Oracle is simply offering a newer kernel than Red Hat and fine-tuning it for Oracle's own software.
This could be glossing over quite a bit of useful work for Oracles customers. "Fine tuning" could be anything from tweaking some compiler settings to actually patching things in the kernel. Its hardly a trivial task given the size and complexity that most Oracle customers bring.
They can claim whatever they want. No matter what it is, reasonable and justified or totally insane and overboard the defense lawyers will work it down. You're better off having some claims on the table to sacrifice in order to get what you actually should get to be made whole again.
I'm not saying that the specifics of this case are right, but thats what you have to do if you sue for damages with long term repercussions.
Lets say I run into you with my car and break your hand. You would need to sue me to recover the following costs:
- Immediate medical care (ER, ambulance)
- Surgery to correct your hand
- Lost wages from the immediate time away from work
- Cost of physical therapy (heres the important part)
- Cost of long term followup visits
- Cost of pain meds (even say, Advil) because of long term discomfornt
- Lost wages from not being able to use your hand 100% ever again
- Cost of followup visits if your hand flares up again
- Cost of treating the arthritis that is now likely to develop
You can only sue me once. You may not come back and sue me again in 15 years when it acts up after feeling fine for a decade.
Similar thing is going on here. The fishermen just plain don't know whats going to happen in the long term. The legal term is "make me whole". BP did something to harm them and the fisherman isn't made whole again unless all of his costs , short and long term, are recovered. The fisherman doesn't get to go back in 5 years and sue BP again after he finds out his fishing area is a wasteland because the fish are gone.
I just worry when the government gets involved because they only tool they have to solve problems is to legislate and regulate. Even passive "government shall not" regs lead to challenges which inevitably lead to more regulation.
Using your free speech example, in many jurisdictions hate speech is regulated as is "shouting 'Fire!' in a theatre". The point is not to get into a debate as to whether or not those are constitutional, its to show that "shall not" laws are still laws and sooner or later it'll get in the way.
IF this is widely adopted, place your bets on how long it takes for snoopers and sniffer to start stealing your sensitive data. I'm guessing a scant week after a city touts a complete success at a city-wide installation a report will come out on how the government contractor who sold the system scammed that town out of kajillions.
How does any government ever "secure" something? By adding multiple layers of bureaucracy and requiring multiple forms of identification to use the service.
That only slows down and annoys law abiding citizens while criminals continue to get through and around such regulations. Sources -
- prohibition
- gun control
- war on drugs
- TSA
- border fence
I actually used to work for a GE Medical reseller, I also know people who work for GE Aircraft Engines and for GE Appliances.
I agree with your assesment, but is it correct to compare GE to Dell?
GE is a conglomerate. They are a business of many businesses. Their corporate policy is to cut the bottom 10% every year and reinvest in something else. They are spread across many diverse markets and industries and service sectors.
Dell is an IT company. While IT is vast, it comes down to selling computer hardware, network hardware, and the services to support it. Hardly as diverse and vast as GE who can scan your body, microwave it, fly it across the world, and tie it to a wind turbine.
Not only that, but the video billboards in Times Square are the pinnacle of consumerism. Its not exactly incompatible with a Consumer Watchdog, but I can't imagine they're on the same team either.
Thats *why* you have a jury of your peers. They can apply community standards and even if you did break the law, if that law is wrong or they don't think you deserve to be punished, they can say you're not guilty.
Slashdot Mirror
http://breakingcode.wordpress.com/2010/01/11/having-fun-with-url-shorteners/
They have been systematically stripping individuals of rights while handing more power to the government
Except for those pro-gun 2nd Amendment rulings in Heller and McDonald.
The "conservative" SCOTUS
Pssst, your editorial bias is showing!
No. You could also stop using the Internet.
that's not exactly a rockin' web experience
I use w3m you insensitive clod!
This could be glossing over quite a bit of useful work for Oracles customers. "Fine tuning" could be anything from tweaking some compiler settings to actually patching things in the kernel. Its hardly a trivial task given the size and complexity that most Oracle customers bring.
What if its a tweet about programming in JavaScript?
Is it like a frontend for iptables?
