All the non-shared Binaries tend to go into that directory, at least ones that are needed to get the system up and running, in case/lib is horked.
Which is a good idea. I'd never really examined it, even though I've been using it for as long as it's been around.
Well, you could certainly say that the average Windows and Linux distributions are painfully bloated as well. I used a stripped OS/2 v3.0 to play games at the time that were -way- out of spec for my 486sx, while running other programs simultaneously.. I remember specifically playing Descent (which was supposed to run on at least a 486DX/33, I had an sx/16.. it hardly ran at ALL in DOS, but ran playably in OS/2, while running Telemate in another DOS window and TAG in another DOS window.:D ) while downloading something in one window, and running my BBS in another.:D
I'm perfectly fine with X being just input and output. Normally, I'm one advocating DECREASING the amount of layers between point A and point B, but in this case, I think there needs to be another layer, and it needs to NOT have 11 different choices for it. There should be -one- layer, and everyone should work together to perfect it.
You know, like the kernel. Like X itself.
It's possible that someone could come up with other things. But things like Drag-n-Drop, and I don't know what else, I'd probably need to look through a listing of all the services that Gnome and KDE and Windows provide, should be universal across all WMs and Desktops.
I think the AT&T lawsuit predates Linux by many years. The original goal of Linux was to make something cool for Comp Sci class. I think the BSD people understand that Unix is entirely too complex for the average joe. BSD devs are, however, often cocks.
NTFS can be mounted similarly to a Unix filesystem.
It would be a lot easier for people who don't have a clue, and don't need one, about file systems and partitions and drives, if all hard drives were simply attached as one volume.. (LVM ? which NTFS also supports, if I'm not mistaken.. I know Linux does, but only because IBM dumped in the OS/2 port of it)
For some reason,/sbin is for binaries that do not use shared libraries (you'd think sbin might be for 'binaries with Shared libraries', but its not) .
I know that, but there's no good reason for anyone else to ever need to know that. It should just farking work.
I'm all for your idea, have even folders have magic numbers that identify them.. that would be really awesome for an improved installer that someone needs to write.
Are you implying that due to the fact that the BSD operating system is licensed with the standard BSD license, that you can only write software that is BSD licensed?
I can't believe that you think that's true, so I can't possibly fathom that you have any point whatsoever in this.
No one built a desktop for BSD before, because BSD already had a desktop. It sucks ass, but it's there. People built a Linux desktop because there wasn't one to begin with.
(and they all suck ass too)
There needs to be an absolute standard interface, such as Windows provides, for doing things like file dragging and dropping, and other things that we can -expect- to be able to do. The API isn't there, and there are two different desktops that provide it, and then there are hundreds of other WMs that provide different things. Since that stuff is not part of X, it needs to be part of something else, and then the functionality needs to be built on top of IT.
GTK doesn't provide it, I don't even know what the hell GTK provides except a really farking awful File dialog box (although I've noticed in the most recent versions if you type into it, it works, instead of having to know the unexplained shortcut to get to it.. but still, that's not at all obvious). The drag/drop/object/etc is provided by GNOME or KDE.. and it sucks.
Considering that I can't get any distribution to boot and start X without mucking with it, on standard Nvidia hardware of recent age (Vanta to 6000 series), I'd say we're in pretty sad shape there.
...on the other hand, I think some aspiring coders out there should build a nice desktop for Windows that isn't as bad as the existing one.
I installed Linux a few days ago, hoping to see some improvement in the general desktop stuff since I last used it about two years ago.. unfortunatly, the whole time I was in X, it felt like I was stuck in 1990, with Gnome. I didn't make it to KDE because Debian pissed me off too much.
Then I went and installed Windows, and was equally pissed off that it's installation process felt like I was stuck in 1991.
They've certainly made no secret about it in the dev blogs, and other places. I think the problem just lies in a minor disconnect between what the people writing the changelogs as being important, and what the slashdot people see as important.
