX, since the command-line power tools that make people use UNIX are hidden from OS X users by default.
The people I know who switched to OSX circa 2002 were Linux users, not windows.
I don't know where you get the facts to make this statement from but it's not my experience. In 2002, the penetration of Windows XP was still very low, Microsoft was still suffering with negative backlash from Windows ME and if you wanted a reasonably good desktop Linux for the time then you had a choice of Red Hat, SuSE, Debian and Slackware (with maybe one or two others). None of these had much of the slickness and ease of installation that Linux distros do now, therefore if (like me) you were using them then, then you were probably a die-hard Linux geek anyway who was still using Windows for some stuff.
I therefore believe your statement to be false - people switching to OSX in 2002 were disillusioned Windows people, not Linux people.
Okay I know that last part has gotten better, but still every time in the past decade when I've gone to try Linux on the desktop again something hasn't worked without a workaround
Again, you're contradicting yourself. I accept you like OS X more than any other OS but OS X is specifically designed to run on a very small and specific subset of hardware which is why you can only run it on Apple machines. But then you complain that you find Linux difficult to install on a laptop that contains one of possibly thousands of possible combinations of hardware?
For your information, I recently bought a Lenovo laptop on which to run Linux and all the hardware on it ran pretty much first time with little or no difficulty. In actuality, I did a lot of research first, looked at countless laptop model specs and after a couple of weeks decided that was the model that would be the best one to work out of the box with Linux, in my price range and with the power and features that I needed. And that, incidentally, is basically the same process Apple do when they choose hardware to go in their Macs - so if you had problems with your Linux laptop then, sorry, that's your fault for not doing your research and going to ask questions from people in the know, and that's why you as a consumer have a choice of going to Apple who have done that research for you up front.
When Apple moved to Intel chips, well then we could run Windows via virtualization or bootcamp allowing people like me to have 1 machine, work, and test on both OSX & Windows.
But earlier on in your posting you said "OSX is the best of all worlds" - in which case you've again contradicted yourself by stating you need the capability to run Windows on your Mac. So which is it to be then?
No, I'm not an idiot - and the fact that you've had to resort to personal abuse just tells me I've already won this argument with you.
I'm an IT security professional who understands what makes a system insecure by virtue of what attack vectors can be used to gain access to a system, and you would be very surprised to learn that fixing vulnerabilities within an OS are only a small part of securing against those vectors being exploited - this is why good security takes a layered approach, this is why you deploy firewalls and Access Control Lists that all help to stop the wrong people getting to those vulnerabilities in the first place. It's a fact, deal with it.
Lack of common sense in a user is also an attack vector and therefore education of the user serves as mitigation to that vector - how that is or is not dealt with in the real world is irrelevant to this discussion, it exists. Period.
It borders on computer archeology.
That borders on nonsense - "computer archeology"???
Linux isn't immune to viruses and worms.
Actually, by virtue of design, it pretty much is.
Viruses and worms spread because they can blindly copy themselves across large populations of machines running similar operating environments at high-level access privileges. Two reasons why Windows is prone to viruses is because there's a lot of backwards compatibility built into it (meaning that, in theory, you can run a Windows 3.1 program on the latest Windows 8 machine) and because most users grant log themselves in with administrator level privileges so they can automatically do what they want on their machines. Both of these are conditions allowing viruses to spread.
On Linux, it is more difficult to find a common exploit existing across large populations of Linux machines to create an environment for a virus or worm to propagate in the first place - just because a machine run Linux does not mean it has the capability to run every executable placed on it. In addition to that, Linux users don't normally log in with administrator privileges all of the time so even if a virus or worm gets onto the system, it won't have the privileges it needs to do much harm to the system or to get out onto the network to other Linux machines. In other words, a Linux virus or worm could be created but it would be pointless because it wouldn't propagate very far.
