Not for storage. I currently have 4 3.5" HDDs (plus one SSD and one DVD) in my PC. I couldn't have done this with an iMac. Or I would have to buy expensive, ugly, external hard drives which would completely defeat the purpose of having an all-in-one.
And why did you need all-in-one exactly? Did you factor the cost of replacing the whole computer when the monitor breaks? Or having to replace the monitor when you want to upgrade to a new PC?
On linux I can do sudo ls -- and then it will lists available arguments for the ls program. Doesn't work on OS X. There is probably some way to have it, by replacing the default bash. But it's so easier on linux.
Bash-completion is much more than competing the first word of a command.
What I meant is that you need a Mac Pro to get specs similar to a $800 PC. Just put two hard drives in RAID1 or a good video card and the iMac doesn't make it anymore. Since you have no other option, you have to go to the Mac Pro.
Also I am not saying that a $800 PC is equivalent to a Mac Pro. Only that to get similar or better specs to a $800 PC, you have no other option than the Mac Pro, since the iMac will have some inferior specs.
There are a lot of things Mac hardware can't do, but that is irrelevant if what it does does a good job of what it does do, and there is demand for those things.
That was exactly my point. There is very little demand for what Apple provide in terms of hardware. Much less than their current market share. People buy Apple hardware *despite* not being exactly what they want/need, either because they like the Apple brand or like the operating system. I think the iMac is the best example of this. Nobody is buying an all-in-one non-Apple PC. The market for all-in-one is close to 0. I'm not saying it's not legitimate, but it's a small niche. And yet, many people are buying iMacs. It makes me beleive that it's the lack of alternative in the Apple desktop PC which makes people buy iMacs and not the need for an all-in-one.
If you need a fruit logo on it, then I agree that Apple hardware is not overpriced.
The real question is if you really need that logo. Most people buying iMacs don't get the 5k display version. Most of them don't need an All in One either. They just wanted a desktop Mac more powerful than the mini. They end up with the iMac by lack of alternative, not because they need an iMac.
Agreed. Also their goal is to include all (open source) packages, so most of the time when you need a package, it's already in there. Unlike Windows and Apple store, which contains mostly crapware.
Try to do the opposite now.
Build a $800 desktop PC and try to build a Mac with similar specs and look at the price. You will end-up with that expensive Mac Pro.
And yet Mac fans will use that argument to buy a Mac mini or a Macbook Air beacause they can't afford that iMac.
Even most of those getting an iMac really want a real tower (such as a Mac Pro) but are stuck with the iMac because they can't afford it.
With Mac hardware, you are out of luck if you want:
-A laptop with a display larger than 13" which doesn't cost an arm and a leg
-A real tower (not all-in-one) with space for video cards, hard drives, and expansion
-A gaming PC
-A tablet/PC convertible, or even a touch screen in general
I know OS X is UNIX and has bash, c compiler and all that stuff.
But every time I use command line on OS X I feel like I am stuck in the 80s. No bash-completion, no apt-get, missing critical components that you have to install manually. At least with linux I get a working, out of the box, command line that "just work", ironically. I couldn't care less about the graphical effects when I switch from the web browser to the email client.
Also finder and safari both suck in terms of usability. And I absolutely hate the dock. Who had the stupid idea to put open and closed programs at the same place? I also hate unity, for the same reason, but at least on linux you don't have to use it. Window management on OS X is very poor. Having to use exposé to find an open window is a waste of time.
You mean for all those 3 people on the planet with such a requirement?
The iMac is NOT a video editing machine. Video editing requires a real tower with enough room for a couple 3.5" hard drives, blu-ray, etc. Also a real desktop can get much faster CPUs than an iMac.
Or just take your news from outside the US.
The rest of the developed world mainstream medias all have no shame to admit that anthropogenic global warming is happening.
Only in the US there is fox-news style media still denying science *and* with such a large audience.
Maybe but is Google to blame for this? The source code is there, it's up to the manufacturers to update their devices. Except of course for the Nexus line. It's a shame Google stopped updating the Galaxy Nexus.
Still, the patch is there.
What surprises me is that some people think that their phone doesn't have any unpatched security hole when the latest update was over a year ago.
I'd say that reliability and stability in car navigation and audio system is just as important as smartphones reliability and stability. We are not talking about ABS, airbags, or other safety-critical car subsystems here.
It remains to be seen if they will eventually "win" the car computers system market or if they will do just like they did in the smartphone market, be an early player unable to innovate and becoming irrelevant in less than 10 years.
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2.5 inch SSDs are plentiful.
Not for storage. I currently have 4 3.5" HDDs (plus one SSD and one DVD) in my PC. I couldn't have done this with an iMac. Or I would have to buy expensive, ugly, external hard drives which would completely defeat the purpose of having an all-in-one.
It has basic tab completion by default. It doesn't have bash-completion. http://bash-completion.alioth....
And why did you need all-in-one exactly? Did you factor the cost of replacing the whole computer when the monitor breaks? Or having to replace the monitor when you want to upgrade to a new PC?