They can claim whatever they want. No matter what it is, reasonable and justified or totally insane and overboard the defense lawyers will work it down. You're better off having some claims on the table to sacrifice in order to get what you actually should get to be made whole again.
I'm not saying that the specifics of this case are right, but thats what you have to do if you sue for damages with long term repercussions.
Lets say I run into you with my car and break your hand. You would need to sue me to recover the following costs:
- Immediate medical care (ER, ambulance)
- Surgery to correct your hand
- Lost wages from the immediate time away from work
- Cost of physical therapy
(heres the important part)
- Cost of long term followup visits
- Cost of pain meds (even say, Advil) because of long term discomfornt
- Lost wages from not being able to use your hand 100% ever again
- Cost of followup visits if your hand flares up again
- Cost of treating the arthritis that is now likely to develop
You can only sue me once. You may not come back and sue me again in 15 years when it acts up after feeling fine for a decade.
Similar thing is going on here. The fishermen just plain don't know whats going to happen in the long term. The legal term is "make me whole". BP did something to harm them and the fisherman isn't made whole again unless all of his costs , short and long term, are recovered. The fisherman doesn't get to go back in 5 years and sue BP again after he finds out his fishing area is a wasteland because the fish are gone.
Agreed.
I just worry when the government gets involved because they only tool they have to solve problems is to legislate and regulate. Even passive "government shall not" regs lead to challenges which inevitably lead to more regulation.
Using your free speech example, in many jurisdictions hate speech is regulated as is "shouting 'Fire!' in a theatre". The point is not to get into a debate as to whether or not those are constitutional, its to show that "shall not" laws are still laws and sooner or later it'll get in the way.
...of the Internet by having the politicians and governments agree to a treaty.
Lets think this through for a minute.
"Mort au Shah, et vive les souris"
Death to Shah, and long live the mice
Shah sounds a lot like "chats" which means cats. So theres the joke for non-French speakers.
IF this is widely adopted, place your bets on how long it takes for snoopers and sniffer to start stealing your sensitive data. I'm guessing a scant week after a city touts a complete success at a city-wide installation a report will come out on how the government contractor who sold the system scammed that town out of kajillions.
Monorail!
Hmmm escape the scrutiny of an oppressive regime by embedding information in advertisements or have a good experience on the web with AdBlock.
It seems that the only way to win your game is not to play.
...read this on Ars and saw it on Engadget days before it made /.
GPal has had some trouble too. Have they resolved the issue from two months ago when they weren't issuing payments to sellers?
They aren't "causing" wrecks. If you cannot avoid an obstacle and react to it without swerving off the road you need more training.
I do agree with your remark on "getting used to it".
KHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN!!!
"Hasbro toy robot called Butterscotch that sells for about $350."
If my kid was given a $350 toy AND LEFT IT IN THE STREET they'd wish it was a bomb when they were done getting spanked.
How does any government ever "secure" something? By adding multiple layers of bureaucracy and requiring multiple forms of identification to use the service.
That only slows down and annoys law abiding citizens while criminals continue to get through and around such regulations.
Sources -
- prohibition
- gun control
- war on drugs
- TSA
- border fence
I actually used to work for a GE Medical reseller, I also know people who work for GE Aircraft Engines and for GE Appliances.
I agree with your assesment, but is it correct to compare GE to Dell?
GE is a conglomerate. They are a business of many businesses. Their corporate policy is to cut the bottom 10% every year and reinvest in something else. They are spread across many diverse markets and industries and service sectors.
Dell is an IT company. While IT is vast, it comes down to selling computer hardware, network hardware, and the services to support it. Hardly as diverse and vast as GE who can scan your body, microwave it, fly it across the world, and tie it to a wind turbine.
They're making billions as box pushers, isn't that good enough?
Not only that, but the video billboards in Times Square are the pinnacle of consumerism. Its not exactly incompatible with a Consumer Watchdog, but I can't imagine they're on the same team either.
(because those of us who do read /. daily are too smart to be conned by these losers). Right?
I see that you are new here.
You're referring to jury nullification.
Quick reading - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jury_nullification
Thats *why* you have a jury of your peers. They can apply community standards and even if you did break the law, if that law is wrong or they don't think you deserve to be punished, they can say you're not guilty.