Incidentally, Linux is more prone to attacks on network services that it might be running such that someone could buffer overflow a network service and cause it to drop to a shell prompt to gain access that way. On older UNIX-like systems, that can be a problem because if the service is running with root privileges then a buffer overflow drops it to a root shell prompt where a hacker can do anything he/she wants. However, much of this risk has been mitigated in recent years because Linux distro creators have done things like installing sudo (that only gives root access to users to run commands that need it when they need it), not running network services with root privileges unless they really MUST do so, and simply turning off any services that the user isn't likely to need within a default installation.
I just wanted to clarify that - yes, Linux is not immune to being exploited, it is just very unlikely to be through viruses or worms.
Eh, my webcam works fine in Windows 8 without extra support. I assume Android has SIM card drivers because of u no it's used for 'phones a lot.
About three months ago I bought a new Lenovo Ideapad laptop - it had Windows 8 installed, I couldn't buy it without it.
I installed Windows 7 on it, W7 didn't recognise either the Ethernet controller or WLAN controller out of the box, I plugged in an old Belkin USB Wireless dongle but it didn't recognise that either, and there were no Windows 7 drivers for the old USB dongle. So instead I downloaded the laptop drivers onto a USB stick on another PC and got them installed that way.
I finished the Windows 7 install then started the Gentoo Linux dual boot installation on it. The Gentoo installation CD didn't recognise either built in network interface either, but it did immediately recognise the old Belkin Wireless USB dongle - at which point I did the installation, booted it up with a recent Linux 3.10 kernel and it recognised all the network interfaces.
So all-in-all that's a win for Linux supporting older hardware and note that I didn't have to go off and download all the drivers for it - with the latest kernel it picked up everything.
Speaking as an IT person with 30+ years experience who is mainly a Linux guy but likes XP and Windows 7, I only ditched my last copy of XP (excluding virtualised ones) about 6 months ago and moved to Windows 7.
Ultimately, I like Windows 7, it's as reliable as XP (mainly because I never found XP to be unreliable) and a lot slicker on newer hardware, but then XP was starting to get clunky with newer machines.
But I hated Windows 7 when I first started with it, it seemed that stuff (especially in Control Panel) had been moved around for no readily apparent reason and a couple of months to comfortably find everything I wanted to as quickly as I could in XP.
My point is that it took even an IT geek a couple of months to get used to a new OS, so why is this any different for "Joe Sixpack" ditching XP and moving to, say, Linux Mint with it's Cinnamon interface that is very similar to the XP layout.
It's all just about familiarity and I am sure every Microsoft-focused person out there suffered some initial infuriation when they fired up Windows 7 for the first time and saw how different a lot of it is from XP. Yes, we all got used to it and like it now, but that time to familiarise was still there, even if you choose not to acknowledge it.
Yea! Except thats the MOST COMMON ATTACK VECTOR out there. Most viruses are coming from "legitimate" websites which either have ads or have been hacked and are serving up infected PDF, Java, or flash objects.
With all respect, much of that still comes down to common sense of the user. Why would someone like me, with years of experience in IT and IT security, blindly open every PDF, Flash Object or Java app that is fired at me? And much of this comes down to keeping the appropriate executables updated - it's the PDF, Flash Object or Java program exploiting a vulnerability in the unpatched executable dealing with that format that's the problem - if you keep those updated regularly and avoid dodgy sites serving them, you've mitigated against most of those attack vectors full stop.
As for ads, yes, it can happen that malware is served up within those - but again, highly unlikely in legitimate sites and mostly mitigated with a good ad-blocker.
Your experience is wrong, and Id suspect is the result of confirmation bias.
I've no idea what "confirmation bias" means, I've never come across that term before. I can only go by my experience in the industry and what I've seen with my own eyes. I've used XP since around 2003, in all that time I've had one piece of malware on any one of my PCs and I believe that came from downloading a dodgy zip file of an ancient DOS game I was after that I couldn't find anywhere else. I've never used anything more than a basic free virus checker, most recently Microsoft Security Essentials. Don't believe me, I don't care.
