"This has no relevance, but I'm abusing Slashdot to say that I think Bush is a rotten candidate, and while I don't like Gore, I would vote for a malignant carbon rod for president before I would vote for GWB."
Abusing Slashdot?
Au contraire..
Taco's comments are very relevant, and he should use the bully pulpit to state his position as he chooses..
Regarding Gore and Bush: there's some valid point to saying that they're each clones of the other, and that one is a Republicrat while the other is a Democran, but to someone who's been following American politics in depth since the early 50's, there's still a meaningful difference between the two parties.
Ol' GW is the most recent Republican puppet-candidate since Reagan: they both were/are idiots, and they both were/are puppet fronts for the men in the shadows who are really calling the shots.
Gore? Well, he's not GeeDub-ya, and he's not a Republican..
Finally: to piss-off anyone I haven't offended already:
Nader?
Sure. Throw your vote away on total symbolism.
The idea that one person's vote doesn't count is nonsense: one individual vote is all any of us have.
If this gets down to bein' really close in November, ask yourself if a vote for symbolism is not really a vote for Bush.
"HotMail has commenced its much awaited migration to a Microsoft operating system. Some Windows 2000 machines have recently been moved into the load balancing pool, with currently between 90-95% of requests being served by the established FreeBSD/Apache platform, and 5-10% from Windows 2000. The Hotmail site infrastructure is enormous, and even if everything runs smoothly, a migration will likely take several weeks."
I'm not sure why several people have gone off on/. for attributing this story to an AC, saying that it's FUD, or that/. is about to collapse under bias..
C'mon folks, this is what Netcraft has said;/. is merely quoting them.
Click on the link and go read it, and deal with it..
It's about a third of the way down the page, under Around the Net
t_t_b -- I think not; therefore I ain't®
Re:Predicted Slashdot response to Katz's argument
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I went with my kid and her boyfriend; it's not cheap: $20 for adults; $16 for high school kids; $15 (?) for younger kids.. Allow *lots* of time; we had about four hours and didn't even scratch the surface.
If you're not familiar with the story behind the EMP it will seem to be an odd collection: some groups were missing entirely from what little I saw: the "Milestones" exhibit had no reference to the Beattle or the Stones, but covered Britain through the Yardbirds, the Cream, Blind Faith, Derick and the Dominoes, Steve Winwood, and Eric Clapton.
Janis Joplin is very well covered; as is Bo Diddley, BB King, and the very early country/R&B/rock genesis.
There's the hint as to what's going on: this is an entirely personal collection on display here, from someone who loves music and musicians and bands and the guitar particularily.
But there's a lot of depth that you wouldn't expect and couldn't get from a publicly funded "museum" about rock: one fabulous display goes into tremendous depth about the New York grafitti scene of the late 70' and the '80, right down to having actual sketch books from some of the artists involved..
And this segues into hip-hop, and the DJ/mixing scene, and punk, and on and on..
It's fabulous!
I didn't get into the Jimi Hendrix Gallery; I did see "RIAA" once: on the actual gold album award Jimi received for "Axis Bold as Love".
Geek note: the MEG (Museum Exhibit Guide) is a device about the size of, and a little heavier than, an early cassette recorder. It sits down on your right hip and has a strap that goes over your head and onto your left sholder; battery powered; 3"x4" LCD display; headphones; touchscreen and cursor buttons and a numeric keypad; you point the keypad at (sometimes hard-to-see) infrared xmitters at each display and you press "Select" and the MEG reads where it is from the xmitter and "Loading" appears and A LONG TIME later the narration begins and a menu that accesses specific exhibit details comes up...
A LONG TIME is about 5-7 seconds: it's hard to picture *what* is taking so long, and that confuses guesses about *what* MEG is: I'd guess it's got an hdd in it, but what kind of OS takes so long to read in it's location and find and display the relevant naration had me puzzled.
It's not obtrusive at all, but it kept me mildly curious as to what was in it; there's absolutely *no* markings of any kind on the case to give you a clue: it looks as though EMP builds 'em themselves.
I suspect the weight and size of the thing are merely anti-theft: there's certainly no reason it couldn't be a lot smaller...
