Damn there billy goes again securing everything under the sun in his world domination plans.. heh, aparently he does use the strategy that he suggested to apple. read Apple the inside story if you dont know what i mean.
so i suppose mandrake just sells a free cd with a 29 dollar manual and a ten dollar card board box..
if they really wanted it to get out they would do like many other sites and sent it out with a small fee plus thier cost, theres a big difference between 39$ and 5-10$ especially to poor ass geeks. i know. So as far as iam concerned companies built around linux are doomed to fail because linux isnt a marketable product its too wide of a area already. they would have to start including 20+ cds just to get all the software being made out there. and belive me when i say that linux had plenty of coders long before mandrake came around, same with redhat. A team of 10 employed programmers added onto thousands of indepentant ones isnt some salvation, its just adding a bit more to the big story. Iam not saying dont support linux iam just saying support it for the right reasons.
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it has to do with the irony of hipocracy. that windows kiddies go around cutting people down about using windows and lieing saying they use windows. an operating system is an operating system. It doesnt make who you are and thats the damn point. there are enough things to divide slashdot as a community does operating system need to be another one?
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thats true alot of government kickbacks come from big business, including microsoft.. (wonder whats running on most of the governments workstations) eh the law is so twisted now adays its hard to belive it ever once protected the underdog, shit and to think it was founded by free thinkers. that certainly isnt the case anymore and free thinking might as well be illegal if you do anything more than think.
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lol before y2k they did = ) heh fortran and cobol were all the rage in 1998 HEH, "i found another damn y2k bug in the server, thats the 3rd this week, better put some fogger in there"
VAX
your model is fine untill you apply it to the real world. first of all those kids who cant afford the software are not going to by it eaither way. now they can 1. download it online or 2. steal it from a store or someone else. What would you rather have them do? theoretically they wont buy it because theoretically they are broke so lets look at this realistically. they arnt hurting anyone, they arnt making money off of it, and they arnt distrubuting it(and if they are then bust them) make sense?
oh yea and btw.. my hardware would work because i run freebsd. so eh shutup. thanks. no one needs to hear your self rightgeous bullshit about your self proclaimed linux evangelism. And another thing kid, I have contributed code so shut the hell up, what have you contributed? huh? KDE THEMES? congratz u fucking lations, when my hardware didnt work i helped make the drivers so shut up and stop sereotyping me as an idiot like yourself. so i dont spend all my time preening over my slashdot posts like they are fine writing, so sue me i have my freedoms and one is to not take bullshit from idiots.
good day
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Did you know *gasp* that all those things are helping those companies try and save thier ass? all your doing is showing how nieve you are man. Linus was THE kernel programmer but you dont see him flaunting it around like hes saving the world for free. As for mandrake and redhats "code" yea i respect it a whole hell of alot, it must be hard making generalized GUI config programs to run on top of linux so any moron without a brain can install it. And another thing, you Assume i cant do just fine in console, well i can so i dont need your wonderful KDE interface to use linux. You sound like a kid who bought it at walmart and now is trying to become the biggest mandrake ass kisser on the planet. Iam not saying mandrake hasnt done anything good, but like all business they have money as the number one objective, The linux community doesnt work like that. period.
hmm.. and i suppose 100 billion is barely enough for him to scrape by.. also i dont know about anyone else but i could care less what "projects" microsoft is pouring money into. Last time i looked it was snatching up satelites and stealing other peoples ideas, oh and one more thing, the microsoft product of the future? MS-DOS (Microsoft System-Dominating Operation Satelite)
lol.
VAX
hmm and i suppose gates cant afford to pay his programmers because of all that money he loses in piracy,,, yea ok i buy that.. (thats why i goto any credible news source to see his billions getting bigger) gates gets no sympathy from me and if his programmers dont make enough thats not the worlds problems its gates problem if he wants to be a flippin asshole then let him but i cant feel sorry for his poor programmers if they openly promote his bullshit. If they want to get paid microsoft only cares about thier billions the top of the ladder just gets richer the grunt labor doesnt get shit. All the government is doing is helping gates. is this about programmers getting paid or microsoft? iam having trouble telling. well i agree programmers deserve payment but Gates is no programmer hes a glutton so i certainly wouldnt be caught defending him.
i cant help but notice how blind you are sir, first of all your talking about all this contributing to the community and your contributing to mandrake, mandrake isnt the linux community, mandrake is just another redhat, trying to make money off free software. you are contributing to them? and what do you get in return? the joy of paying 39.95 for the latest copy at walmart? hmm that might work for you but when i want good software i dont need redhat or mandrake to sell it to me, i think i would rather get it free like it should be. selling free software will never make money because of the obvious, people dont pay for things that are free.
ironic sig though, supporting mandrake, a company who makes money off free software. I will admit it makes it easier for morons to install linux or for those who dont read up on things first to install it and get it working but turning it into a product like that of windows, might as well make it made by microsoft. linux isnt software its a way off life heh, and selling it wont ever work because it was build from the ground up as no nag no strings just free for those who want it.
and thats the way it should be. want to support someone? support the www.linux.com community fuck mandrake.