In business settings ive been in, ive seen countless viruses appear in the morning (8-9AM) on receptionist PCs where the user visiting a "dodgy site" is incredibly unlikely, and their browser history has tended to prove that.
In my experience, receptionists tend to be the brunt of practical jokes within their own organisations and IT people frequently work overnight - put the two together and I'd definitely want to rule out internal (to the organisation) tampering as a possible cause. I'd also consider the possibility of the receptionist herself unknowingly installing a trojan program which, over a longer of period of time, installed other malware on her machine. Just because it's there in the morning doesn't mean that what installed it only appeared during that previous night.
That's your opinion and you are entitled to it.
But I would argue that given that I personally don't do professional-level graphics editing, I cannot justify the expense of a fully licensed copy of Photoshop. Therefore I have a choice of either using a free alternative like GIMP (which is what I do in reality) or downloading a free warez-d copy of Photoshop.
Given that warez-d copy would be extremely likely to contain malware which will, at some point, do some damage to my PC that I would inevitably have to investigate and fix, then I would argue that investing time in learning GIMP without any risk of malware is the better option of the two.
I don't claim to be as much an expert on Windows 7 as I am on Linux and perhaps XP, but the only additional security that I understand Windows 7 has but XP doesn't is the UAC stuff - and that's primarily there to stop idiots who are logged in with administrator privileges not allowing everything to run that asks to run.
If you are the average clueless user that used to use XP that has migrated to Windows 7, are you suddenly going to start paying attention to UAC prompts asking you questions?
And please define what you mean by "EOL'd" when applied to Linux 2.4? Yes, development has stopped on the 2.4 branch but I am sure there are still many individuals and organisations using it, and any vulnerabilities in it can be mitigated through backporting of existing patches or other external mitigation. Either of those two might be easier solutions for certain organisations than upgrading to a later kernel.
With closed source software that has some Internet functionality, there's a strong case for buying the latest upgrades in order to avoid security issues - but there are, as I've shown, other alternatives open to you with Open Source software, not least to fix the vulnerability yourself.
Agreed. But unless you've got someone there ready to do a man-in-the-middle attack at that moment in time, it's extremely unlikely.
Again, it comes down to how important and big a target you are for hackers - the vast majority of home user machines are owned through automated scripts and bots in drive-by attacks, not because some seasoned hacker is sat there physically waiting for you to do something that he/she can exploit.
Or fvwm95 on Linux kernel 2.0.
I do wish people would remove from their minds the notion that "newer always is better".
There is absolutely NO reason to not be running a Linux kernel 2.0 with fvwm95 if it delivers what is required on the system on which it is running - why would you upgrade a system which is perfectly happy running this set up?
Sorry, you do not know what you are talking about.
In the *MAJORITY* of home installations, people access the Internet via a NAT router that "translates" the internal *NON-ROUTABLE* IP address of the user's PC to the *ROUTABLE* IP address of the router's Internet interface, as assigned by the user's ISP. Note that the router's IP address is not usually a static one and will change as a result of DHCP on a reasonably regular basis anyway.
A hacker will therefore only ever see the IP address of the router, not the IP address of the user's PC. Yes, the hacker *COULD* attack the router and *IF* the router has a security hole he/she could exploit then an attack is possible. However, unless the router has crappy firmware, has an administration interface with a crackable password exposed to the Internet, and/or an open incoming port that routes into the internal network, then any attack is extremely unlikely.
If you get a piece of malware on your computer then, yes, it can have the ability to open a connection to a hacker and allow him/her to do what he/she wants. But in a home environment, that malware will exist because the user has done something stupid - either gone to a dodgy web site and dowloaded it or installed it as part of some warez the user has got hold of.
Hackers are not particularly interested in wasting their time on "small fry" home users. They prefer to attack bigger targets like corporations and usually leave it to bots and scripts to find ways of owning user PCs that can then be used as owned machines in mass attacks on those bigger targets.
