Because a lot of people own a lot of shares of MSFT. I'm willing to wager this guy lost a bunch value in his stock and now he wants to vent. OSS is just an easy target. I wouldn't feel very good right now if I owned Microsoft Stock that I bought at $110. Well:lemme replace MSFT with RHAT: I would feel very bad if I bought RHAT for $150...
Fridges are way more important for life-expectancy than all medicine combined. It should be rated before airplane's and automobiles because everyone in the western world uses it and they live longer because of it..
The main difference between Mozilla and Sendmail, MySQL, Apache is that Mozilla IS high profile and is a testcase for the non-geeks (a.k.a stockbuyers) if the Open Source idea works...
That column is a reflection of the outer world (and especially stock buyers) that open source for them doesn't work!
More aptly, what if 95% of all popular music was controlled by only four or five record companies and those companies formed a trade association whose main purpose was to keep its members' products selling for high prices instead of allowing "the market" to determine what a given song was worth?
In many countries this is a common practice. Thanks to the net and MP3 this is going to change:)
With a Server set up as the PDC of a domain, it's understandable, but if I get a "Can't access \\MyMachine\IPC$" error when trying to connect to an NT workstation that's on the WORKGROUP, I figure SMB is broken somehow.
That problem is an authentication problem. Not SMB itself. (like saying problems with X has nothing to do with Linux itself..)
But then, the same installation (a Ghosted installation, no less), on the same hardware, purchased the same day at the same vendor has been blue screening about every 15mn. The only thing different between the two installations is... the user.
Hardware may be broken..(or the machine might be incorrectly ghosted) This is a VERY good reason why w2k would bsod..
So check that hardware first before whining at w2k!
The other thing I noted in the story was that it's patchable if you go to the microsoft site. This places the onus on users to make sure they're not infected; Microsoft can say 'look, it's available; it's not our fault if you don't download it.' I don't want to start another anti-MS diatribe (I hate windows, not MS), but unless I'm over-inferring, this is another example of passing the buck; MS bring out the OS, it's up to the users to use it responsibly.
Compare it to a root-exploit for a Linux-box. The patch/fix is out in no time but it's up to the user to install those patches... Whose responsibility is it now when that box is cracked using that exploit?
As you state it, it would be Redhat's or suse's...
Reading is difficult: Note, however, that the tested kernel (2.2.6) is one prior to the single-threaded-TCP fix. I would like to see these tests done with a more recent kernel.
Again, we must concede that on unrealistically high loads, in an unrealistic test scenario, a professionally tuned very-high-end PC with 4 CPU will outperform an older Linux kernel.
(taken from the mindcraft report:) Phase 3 Phase 3 used both a one- and four-processor configuration of the same Dell server. Mindcraft used the same version of Windows NT Server 4.0 as in Phases 1 and 2. Red Hat chose to use Red Hat Linux 6.0 upgraded to the 2.2.10 kernel ("Linux" in Phase 3). See Phase 3 of this white paper for the other software and hardware changes that Red Hat made.
File-Server Tests Figure 3 shows the file-server performance we measured and the scaling between one- and four-processor configurations. Linux file-server performance on a four-processor system increases by 43% over a one-processor system. Windows NT Server, on the other hand, improves performance on a four-processor system by 105% over a one-processor system.
. Also, if I wanted a very high-end SMP box for web serving, I'd probably choose Solaris anyway. Microsoft, you're barking up the wrong tree. Let's see this test repeated, but compare NT with a Sun UE450 next time. When in danger, a cat makes strange moves.. The test was about Linux and NT, NOT Sun (a total different kind of cup of tea) and NT. Microsoft isn't aiming at that market (yet) thus testing Sun (solaris) vs. NT is way out of touch.
In addition, critics have complained about NTFS's slow performance relative to FAT. You don't have to be a rocket scientist to predict that Win2K's file system will be even slower than NTFS. Thus, the never-ending upgrade spiral continues--you'll need new hardware to properly implement Win2K.
NTFS comparing to Fat is like comparing apples to pears. Fat is fast, but FS security, better file-storage (who has ever seen "lost clusters" on a NTFS box?) takes quite a performance hit.. One of the things done right in NT is NTFS: mirroring, raid-5 volume extending, it's already there, not announced.
That is, the Chinese know that they can't trust Windows. But the Chinese can't sneak hacks into Linux either, since they have to provide source code and it has to pass review by Linus and the other kernel hackers.