I knew the 4th amedment getting removed would effect you all later.. myself as well.. this once again proves a few things. They dont need anything more than an impulse to raid our houses, steal our computers, anything of value. We now not only have a problem on our hands but look lookie we dont have a law to protect us eather. welcome to the 22nd century boys, looks like the great si-fi writers werent too far off.. now thats foresight
VAX
iam glad i used linux, and pay for my software for that matter.. raids raids raids.. i agree though hard working programmers deserve money for thier work, i suppose in my opinion it would be nice to not see the feds raiding everyone. eh i do have a 2000k box but its legit and i only write code for my nix box. eh well i just hope that the feds have better things to do than raid a bunch of kids (for gods sake theres plenty of more harmful crime occuring without hinderance.)
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that was my point, 300-400 million dollars doesnt hurt microsoft worth crap. 10 billions in fines wouldnt hurt them enough to do good. they are a powerful beast looming on invincibility, microsofts only weakness is its ran by humans, and humans slip eventually. Someday microsoft will be stopped, but that doesnt help much of anyone except the companies whom microsoft screwed over. The government is still plenty courrupt and someday will probly be on slashdot just as much as microsoft, that is assuming we have the right to read left. Did anyone besides me hear about the 4th ammendment getting fried? yes thats right the police no longer need warrants. sounds like the very things that founded this country are being slowly taken from its people. Time for reform? eh no opinion here. just a person who long ago gave up hope on his government.
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hmm to directly reply to your attacks. First I use Litestep for one reason and that is i dont like looking at windows uglyness, I dont say its an excuse its just my preference, I dont like microsoft, that doesnt mean that i have to hate windows, If linux was backwards compatible with win32 apps i wouldnt have a need for this windows box sitting next to me now would I? Linux isnt everything to everyone, its a tool, I use it for my own uses, one of them is not to brag just because i have a [vax@thevax.net/] prompt. If i wanted to be a complete fake, then i wouldnt use it at all now would i? besides who are you attacking here? the only people i dispise more than the nitpicking majority are those who are on high horses flaunting linux like a weapon. Its a tool for the masses, A great thing and an even better operating system, I dont know about you but iam going to do something for that community rather than waste all my time ranting about microsoft. Adios
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lol the real "funny" thing would be if the flamer who replyed to my first post was on a "31337ified" windows 98 box using IE to send his wonderfull opinion.. lol Linux shouldnt be used to sort people, we use it because it clicks for us, real linux users dont go around bragging about it like its some "elite" group, linux has so many users that the only people left to bitch about the non users are the microsoft windows kids themselfs.
perhaps i need to add a large JOKING tag to my posts so that those of us who lack humor wont feel offended. Forgive my nieve nature but are you by chance a high preist of this "religion" haha get a grip man it was a ja ja joke
"life is hard and so am i,
better give me something so i dont die,
novacain for the soul,
before i sputter out"
VAX
"life is white and iam black,
jesus and his lawyer are comin back" the eels
leave it to the Anonymous Cowards to mock significant acheivements, all i have to say to you is your name suits you well. perhaps when you grow up you will learn to take your critizims by a real name.
VAX
it seems only fair, after all the not so glam pioneers of computers still need to be remembered, and in my opinion more so that thier galm counter parts. Iam glad slashdot posted this its good to know they intresting things that are not microsoft related (at all) are still being posted. It occured to me that inadvertaintly slashdot is giving microsoft free advertising by putting them up on a (what seems like) weekly baisis, i dont know about the rest of you but iam a bit tired of hearing microsoft does this and microsoft is doing that in court (doesn anyone care anymore? i dont) heh well keep up the good articles guys
peace love and free thinking
VAX
Slashdot Mirror
Damn there billy goes again securing everything under the sun in his world domination plans.. heh, aparently he does use the strategy that he suggested to apple. read Apple the inside story if you dont know what i mean.
i would check Ebay, ive seen them on there for around 15 or less with a serial interface (com i belive)
sorry i couldnt be more helpful
VAX
so i suppose mandrake just sells a free cd with a 29 dollar manual and a ten dollar card board box..