On linux I can do sudo ls -- and then it will lists available arguments for the ls program. Doesn't work on OS X. There is probably some way to have it, by replacing the default bash. But it's so easier on linux. Bash-completion is much more than competing the first word of a command.
bash-completion is much more than the default tab-completion available in mac OS X.
What I meant is that you need a Mac Pro to get specs similar to a $800 PC. Just put two hard drives in RAID1 or a good video card and the iMac doesn't make it anymore. Since you have no other option, you have to go to the Mac Pro. Also I am not saying that a $800 PC is equivalent to a Mac Pro. Only that to get similar or better specs to a $800 PC, you have no other option than the Mac Pro, since the iMac will have some inferior specs.
Most online PC stores will assemble your PC for as little as $25. You can also order a pre-configured system.
There are a lot of things Mac hardware can't do, but that is irrelevant if what it does does a good job of what it does do, and there is demand for those things.
That was exactly my point. There is very little demand for what Apple provide in terms of hardware. Much less than their current market share. People buy Apple hardware *despite* not being exactly what they want/need, either because they like the Apple brand or like the operating system. I think the iMac is the best example of this. Nobody is buying an all-in-one non-Apple PC. The market for all-in-one is close to 0. I'm not saying it's not legitimate, but it's a small niche. And yet, many people are buying iMacs. It makes me beleive that it's the lack of alternative in the Apple desktop PC which makes people buy iMacs and not the need for an all-in-one.
You really beleive more people buy the retina iMac than the 5 cheaper models combined?
If you need a fruit logo on it, then I agree that Apple hardware is not overpriced. The real question is if you really need that logo. Most people buying iMacs don't get the 5k display version. Most of them don't need an All in One either. They just wanted a desktop Mac more powerful than the mini. They end up with the iMac by lack of alternative, not because they need an iMac.
Actually a PC laptop with a retina class display cost more than a MacBook Pro...
Completely false. There are many PCs, such as the Surface Pro 3, with "retina-class" displays which cost less than a retina MacBook Pro...
and buying the MacBook Pro does not send money to Microsoft.
Which these days is better than sending money to Apple. More money to Apple == more vendor lock-in.
Your example is annecdotical. Most people buying an iMac get the base version, not the 5k display one.
Agreed. Also their goal is to include all (open source) packages, so most of the time when you need a package, it's already in there. Unlike Windows and Apple store, which contains mostly crapware.
Try to do the opposite now. Build a $800 desktop PC and try to build a Mac with similar specs and look at the price. You will end-up with that expensive Mac Pro.
Nothing compare to the Air or the 5k iMac.
And yet Mac fans will use that argument to buy a Mac mini or a Macbook Air beacause they can't afford that iMac. Even most of those getting an iMac really want a real tower (such as a Mac Pro) but are stuck with the iMac because they can't afford it.
With Mac hardware, you are out of luck if you want:
-A laptop with a display larger than 13" which doesn't cost an arm and a leg
-A real tower (not all-in-one) with space for video cards, hard drives, and expansion
-A gaming PC
-A tablet/PC convertible, or even a touch screen in general
I know OS X is UNIX and has bash, c compiler and all that stuff. But every time I use command line on OS X I feel like I am stuck in the 80s. No bash-completion, no apt-get, missing critical components that you have to install manually. At least with linux I get a working, out of the box, command line that "just work", ironically. I couldn't care less about the graphical effects when I switch from the web browser to the email client. Also finder and safari both suck in terms of usability. And I absolutely hate the dock. Who had the stupid idea to put open and closed programs at the same place? I also hate unity, for the same reason, but at least on linux you don't have to use it. Window management on OS X is very poor. Having to use exposé to find an open window is a waste of time.
You mean for all those 3 people on the planet with such a requirement? The iMac is NOT a video editing machine. Video editing requires a real tower with enough room for a couple 3.5" hard drives, blu-ray, etc. Also a real desktop can get much faster CPUs than an iMac.
Or just take your news from outside the US. The rest of the developed world mainstream medias all have no shame to admit that anthropogenic global warming is happening. Only in the US there is fox-news style media still denying science *and* with such a large audience.
I live about 100 km from the US and 3 months would be considered the absolute bare minimum here. 1 year is common.
She can take 3 months off when we have a child and organize her work to be compatible with having a young child.
You know you live in the states when you think 3 months is a lot.
Maybe but is Google to blame for this? The source code is there, it's up to the manufacturers to update their devices. Except of course for the Nexus line. It's a shame Google stopped updating the Galaxy Nexus.
Still, the patch is there. What surprises me is that some people think that their phone doesn't have any unpatched security hole when the latest update was over a year ago.
The patch exists. It's called Android 4.4.
I'd say that reliability and stability in car navigation and audio system is just as important as smartphones reliability and stability. We are not talking about ABS, airbags, or other safety-critical car subsystems here.
It remains to be seen if they will eventually "win" the car computers system market or if they will do just like they did in the smartphone market, be an early player unable to innovate and becoming irrelevant in less than 10 years.