The chinese will create the Chinnux distribution: free, but no sourcecodes included. The open-source community may cry foul but does China care?
And then the chinese install their own backdoors..
One could easily have the login authenticated accross an artifically slow link creating very long login times. I think they should take this out of the contest.
Other suggestion is to put 1.2 gb of data on your desktop, then logout/login on a remote server. (via a network link)
(when i turn off my Linux-box the hard way or it's fsck time it takes forever (about 20-30 minutes) to boot up. (1 2 gb partition, 2 8 gb partitions) Autochecking NT for this ammount of diskspace only takes about 1-5 minutes..
You feel angry, you want to fight Gartner about this report.. Don't even think about doing this! It's inmature, it's plain stupid and not a good thing to do. This report is already bad enough, but they also can throw out another (bad) report in days. Don't let that happen.
For those who aren't aware of the power of Gartner:
Garner is one of the 5 largest consultancy organisations around and alot of PHB's are in fact using their advise. Organisations rely on these reports for their IT planning. If Gartner says: "Novell Netware 5 is good" then Microsoft has really something to worry about.
IBM (big blue) felt the power of Gartner. IBM reorganised and drasticly changed their business plans because of a single Gartner report (IBM Mainframes will die was the outcome of that report). IBM was doing well but many jobs were lost.
The only right thing to do is to do nothing about this paper. Don't fight it, don't counter it. Just keep on using Linux and all will be well. Someday Gartner will see it's mistake.
Probably, nothing will happen. Perhaps a exchange of trade secrets (a common practice in the closed software world). Remember, stockholders love patents.
More likely, the smaller shops could be killed off using this patent. Sued to death.. (This also could hurt Linux, but that's a different discussion..)
IBM controlled the majority of the hardware market, not the software that made the hardware work. Microsoft, even at the time IBM was "The Bad Guys" did a lot of the software. The reason IBM succumbed to market forces is because other people came along and made hardware that did the same thing, better, faster and cheaper and IBM lost their fight to control the hardware platform
Yeah, On the PC platform you're right. However, IBM is a much larger shop then most people realise. The IBM-trial was about bundling mainframe (os/390) hardware and software. A large part of the IT-world where MS doesn't even exist. Critical software doesn't run on PC's, it runs on sparcs, mainframes, tandem boxes, and as/400 boxes. IMHO, IBM is absolutly more dangerous then Microsoft. Remember, it's not MS anywhere, its IBM who rules the computing world (Mainframes, AS/400's, AIX..) Wake up!
IBM controlled the majority of the hardware market, not the software that made the hardware work. Microsoft, even at the time IBM was "The Bad Guys" did a lot of the software. The reason IBM succumbed to market forces is because other people came along and made hardware that did the same thing, better, faster and cheaper and IBM lost their fight to control the hardware platform
Yeah, On the PC platform you're right. However, IBM is a much larger shop then most people realise. The IBM-trial was about bundling mainframe hardware and software. A part of the IT-world where MS doesn't even exist.
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Sun Microsystems vs Microsoft...
Go install Linux and help to get GNOME/KDE up to snuff.
PS: I've never seen real innovation on any platform in the past 5/7 years.
Because a lot of people own a lot of shares of MSFT. I'm willing to wager this guy lost a bunch value in his stock and now he wants to vent. OSS is just an easy target. I wouldn't feel very good right now if I owned Microsoft Stock that I bought at $110. Well:lemme replace MSFT with RHAT: I would feel very bad if I bought RHAT for $150...
Fridges are way more important for life-expectancy than all medicine combined. It should be rated before airplane's and automobiles because everyone in the western world uses it and they live longer because of it..
That column is a reflection of the outer world (and especially stock buyers) that open source for them doesn't work!
Geeks and stockbuyers have different priorities..
In many countries this is a common practice. Thanks to the net and MP3 this is going to change :)
That problem is an authentication problem. Not SMB itself. (like saying problems with X has nothing to do with Linux itself..)
Hardware may be broken..(or the machine might be incorrectly ghosted) This is a VERY good reason why w2k would bsod..
So check that hardware first before whining at w2k!
Compare it to a root-exploit for a Linux-box. The patch/fix is out in no time but it's up to the user to install those patches... Whose responsibility is it now when that box is cracked using that exploit?
As you state it, it would be Redhat's or suse's...
Reading is difficult:
Note, however, that the tested kernel (2.2.6) is one prior to the single-threaded-TCP fix. I would like to see these tests done with a more recent kernel.