if they really wanted it to get out they would do like many other sites and sent it out with a small fee plus thier cost, theres a big difference between 39$ and 5-10$ especially to poor ass geeks. i know. So as far as iam concerned companies built around linux are doomed to fail because linux isnt a marketable product its too wide of a area already. they would have to start including 20+ cds just to get all the software being made out there. and belive me when i say that linux had plenty of coders long before mandrake came around, same with redhat. A team of 10 employed programmers added onto thousands of indepentant ones isnt some salvation, its just adding a bit more to the big story. Iam not saying dont support linux iam just saying support it for the right reasons.
VAX
it has to do with the irony of hipocracy. that windows kiddies go around cutting people down about using windows and lieing saying they use windows. an operating system is an operating system. It doesnt make who you are and thats the damn point. there are enough things to divide slashdot as a community does operating system need to be another one?
VAX
thats true alot of government kickbacks come from big business, including microsoft.. (wonder whats running on most of the governments workstations) eh the law is so twisted now adays its hard to belive it ever once protected the underdog, shit and to think it was founded by free thinkers. that certainly isnt the case anymore and free thinking might as well be illegal if you do anything more than think.
VAX
lol before y2k they did = ) heh fortran and cobol were all the rage in 1998 HEH, "i found another damn y2k bug in the server, thats the 3rd this week, better put some fogger in there"
VAX
your model is fine untill you apply it to the real world. first of all those kids who cant afford the software are not going to by it eaither way. now they can 1. download it online or 2. steal it from a store or someone else. What would you rather have them do? theoretically they wont buy it because theoretically they are broke so lets look at this realistically. they arnt hurting anyone, they arnt making money off of it, and they arnt distrubuting it(and if they are then bust them) make sense?
oh yea and btw.. my hardware would work because i run freebsd. so eh shutup. thanks. no one needs to hear your self rightgeous bullshit about your self proclaimed linux evangelism. And another thing kid, I have contributed code so shut the hell up, what have you contributed? huh? KDE THEMES? congratz u fucking lations, when my hardware didnt work i helped make the drivers so shut up and stop sereotyping me as an idiot like yourself. so i dont spend all my time preening over my slashdot posts like they are fine writing, so sue me i have my freedoms and one is to not take bullshit from idiots.
good day
VAX
Did you know *gasp* that all those things are helping those companies try and save thier ass? all your doing is showing how nieve you are man. Linus was THE kernel programmer but you dont see him flaunting it around like hes saving the world for free. As for mandrake and redhats "code" yea i respect it a whole hell of alot, it must be hard making generalized GUI config programs to run on top of linux so any moron without a brain can install it. And another thing, you Assume i cant do just fine in console, well i can so i dont need your wonderful KDE interface to use linux. You sound like a kid who bought it at walmart and now is trying to become the biggest mandrake ass kisser on the planet. Iam not saying mandrake hasnt done anything good, but like all business they have money as the number one objective, The linux community doesnt work like that. period.
hmm.. and i suppose 100 billion is barely enough for him to scrape by.. also i dont know about anyone else but i could care less what "projects" microsoft is pouring money into. Last time i looked it was snatching up satelites and stealing other peoples ideas, oh and one more thing, the microsoft product of the future? MS-DOS (Microsoft System-Dominating Operation Satelite)
lol.
VAX
Yea I hear thier investigative department is underfunded maybe thats why all those gay scout leaders just recently got busted..
glad i quit the BSA or id be SOL
contratz for running in the special olympics we always need retards running for us(TM).
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hmm and i suppose gates cant afford to pay his programmers because of all that money he loses in piracy,,, yea ok i buy that.. (thats why i goto any credible news source to see his billions getting bigger) gates gets no sympathy from me and if his programmers dont make enough thats not the worlds problems its gates problem if he wants to be a flippin asshole then let him but i cant feel sorry for his poor programmers if they openly promote his bullshit. If they want to get paid microsoft only cares about thier billions the top of the ladder just gets richer the grunt labor doesnt get shit. All the government is doing is helping gates. is this about programmers getting paid or microsoft? iam having trouble telling. well i agree programmers deserve payment but Gates is no programmer hes a glutton so i certainly wouldnt be caught defending him.
i cant help but notice how blind you are sir, first of all your talking about all this contributing to the community and your contributing to mandrake, mandrake isnt the linux community, mandrake is just another redhat, trying to make money off free software. you are contributing to them? and what do you get in return? the joy of paying 39.95 for the latest copy at walmart? hmm that might work for you but when i want good software i dont need redhat or mandrake to sell it to me, i think i would rather get it free like it should be. selling free software will never make money because of the obvious, people dont pay for things that are free.
ironic sig though, supporting mandrake, a company who makes money off free software. I will admit it makes it easier for morons to install linux or for those who dont read up on things first to install it and get it working but turning it into a product like that of windows, might as well make it made by microsoft. linux isnt software its a way off life heh, and selling it wont ever work because it was build from the ground up as no nag no strings just free for those who want it.
and thats the way it should be. want to support someone? support the www.linux.com community fuck mandrake.