The MEG was pretty cool, too: when I went off to get in a line for the Hendrix Gallery, I was still able to bring up the narrations for all the specific objects on display at the last place I'd been: the LA punk scene, and listen to stuff as I was waiting.
Many adults seemed baffled by MEG; kids (of course..) took right to it..
Anyway, the EMP is pretty cool, if you *really* *like* *music* - if you live in Metro Puget Sound, Go!
If you're travelling into Metro Puget Sound on business or pleasure, Go!
If you can't think of any other excuse, fly in, see EMP, and then leave;-) -- and be sure to tell everyone how much it rained.
Actually, with the short play-lists that most radio stations have, you'll probably never hear most of the tracks on even the biggest-hit CD.
Which is yet another example of the stranglehold the RIAA has on the music industry: the variety of artists you'll hear on any mainstream, popular station is very narrow, and you won't hear but one or two of that artists's work, anyway...
"Whether you feel that unauthorized copying of music is a basic human right, the moral equivalent of "sharing" for yourself merchandise from Tower Records' loading dock, or somewhere in the fuzzy gray area between..."
Ok: so we've beat to death whether the sharing of copies of tracks off CD via Napster is sharing or stealing; personally, I still come down on the sharing side of the issue: I own the CD, I make a copy of what I own, I can share it any way I want.
That's what I think; deal with it...
I've pointed out elsewhere that two-well cassette decks, and blank cassette tapes, and blank VHS tapes, and all the other paraphenalia of what is obviously a process of copying of either music or movies have been in existence for, well, decades.
The RIAA (and the MPAA) has made absolutely no issue whatsoever of the obvious existence of widespread copying by private purchasers for all this time.
Now, suddenly, when it's become possible to make good-quality copies, fast, and distribute the copies quickly, it's become a Big Deal®
Personally, I think the Big Deal® for the RIAA particularily is a loss of control over their lock on the chain of distribution.
Is there not some legal concept, applicable here, which states that failure to exercise one's legal rights against previous blatant copying, dilutes one's right to suddenly make copying such an issue?
Regarding land, I can lose some of my private property if I do not actively restrain your blatant encroachment and that encroachment persists for ten years.
Obviously, IAGIANAL, but I do wonder if it's possible to ask: "If this copying is such goddam big deal, where have you folks been all this time?"
"That's a nicely constructed sentence, implying that people have spent billions of dollars on online music -- when in fact the whole point of Napster is that people have spent exactly zero dollars on the music."
That is utterly untrue.
The CD's that the MP3's were ripped from were lawfully purchased, they were neither shoplifted nor stolen off some loading dock.
"You mean set the tone that artists actually have some right not to have their work ripped off for free?"
You utterly ignore the issue that most music artists will strongly state that it is they who are being ripped-off by the RIAA.
"In most cases a modest advance against royalties was all the money I received for my participation in these recording projects."
"The only money I've received for these albums was the modest advance paid prior to each recording."
"Even though the song "Don't You Write Her Off" was a top 40 hit, the only money I received from Capitol Records was in the form of a modest advance."
"My performing work is how I make my living. Even though I've recorded over twenty-five records, I cannot support my family on record royalties alone."
This is from someone who knows what he's talking about.
The RIAA has been ripping-off musicians for decades and decades.
"...everyone who can't seem to understand that you do NOT have a right to steal music and that there is a difference between something that is morally wrong and legal loop holes is this... Waaah Waaah Waaah I wanna download free..."
I've said this before, and really received no meaningful response:
Where the hell has the RIAA been all these years?
My kid has had a two-well tape deck since she was five years old.
What the hell do ya do with a two-well tape deck?
Make copies!
Period!
The RIAA has looked the other way for several decades regarding the issue of copying.
Now, suddenly, when it's possible to make lots of good copies, fast, they want to make a big deal out of it.
"...kuro5hin.org has been subject to a series of automated "spam" type attacks by persons currently unknown. The story queue has been filled with crap, the comments have been filled with crap..."
This sounds just like what's going on at/. except that at/. apparently the back end is tougher and the system itself just keeps on running.
At scoop: endless automated posts by, in this case, an "Anonymous Hero" -- coming in about every 1 or 2 seconds, with the title and the body of the post just blocks of randomly assembled phrases.