Again, we must concede that on unrealistically high loads, in an unrealistic test scenario, a professionally tuned very-high-end PC with 4 CPU will outperform an older Linux kernel.
(taken from the mindcraft report:)
Phase 3
Phase 3 used both a one- and four-processor configuration of the same Dell server. Mindcraft used the same version of Windows NT Server 4.0 as in Phases 1 and 2. Red Hat chose to use Red Hat Linux 6.0 upgraded to the 2.2.10 kernel ("Linux" in Phase 3). See Phase 3 of this white paper for the other software and hardware changes that Red Hat made.
File-Server Tests
Figure 3 shows the file-server performance we measured and the scaling between one- and four-processor configurations. Linux file-server performance on a four-processor system increases by 43% over a one-processor system. Windows NT Server, on the other hand, improves performance on a four-processor system by 105% over a one-processor system.
. Also, if I wanted a very high-end SMP box for web serving, I'd probably choose Solaris anyway. Microsoft, you're barking up the wrong tree. Let's see this test repeated, but compare NT with a Sun UE450 next time.
When in danger, a cat makes strange moves..
The test was about Linux and NT, NOT Sun (a total different kind of cup of tea) and NT. Microsoft isn't aiming at that market (yet) thus testing Sun (solaris) vs. NT is way out of touch.
NTFS comparing to Fat is like comparing apples to pears. Fat is fast, but FS security, better file-storage (who has ever seen "lost clusters" on a NTFS box?) takes quite a performance hit.. One of the things done right in NT is NTFS: mirroring, raid-5 volume extending, it's already there, not announced.
The chinese will create the Chinnux distribution: free, but no sourcecodes included. The open-source community may cry foul but does China care?
And then the chinese install their own backdoors..
>Scary thought: Inbox 10,000 emails with the subject, "Can't access your page."
>Scarier: 10,000 emails a month until you fix it.
Scariest: 10,000 users per month branded as zealots. Bad publicity, then NOBODY wants to be associated with Netscape (like in AOL). Game lost.
(Think before acting)
Other suggestion is to put 1.2 gb of data on your desktop, then logout/login on a remote server. (via a network link)
(when i turn off my Linux-box the hard way or it's fsck time it takes forever (about 20-30 minutes) to boot up. (1 2 gb partition, 2 8 gb partitions) Autochecking NT for this ammount of diskspace only takes about 1-5 minutes..
For those who aren't aware of the power of Gartner:
Garner is one of the 5 largest consultancy organisations around and alot of PHB's are in fact using their advise. Organisations rely on these reports for their IT planning. If Gartner says: "Novell Netware 5 is good" then Microsoft has really something to worry about.
IBM (big blue) felt the power of Gartner. IBM reorganised and drasticly changed their business plans because of a single Gartner report (IBM Mainframes will die was the outcome of that report). IBM was doing well but many jobs were lost.
The only right thing to do is to do nothing about this paper. Don't fight it, don't counter it. Just keep on using Linux and all will be well. Someday Gartner will see it's mistake.
Probably, nothing will happen. Perhaps a exchange of trade secrets (a common practice in the closed software world). Remember, stockholders love patents.
More likely, the smaller shops could be killed off using this patent. Sued to death.. (This also could hurt Linux, but that's a different discussion..)
Yeah, On the PC platform you're right. However, IBM is a much larger shop then most people realise. The IBM-trial was about bundling mainframe (os/390) hardware and software. A large part of the IT-world where MS doesn't even exist. Critical software doesn't run on PC's, it runs on sparcs, mainframes, tandem boxes, and as/400 boxes. IMHO, IBM is absolutly more dangerous then Microsoft. Remember, it's not MS anywhere, its IBM who rules the computing world (Mainframes, AS/400's, AIX..) Wake up!
Yeah, On the PC platform you're right. However, IBM is a much larger shop then most people realise. The IBM-trial was about bundling mainframe hardware and software. A part of the IT-world where MS doesn't even exist.
I guess that you installed SMS on a production-server. That's NOT cool at all..
Then i saw the date...
...OUCH
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Hmm..
When Userfriendly, segfault and Bedope goes down because of a lawsuit, guess who's going be the next one??
Frankly I am quite scared to see those site going down because someone doesn't like them.. Which site is next to be taken down??
There still is something called freedom of speach.. Unfortunaly there also is something called 'sueing till bankrupcy'..
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