I knew the 4th amedment getting removed would effect you all later.. myself as well.. this once again proves a few things. They dont need anything more than an impulse to raid our houses, steal our computers, anything of value. We now not only have a problem on our hands but look lookie we dont have a law to protect us eather. welcome to the 22nd century boys, looks like the great si-fi writers werent too far off.. now thats foresight
VAX
iam glad i used linux, and pay for my software for that matter.. raids raids raids.. i agree though hard working programmers deserve money for thier work, i suppose in my opinion it would be nice to not see the feds raiding everyone. eh i do have a 2000k box but its legit and i only write code for my nix box. eh well i just hope that the feds have better things to do than raid a bunch of kids (for gods sake theres plenty of more harmful crime occuring without hinderance.)
VAX
that was my point, 300-400 million dollars doesnt hurt microsoft worth crap. 10 billions in fines wouldnt hurt them enough to do good. they are a powerful beast looming on invincibility, microsofts only weakness is its ran by humans, and humans slip eventually. Someday microsoft will be stopped, but that doesnt help much of anyone except the companies whom microsoft screwed over. The government is still plenty courrupt and someday will probly be on slashdot just as much as microsoft, that is assuming we have the right to read left. Did anyone besides me hear about the 4th ammendment getting fried? yes thats right the police no longer need warrants. sounds like the very things that founded this country are being slowly taken from its people. Time for reform? eh no opinion here. just a person who long ago gave up hope on his government.
VAX
hmm to directly reply to your attacks. First I use Litestep for one reason and that is i dont like looking at windows uglyness, I dont say its an excuse its just my preference, I dont like microsoft, that doesnt mean that i have to hate windows, If linux was backwards compatible with win32 apps i wouldnt have a need for this windows box sitting next to me now would I? Linux isnt everything to everyone, its a tool, I use it for my own uses, one of them is not to brag just because i have a [vax@thevax.net /] prompt. If i wanted to be a complete fake, then i wouldnt use it at all now would i? besides who are you attacking here? the only people i dispise more than the nitpicking majority are those who are on high horses flaunting linux like a weapon. Its a tool for the masses, A great thing and an even better operating system, I dont know about you but iam going to do something for that community rather than waste all my time ranting about microsoft. Adios
VAX
lol the real "funny" thing would be if the flamer who replyed to my first post was on a "31337ified" windows 98 box using IE to send his wonderfull opinion.. lol Linux shouldnt be used to sort people, we use it because it clicks for us, real linux users dont go around bragging about it like its some "elite" group, linux has so many users that the only people left to bitch about the non users are the microsoft windows kids themselfs.
well i cant just spell correctly that wouldnt be any fun, come on then what would up tight jerks like you guys have to bitch about?
----VAX
perhaps i need to add a large JOKING tag to my posts so that those of us who lack humor wont feel offended. Forgive my nieve nature but are you by chance a high preist of this "religion" haha get a grip man it was a ja ja joke
"life is hard and so am i,
better give me something so i dont die,
novacain for the soul,
before i sputter out"
VAX
"life is white and iam black,
jesus and his lawyer are comin back" the eels
does this mean we can go and find more bacteria to infect us? heh.. YEY more bacterial infections.
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leave it to the Anonymous Cowards to mock significant acheivements, all i have to say to you is your name suits you well. perhaps when you grow up you will learn to take your critizims by a real name.
VAX
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it seems only fair, after all the not so glam pioneers of computers still need to be remembered, and in my opinion more so that thier galm counter parts. Iam glad slashdot posted this its good to know they intresting things that are not microsoft related (at all) are still being posted. It occured to me that inadvertaintly slashdot is giving microsoft free advertising by putting them up on a (what seems like) weekly baisis, i dont know about the rest of you but iam a bit tired of hearing microsoft does this and microsoft is doing that in court (doesn anyone care anymore? i dont) heh well keep up the good articles guys
peace love and free thinking
VAX
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