It's occured to me some time ago that all the AC bullshit that gets posted here is by a bot (or bots..) or a script (or scripts..)...
...but what I don't understand is why our/. crew isn't hard at work coding a defense?
Perhaps because they are afraid of even worse assaults if they don't let the scr1pt k1ddi3z have their way?
Has a tacit agreement been reached: "We'll let you post your AC crap as long as you don't shut us down completely."
Maybe the/. folks and the kuro5hin folks can get together and come up with a joint defense for this kind of nonsense...
Or maybe it's really way past time to get rid of anonymous posts altogether.
Of course, we could just run up the white flag and surrender to these punks completely, except that/.'s already acting like it's done just that.
It's been said before: a lot of people called this a scam/hoax right from the beginning.
Read the original topic and all the posts!
Or why should you bother?
You wouldn't want to suffer from any doubts when you run your own personal agenda...
"I get a kick out of stuff like this. Slashdot posts something, everybody beleives it must be true if Slashdot posts it, and then we find out that it's complete crap."
Nothing of the sort happened.
It was because of the criticism here at/. that their cover was blown...
Over at this post it really looks like, at some point in time before it really started to blow up on them, they continued to attempt to take in 'customer' information for some purpose:
Dear Customer, thank you for your order of SETI accelerator. Due to the overwhelming response, we regret we can not process your order at the moment. The placed orders exceed our stock by far and further production will take about 10 weeks. We are very sorry, but we had to cancel your order, as we can not be sure you would like to buy our product under these conditions. If you still would like to order SETI Accelerator please place your order again and we will be glad to deliver your order as soon as possible. We do apologize for any inconvenience. kind regards
Andrej Schachnazarow KrasnoConv Solutions
Note that this is a slight mis-spelling of the bogus name used for the domain registration, below...
When you poke around where some of the guys have come clean (aww... shucks! You guessed! Hey! We were just kiddin' around, guys!) you can find a faint trail:
Dirk S's email is to setigermany.de, where he's webmaster and domain registrant:
And, although the two other guys only point themselves to email at krasnoconv itself, in fact they are all involved in setigermany.de, perhaps along with the mystical (... and the two 'men in black') mentioned at the bottom of the page..
The krasnoconv.com domain itself was set up right from the get-go to be totally fake:
It's registered to somebody completely bogus:
registrant-title: Herr registrant-firstname: Andrej registrant-lastname: Schachnasarow registrant-organization: KrasnoConv registrant-street: Au 5 registrant-pcode: 94140 registrant-city: Ering
Which is a city in Germany that doen't exist^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^Hcan't be found in the 1996 National Geographic Atlas of the World's index..
registrant-ccode: DE registrant-phone: +49 8573 12345
And somebody used a fishy-looking phone number...
registrant-email: KrasnoConv@mail.ru
..and the registrant used a mail-drop in Russia (if it's real at all: I didn't bother to check..)
So somebody went to a fair amount of work to set up a bogus domain.
So I dunno.
Is this just what passes for good clean fun, in the eyes of today's German youth?
A quick search for your handle in the old article suggests that you didn't post to the first story, and probably didn't read it then, either.
So it's real easy to be a Monday morning quarterback (BZZT: 5 points off for an overly-American sports analogy!!)
But in fact a *lot* of people did sniff out a scam, and in fact I'd be willing to be that it was the thread here at/. that was a major force in blowing their cover!
"The board was such an obvious fake."
Well, the people who were sceptical went 'way beyond just looking at the picture:
we pointed out that the domain was only about 23 days old
that it was registered in Germany
that the phone number for the registrant looked bogus (and it still looks bogus: I still think this was a ripoff..)
that the city in the Ukraine where this was supposed to be based doesn't exist!
that there was no mention anywhere on the entire Web of this company name, anywhere at all, except on that home page, despite the fact that the company had been in business allegedly since 1995
So we really went over this with a microscope -- all of which was discussed in the first thread.
"I think the only people who should feel guilty are the self-described experts who were so quick to spout off about the "board" with no knowledge about the subject."
The people who thought it might be a cool idea didn't proclaim themselves to be experts, they just thought the board (and Seti@Home..) was a cool idea...