Opera needs better public changelogs, and could use an improved bug tracking system on the public side, but other than that it's a damn fine browser.
Yeah I think it has to do what it does in an obfuscated form as well. I had one bizarre one that I used as a sig for a long time, that was about a 20 line program or so that would print the Twelve Days of Christmas, using ASCII math and loops. Very strange.
I've never had to deal with anything more than a personal/small business database, and therefore am certainly no expert in database queries, but there have been many cases where I've been unable to figure out just what the hell I need to do to get the results i'm looking for straight from MySQL (or Access, which is unfortunatly what the small business database uses, and I am working on converting that sometime soon)... so, I just end up requesting a result set, get that, do some operations on it in PHP, then figure out what I need to request from there to get what I want.
It's a big mess, but there doesn't seem to be a hell of a lot of good tutorials for how to achieve certain things in the various DBs out there. Took me damn forever to figure out how Access syntax differed from mSQL/MySQL, the two i've used before that.
The operating systems running on Spirit and Opportunity are based on a flexible commercial platform initially chosen by JPL engineers for its reliability.
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Either way, not Linux.:D I found two articles that said that they were MIPS R6000, but I'll concede that those may well be wrong.
This appears to be what happens when you take the ASCII-puke aspect of Perl out, and then combine it with a bunch of weird stuff. I understand C, C++, Java, PHP, and I can't follow that at all.
Slashdot Mirror
alright, call me wrong. :P
/lib is horked.
All the non-shared Binaries tend to go into that directory, at least ones that are needed to get the system up and running, in case
Which is a good idea. I'd never really examined it, even though I've been using it for as long as it's been around.
Well, you could certainly say that the average Windows and Linux distributions are painfully bloated as well. I used a stripped OS/2 v3.0 to play games at the time that were -way- out of spec for my 486sx, while running other programs simultaneously .. I remember specifically playing Descent (which was supposed to run on at least a 486DX/33, I had an sx/16 .. it hardly ran at ALL in DOS, but ran playably in OS/2, while running Telemate in another DOS window and TAG in another DOS window. :D ) while downloading something in one window, and running my BBS in another. :D
I'm perfectly fine with X being just input and output. Normally, I'm one advocating DECREASING the amount of layers between point A and point B, but in this case, I think there needs to be another layer, and it needs to NOT have 11 different choices for it. There should be -one- layer, and everyone should work together to perfect it.
You know, like the kernel. Like X itself.
It's possible that someone could come up with other things. But things like Drag-n-Drop, and I don't know what else, I'd probably need to look through a listing of all the services that Gnome and KDE and Windows provide, should be universal across all WMs and Desktops.
I think the AT&T lawsuit predates Linux by many years.
The original goal of Linux was to make something cool for Comp Sci class.
I think the BSD people understand that Unix is entirely too complex for the average joe.
BSD devs are, however, often cocks.
You'd think if a wireless router ran Linux, that it'd support some wireless network adapters. But, you'd probably be wrong. :(
NTFS can be mounted similarly to a Unix filesystem.
.. (LVM ? which NTFS also supports, if I'm not mistaken .. I know Linux does, but only because IBM dumped in the OS/2 port of it)
It would be a lot easier for people who don't have a clue, and don't need one, about file systems and partitions and drives, if all hard drives were simply attached as one volume
What's an "LDAP"? I see people talk about it all the time, but I've never met anyone who's used one.
For some reason, /sbin is for binaries that do not use shared libraries (you'd think sbin might be for 'binaries with Shared libraries', but its not) .
.. that would be really awesome for an improved installer that someone needs to write.
I know that, but there's no good reason for anyone else to ever need to know that. It should just farking work.
I'm all for your idea, have even folders have magic numbers that identify them
Are you implying that due to the fact that the BSD operating system is licensed with the standard BSD license, that you can only write software that is BSD licensed?
I can't believe that you think that's true, so I can't possibly fathom that you have any point whatsoever in this.