There are millions and millions of devices on the Internet, scripts and bots have limited intelligence and therefore if you know some of the basics about Internet security (essentially not opening unnecessary ports on your router, turning off Internet-exposed router admin interfaces, not installing dodgy software, not visiting dodgy sites, not opening dodgy emails) then you are reasonably secure no matter what OS you run.
Only a Linux hater would reply so stupidly also...
Someone who is still running XP probably isn't that interested in modern games or modern leading-edge applications. Maybe they still run XP because they don't like paying for software upgrades that they consider pointless for their own use. Maybe they even run a hacked copy of Microsoft Office, for example.
Very few people actually need the majority of features in big heavy applications like Microsoft Office or Photoshop, for most of them it's just a case of getting accustomed to a new UI, LibreOffice or The GIMP.
I'm the tech geek for a large circle of friends and family and have moved a number of them over to Linux Mint after they came to me wanting something better than XP now that it's going out of support. I've had a few calls and done a few house visits but all of them are pleased with what it does, none of them needed to do heavy macro work in documents or heavy graphics editing.
If you're going to hate then at least do so from a position of knowledge and experience rather than one based on FUD. I myself run XP and Windows 7, I like both of them and use them for stuff that is more difficult to do than it is Linux. Yes, I'm mostly Linux user but a computer is merely a collection of tools to get jobs done and I don't believe in "cutting my nose off to spite my face" - I just use the best tool for the job and really couldn't give a toss what OS it ultimately runs on.
Rubbish!
For any PC to get owned that is tucked behind a NAT router, it's the user that has to do something stupid first.
If all you ever do is use a web browser to go to well-known sites and you know how to read and interpret a URL, then unless one of those sites has been hacked and some malware has been injected into it, nothing will happen to you. In my experience in computer and Internet security, it's going to dodgy sites for pr0n or warez that opens the doors to something nasty.
Likewise for email - don't use a client like Outlook that has deep hooks into the OS, use a lighter client and always delete emails that are from sources you don't trust.
Security has very little to do with what's built into the OS, it is far more about educating users to understand what the likely attack vectors are and to moderate their own behaviours to mitigate their risk of being exposed to those vectors.
Most attacks will not come through the router
Erm, explain?
Attacks that aren't coming from the router could only be on the local network by implication, so that possibly means locking down wi-fi and making sure any devices on the local network are locked down with secure passwords on all accounts.
But the above would apply to computers running *ANY* OS, not just XP...
Sorry, where are the figures that prove your sweeping statement?
I know of nobody who has ditched a PC for a tablet and can count on one hand the number of people who have swapped their PC for a Mac - I can probably count on two hands the number of people who are trying Linux alongside Windows or have ditched Windows for Linux. Still not a lot but more than those converted to Mac.
Only an elite few spend top dollar on desktop PCs or Macs - for most people "cheap and cheerful" is good enough, and they're never going to go out and spend as much as twice as much on a Mac.
Tablets have found a niche in the market - they're entertainment devices for those who both do and don't use PCs, but bugger all use if you need to write big documents, do spreadsheets or stuff like serious video editing.
Incidentally, I am and have been in the IT industry as a technical person for 30+ years now, so I see with my own eyes the new trends in computing as they happen - and I certainly do not see what you describe although, admittedly, I'm outside of the USA where Mac usage is much much lower anyway.
I think you are confusing "care about Open Source software" with "care about getting stuff for free".
Don't get me wrong, I've been a big Linux and UNIX guy for a couple of decades now, I'm also the "IT bloke" that gets everyone else's PCs to fix and repair. I've turned a lot of friends and family into using Open Source applications (mostly on Windows), especially when I have found illegally installed commercial software on their PCs and told them I won't do a thing to repair their PCs unless they un-install all hooky software or go pay for registered versions of it. I'm not wasting my time killing malware that they let in through the back door with copied software/
I explain Open Source to them when I'm showing them the basics of GIMP or LibreOffice, some of them get it, most just like the idea of free stuff that probably isn't plagued with malware and viruses.