We can dream, can't we?
So thanks for coming into the discussion so late and setting us all straight, but I think a lot of people already came to your conclusion, some time ago!
"the posts that are represented here, with talk of "perfect babies" and "playing God" and such foolishness speak of a community that obviously is not armed for rational discussion of a serious issue."
"As a long-time Slashbot, you know perfectly well that AC posts start at 0, logged-in posts start at 1 and that the bitchslap causes you to post at a default of -1."
Quite right.
I stand corrected.
Although I more meant the interactive bitchslap, rather than the automagic...
I realized that when I re-read the guy below who seems to have home-brewed a similar setup..
</blush>
But doesn't the necessity of spoofing outgoing packets so that they're retured as thought they came from a different source kinda invalidate the topic of this er.. whole topic?
Either we accept spoofed packets, or we blow away any form of connectivity that's got one IP going out but wants stuff sent back to another IP.
I'm dialup (both in and out, not satellite or cable..) and for this current session I've got 12.73.99.xxx assigned to ppp0 (my outgoing interface) by my ISP, and 165.238.131.xx is where I'm going on to on the first hop back at my ISP.
How would this be different for the uplink in satellite? Or cable?
All my internal IP's are masq'ed; what needs spoofing going out?
No: actually they'll be happy to sell you one of these, shipped COD.
I doubt that the FedEx driver is gonna stand around and let you install the board to see if it actually *works* -- so you get a board, and pay for it, and the driver leaves, and...
Slashdot Mirror
There's little relationship between security notfications for IE at microsoft.com, and netscape.com
netscape.com is another goddam portal.
What are you doing even bothering with it?
Try finding a new home page. It's really quite simple. I would suggest /.
t_t_b
--
I think not; therefore I ain't®
Abusing Slashdot?
Au contraire..
Taco's comments are very relevant, and he should use the bully pulpit to state his position as he chooses..
Regarding Gore and Bush: there's some valid point to saying that they're each clones of the other, and that one is a Republicrat while the other is a Democran, but to someone who's been following American politics in depth since the early 50's, there's still a meaningful difference between the two parties.
Ol' GW is the most recent Republican puppet-candidate since Reagan: they both were/are idiots, and they both were/are puppet fronts for the men in the shadows who are really calling the shots.
Gore? Well, he's not GeeDub-ya, and he's not a Republican..
Finally: to piss-off anyone I haven't offended already:
Nader?
Sure. Throw your vote away on total symbolism.
The idea that one person's vote doesn't count is nonsense: one individual vote is all any of us have.
If this gets down to bein' really close in November, ask yourself if a vote for symbolism is not really a vote for Bush.
t_t_b
--
I think not; therefore I ain't®
"HotMail has commenced its much awaited migration to a Microsoft operating system. Some Windows 2000 machines have recently been moved into the load balancing pool, with currently between 90-95% of requests being served by the established FreeBSD/Apache platform, and 5-10% from Windows 2000. The Hotmail site infrastructure is enormous, and even if everything runs smoothly, a migration will likely take several weeks."
I'm not sure why several people have gone off on /. for attributing this story to an AC, saying that it's FUD, or that /. is about to collapse under bias..
C'mon folks, this is what Netcraft has said; /. is merely quoting them.
Click on the link and go read it, and deal with it..
It's about a third of the way down the page, under Around the Net
t_t_b
--
I think not; therefore I ain't®
t_t_b
--
I think not; therefore I ain't®
t_t_b
--
I think not; therefore I ain't®
It'll clear your head, and remind you what's at the core, here: music and musicians.
Executive Summary: It's absolutely fantastic; Highly Recommended!
I went with my kid and her boyfriend; it's not cheap: $20 for adults; $16 for high school kids; $15 (?) for younger kids.. Allow *lots* of time; we had about four hours and didn't even scratch the surface.
If you're not familiar with the story behind the EMP it will seem to be an odd collection: some groups were missing entirely from what little I saw: the "Milestones" exhibit had no reference to the Beattle or the Stones, but covered Britain through the Yardbirds, the Cream, Blind Faith, Derick and the Dominoes, Steve Winwood, and Eric Clapton.