No one built a desktop for BSD before, because BSD already had a desktop. It sucks ass, but it's there. People built a Linux desktop because there wasn't one to begin with.
(and they all suck ass too)
Looks like you're still stuck in 1990, along with the Linux desktop :(
There needs to be an absolute standard interface, such as Windows provides, for doing things like file dragging and dropping, and other things that we can -expect- to be able to do. The API isn't there, and there are two different desktops that provide it, and then there are hundreds of other WMs that provide different things. Since that stuff is not part of X, it needs to be part of something else, and then the functionality needs to be built on top of IT.
.. and it sucks.
GTK doesn't provide it, I don't even know what the hell GTK provides except a really farking awful File dialog box (although I've noticed in the most recent versions if you type into it, it works, instead of having to know the unexplained shortcut to get to it.. but still, that's not at all obvious). The drag/drop/object/etc is provided by GNOME or KDE
Imagine a LiveCD distribution campaign that did the same thing, but also helped you convert/migrate?
.. unfortunatly, we didn't have the snappy name thing. Do you think that might've helped?
We tried this in the days of OS/2
AIX was a major pain in the ass, back then. If you didn't have the GNU tools you couldn't compile a -damn- thing on AIX.
.. HP/UX and AIX were way behind in GNU stuff, but it eventually did make it over.
BSD, Sun, and NeXT
Considering that I can't get any distribution to boot and start X without mucking with it, on standard Nvidia hardware of recent age (Vanta to 6000 series), I'd say we're in pretty sad shape there.
...on the other hand, I think some aspiring coders out there should build a nice desktop for Windows that isn't as bad as the existing one.
I installed Linux a few days ago, hoping to see some improvement in the general desktop stuff since I last used it about two years ago.. unfortunatly, the whole time I was in X, it felt like I was stuck in 1990, with Gnome. I didn't make it to KDE because Debian pissed me off too much.
Then I went and installed Windows, and was equally pissed off that it's installation process felt like I was stuck in 1991.
Unbelieveable, as the first post in this thread said. There's no way that INPUT TYPE=IMG doesn't work, it's always worked, and they wouldn't break it.
.. but IE 6 didn't support that properly.
That said, the better way of doing it, however is:
[BUTTON][IMG][/IMG][/BUTTON]
They've certainly made no secret about it in the dev blogs, and other places. I think the problem just lies in a minor disconnect between what the people writing the changelogs as being important, and what the slashdot people see as important.
Opera needs better public changelogs, and could use an improved bug tracking system on the public side, but other than that it's a damn fine browser.
Yeah I think it has to do what it does in an obfuscated form as well. I had one bizarre one that I used as a sig for a long time, that was about a 20 line program or so that would print the Twelve Days of Christmas, using ASCII math and loops. Very strange.
I've never had to deal with anything more than a personal/small business database, and therefore am certainly no expert in database queries, but there have been many cases where I've been unable to figure out just what the hell I need to do to get the results i'm looking for straight from MySQL (or Access, which is unfortunatly what the small business database uses, and I am working on converting that sometime soon) ...
so, I just end up requesting a result set, get that, do some operations on it in PHP, then figure out what I need to request from there to get what I want.
It's a big mess, but there doesn't seem to be a hell of a lot of good tutorials for how to achieve certain things in the various DBs out there. Took me damn forever to figure out how Access syntax differed from mSQL/MySQL, the two i've used before that.
Either way, not Linux.
This appears to be what happens when you take the ASCII-puke aspect of Perl out, and then combine it with a bunch of weird stuff. I understand C, C++, Java, PHP, and I can't follow that at all.
http://linux-mips.planetmirror.com/cpus.html
The rovers run on R6000s, which are not supported.
My brother had several graph paper books full of maps for Telengard.
I think the DOS versions of the Apshai games are playable on Gametap.
SCO has certainly treated IBM like they -want- to be raped after dead.