Janis Joplin is very well covered; as is Bo Diddley, BB King, and the very early country/R&B/rock genesis.
There's the hint as to what's going on: this is an entirely personal collection on display here, from someone who loves music and musicians and bands and the guitar particularily.
But there's a lot of depth that you wouldn't expect and couldn't get from a publicly funded "museum" about rock: one fabulous display goes into tremendous depth about the New York grafitti scene of the late 70' and the '80, right down to having actual sketch books from some of the artists involved..
And this segues into hip-hop, and the DJ/mixing scene, and punk, and on and on..
It's fabulous!
I didn't get into the Jimi Hendrix Gallery; I did see "RIAA" once: on the actual gold album award Jimi received for "Axis Bold as Love".
Geek note: the MEG (Museum Exhibit Guide) is a device about the size of, and a little heavier than, an early cassette recorder. It sits down on your right hip and has a strap that goes over your head and onto your left sholder; battery powered; 3"x4" LCD display; headphones; touchscreen and cursor buttons and a numeric keypad; you point the keypad at (sometimes hard-to-see) infrared xmitters at each display and you press "Select" and the MEG reads where it is from the xmitter and "Loading" appears and A LONG TIME later the narration begins and a menu that accesses specific exhibit details comes up...
A LONG TIME is about 5-7 seconds: it's hard to picture *what* is taking so long, and that confuses guesses about *what* MEG is: I'd guess it's got an hdd in it, but what kind of OS takes so long to read in it's location and find and display the relevant naration had me puzzled.
It's not obtrusive at all, but it kept me mildly curious as to what was in it; there's absolutely *no* markings of any kind on the case to give you a clue: it looks as though EMP builds 'em themselves.
I suspect the weight and size of the thing are merely anti-theft: there's certainly no reason it couldn't be a lot smaller...
The MEG was pretty cool, too: when I went off to get in a line for the Hendrix Gallery, I was still able to bring up the narrations for all the specific objects on display at the last place I'd been: the LA punk scene, and listen to stuff as I was waiting.
Many adults seemed baffled by MEG; kids (of course..) took right to it..
Anyway, the EMP is pretty cool, if you *really* *like* *music* - if you live in Metro Puget Sound, Go!
If you're travelling into Metro Puget Sound on business or pleasure, Go!
If you can't think of any other excuse, fly in, see EMP, and then leave ;-) -- and be sure to tell everyone how much it rained.
t_t_b
(* Paul Allen)
--
Which is yet another example of the stranglehold the RIAA has on the music industry: the variety of artists you'll hear on any mainstream, popular station is very narrow, and you won't hear but one or two of that artists's work, anyway...
t_t_b
--
Ok: so we've beat to death whether the sharing of copies of tracks off CD via Napster is sharing or stealing; personally, I still come down on the sharing side of the issue: I own the CD, I make a copy of what I own, I can share it any way I want.
That's what I think; deal with it...
I've pointed out elsewhere that two-well cassette decks, and blank cassette tapes, and blank VHS tapes, and all the other paraphenalia of what is obviously a process of copying of either music or movies have been in existence for, well, decades.
The RIAA (and the MPAA) has made absolutely no issue whatsoever of the obvious existence of widespread copying by private purchasers for all this time.
Now, suddenly, when it's become possible to make good-quality copies, fast, and distribute the copies quickly, it's become a Big Deal®
Personally, I think the Big Deal® for the RIAA particularily is a loss of control over their lock on the chain of distribution.
Is there not some legal concept, applicable here, which states that failure to exercise one's legal rights against previous blatant copying, dilutes one's right to suddenly make copying such an issue?
Regarding land, I can lose some of my private property if I do not actively restrain your blatant encroachment and that encroachment persists for ten years.
Obviously, IAGIANAL, but I do wonder if it's possible to ask: "If this copying is such goddam big deal, where have you folks been all this time?"
t_t_b
--
t_t_b
--
That is utterly untrue.
The CD's that the MP3's were ripped from were lawfully purchased, they were neither shoplifted nor stolen off some loading dock.
"You mean set the tone that artists actually have some right not to have their work ripped off for free?"
You utterly ignore the issue that most music artists will strongly state that it is they who are being ripped-off by the RIAA.
Read Roger McGuinn's Senate Testimony
"In most cases a modest advance against royalties was all the money I received for my participation in these recording projects."
"The only money I've received for these albums was the modest advance paid prior to each recording."
"Even though the song "Don't You Write Her Off" was a top 40 hit, the only money I received from Capitol Records was in the form of a modest advance."
"My performing work is how I make my living. Even though I've recorded over twenty-five records, I cannot support my family on record royalties alone."
This is from someone who knows what he's talking about.
The RIAA has been ripping-off musicians for decades and decades.
Napster users are not!
t_t_b
--
I've said this before, and really received no meaningful response:
Where the hell has the RIAA been all these years?
My kid has had a two-well tape deck since she was five years old.
What the hell do ya do with a two-well tape deck?
Make copies!
Period!
The RIAA has looked the other way for several decades regarding the issue of copying.
Now, suddenly, when it's possible to make lots of good copies, fast, they want to make a big deal out of it.
They're a bunch of rich hypocrites!
t_t_b
--
People have rights.
Not the government, not corporations.
Ha!
Dreamer!
Where have you been for the last 30 years?
If you're living in the United States of America, or in the developed world as US corporate culture expands, you have no rights!
Your sole purpose and reason-for-existence is to consume.
Now, get out there and go shopping!
t_t_b
--
God.. I guess.
Check out scoop.kuro5hin. org, too...
This sounds just like what's going on at /. except that at /. apparently the back end is tougher and the system itself just keeps on running.
At scoop: endless automated posts by, in this case, an "Anonymous Hero" -- coming in about every 1 or 2 seconds, with the title and the body of the post just blocks of randomly assembled phrases.
It's occured to me some time ago that all the AC bullshit that gets posted here is by a bot (or bots..) or a script (or scripts..)...
Perhaps because they are afraid of even worse assaults if they don't let the scr1pt k1ddi3z have their way?
Has a tacit agreement been reached: "We'll let you post your AC crap as long as you don't shut us down completely."
Maybe the /. folks and the kuro5hin folks can get together and come up with a joint defense for this kind of nonsense...
Or maybe it's really way past time to get rid of anonymous posts altogether.
Of course, we could just run up the white flag and surrender to these punks completely, except that /.'s already acting like it's done just that.
t_t_b
--
I think not; therefore I ain't®
It's been said before: a lot of people called this a scam/hoax right from the beginning.
Read the original topic and all the posts!
Or why should you bother?
You wouldn't want to suffer from any doubts when you run your own personal agenda...
"I get a kick out of stuff like this. Slashdot posts something, everybody beleives it must be true if Slashdot posts it, and then we find out that it's complete crap."
Nothing of the sort happened.
It was because of the criticism here at /. that their cover was blown...
t_t_b
--
I think not; therefore I ain't®
Here's why:
Over at this post it really looks like, at some point in time before it really started to blow up on them, they continued to attempt to take in 'customer' information for some purpose:
Dear Customer,
thank you for your order of SETI accelerator.
Due to the overwhelming response, we regret we can not process your order at the moment. The placed orders exceed our stock by far and further production will take about 10 weeks.
We are very sorry, but we had to cancel your order, as we can not be sure you would like to buy our product under these conditions.
If you still would like to order SETI Accelerator please place your order again and we will be glad to deliver your order as soon as possible.
We do apologize for any inconvenience.
kind regards
Andrej Schachnazarow
KrasnoConv Solutions
Note that this is a slight mis-spelling of the bogus name used for the domain registration, below...
When you poke around where some of the guys have come clean (aww... shucks! You guessed! Hey! We were just kiddin' around, guys!) you can find a faint trail:
Dirk S's email is to setigermany.de, where he's webmaster and domain registrant:
Domainname: setigermany.de
Domaininhaber: Dirk Schimansky
Frankenweg 15
D-53225
Bonn
Germany
And, although the two other guys only point themselves to email at krasnoconv itself, in fact they are all involved in setigermany.de, perhaps along with the mystical (... and the two 'men in black') mentioned at the bottom of the page..
The krasnoconv.com domain itself was set up right from the get-go to be totally fake:
It's registered to somebody completely bogus:
registrant-title: Herr
registrant-firstname: Andrej
registrant-lastname: Schachnasarow
registrant-organization: KrasnoConv
registrant-street: Au 5
registrant-pcode: 94140
registrant-city: Ering
Which is a city in Germany that doen't exist^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^Hcan't be found in the 1996 National Geographic Atlas of the World's index..
registrant-ccode: DE
registrant-phone: +49 8573 12345
And somebody used a fishy-looking phone number...
registrant-email: KrasnoConv@mail.ru
So somebody went to a fair amount of work to set up a bogus domain.
So I dunno.
Is this just what passes for good clean fun, in the eyes of today's German youth?
t_t_b
--
I think not; therefore I ain't®
All you geniuses who are showing up late to the discussion and slamming /. are idiots just running your own personal agenda!
Go and read the first article!
(And I won't put in the URL: let's see if you're smart enough to find it..)
A whole lot of peole saw through this as a scam!
Check out the posts!
It was probably the discussion around this being a scam, here on /. that blew their cover!
Get off /.'s back!
t_t_b
--
I think not; therefore I ain't®
So it's real easy to be a Monday morning quarterback (BZZT: 5 points off for an overly-American sports analogy!!)
But in fact a *lot* of people did sniff out a scam, and in fact I'd be willing to be that it was the thread here at /. that was a major force in blowing their cover!
"The board was such an obvious fake."
Well, the people who were sceptical went 'way beyond just looking at the picture:
So we really went over this with a microscope -- all of which was discussed in the first thread.
"I think the only people who should feel guilty are the self-described experts who were so quick to spout off about the "board" with no knowledge about the subject."
The people who thought it might be a cool idea didn't proclaim themselves to be experts, they just thought the board (and Seti@Home..) was a cool idea...
We can dream, can't we?
So thanks for coming into the discussion so late and setting us all straight, but I think a lot of people already came to your conclusion, some time ago!
t_t_b
--
I think not; therefore I ain't®
Hoo boy!
You think most of these posts are bad!
Just wait'll you meet the adventures of OOG..
And thanks for sharing your brilliance with us.
I, for one, am deeply ashamed of myself.
t_t_b
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Well, I have little doubt that you'd be happy to!
"One of the key problems with our culture's attachment to postmodenism is that there is an acceptance of moral relativism."
"The outcome of our rejection of moral absolutes provides us with no compass..."
"Moral relativism provides no basis for knowing right and wrong."
"Cling to morality with a solid foundation and you will have a basis for hope!"
Oh, come on!
Just reach way down inside and summon up all your courage and tell us all to become Christians!
Then everything will be perfect!
t_t_b
(ps: I've been hearing those same buzz-phrases for forty-five years...)
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"As a long-time Slashbot, you know perfectly well that AC posts start at 0, logged-in posts start at 1 and that the bitchslap causes you to post at a default of -1."
Quite right.
I stand corrected.
Although I more meant the interactive bitchslap, rather than the automagic...
page now in rev. 2.0
t_t_b
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For your right!
To make /. AC spam-free
The Windows cut-n-paste K1dd13s strike again!
t_t_b
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For your right!
To make /. AC spam-free
Remember the good old days, when the biggest problem with AC posts was the First Post! post?
Kinda makes ya nostalgic, don't it?
t_t_b
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I realized that when I re-read the guy below who seems to have home-brewed a similar setup..
</blush>
But doesn't the necessity of spoofing outgoing packets so that they're retured as thought they came from a different source kinda invalidate the topic of this er.. whole topic?
Either we accept spoofed packets, or we blow away any form of connectivity that's got one IP going out but wants stuff sent back to another IP.
t_t_b
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I'm dialup (both in and out, not satellite or cable..) and for this current session I've got 12.73.99.xxx assigned to ppp0 (my outgoing interface) by my ISP, and 165.238.131.xx is where I'm going on to on the first hop back at my ISP.
How would this be different for the uplink in satellite? Or cable?
All my internal IP's are masq'ed; what needs spoofing going out?
t_t_b
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I doubt that the FedEx driver is gonna stand around and let you install the board to see if it actually *works* -- so you get a board, and pay for it, and the driver leaves, and...
t_t_b
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I think not; therefore I ain't®